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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 23:13 GMT
#1441
On April 26 2012 08:10 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 08:07 johnnywup wrote:
I'm thinking of doing a last second push onto you risen. I don't think theres enough time/people available to do it however. Come tomorrow I hope I see your name on the day post, shot from a vig. If not, I want you lynched. I'm confident you're scum now.


And you are confident why? I look forward to your case. Paq is probably pissing himself he's so happy he has a convert.


lol yeah i did. You still fail to actually explain yourself. You were telling Town on D1 to push Zeph hard. D2's about to be over, zeph's at high risk at being lynched and then you're saying that you didn't see anything scummy in his filter until just recently.

wassup with dat?
t(ツ)t
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 23:14 GMT
#1442
obviously youre not the only one who reacted risen but after he said what he meant you should understand what he meant rather than making it a bigger deal than it is
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 25 2012 23:19 GMT
#1443
On April 26 2012 08:14 johnnywup wrote:
obviously youre not the only one who reacted risen but after he said what he meant you should understand what he meant rather than making it a bigger deal than it is


Fair enough.

On April 26 2012 08:13 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 08:10 Risen wrote:
On April 26 2012 08:07 johnnywup wrote:
I'm thinking of doing a last second push onto you risen. I don't think theres enough time/people available to do it however. Come tomorrow I hope I see your name on the day post, shot from a vig. If not, I want you lynched. I'm confident you're scum now.


And you are confident why? I look forward to your case. Paq is probably pissing himself he's so happy he has a convert.


lol yeah i did. You still fail to actually explain yourself. You were telling Town on D1 to push Zeph hard. D2's about to be over, zeph's at high risk at being lynched and then you're saying that you didn't see anything scummy in his filter until just recently.

wassup with dat?


Why don't you go look at the timings of when I said that. I wanted zephyr dead in the night b/c he was lurking D1 and did a last second vote. He didn't die. D2 he presented himself and he's been here, no longer a death target in my book because he's not lurking anymore. He's been pushed hard and I haven't found anything he did to be scummy until very recently and in my mind that's more desperation than anything else. There is no contradiction.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 25 2012 23:21 GMT
#1444
On April 26 2012 08:13 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:27 layabout wrote:
Dont vote for zephird!

ottozlol's play suggests that he very well could be town because he has made the effort to do things that townies should do. His opinions have some level of consistency.

The same cannot be said for MidnightGaldius. His posting suggests that he is looking for easy candidates to push instead of scum to lynch.



Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:42 layabout wrote:
The two players that you feel forced into voting for each had a very low number (like 4 or 5 votes) of votes. Instead of voting for the players that received the most but still barely any votes ask yourself some questions:

Does this player care about the game? ( if the answer is no then there is a reduced chance that they are scum since scum will at least try to feign interest to look town)

Does this player care about finding scum?
ottoxlol yes, yes
zephird maybe maybe
MG yes no


Laya, why do you want to kill me if your read is that i am town?

That was supposed to say:
Could this player care about finding scum.

When i came back today i looked at the votes i read the thread and thought "we don't have a chance of lynching scum"
So i am going treat both you as zephird as if you are probably town.

Lynching you still has a chance of killing scum and was suspicious of you yesterday, so if it comes to it i will add my vote to your list to lessen reduced scum ability to create a swing should one of you turn out to be mafia (which i do not believe is the case).
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
April 25 2012 23:21 GMT
#1445
Back from school. I don't like the last minute pushes to switch votes from layabout or johnny. Not saying it's a scummy move, I just don't think it's a good idea. May I remind you, johnny, you said you're almost 100% certain that Zepherdd is scum, unless that's changed. I still think we have a scum lined up to lynch, so I don't see any reason to try to mix up the votes to a new target.

Also, it's fairly obvious that layabout didn't just claim vig. Not only would it be a dumb claim, if he really wanted to do that, he would've just done it instead of saying it cryptically.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 23:23 GMT
#1446
On April 23 2012 07:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
God damnit layabout. I was about to post how VE's claim made sense and how he was town, but then you convince me the opposite. Geez.

