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On May 01 2012 00:11 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 21:22 insectoceanx wrote:@Zealos You voted for imallinson before? Why are you voting for me now? @Townspeople We all need consensus to get a lynch through, as stossel said above me, sticking to the plan is important as Furthermore, the lynching of Arctic only serves to make an imallinson vote more worthwhile. The failure to lynch was not due to lack of suspicion and so scum could've easily kept Arctic alive another night to push imallinson for another lynching if he was town and used their hit to focus on someone else. Because you irritate me big time. How dare you come back after being a complete lurker, only to call the only people who bothered keeping town active mafia.
I'm sorry I may have said that wrong before. What I meant is that the people who did not vote are probably not mafia. It would seem really unfair if the mods let them get by with lynching people at nignt and not posting anything or voting all day. Therefore by active I meant anyone who has posted anything. I was not meaning to point the finger at the most active of the players.
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Also since none of the replacements who didnt vote havn't said anything its much harder to form a case against them and get consensus.
Meanwhile imallinson has posted very little of substance and has been a prime subject. He was arcticfox's prime suspect and he was lynched after the failed vote.
On May 01 2012 01:31 imallinson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 21:22 insectoceanx wrote:
We all need consensus to get a lynch through, as stossel said above me, sticking to the plan is important as What exactly is the plan. Because if it is blindly going along the same path as yesterday that isn't helpful. Along with this Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 10:50 insectoceanx wrote:
Also, since the replacements did not vote, the mafia must be someone who is still active.
Your recent posting doesn't make much sense unless you are trying to get town to blindly follow you into lynching an easy town target (me).
Why isnt lynching you a good plan? The only reason you werent lynched was because so many people didnt vote. Just because people did not vote all of a sudden proves your innocence?
i don't think all the pages of discussion about you is making the town blindly follow. Of course you are an easy town target as anyone could tell looking at your filter.
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Wow that leaves 4 townies and 2 mafia. Which means after the mafia kill we have one chance to get the vote right.
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On May 01 2012 17:31 oneplus wrote:
I have already made my analysis between draco who is stossel now and zealos which we have a comfirmed scum between them but none of you figure this out I am sad T.T stop helping the scum to miss lynch town anymore it sucks
What do you mean we have a confirmed scum between them?
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As the mafia kill approaches I thought I would go through and reasses my reads on all players.
1 Maju
I have been reading him a scum for most the game. But going back through and reading his repsonses and the posts he writes himself I am leaning more towards him being town. He has responded to questions of his guilt/intentions well and hasnt needlessly defended himself.
2. Draco/Stossel
@Stossel: Both you and I voted for imallinson. Now that he turned town what are your current reads for the 2 remaining mafia and why? Right now who would you vote to lynch? Also who is townie for sure?
3. Zealos
Still hasn't posted a cohesive arguement about anything and has had an aggressive stance about everything. As others have pointed out he has always been in the fos but never voted for. Definate cadidate for lynching, perhaps #1.
4 Dream
Voted for imallinson the first time around, second time around voted for me saying that imallinson flipping green would show a scumslip on my part. If dream is mafia himself he is trying to get town cred calling the green flip and throw me under the bus at the same time. This wouldnt stand out to me as mafia unless he hadnt just voted imallinson the day before without posting any reason at all for his change except to pick me out as mafia mislynching a townie.
@Dream: What changed that you no longer thought imallinson was scum?
5oneplus
My number one townread this game. Has stuck to his guns on Zealos for entire game and but still has had good posts regarding other players.
@oneplus: Who do you think the next player to lynch should be? I trust your judgement over everyone elses at this point.
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No one has posted anything too substantial in a while which is part of the problem. Townies only have one chance to get a correct lynch tonight or else the mafia wins. Now all of a sudden you launch an attack on me. I think you are the pot calling the kettle black.
I want to hear from everyone in this thread, we have 3 townies and 2 scum left. We are never going to figure out who is who if everyone is silent.
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Well zealos there really isnt that much to say about dream. His filter is only one page long. He posted a case on draco on the 23rd to 25th of april and since then he really hasnt posted anything that takes a solid stand on anything.
Again In ask stossel and maju to get in here and post. We cant separate the scum without you!
What is dramas case? 3 players did not vote, there are still curently still 3 scum alive. I say that the 3 who did not vote cant all be scum. The next night 2 of them do not vote again, 1 is not scum and 1 is. My point held true, that in our lynch all lurker mindset we were targeting townies that were inactive, while scum was able to post and be respected as a valued townie just because they were active.
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By saying I trusted oneplusses judgement was to say that I would trust his next target for a scumread. Yes he had suspicions on me, but just because he did it didn't change the fact that I was sure he was town. I was really hoping to get another post from oneplus before he was killed but that didnt happen.
With the statement I made about the people who did not vote. Yes I assumed, perhaps wrongly that if they had voted at least one or more would have voted for imallinson, if i am scum I wouldve known that imallinson would flip green and other mafia would vote for him most likely, but if i am not mafia and do not know what imallinson was It is still a safe assumption and was my assumption that imallinson was either scum or just posted so badly as to warrant a lynch, something that enough people believed in with me to lynch him again the next night.
If I was mafia why would I be trying to get everyone to talk since the last night. I would probably be doing what dream is doing and trying to throw someone I know to be town down. I admit my posting wasnt the best and I made myself into an easy target. I am not mafia and you will see that once you vote for me. I'm going to vote for dream and I'll be back again later to answer any questions.
##Vote: ForTheDr3am
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No I voted for him because I am town and he started the votes against me. If someone else has a better candidate I would consider switching.
FTD had been concentrating on Draco and then was pretty quiet. He voted for imallinson once and then when it looked like imallinson would get lynched the second time around he switched his vote to agaisnt me without much else of a reason.
I was trying to put off voting until everyone else got in here and also made some suggestions but as it is no one else is voting, so I'm going to vote for one of my top 2 suspects, FTD and zealos.
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You assume this lynch all lurker mindset is bad because you believe that the mafia would all be active. Well, lo and behold when the modkills came out, we saw that even a mafia member was inactive/lurking. Now I'm not saying we haven't made bad calls, the results speak for themselves, but flying under the radar is a viable tactic and is one we're right to look out for, especially in the first few days. This is why it's so important for townies to be active in the first few days so that mafia feel the pressure to be active as well and thus increase their chances of scumslipping.
I never said all the mafia would be active, some of it. The problem with the lynch all lurker attitude was that the whole town was not active. We lynched imallinson due to his inactivity and it bit us in the face. Then 2 people didnt vote 2 days in a row, with stossel not voting once. So yes lynch all lurkers could be good if everyone was active besides just a few people, but the level of inactivity in here could let mafia post one or two good posts that never have to be really backed up, and then just coast out to victory. Especially after we lost 2 of 12 players to inactivity which if it hadnt happened wouldve been another whole day/night cycle.
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