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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 04 2012 16:47 GMT
#421
On May 05 2012 01:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 00:20 froggynoddy wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:

Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be.



why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute.

I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have.


He havent posted yet. He isn't lurking he is just not here. If he pops up I'll bring my entire wrath down on him but until he does he is a modkill to me so I see no reason to waste time arguing over him.

So you think we should kill Grush because its the only case? You don't really care who we lynch?


Who would you favour lynching at the moment, sir?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#422
On May 05 2012 00:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
2. Just wrong, I can have scumreads that i do not feel should be posted until i can get more infos to back them up. as i do.


Post them then, wtf are you waiting for... Day is coming to a close, and we barely have any candidates to lynch. Even if they are bad cases, at least it will generate discussion around the said players.

On May 05 2012 00:21 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 22:58 Mementoss wrote:
BH, I agree with most of your points on Nova Terra I actually had the same notes as you did. His response today was also lackluster. In the games I played/observed with when he was vanilla town he was all over the place trying to push discussion. I think his "im intimidated by vets" is just an excuse for him to lurk and post when it feels convenient. Not committed to saying anything solid, stuff like I don't think hes scum for sure, and I'll keep him in the back of my mind. It could be a situation where Nova rolled scum.


Post a solid statement, not pretty much agree with someone and rephrase their stuff. Also i find this funny
Show nested quote +
Not committed to saying anything solid, stuff like I don't think hes scum for sure

Show nested quote +
It could be a situation where Nova rolled scum.

Just lol



I am posting a solid statement, a solid statement on me thinking you are scum, and why I agree with BH. Am I not allowed to agree with a player? How are we supposed to consolidate votes, and generate discussion if people don't talk about said cases, the more people that see you as scummy, the more pressure on you to post, and either make more mistakes as scum, or man up and make cases as town, both which help create discussion.

Also not only your shady play in this game, unwilling to create a pro town environment has painted you scum, but the fact your meta also looks like your scum meta, town nova isn't afraid to post his reads, terrible or not. Also the tone of this post just screams cockiness, which is something you possess more when you play scum.

So Nova, lets hear your reads birthday boy, or are you waiting till the night cycle -_-.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 16:56 GMT
#423
Oh shit, if im correct, day ends in about 5 hours. In that case,

##Vote: Nova_Terra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 17:02 GMT
#424
On May 05 2012 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 01:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 05 2012 00:20 froggynoddy wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:

Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be.



why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute.

I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have.


He havent posted yet. He isn't lurking he is just not here. If he pops up I'll bring my entire wrath down on him but until he does he is a modkill to me so I see no reason to waste time arguing over him.

So you think we should kill Grush because its the only case? You don't really care who we lynch?


Who would you favour lynching at the moment, sir?


I would like to hear the same from you actually Marveoulosity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 17:18 GMT
#425
@ SomethingAwesome i feel like killing you because you were posting stuff like this and this.

You first post is totally unsubstantiated.

You were asked by multiple player to explain you second post but your explanation is very weak
Answering for others IMO is super scummy because it means you know what they are thinking and what their motivations are, aka what alignment they are.

Even though townies answer questions addressed to others all of the time.


Show nested quote +
Me is hardcore BLU!

Making sure to blend in!

Why would you try to analyse the contents of that quote?
How on earth could saying "Me is hardcore BLU" have any relation to that players alignment?

@ Mementoss i am listening to a song called "no brains"

since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive

This is a policy lynch.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 04 2012 17:19 GMT
#426
On May 04 2012 19:31 blubbdavid wrote:
I have no read on Nova, he is pretty neutral atm.
And I will stop tunneling grush for the time being, maybe he will come up with something useful.
Still, I would be interested in papapanda's opinion.
And katina, do some scumhunting. What is your opinion on grush?

For Blazinghand, I think that he is townie, he's pretty active and is even making sense somehow.

BM is still lurking scum imo.



Sorry, had a busy night.

My opinion on Grush is that I think he is suspicious for voting me with no reason then making a silly excuse for it (Which I talked about in one of my other posts) I'm still waiting for him to come and post something that will help me make up my mind on him as for now though he is a good lynch candidate.

