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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 28 2012 18:08 GMT
#321
This game is getting destroyed by inactivity. Come on people.
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 28 2012 22:54 GMT
#322
Wow, I would have rather had Draco trying to lynch me than these mute replacements. Even when Stossel posted again he just apologised then contributed nothing.

I still plan to vote for imallinson tonight. I know others voted for him just to have consensus so is anyone going to change their vote from yesterday?
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 02:03:42
April 29 2012 02:02 GMT
#323
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Day 3:


The previous day's lack of productivity had left the Vice President in a ferocious rage, so no one dared to question his absence at breakfast the next day. As the morning stretched, they decided that they had to begin the day's proceedings. When the Minister of Security opened his office door, they found the man face-down on the thick carpet, half a dozen bullet holes rending the back of his suit jacket.

ArcticFox, Vanilla Town, was killed!

It is now Day 3. The deadline is in 48 hours, 19:00 PST on 4/30/12. Remember to vote in this thread. Proper formatting is ##Vote: <NAME>


GMarshal and I will discuss what to do about the inactive players.
Trust in Bayes.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
April 29 2012 02:03 GMT
#324
Shocker.

gg, gl town
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 29 2012 11:06 GMT
#325
Great, so now it'll just be me talking to myself for the day.
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oneplus
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia34 Posts
April 29 2012 15:16 GMT
#326
hi zealos i would like to talk to you, i still like to vote for you haha but it seem pretty impossible to happen due to the inactivity and it make me so unmotivated to post with this number of active player
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 29 2012 17:41 GMT
#327
What do you wanna talk about? We have nothing to analyse?
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 29 2012 18:00 GMT
#328
Hello everyone, I'm sorry for being so quiet the past few days. I have been really ill and wasn't in a fit state to read through the thread and post a lot. I will try to remedy that from now. As for general reads I'm starting to think Zealos might be town. He still posts a ton of one liners but given general inactivity I can't really blame him for that. With Arctic dead he is probably the highest contributing player. I'm still suspicious of Draco/Stossel but it's hard to make a case against a replacement. Maju, Dream and Oneplus I still think are town. No one else has posted enough to get a good read on.
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 29 2012 19:00 GMT
#329
On April 30 2012 03:00 imallinson wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm sorry for being so quiet the past few days. I have been really ill and wasn't in a fit state to read through the thread and post a lot. I will try to remedy that from now. As for general reads I'm starting to think Zealos might be town. He still posts a ton of one liners but given general inactivity I can't really blame him for that. With Arctic dead he is probably the highest contributing player. I'm still suspicious of Draco/Stossel but it's hard to make a case against a replacement. Maju, Dream and Oneplus I still think are town. No one else has posted enough to get a good read on.

Once you get a chance to read through stuff can you post your responses to the cases against you? Hopefully that will give people something to discuss.
insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
April 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#330
Sorry I have not been on for the past day, was visiting family, will be back home later tonight and will be reading and posting.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#331
On April 30 2012 04:00 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:00 imallinson wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm sorry for being so quiet the past few days. I have been really ill and wasn't in a fit state to read through the thread and post a lot. I will try to remedy that from now. As for general reads I'm starting to think Zealos might be town. He still posts a ton of one liners but given general inactivity I can't really blame him for that. With Arctic dead he is probably the highest contributing player. I'm still suspicious of Draco/Stossel but it's hard to make a case against a replacement. Maju, Dream and Oneplus I still think are town. No one else has posted enough to get a good read on.

Once you get a chance to read through stuff can you post your responses to the cases against you? Hopefully that will give people something to discuss.


Well the case against me seems to basically be that I'm lurking, which I have explained, and not posting any strong views on people. The only person I had a strong read on was Draco but he was replaced so can't answer to that and his replacement has posted nothing besides a case against me and Zealos who are easy targets.

I was very suspicious of Zealos Day 1 and Day 2 he was still suspicious to me but behind Draco. His posting has been better as the game has gone on so I'm starting to think he might be town, he is one of the people actually contributing. However, he is still very defensive and suggests some stuff that seems bad for the town so I'm still reasonably suspicious of him.

I wasn't sure about Daniel and Mutant before they were replaced and their replacements haven't posted anything yet they could easily be scum but I can't make a case against them.

