On April 26 2012 09:16 PaqMan wrote:
Okay, so you believe that the actions you just did are lynch-worthy.

Soooo... why did you pull that voteswitch the first place? Did you not think about that before-hand?

I think it's pretty clear I panicked at the last second. I considered layabout's point that ottox was contributing to the thread more than zeph was and then my mind said well BM is voting ottox I should get off this guy. Then when I swapped I realized how stupid I was being and so I swapped back and wasn't even thinking about the fact that a tie would now lynch zephir.

I'm really sorry guys. This seems to happen to me in every game I'm in and I always end up screwing the thread up. I think I'm taking a break from mafia after this game.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

April 26 2012 00:20 GMT

#1503

On April 26 2012 09:18 BroodKingEXE wrote:
@Risen how frantic were you voting on day 1?

Why would I be frantic voting on Day 1? I was frantically trying to get people off VE if that's what you mean. I don't understand.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

April 26 2012 00:21 GMT

#1504

I'm sorry, can someone just clarify:

Was it that ottoxlol was set to be lynched and Risen fucked around with the majority mechanics and got zeph lynched instead?

Meanwhile, zeph flipped town. not good :/

gonna point it out again, because i refuse it to get lost - st. daniel's ninja vote

Gotta head off now. Some actions for tomorrow being resolving the clusterfuck of voting tonight and LURKERS.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 00:21 GMT

#1505

paqman what are you talking about? he's correct in his assertion that he's highly suspected by everyone, as he should be. he isn't acting like he wants people to lynch him, he's telling the truth. there's a difference.

a vig would shoot you because in the morning that information will give us information to lynch the rest of the scum. interestingly you said you'd be lynched tomorrow but you don't think you'll be shot, gf mb?

that being said zeph had a town read on risen so maybe he isn't the best lynch tomorrow..though we never got his thoughts on his voteswitch

and dont worry about it risen, you don't need to take a break. you just live and learn yeah?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

April 26 2012 00:22 GMT

#1506

EBWOP: Risen seems to have just confirmed my question

BroodKingEXE

United States829 Posts

April 26 2012 00:23 GMT

#1507

So why did you switch your vote so much(on day 1)? I am trying to figure out if this was a heat of the moment thing or a scum slip. I think you changed it 3 times and even said that you were fine changing to about 3 other people.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

April 26 2012 00:25 GMT

#1508

On April 26 2012 09:23 BroodKingEXE wrote:
So why did you switch your vote so much(on day 1)? I am trying to figure out if this was a heat of the moment thing or a scum slip. I think you changed it 3 times and even said that you were fine changing to about 3 other people.

Wait what? I placed a useless vote on layabout and then changed it once to BM way before deadline.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 00:28 GMT

#1509

In the heat of the moment everything seems scummy. my "he knew the rules and 'abused them' to get zeph lynched" argument is probably not true. Honestly I think it's a townie mistake actually. Something I would do a few games ago. that does NOT clear his name however. I don't think we should dwell too much about the vote switching though. look for other things to incriminate him, the voteswitch thing is unfortunate but it could happen to anyone

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 26 2012 00:34 GMT

#1510

Wow, Risen. That was pretty bad. I can't think of a single town reason to do what you just did. However. Assuming he makes good on his promise to post reads, everyone should try to take a step back and read them objectively if possible. I'm not saying he didn't just put himself at the forefront of my scum list, but it's still a possibility that he just made a really, really stupid decision as town.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 00:51 GMT

#1511

I think it's more likely its a stupid town decision actually. scum wouldn't expose themselves like that even if it meant killing one of their own, I think. I haven't been mafia before so I wouldn't know actually.

Also this made me completely question my own reads. I was so sure he was going to flip scum. This is the first game I've been super active with pushing reads and not sheeping as much. I created the case and I feel like I take responsibility for having a townie dead. It's unacceptable by me. Sorry.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 26 2012 01:39 GMT

#1512

can we lynch BM now?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 01:40 GMT

#1513

its night time mattchew

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 26 2012 01:45 GMT

#1514

i didn't know we weren't allowed to talk about tomorrows lynches at night time? sorry, mods please don't modkill me it was an honest mistake

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 01:55 GMT

#1515

you said "can we lynch BM now?"

i was just poking fun that you cant vote at night time, since you said "now". jeez o.o

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 26 2012 01:57 GMT

#1516

On April 26 2012 10:55 johnnywup wrote:
you said "can we lynch BM now?"

i was just poking fun that you cant vote at night time, since you said "now". jeez o.o

thought you were srs. meh

Mementoss

Canada2595 Posts

April 26 2012 01:59 GMT

#1517

That was, really, awkward. I was thinking of changing my vote to Zeph because of how I felt he was posting in the thread and how ottoxol was acting, but then I realized it was a heat in the thread thought. Damn guys. I donèt know what to think about Risen right now though. That being said still, if we have a vig shoot into this:

Marvellosity
BillMurray
layabout
Sentinel
Ottoxlol

I would really like a shot into Ottoxlol. If he comes up scum it makes Riven look really bad, if not Riven is sorta cleared as townie mistake. If he doesnèt die, hes GF and we lynch him next day.

If vig DOES shoot, donèt forget to claim.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

April 26 2012 02:05 GMT

#1518

Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen.

We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 26 2012 02:09 GMT

#1519

vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.

and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

April 26 2012 02:11 GMT

#1520

On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote:
vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.

and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them?

First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums.