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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
May 14 2012 09:49 GMT
#2041
@Carolus:

Can you please elaborate on why you thought QS7 was town so early in the game:
On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it


I thought it was because you married him and had some secret PM talks, but that theory just got blown up (by him proposing to Mattchew). That makes me wonder how you got QS7 as town that early in the game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
May 14 2012 09:52 GMT
#2042
On May 14 2012 18:49 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
If someone is hit and medic'd/protected will the person in question and the medic/protector be notified?

The medic/protector will be notified.

Okay. Any knight (or other protector-like type) get hit last night? Without a mafia KP getting blocked, the night kills seem strange.
Quatol
Profile Joined April 2012
Burkina Faso57 Posts
May 14 2012 10:08 GMT
#2043
can anyone marry me?
The one and only
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2012 10:10 GMT
#2044
Your actually playing this game?
unless your scum If we lose you are to blame

Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 14 2012 10:12 GMT
#2045
On May 14 2012 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
@Carolus:

Can you please elaborate on why you thought QS7 was town so early in the game:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it


I thought it was because you married him and had some secret PM talks, but that theory just got blown up (by him proposing to Mattchew). That makes me wonder how you got QS7 as town that early in the game.

I will not elaborate since I don't have to, but suffice to say that mafia are much less likely than townies to offer to mason us. He also helped us push the maju case so you don't really have a reason to doubt him at this stage.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 14 2012 10:20 GMT
#2046
Acrofales why do you want to lynch Errandor out of all the lurkers?

And I agree the night hits look really wierd.

Hey CC so where are you? Why are you still missing? Can we expect your activity to step up now that you are dead in Liar Game? Who do you want to lynch today?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 14 2012 10:23 GMT
#2047
On May 14 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:49 blubbdavid wrote:
On May 14 2012 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
If someone is hit and medic'd/protected will the person in question and the medic/protector be notified?

The medic/protector will be notified.

Okay. Any knight (or other protector-like type) get hit last night? Without a mafia KP getting blocked, the night kills seem strange.

why do they seem strange? and there were 4 kills, what do you make of that?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 14 2012 10:24 GMT
#2048
On May 14 2012 19:12 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
@Carolus:

Can you please elaborate on why you thought QS7 was town so early in the game:
On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it


I thought it was because you married him and had some secret PM talks, but that theory just got blown up (by him proposing to Mattchew). That makes me wonder how you got QS7 as town that early in the game.

I will not elaborate since I don't have to, but suffice to say that mafia are much less likely than townies to offer to mason us. He also helped us push the maju case so you don't really have a reason to doubt him at this stage.

I think his suspicions rest more on you knowing he was town so soon and less on the alignment of QS7

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 14 2012 10:27 GMT
#2049
Speaking of, QS7 I have a question for you

How many pies can you have your fingers in?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 14 2012 10:35 GMT
#2050
On May 14 2012 16:50 Acrofales wrote:
Mattchew. Your suspicions are outdated. Mind updating your cases on bluelightz and Jitsu? The only thing you have said about Jitsu is that he was "not trolling or trying, just blending" about 3 hours into the game. It has not been updated since. Mind actually saying why 91 hours later you still think he's scum?

As for bluelightz, your case was made about 20 hours into the game. Also not exactly up to date. BM and MrPotatohead added nonsensical stuff onto that in a piecemeal manner, but I am completely unconvinced. Also, to help you see the light:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 23:13 sinani206 wrote:
that maju wagon is way too suspicious. ##Vote: Bluelightz

Pick the one name in this post that looks like he might be an innocent dupe for mafia to throw votes on. I made it easy by colouring the dead scum for you.

In fact, I would go so far as to say your dogged suspicion of bluelightz regardless of what has happened in the thread is making you look suspicious. I would much prefer you marrying QS7 rather than MrPotatohead, because I have quite a lot more faith in the former's ability to flush out scum in private chat, than in the latter's.

I have three roles to redistribute today. Anarchist was apparently not an inheritable role. However, Sinani never married (does that sound as dumb to you as it does to me: scum not secretly marrying their scumbuddies?), so I have:
Assassin
Spymaster
Viscount von Detta

I have a pretty good idea on what to do with them, but am waiting for my darling empress to wake up and chat to me on skype.

Finally, I am perfectly happy to use my royal lynch on Erandorr, the scummiest of all the lurkers. He's actually active enough to jump in just before the deadline and buss his scumbuddy when there was no way of preventing the lynch anyway.

Adam12345 needs to give us more content. Voting with the two confirmed scum this game does not look good. He currently looks like a decent lynch target for town. Prplhz needs to address the case against him. Although voting Sinani makes him look a bit better.