BM still hasn't graced us with his presence and that is troubling. I would be okay with his lynch too.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 04 2012 17:38 GMT
#427
There's not really much of a point to voting for BM if he's going to be modkilled, which is looking pretty likely at this point. I've never played with him myself, so it'll take some convincing before I'm willing to lynch him based on the force of his personality alone.

On May 04 2012 21:59 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 17:11 Eiii wrote:
Day 1 absentee checking in! I feel bad about only getting one post in in the first ~36 hours and I'm gonna make an effort to contribute more this game so have a chunk of text:

I'm not going to be voting for grush today unless something crazy happens before the deadline. Tossing aside his random bandwagon vote I don't think he responded to the pressure unreasonably. I mean, I'd be pretty upset as well if I was being pressured to put out analysis posts when the rest of town's strategy was jump-down-people's-throats-at-the-drop-of-a-hat-and-see-what-sticks. Either way, he's said some things and eyes will be on him now in the future. If he disappears or slips up, we'll notice.

I'm going to spoiler this next bit because I managed to start writing it and then realized I was probably wrong about halfway through and my position changed from 'this guy's scum' to 'eh'.

+ Show Spoiler +

Between this:

On May 03 2012 10:15 papapanda wrote:
It is reasonable to vote for blubb if no one else comes out with major slip-ups, and the town has to lynch someone.
Otherwise I would sit back and wait for N1 or D2 when more information might be available.


Which people have already called him out on, and this:

On May 03 2012 22:31 papapanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:11 blubbdavid wrote:
The confusing thing is that in a sense vanilla townies are also blue roles, just without power. I wanted to ask Ken whether he had a powerrole or not.


A 1.2 line defense? Only a little better than grush.

Some of us are obviously more seasoned than others. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I play with you before in my first game?
The way I see it is when we have two suspicious guys, I would lynch the more experienced person because there is less possibility that his mistakes are due to the fact that he was careless or ignorant.


In which he brushes off david's requested explanation for his actions (because apparently length is everything). But then I went back and looked at the context again and realized that he was just putting more pressure on because david was crazy-overreacting to being called out for the minor blue-hunting he was doing right off the bat, which is pretty reasonable. So, nevermind. Panda seems pretty cool.


I'll have to vote tomorrow-- I've got an hour I can use to find someone.

So what opinion do you actually have. You got any scumreads?
That is my opinion! Panda doesn't seem scummy to me. I used to have a scumread, and then I looked into it and changed my mind!

On May 04 2012 23:40 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 15:00 sinani206 wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.

Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206


Nice two posts about me. Got anything on anyone else?

Also, to confirm, day ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), right?

Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions?
I believe sinani did this in one of the games I've played with him, though I might be confusing 201 with 206. Either way, please post useful things 206. You've been known to not do so in the past, and now's the perfect time to turn that around!


Anyway, I'm going to be voting for mentos. He's already been called out on a few of his posts, but this really caught my eye:
On May 04 2012 22:58 Mementoss wrote:
Grushes case is a strange one for sure. It's one of the only cases made in this game so far, and he just crumbled and gave in and played the pity me card. This could be a town or mafia trait, the only interesting thing to me is how hard it has been to get votes onto him, 4 in about a day, and the fact that a lot of people are just dropping one liners defending him without proper reason and jumping onto the next person. Still think there is a good chance he could be scum.
Of course it was hard to get votes onto him, it was practically day one hour one and there was hardly even a case against him. Combine that questionable interpretation of events with a non-committal push that he's scum because people are defending him in a non-committal way without providing any evidence that that's even the case, and then wrapping it up by concluding there's a 'good chance' he's scum? I really, really don't like what this post is trying to do.
:3
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 17:41 GMT
#428
On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:

@ Mementoss i am listening to a song called "no brains"

Shit I thought might get you to claim scum

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 23:22 layabout wrote:
With any luck i will roll pyro and then play this song on a loop every time and all of the time that i am in the thread
+ Show Spoiler +

just like i do in team fortress.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 17:42 GMT
#429
EBWOP: Ignore above.

