EPTHowever, his recent posts have been much better, and I can't place him in a scum agenda, so I'm not confident enough to name him as scum.
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MidnightGladius
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However, his recent posts have been much better, and I can't place him in a scum agenda, so I'm not confident enough to name him as scum. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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johnnywup
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iGrok
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On April 22 2012 14:45 Janaan wrote: I will say this, VE's claim fits his critique of Gonzaw's plan perfectly. At this point, I have no reason to doubt his claims. Paqman, it's like you're purposely misunderstanding Mattchew about VE's claim, I understood exactly what he meant the first time he said it. Either that, or you just don't want to believe that Mattchew is actually making sense, which leads me to believe that you're tunneling him a bit too hard. Please, try to step back and objectively read what Mattchew is saying. At the moment, none of the cases are terribly convincing for me. I also hate the fact that we're well over half through with day 1 and there are still players who haven't said a single word since the game started. I don't know if scum is among them or not, but at this point, it's impossible to tell. The one vote that does make sense to me right now is Bill Murray. He's proven that he's in the thread, he's posted a few times, but he really doesn't seem to care at all. All his posts are entirely void of content, which makes me think that either he's scum trying to get away with not saying anything or he's a townie who just doesn't care about the game. Bill, if you DO care, start being more useful please. ##Vote: Bill Murray I won't be on for another 14 hours or so, I'll be back in the thread around then if anything happens. to this: On April 25 2012 02:55 Janaan wrote: At work so I don't have much time. Ottoxlol, my question to you is this: You say you want to lynch to gain information. Ok, fine. That's not a good mindset, but I'll accept that you think it's a good idea for a minute. What I don't understand is why that makes BM the best lynch. He himself hasn't given any firm stances, and as far as I can tell, there hasn't been anyone who hasn't at least questioned him for lurking, and NO ONE has defended him. So exactly what information will we gain from lynching him that makes it the best choice? Working from the mindset that lynching for information is a good idea, it would make more sense to me to lynch a more controversial target. Namely how he went from BM being his one true stance to saying we shouldn't lynch BM because he's so scum nobody would drop information or give intel. Otherwise, he just seems to agree with the general mood of the thread on everything. So he's either decent town or clever scum. I'd be betting the former at this point because I have nothing to accuse him of. | ||
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johnnywup
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Didn't notice the BM thing. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 25 2012 10:56 johnnywup wrote: Janaan is the only person I have on my powerpoint that I don't have some sort of shade of red or green. What do you guys make of him? I read him in isolation the other day, and even if his filter is only a page, his posting is very protown i've got him in my leaning town category, and gonzaw had him as a townread with mattchew and layabout | ||
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MidnightGladius
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marvellosity
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Bill Murray
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On April 25 2012 11:17 Bill Murray wrote: I read him in isolation the other day, and even if his filter is only a page, his posting is very protown i've got him in my leaning town category, and gonzaw had him as a townread with mattchew and layabout notice that, marvellosity? You're failing to realize I'm talking about the same post you're talking about  I saw the Sentinel case, and it has put him in my scum list, but he is behind both Ottoxlul and St.Daniel in terms of who I want to lynch today. | ||
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St.Daniel
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johnnywup
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
On April 25 2012 11:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What I'd like to know about Janaan is how he came from this to this: Namely how he went from BM being his one true stance to saying we shouldn't lynch BM because he's so scum nobody would drop information or give intel. Otherwise, he just seems to agree with the general mood of the thread on everything. So he's either decent town or clever scum. I'd be betting the former at this point because I have nothing to accuse him of. Keep in mind first off that these two quotes are 2.5 days apart. A lot happened between them. I've had other scum reads, BM actually started posting a little bit, etc. At this point I don't consider him "so scum" as you put it. Definitely still scummy, but not the scummiest. The second quote in particular, I didn't say anything about him being "so scum". I'm basically noting that there isn't really anyone in the thread who is defending BM. This was in response to Ottoxlol suggesting that BM be lynched because it would provide information that would lead to scum lynches. I was trying to get him to tell me just what information he expected that would be so valuable that would be worth lynching someone that Ottox didn't actually say he specifically thought was scum. Maybe he did, I don't know, but if he did, he sure didn't say it. What I was getting at with that post was this: I wanted Ottox to tell me essentially why he picked BM instead of other people he had listed. He said he wanted "information", so what information was he expecting to get that would make it worth a possible mis-lynch in his mind, since he hadn't specifically said he thought BM was scum? I honestly couldn't think of anything that would be worth that, even stepping into his mindset that lynching for information in the first place is a good idea. Since no one had taken a "pro BM" stance (just anti or ignore), if a bandwagon started and he is scum, it would be all too easy for scum-mates to just sidestep the issue, say he's just a lurker, and pass on by OR if the bandwagon looked strong enough, make an easy case that he's been lurking and get on the bandwagon no questions asked. I can't think of a piece of incriminating evidence that could potentially come out of lynching BM, if information is the goal of the lynch in the first place. | ||
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St.Daniel
United States29 Posts
thinking about it, I retract my previous statement about marvellosity. For now. Why are you retracting your statement? What made you think that your previous analysis on Marvellosity was lacking or invalid? There must be a reason why you are not as sure as you were before. Also, "for now?" Do you still think Marv is a scum? PS - I'm trying to get back into the game. | ||
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
On April 25 2012 11:20 marvellosity wrote: I'd like a couple of other people to answer on Sentinel too (jdub, BM as you're here for a change) Sentinel is still scummy to me right now, at the moment, though, I'd prefer a Zepherrd or Ottoxlol lynch today. Sentinel has slowly started looking better with his last couple posts, so I suppose he does have that going for him. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On April 25 2012 09:27 johnnywup wrote: I guess since no one's voting Zephirdd, I'll have to remake a case against him. I'm only going to post my thoughts on one post because I think it's enough to show how scummy Zephirdd is. This post really pisses me off. I already posted I didn't like this and I thought it was contradictory. After I posted my disapproval of this post he says "Let me just place a palm in my face in the hopes that you realize how much of a bad logic that was." To restate what's wrong with it, if it's not obvious...it's that he says he Votes Marv because people had been voting him. Ok, sheeping. He hadn't analyzed him yet. Ok, relying on other people to be right. That's all scummy but the next thing blows it away. "I meant that marvellosity was a reasonable player to place a vote on and not look bad for voting VE". I think this is basically claiming scum because he basically admits to knowing how VE would flip. He knew he'd look bad if he voted VE before the lynch. How is that possible? Because he's mafia, obviously. His vote on marvellosity aside, that line alone makes him almost 100% scum in my eyes, and I already suspected him at that point. | ||
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johnnywup
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
##Vote: Zepherrd I'll be back on tomorrow a few hours before the deadline. Start consolidating those votes, right now we have them FAR too spread out. It would be too easy for scum to force a no lynch if things stay the way they are. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote: johnnywup I missed this case before, I think a couple of ppl too because no one really talked about this. I am feeling confident voting for johnny. ##Vote: johnnywup This case is getting lost yet again. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Bill Murray - 2 votes Mattchew [UoN]Sentinel Risen - 1 Vote Paqman johnnywup - 1 Vote Ottoxlol Zephirdd - 2 Vote johnnywup Janaan Ottoxlol - 4 Votes Mementoss Risen Bill Murray Zephirdd [UoN]Sentinel - 1 Vote ghost_403 Ottoxlol is currently to be lynched (and I'll switch back my vote to him if we can agree on it) | ||
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