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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 26 2012 02:12 GMT
#1521
EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 26 2012 02:14 GMT
#1522
so how do you suppose we coordinate which power role targets which person? and JK roleblocks, so the tracker cant track if he's being protected by the JK. think things through, what you just said doesn't make sense.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 26 2012 02:16 GMT
#1523
On April 26 2012 11:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason

The vig role of trying to shoot greens. yeah ok sentinel. you were thinking of scum kills.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
April 26 2012 02:28 GMT
#1524
On April 26 2012 11:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen.

We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are.


On April 26 2012 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote:
vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.

and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them?


First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums.


I'm sorry, but what? Look at the bolded sections. First they should do their work without revealing, then a tracker should reveal himself without any guarantee that we even HAVE a Jailkeeper? Not only can the JK not protect the tracker without the tracker being roleblocked, but no real tracker would claim unless they had some actual information that we could find scum with. These two posts in conjunction look pretty scummy to me. Not only is the advice to blues bad, he contradicts himself.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 26 2012 02:43 GMT
#1525
my opinion for blue actions is that blues should do whatever they feel benefits town the most. they cannot consult town to find whats best so they should go by gut feeling and research. don't reveal yourself unless you're a vig, and if you're a vig, reveal only JUST before day post. tracker only reveal if you track someone visiting someone who died, JK should only reveal if there is a missing scum kill.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 26 2012 02:48 GMT
#1526
On April 26 2012 11:16 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason

The vig role of trying to shoot greens. yeah ok sentinel. you were thinking of scum kills.


The shoot part, not the green part -__-

On April 26 2012 11:28 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen.

We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are.


Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote:
vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.

and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them?


First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums.


I'm sorry, but what? Look at the bolded sections. First they should do their work without revealing, then a tracker should reveal himself without any guarantee that we even HAVE a Jailkeeper? Not only can the JK not protect the tracker without the tracker being roleblocked, but no real tracker would claim unless they had some actual information that we could find scum with. These two posts in conjunction look pretty scummy to me. Not only is the advice to blues bad, he contradicts himself.


Oh god, and I was on a roll too... tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or maybe even later. Contingency we should get to work on right now, discussing what we could/should do with each possible combo of blues. There's only 6 of them, shouldn't be too hard. And then tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or later if tracker finds something worth revealing himself for.

The way you phrase it looks like tracker's gonna claim it for the world to see and everyone will get along happily. I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else, but then you posted this:

On April 26 2012 11:43 johnnywup wrote:
my opinion for blue actions is that blues should do whatever they feel benefits town the most. they cannot consult town to find whats best so they should go by gut feeling and research. don't reveal yourself unless you're a vig, and if you're a vig, reveal only JUST before day post. tracker only reveal if you track someone visiting someone who died, JK should only reveal if there is a missing scum kill.


I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid, although I'd add to that the scenario where tracker visits JK and someone doesn't die?


2x Mafia Goon: You may kill at night. You are not required to kill.


Right now this is my only problem. JK can be thrown off.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 26 2012 02:48 GMT
#1527
Off to sleep. See you in 7 hours.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 26 2012 02:50 GMT
#1528
why would the tracker/jk plan work on any day? it roleblocks the tracker so they can't find anything new out
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
April 26 2012 03:06 GMT
#1529
On April 26 2012 11:50 johnnywup wrote:
why would the tracker/jk plan work on any day? it roleblocks the tracker so they can't find anything new out

Answer: It wouldn't. What do you think about the contradiction between the two posts that I pointed out?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 26 2012 03:13 GMT
#1530
I pointed it out before you lol
On April 26 2012 11:14 johnnywup wrote:
so how do you suppose we coordinate which power role targets which person? and JK roleblocks, so the tracker cant track if he's being protected by the JK. think things through, what you just said doesn't make sense.



I'm asking Sentinel because he said "tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or maybe even later."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 26 2012 09:37 GMT
#1531
On April 26 2012 11:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else

<<johnny's post>>

I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 26 2012 12:05 GMT
#1532
Damn, I have no good scum reads atm, hopefully can prod some players and find something eventually, still curious about ottoxlol, I will probably be afk most of the night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2012 12:43 GMT
#1533
On April 26 2012 21:05 Mementoss wrote:
Damn, I have no good scum reads atm, hopefully can prod some players and find something eventually, still curious about ottoxlol, I will probably be afk most of the night.