Remember that time scum weren't able to talk to each other and the other time when scum weren't able to set up fake relationships for people to incorrect connect/disconnect alignments from?????

Yeah neither do I.

Bluelightz wants me to respond to his case, I wont, but he is more than happy to continually point that out as a scum tell but yet begs me to defend myself. I don't have to defend myself as town, especially when im not at risk of being lynched. I have more important things to do, like get bluelightz lynched.

He also has been throwing around the word WIFOM way too much and it is barely ever in correct context or use. He's still trying to blend in.

jitsu is weird to me. He somehow thinks that the length of a case matters in its validity, yet he says he's ignoring you (acro) which I like.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 14 2012 10:37 GMT
#2051
Could I get Kurumi's role PM as I inherit his role?



Suspicions and opinions:

Adam4167: He is town, he's uber trolling this game, let him do his shit, ignore all of his posts.

Mattchew: Still suspicious, He keeps on persisting on never responding to my case, not trying to bring up new stuff to discussion and when pressed insists if we put together his posts on a certain person we can conclude it into a case, but actually for example on Jitsu he only has two post's about it(thanks acro).

Anymore opinions/suspicions just ask.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
May 14 2012 10:42 GMT
#2052
Hrmm, going over the early posts. Bard, are you claiming scum here?
On May 10 2012 10:45 The_Bard wrote:
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 14 2012 10:42 GMT
#2053
Matt: Consider this: If I am a fucking vig and I will destroy you in the night if you dont respond because your posts dont convince me that your town, would you fucking defend?

Right now your as usual saying: "omg Bluelightz has to be lynched, Jitsu too!" "lol just take my posts on Jitsu and you'll find a case rait?"

You never try to convince others that your town, convince Acrofales? nevar for you!, this seems scummy to me and I hope others can see why.

Not related to the game but:
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone wanna play Portal 2 with meh on steam? add Bluelightz The Blue On steam :3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2012 10:43 GMT
#2054
Pretty sure that is a foolishness claim
over all the bard is pretty lame
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#2055
btw: Is Drazerk third party? The color in the day post doesnt seem town.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 14 2012 10:46 GMT
#2056
Aaaaaaaaaaand I forgot: I AM FREE 4 MARRIAGE! :3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2012 10:46 GMT
#2057
On May 14 2012 19:45 Bluelightz wrote:
btw: Is Drazerk third party? The color in the day post doesnt seem town.


Read the thread you idiot
You just proved you don't care about the game with that post from your chariot
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
May 14 2012 10:49 GMT
#2058
On May 14 2012 19:37 Bluelightz wrote:
Adam4167: He is town, he's uber trolling this game, let him do his shit, ignore all of his posts.


ZOMG dont call me town, the scum might shoot me~!

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
May 14 2012 10:49 GMT
#2059
On May 14 2012 19:20 zelblade wrote:
Acrofales why do you want to lynch Errandor out of all the lurkers?

And I agree the night hits look really wierd.

Hey CC so where are you? Why are you still missing? Can we expect your activity to step up now that you are dead in Liar Game? Who do you want to lynch today?

He threw away his emperor votes (or at least claimed to have thrown them away. There's something funky going on with the emperor votes and it's entirely possible he's just lying about throwing away his votes to look like a noob town... Sandro fell for it at least).

He did nothing, then came in at the very last second and voted. Both him and Bard look extra suspicious for their vote timing.

The other lurkers fall into one of two groups:

1. either didn't vote (Laika, CC, Itouchyou, V7, Quatol, Bagmanager), meaning they really don't give a shit about the game and can't be arsed to vote. I am gambling on them getting modkilled today, so wasting a lynch on them is pointless.

2. or they're Adam (or dead like Kurumi and Sinani). I am not opposed to an Adam lynch either!
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 14 2012 10:50 GMT
#2060
On May 14 2012 19:42 Bluelightz wrote:
Matt: Consider this: If I am a fucking vig and I will destroy you in the night if you dont respond because your posts dont convince me that your town, would you fucking defend?

Right now your as usual saying: "omg Bluelightz has to be lynched, Jitsu too!" "lol just take my posts on Jitsu and you'll find a case rait?"

You never try to convince others that your town, convince Acrofales? nevar for you!, this seems scummy to me and I hope others can see why.

You know you could not get me lynched (cause most people are smart enough to realize im town) so you have to go to blue powers (vig claim) and pandering to our emperor?

You woulda shot me last night if you were a vig, otherwise you would just be claiming scum to the thread if you are saying you didn't
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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