On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:

@ Mementoss i am listening to a song called "no brains"


Shit I thought I might get you to claim scum

On April 27 2012 23:22 layabout wrote:
With any luck i will roll pyro and then play this song on a loop every time and all of the time that i am in the thread
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5t84f31ok

just like i do in team fortress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 04 2012 17:43 GMT
#430
On May 05 2012 02:02 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 05 2012 00:20 froggynoddy wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:

Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be.



why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute.

I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have.


He havent posted yet. He isn't lurking he is just not here. If he pops up I'll bring my entire wrath down on him but until he does he is a modkill to me so I see no reason to waste time arguing over him.

So you think we should kill Grush because its the only case? You don't really care who we lynch?


Who would you favour lynching at the moment, sir?


I would like to hear the same from you actually Marveoulosity


I'm not sure you deserve an answer if you're not going to spell my name right.

At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 17:44 GMT
#431
Eiii when you say "BM is gonna be modkilled dont worry about him" is that because he is one of the 13-ish player yet to vote?

That is not a valid defence and there is no reason to make it.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 17:49 GMT
#432
News just in!

Mementoss either did not read the OP or was rolefishing like a buffoon.
He is town and should not be up for lynch ever!
Good job guys!

On May 05 2012 02:41 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:

@ Mementoss i am listening to a song called "no brains"

Shit I thought might get you to claim scum

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 23:22 layabout wrote:
With any luck i will roll pyro and then play this song on a loop every time and all of the time that i am in the thread
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5t84f31ok

just like i do in team fortress.





BLU Pyro
Tracker
-BLU Pyro nowadays was hiding from people, but that's because he was learning the art of tracking. After his hard training he's confident in his abilities.-
Can check who player visits every night.

RED Pyro
0.5KP Vigilante
-The Engineer still doesn't know how to translate what Pyro's saying, besides "SPY!", so You know... Can't quote anything good.-
Might deal 0.5KP damage to player of choice. One owns the KP, not the entire team.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 04 2012 17:54 GMT
#433
I am also willing to lynch BM if there's no majority on grush.
But: What even more important is than lynching scum D1is obtaining information. A BM lynch wouldn't us give much info, assuming he is scum.
I still want to see panda's take on grush before I set my vote in stone.

And lol, there's no way BM is going to be modkilled.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 04 2012 17:59 GMT
#434
I guess I need reading classes >_> I actually did go back and look through the roles for a blue pyro and didn't see it.

Oh turns out all the roles have same names on both teams but different abilities. Lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 18:06 GMT
#435
Day1:
killing a player that will be a detriment to town for the remainder of the game

Vs

lynching an active poster that is overreacting to pressure whose posting should improve because they are clearly putting in effort under the pretext of gaining information day1

Everything we do "generates information". We should not pursue an inferior course of action because it will give us "information". If you are considering doing something for information then ask yourself whether of not the information you expect to gain will be of any worth. If we lynch grush we might get a few more polarised opinions about whether we should kill him and that is not worth much.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 04 2012 18:08 GMT
#436
On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:
I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies.

We are going to be polite in this game.

We are going to vote at appropriate times.

We are going to act in town's interest's using methods that are simple and explainable.

And we are going to destroy red.


On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:
@ SomethingAwesome i feel like killing you because you were posting stuff like this and this.

You first post is totally unsubstantiated.

You were asked by multiple player to explain you second post but your explanation is very weak
Show nested quote +
Answering for others IMO is super scummy because it means you know what they are thinking and what their motivations are, aka what alignment they are.

Even though townies answer questions addressed to others all of the time.

Show nested quote +

Me is hardcore BLU!

Making sure to blend in!

Why would you try to analyse the contents of that quote?
How on earth could saying "Me is hardcore BLU" have any relation to that players alignment?

@ Mementoss i am listening to a song called "no brains"

since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive

This is a policy lynch.

O_o
Explain.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 18:22 GMT
#437
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D
:3
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 18:41 GMT
#438
We have nobody that looks like scum.

This is the best way to use the lynch.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 18:47 GMT
#439
You look really anti town though so that is the best way to use the lynch

-D
:3
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 04 2012 18:57 GMT
#440
On May 05 2012 03:41 layabout wrote:
We have nobody that looks like scum.

This is the best way to use the lynch.

What about grush?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
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