At this point I am happy to hear layabout on MG's case, as MG has been leaning the wrong side of null for me. Zephirdd flipping green has also helped get rid of some nagging doubts I had about layabout - because I thought Zeph was scum, I felt layabout's defence of him was a bit dodgy, but as it turns out he just had a better read on him than I did :/

Also we've now had the same situation twice:

1) BM ninja voting VE day 1 with a completely unacceptable reason given AFTER the lynch
2) St. Daniel ninja voting Zeph day 2 with NO excuse or reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2012 12:54 GMT
#1534
On April 26 2012 21:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:05 Mementoss wrote:
Damn, I have no good scum reads atm, hopefully can prod some players and find something eventually, still curious about ottoxlol, I will probably be afk most of the night.


At this point I am happy to hear layabout on MG's case, as MG has been leaning the wrong side of null for me. Zephirdd flipping green has also helped get rid of some nagging doubts I had about layabout - because I thought Zeph was scum, I felt layabout's defence of him was a bit dodgy, but as it turns out he just had a better read on him than I did :/

Also we've now had the same situation twice:

1) BM ninja voting VE day 1 with a completely unacceptable reason given AFTER the lynch
2) St. Daniel ninja voting Zeph day 2 with NO excuse or reason


Further to this, I just went back and had a look-see, BM was also VE's primary scum candidate. I'm not sure how long we let 'meta' be an excuse to his complete lack of contribution and awful day 1 vote.

On Day 2 of Mafia LI, wbg defended Toad multiple times on 'meta' but Toad was scum anyway.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 26 2012 13:04 GMT
#1535
St daniel seemed to be avoiding a modkill. He replaced out of his newbie game and seems to just be posting to skate by. I don't think you can actually get a read on anything he does. This is why we should have lynched him a BM day 1 and 2. Now a st. daniel lynch is a HUGE risk because there is no way of reading him accurately and BM (while I believe whole-heartedly he is scum) is also risky too. Lets not forget how Ottox was magically "saved" by the thread somehow in a very short period of time with not a whole lot of reason. I still think he is scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 26 2012 13:05 GMT
#1536
EBWOP: him and BM day 1*
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2012 13:15 GMT
#1537
I'll have to go over how the voting went down yesterday. I actually voted Zephirdd pretty late myself yesterday, but my intentions had been clear in this regard for most of the day.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
April 26 2012 14:19 GMT
#1538
On April 23 2012 05:33 Risen wrote:
Honestlyjohnnywup is my biggest scumread atm Pac. I have no idea why he thinks forwarding another lynch candidate at the last second is a good idea, and it just shits up the thread. Do we take the case against him seriously? Do we try and organize everyone to swap their votes over to zeph even though no one else has mentioned zeph as a serious candidate thus far? We can't do that, we don't have the time.

I know I was against it before, but I don't see how marvel could be pushing a lynch on VE right now. We can't lynch our claimed JK. It's been stated in the thread but I'll state it again. You don't lynch a claimed doctor, and we shouldn't lynch the closest thing we have to a doctor. Is it possible VE is lying? Yup. He might be lying and be a vigi, or a tracker, or scum, or vanilla. Doesn't matter. The only shitty thing is that the person who is jailed doesn't know they were jailed, so I don't know how to confirm his claim.

Regardless, a vote on VE is stupid. It's just like everyone who voted for me when I claimed a guaranteed sane detective with a red check. Only an idiot would vote for said blue unless it was LYLO. It's applicable here. We can't lynch someone who claims such a powerful blue role right now. Is it a shitty claim? Yeah. I don't think it was smart, but we have to roll with it now that it's in the open. Any trackers watch him, I guess.

I'm voting marvel. Pre-EBWOP I just looked at the voting thread prior to hitting post. What the hell is going on? How can you lynch a claimed blue? This is so stupid. If need be I'll vote BM b/c I'm all for lynching someone who's being useless, but for now my vote is resting on marvel.

##vote marvellosity


On April 23 2012 06:29 Risen wrote:
I haven't even placed my vote on marv yet >.> It is my intention to do so, though. Everyone on VE should be shot/lynched. I'll vote for anyone on him. Only an idiot would vote for VE and we're better off with all of them dead.

These posts from day 1 are confusing me, you seem to want to push lynching people that are scummy and that will be lynched (okay in my mind). In end you put your vote on Murray though, was it because you viewed your vote useless at this point?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 26 2012 14:52 GMT
#1539
I said this before and I'll say it again. I would really like a shot on Ottoxlol tonight, everyone voting him will still find him scummy, and it could potentially waste day 3 discussion. Also depending on Ottoxlols flip it could give us some insight to Risen saving him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2012 14:54 GMT
#1540
On April 26 2012 23:52 Mementoss wrote:
I said this before and I'll say it again. I would really like a shot on Ottoxlol tonight, everyone voting him will still find him scummy, and it could potentially waste day 3 discussion. Also depending on Ottoxlols flip it could give us some insight to Risen saving him.


Do you find it likely we have a vig when, for example, BM was not shot in Night 1?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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