And this martyring post from VE only makes sense from two PoVs:
- He really is a JK and he will let town use his flip information to deal with what happened during the day
- He is scum trying to sound like that.

Also, right now, I see no reason to lynch Bill Murray - he should be vigged, not lynched if he doesn't contribute soon.

VE, what is your stance on gonzaw, especially after his series of (Seemingly) drunk posts?
Also, please make the case against the certain scum you are talking about. Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from. In fact, I'll take you are claiming scum if you don't do that.


That last post combined with, oh I was totally thinking VE was town but layabout you changed my world view bro post is horrible.. There's no way we can get the votes on him today, I'm sorry johnny. I didn't believe you before, and I thought you were scummy. My bad, I dropped the ball. Push this guy tomorrow, push him hard. I'm being too belligerent right now and I need to cool off.


I dunno, doesn't seem like you thought he's scum because he's lurking.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 25 2012 23:24 GMT
#1447
I understand, but

ottoxlol yes, yes
zephird maybe maybe

Somehow I read this that you think Zeph is scummier
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 25 2012 23:26 GMT
#1448
On April 26 2012 08:13 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 08:10 Risen wrote:
On April 26 2012 08:07 johnnywup wrote:
I'm thinking of doing a last second push onto you risen. I don't think theres enough time/people available to do it however. Come tomorrow I hope I see your name on the day post, shot from a vig. If not, I want you lynched. I'm confident you're scum now.


And you are confident why? I look forward to your case. Paq is probably pissing himself he's so happy he has a convert.


lol yeah i did. You still fail to actually explain yourself. You were telling Town on D1 to push Zeph hard. D2's about to be over, zeph's at high risk at being lynched and then you're saying that you didn't see anything scummy in his filter until just recently.

wassup with dat?

from what i read, he says he was pushing cause of lurking d1

pushing a lurker hard is MUCH different than pushing a scum candidate.

When you push a lurker you cant be like "im just pushing you to get you to talk" because then it means nothing cause you don't actually want to lynch them. You have to force them into talking by threatening their lynch.

That said i don't agree that there is nothing scummy in Zeph's filter, his reaction to VE flipping blue was total bullshit and was an attempt to muscle town into alleviating any suspicions of him because he helped lynch a blue. I didn't and still don't like that.

Ottoxlol is so scummy though. He constantly tries to buddy town and play passively. If you look at the context of his posts instead of the content you would see that he is pretty much only posting to defend himself or to make the rest of town happy. He is afraid of the spotlight, aggression and sharing his opinions. This is why I will vote Ottox over Zeph in the end (ANNOUNCING MY LAST HOUR SWITCH), even though we should be lynching BM

##unvote Bill Murray
##vote Ottoxlol
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 25 2012 23:26 GMT
#1449
On April 26 2012 08:23 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 07:51 Risen wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
God damnit layabout. I was about to post how VE's claim made sense and how he was town, but then you convince me the opposite. Geez.

And this martyring post from VE only makes sense from two PoVs:
- He really is a JK and he will let town use his flip information to deal with what happened during the day
- He is scum trying to sound like that.

Also, right now, I see no reason to lynch Bill Murray - he should be vigged, not lynched if he doesn't contribute soon.

VE, what is your stance on gonzaw, especially after his series of (Seemingly) drunk posts?
Also, please make the case against the certain scum you are talking about. Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from. In fact, I'll take you are claiming scum if you don't do that.


That last post combined with, oh I was totally thinking VE was town but layabout you changed my world view bro post is horrible.. There's no way we can get the votes on him today, I'm sorry johnny. I didn't believe you before, and I thought you were scummy. My bad, I dropped the ball. Push this guy tomorrow, push him hard. I'm being too belligerent right now and I need to cool off.


I dunno, doesn't seem like you thought he's scum because he's lurking.


Maybe b/c there were a million lurkers D1 so to be even more hated in my mind you'd have to do something stupid like a last minute vote? He was leaning red start D2, he became greener to me with his posting, he started to appear more scummy but in my mind that's desperation about being a candidate for lynching. I think zephir is stupid, but I think he's stupid town. I'm not switching my vote to him.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
April 25 2012 23:29 GMT
#1450
On April 26 2012 08:26 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 08:23 johnnywup wrote:
On April 23 2012 07:51 Risen wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
God damnit layabout. I was about to post how VE's claim made sense and how he was town, but then you convince me the opposite. Geez.

And this martyring post from VE only makes sense from two PoVs:
- He really is a JK and he will let town use his flip information to deal with what happened during the day
- He is scum trying to sound like that.

Also, right now, I see no reason to lynch Bill Murray - he should be vigged, not lynched if he doesn't contribute soon.

VE, what is your stance on gonzaw, especially after his series of (Seemingly) drunk posts?
Also, please make the case against the certain scum you are talking about. Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from. In fact, I'll take you are claiming scum if you don't do that.


That last post combined with, oh I was totally thinking VE was town but layabout you changed my world view bro post is horrible.. There's no way we can get the votes on him today, I'm sorry johnny. I didn't believe you before, and I thought you were scummy. My bad, I dropped the ball. Push this guy tomorrow, push him hard. I'm being too belligerent right now and I need to cool off.


I dunno, doesn't seem like you thought he's scum because he's lurking.


Maybe b/c there were a million lurkers D1 so to be even more hated in my mind you'd have to do something stupid like a last minute vote? He was leaning red start D2, he became greener to me with his posting, he started to appear more scummy but in my mind that's desperation about being a candidate for lynching. I think zephir is stupid, but I think he's stupid town. I'm not switching my vote to him.


He became greener with his posting? You know, where he fully justifies his 2 votes he made today?

With absolutely nothing? ffs
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 23:34 GMT
#1451
I'd like to restate: Anyone who last minute vote-switches should be primary vig targets and future lynch targets. The votes are spread somewhat thin, and it will be easy for scum to have a mislynch with a last minute voteswitch.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 25 2012 23:39 GMT
#1452
On April 26 2012 08:36 layabout wrote:
##unvote MignightGladius

##vote ottoxlol


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 25 2012 23:42 GMT
#1453
I hope tomorrow youll answer it why me not zeph, I still don't get it
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 23:43 GMT
#1454
at least laya is honest about killing ottox if he didn't switch votes lol.

@_@
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 25 2012 23:45 GMT
#1455
On April 26 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote:
at least laya is honest about killing ottox if he didn't switch votes lol.

@_@

....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 23:47 GMT
#1456
I better be wrong about OttoxI. It's pretty clear that Ottox is just bad town.
If you compare him with Zeph, zeph is a hellota scummier than Ottox.
t(ツ)t
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 23:48 GMT
#1457
I'm not saying I like it, mementoss

I guess lynch is in 10 minutes.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 25 2012 23:50 GMT
#1458
On April 26 2012 08:47 PaqMan wrote:
I better be wrong about OttoxI. It's pretty clear that Ottox is just bad town.
If you compare him with Zeph, zeph is a hellota scummier than Ottox.


How do you come to the conclusion that ottox is just bad town and zephyr is scum?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 25 2012 23:52 GMT
#1459
Can anyone figure out the vote count? I'm panicking having my vote on the same target as BM
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 25 2012 23:52 GMT
#1460
So its seems like ill get lynched, ill post my thoughts

MG + Risen are most likely scum.

Zeph Sent Mementoss laya are my other candidates.

Zeph had some very strange logic and posts

Sent is getting better, but the VE lynch is still there.

Mementoss said his problem with me that i did not scumhunt at all, I posted the case on VE d1, d2 I tried to be helpful, posted case, took a stance, he did not lift his vote contrary to his post.

laya stated that i am most likely town, zeph is maybe then he voted me for the kill.
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