Dream seems to be contributing as does Oneplus which makes me think they are town however seeing as there is so little posting in general it would be easy for scum to hide in a middle ground posting wise.

Maju I'm really not sure on because it looks like he is contributing but his only real cases are against me and Zealos, again easy targets, so I think he might be trying to hide behind other people's cases.

Insect I'm fairly sure is town. He contributes a lot and if he keeps up the good posting from earlier then he is probably my top town read at the moment.

If there is any specific case you want me to answer I'll be happy to.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 29 2012 21:22 GMT
#332
What am I posting that is bad for town exactly?
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 29 2012 22:51 GMT
#333
On April 30 2012 06:15 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:00 MajuGarzett wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:00 imallinson wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm sorry for being so quiet the past few days. I have been really ill and wasn't in a fit state to read through the thread and post a lot. I will try to remedy that from now. As for general reads I'm starting to think Zealos might be town. He still posts a ton of one liners but given general inactivity I can't really blame him for that. With Arctic dead he is probably the highest contributing player. I'm still suspicious of Draco/Stossel but it's hard to make a case against a replacement. Maju, Dream and Oneplus I still think are town. No one else has posted enough to get a good read on.

Once you get a chance to read through stuff can you post your responses to the cases against you? Hopefully that will give people something to discuss.


Well the case against me seems to basically be that I'm lurking, which I have explained, and not posting any strong views on people. The only person I had a strong read on was Draco but he was replaced so can't answer to that and his replacement has posted nothing besides a case against me and Zealos who are easy targets.

I was very suspicious of Zealos Day 1 and Day 2 he was still suspicious to me but behind Draco. His posting has been better as the game has gone on so I'm starting to think he might be town, he is one of the people actually contributing. However, he is still very defensive and suggests some stuff that seems bad for the town so I'm still reasonably suspicious of him.

I wasn't sure about Daniel and Mutant before they were replaced and their replacements haven't posted anything yet they could easily be scum but I can't make a case against them.

Dream seems to be contributing as does Oneplus which makes me think they are town however seeing as there is so little posting in general it would be easy for scum to hide in a middle ground posting wise.

Maju I'm really not sure on because it looks like he is contributing but his only real cases are against me and Zealos, again easy targets, so I think he might be trying to hide behind other people's cases.

Insect I'm fairly sure is town. He contributes a lot and if he keeps up the good posting from earlier then he is probably my top town read at the moment.

If there is any specific case you want me to answer I'll be happy to.


+ Show Spoiler +

On April 27 2012 10:03 ArcticFox wrote:
Stossel -- welcome to the game! Love the first post. Easy question for you, to get you into the flow -- your predecessor seemed to have many, many, MANY things to say about Maju. What are your thoughts on him?

Now, I think we've given people ample time to show up and be useful. I'm more than ready to lock in my vote.

##Vote: imallinson

He's almost made it his job to be useless to town. Had absolutely no opinion on anybody in town in his big summary post ("seems town, seems scum, null read, might be scum" etc etc -- you can check his filter and read it, it's not hard to find in his 4 posts), except for yomi, who he bandwagoned onto very easily. He had an FoS on Zealos after that, then decided to make his 3rd post on....Dracolich? He has volunteered no other opinions seperate from when I asked him directly about Zealos and oneplus, and his post there was STILL the "leaning town" and "fairly scummy" non-commital posting style he's done.

In short, he's posted little, and what he's posted says nothing. He's scum and needs to hang.



+ Show Spoiler +

On April 27 2012 11:32 MajuGarzett wrote:
imallinson

Imallinson has been heavily lurking this game. With 5 days of play gone he has only made 5 posts. Of these, the first post essentially mentioned two players and said that he was unsure of either of them. This added nothing to the game. His first act of any gravity was to vote for yomi but this vote was one of the last votes cast and yomi was already the most likely choice to get lynched.At this point voting for yomi was an extremely safe move for mafia as it was a common choice and a townie would be lynched. Now that we know yomi was townie this vote becomes more suspicious. Alone it might not be much but combined with the lurking and lack of solid posting it becomes suspicious. Looking back at the accusation against yomi, it initially seems to have content but reeally the only thing he used against yomi was
Show nested quote +
He then tries to defend his vote for maju and doesn't do very well at it. "Why not" isn't a sufficient answer and I'm not buying the pressure vote excuse. It was such a baseless accusation that maju would never felt any real pressure. Again this feels like someone trying to look like he is contributing while not doing anything of the sort.

