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[UoN]Sentinel
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johnnywup
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johnnywup
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On April 26 2012 11:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason The vig role of trying to shoot greens. yeah ok sentinel. you were thinking of scum kills. | ||
Janaan
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On April 26 2012 11:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen. We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are. On April 26 2012 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums. I'm sorry, but what? Look at the bolded sections. First they should do their work without revealing, then a tracker should reveal himself without any guarantee that we even HAVE a Jailkeeper? Not only can the JK not protect the tracker without the tracker being roleblocked, but no real tracker would claim unless they had some actual information that we could find scum with. These two posts in conjunction look pretty scummy to me. Not only is the advice to blues bad, he contradicts himself. | ||
johnnywup
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On April 26 2012 11:16 johnnywup wrote: The vig role of trying to shoot greens. yeah ok sentinel. you were thinking of scum kills. The shoot part, not the green part -__- On April 26 2012 11:28 Janaan wrote: I'm sorry, but what? Look at the bolded sections. First they should do their work without revealing, then a tracker should reveal himself without any guarantee that we even HAVE a Jailkeeper? Not only can the JK not protect the tracker without the tracker being roleblocked, but no real tracker would claim unless they had some actual information that we could find scum with. These two posts in conjunction look pretty scummy to me. Not only is the advice to blues bad, he contradicts himself. Oh god, and I was on a roll too... tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or maybe even later. Contingency we should get to work on right now, discussing what we could/should do with each possible combo of blues. There's only 6 of them, shouldn't be too hard. And then tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or later if tracker finds something worth revealing himself for. The way you phrase it looks like tracker's gonna claim it for the world to see and everyone will get along happily. I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else, but then you posted this: On April 26 2012 11:43 johnnywup wrote: my opinion for blue actions is that blues should do whatever they feel benefits town the most. they cannot consult town to find whats best so they should go by gut feeling and research. don't reveal yourself unless you're a vig, and if you're a vig, reveal only JUST before day post. tracker only reveal if you track someone visiting someone who died, JK should only reveal if there is a missing scum kill. I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid, although I'd add to that the scenario where tracker visits JK and someone doesn't die? 2x Mafia Goon: You may kill at night. You are not required to kill. Right now this is my only problem. JK can be thrown off. | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
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johnnywup
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Janaan
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On April 26 2012 11:50 johnnywup wrote: why would the tracker/jk plan work on any day? it roleblocks the tracker so they can't find anything new out Answer: It wouldn't. What do you think about the contradiction between the two posts that I pointed out? | ||
johnnywup
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On April 26 2012 11:14 johnnywup wrote: so how do you suppose we coordinate which power role targets which person? and JK roleblocks, so the tracker cant track if he's being protected by the JK. think things through, what you just said doesn't make sense. I'm asking Sentinel because he said "tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or maybe even later." | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
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On April 26 2012 11:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else <<johnny's post>> I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid | ||
Mementoss
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marvellosity
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On April 26 2012 21:05 Mementoss wrote: Damn, I have no good scum reads atm, hopefully can prod some players and find something eventually, still curious about ottoxlol, I will probably be afk most of the night. At this point I am happy to hear layabout on MG's case, as MG has been leaning the wrong side of null for me. Zephirdd flipping green has also helped get rid of some nagging doubts I had about layabout - because I thought Zeph was scum, I felt layabout's defence of him was a bit dodgy, but as it turns out he just had a better read on him than I did :/ Also we've now had the same situation twice: 1) BM ninja voting VE day 1 with a completely unacceptable reason given AFTER the lynch 2) St. Daniel ninja voting Zeph day 2 with NO excuse or reason | ||
marvellosity
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On April 26 2012 21:43 marvellosity wrote: At this point I am happy to hear layabout on MG's case, as MG has been leaning the wrong side of null for me. Zephirdd flipping green has also helped get rid of some nagging doubts I had about layabout - because I thought Zeph was scum, I felt layabout's defence of him was a bit dodgy, but as it turns out he just had a better read on him than I did :/ Also we've now had the same situation twice: 1) BM ninja voting VE day 1 with a completely unacceptable reason given AFTER the lynch 2) St. Daniel ninja voting Zeph day 2 with NO excuse or reason Further to this, I just went back and had a look-see, BM was also VE's primary scum candidate. I'm not sure how long we let 'meta' be an excuse to his complete lack of contribution and awful day 1 vote. On Day 2 of Mafia LI, wbg defended Toad multiple times on 'meta' but Toad was scum anyway. | ||
Mattchew
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marvellosity
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BroodKingEXE
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On April 23 2012 05:33 Risen wrote: Honestlyjohnnywup is my biggest scumread atm Pac. I have no idea why he thinks forwarding another lynch candidate at the last second is a good idea, and it just shits up the thread. Do we take the case against him seriously? Do we try and organize everyone to swap their votes over to zeph even though no one else has mentioned zeph as a serious candidate thus far? We can't do that, we don't have the time. I know I was against it before, but I don't see how marvel could be pushing a lynch on VE right now. We can't lynch our claimed JK. It's been stated in the thread but I'll state it again. You don't lynch a claimed doctor, and we shouldn't lynch the closest thing we have to a doctor. Is it possible VE is lying? Yup. He might be lying and be a vigi, or a tracker, or scum, or vanilla. Doesn't matter. The only shitty thing is that the person who is jailed doesn't know they were jailed, so I don't know how to confirm his claim. Regardless, a vote on VE is stupid. It's just like everyone who voted for me when I claimed a guaranteed sane detective with a red check. Only an idiot would vote for said blue unless it was LYLO. It's applicable here. We can't lynch someone who claims such a powerful blue role right now. Is it a shitty claim? Yeah. I don't think it was smart, but we have to roll with it now that it's in the open. Any trackers watch him, I guess. I'm voting marvel. Pre-EBWOP I just looked at the voting thread prior to hitting post. What the hell is going on? How can you lynch a claimed blue? This is so stupid. If need be I'll vote BM b/c I'm all for lynching someone who's being useless, but for now my vote is resting on marvel. ##vote marvellosity On April 23 2012 06:29 Risen wrote: I haven't even placed my vote on marv yet >.> It is my intention to do so, though. Everyone on VE should be shot/lynched. I'll vote for anyone on him. Only an idiot would vote for VE and we're better off with all of them dead. These posts from day 1 are confusing me, you seem to want to push lynching people that are scummy and that will be lynched (okay in my mind). In end you put your vote on Murray though, was it because you viewed your vote useless at this point? | ||
Mementoss
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marvellosity
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On April 26 2012 23:52 Mementoss wrote: I said this before and I'll say it again. I would really like a shot on Ottoxlol tonight, everyone voting him will still find him scummy, and it could potentially waste day 3 discussion. Also depending on Ottoxlols flip it could give us some insight to Risen saving him. Do you find it likely we have a vig when, for example, BM was not shot in Night 1? | ||
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