I personally see this accusation:
Show nested quote +
The asking everyone to post their previous games is strange. If you actually wanted to read through people's previous games you would just go and do it, especially given that the people in this game will have at most 2 other games. This seems to me to be trying to look like he is contributing.

as rather weak.

Imallinson recently contributed new ideas with his voting for Dracho (Gossemerr). We can see though that all the information used against Dracho in this post was posted before imallinson's initial list of reads. Why, imallinson, was none of this observed earlier? Also, Dracho was initially imallinson's third choice for scum behind yomi and Zealos. After yomi died Dracho suddenly moved up to first choice over Zealos with no explanation why his suspicions over Zealos diminished. After imallinsons first content filled post he finger of suspicions' Zealos while all the evidence that he later uses to vote Dracholich has already been posted. Also, he posted a lot more evidence against Dracho then against yomi. Assuming allin read everyone's posts carefully, his initial vote should have been for Dracho with yomi as a second choice. Why did that not happen imallinson?

I think there is a chance that both Zealos and imallinson are both scum and that imallinson has been keeping Zealos as a second choice to avid suspicion then voted for townies.




These are the ones in particular I would like you to respond to. There is more to the accusations than saying you were lurking.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#334
EBWOP

You really haven't explained why you haven't had much information. Also,why would a change of players negate your read. The new player has the same role as the old one.
insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
April 30 2012 01:50 GMT
#335
Well we still need to vote to lynch someone tomorrow. I feel we should still lynch imallinson, unless everyone has a different cadidate or he can convince us otherwise. It was the plan before, and I think would have gone through if all the replacements weren't inactive.

Also, since the replacements did not vote, the mafia must be someone who is still active.

My List:

imallinson
maju
zealos

##Vote: imallinson

Mods: What happens if the replacements aren't active by deadline?



MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 30 2012 03:05 GMT
#336
@insectoceanx

You've never really posted more than a few lines accusing imallinson. Do you have any reasons outside of imallinson's lurking or do you just generally agree with other people's accusations?
insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
April 30 2012 03:37 GMT
#337
Well what I posted is most everything I had thought of regarding him, plus what others have said. Without him having posted anything it is really hard to come up with anything else.

It seems he may have been defending his voting for yomi by saying that draco was being defending yomi just to get town cred.

This is a very soft defence of Yomi. Both this and the bad case against Maju make me think Draco is scum trying to get town cred when Yomi flips town.

There is more posts along the same line later on. More defence of his first two posts where he keeps pushing less scumhunting:


imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 30 2012 05:10 GMT
#338
On April 30 2012 12:37 insectoceanx wrote:
Well what I posted is most everything I had thought of regarding him, plus what others have said. Without him having posted anything it is really hard to come up with anything else.

It seems he may have been defending his voting for yomi by saying that draco was being defending yomi just to get town cred.

Show nested quote +
This is a very soft defence of Yomi. Both this and the bad case against Maju make me think Draco is scum trying to get town cred when Yomi flips town.

There is more posts along the same line later on. More defence of his first two posts where he keeps pushing less scumhunting:




I wasn't trying to say voting Yomi was either bad or good just that defending Yomi, knowing he is town, is an easy way for scum to get some town cred. It alone wouldn't make me think someone was scum but I can see it fitting someone's scum play. Also I wasn't trying to defend my vote for Yomi because there wasn't really any need to. There were perfectly valid reasons to vote for Yomi, if there weren't he wouldn't have got 7 votes.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 30 2012 05:14 GMT
#339
On April 30 2012 07:52 MajuGarzett wrote:
EBWOP

You really haven't explained why you haven't had much information. Also,why would a change of players negate your read. The new player has the same role as the old one.


It doesn't negate my read but it makes it impossible for the replacement to defend any cases made against them because the posting wan't theirs. So my suspicion of Draco transfers to Stossel but I am bearing in mind that Stossel can't defend Draco's posts. If he starts posting more pro-town then my suspicions will be lower.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 30 2012 11:08 GMT
#340
##Vote: insectoceanx
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