• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:39
CEST 07:39
KST 14:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon84Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
[D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5579 users

TL Mafia 'Area' LIII - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 15 Next All
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 19:08 GMT
#1130
How many times would you like me to answer that
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 19:27 GMT
#1132
On April 24 2012 21:35 Mattchew wrote:
He ninja voted the most well known scum hunter in the game... To me that's like saying hi I'm
Scum lynch me... And he hasn't said anything of value if you think he has you are reading something I'm not

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 20:26 GMT
#1145
layabout, instead of being upset by the lack of direction, why don't you step up and take a stance on someone and get the ball rolling.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 20:30 GMT
#1153
On April 25 2012 05:28 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 03:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@MIxMasterToss: I could see that. Alright, let's lynch Sentinel today, and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?


Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:19 ghost_403 wrote:
Sentinel has two votes. I vote we lynch him today and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?


Sorry ghost I didn't get it, who do you want to get lynched today and tomorrow?

why are you worried its you?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 20:32 GMT
#1155
On April 25 2012 05:21 MidnightGladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:19 ghost_403 wrote:
Sentinel has two votes. I vote we lynch him today and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?


Well, that's that. Nice knowing you, scum.

##Unvote: johnnywup
##Vote: ghost_403

literally nothing scummy about that considering the context of the game. Why do you think its scummy?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#1165
We should still lynch BM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 20:42 GMT
#1168
On April 25 2012 05:38 MidnightGladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:36 ghost_403 wrote:
@Midnight: I found two scum. I'm saying let's lynch the one today and the other tomorrow. Lynching scum sounds like a good idea to me.


And I think that that's presumptuous and downright misleading, considering that you're discounting an entire Day/Night's worth of information. The only reason you would want to start tomorrow's lynch train today would be to try and minimize discussion tomorrow, which is incredibly scummy, considering that with BJ's modkill, we could be at LYLO very quickly.

so you can predict the future? You know that ghost is unwilling to discuss this tonight and tomorrow and will not re-evaluate?

i said we should lynch BM today and Ottox/zeph tomorrow.

am i killing discussion? + Show Spoiler [ Answer] +
no, I am trying to lynch scum


ps if you wanna call this buddying or soft/hard defense, idc DO IT
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:12 GMT
#1180
off the top of my head, all these players have cases or atleast strong reads

Mementoss
MidnightGladius
Ghost_403
Marvellosity
johnnywup
Mattchew
layabout
[UoN]Sentinel
PaqMan
Zephirdd


That leaves these players with no reads (including you ottox) Do you see the difference between you and them?
Janaan - hasn't been posting
Risen - hasn't been posting
Broodkingexe - hasn't been posting
St.Daniel - hasn't been posting
Ottoxlol - has been posting actively
Bill Murray - lurker scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:16 GMT
#1182
but that has evolved.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:17 GMT
#1183
into him ninja voting VE (not just some random), letting VE get lynched, yelling at others for lynching VE, and overall terrible posting. I think his town meta atleast has him say he'll try hard at somepoint
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:23 GMT
#1185
On April 25 2012 06:20 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am posting actively because every hour someone comes and asks the same questions since BJ's case.

Should I retreat till I can post a case? Defending myself is the only useful thing I can do atm (something VE did not do).

Do you actually think self defense does anything pro-town? You have a completely skewed view of yourself, your posts, and your actions as scum or town.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:32 GMT
#1188
On April 25 2012 06:28 Ottoxlol wrote:
Of course defending myself is pro-town, what is this question i don't even.

The second part is very nice of your post. Maybe I am the helicopter!

Maybe, if instead of defending yourself, you just scum hunt and let your play in the game do the defending for you? Instead you ignore the message of my post and just critique it like you have any idea what you are talking about.

You have firmly upgraded yourself from maybe ignorant to just arrogant, thus making you scum.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:35 GMT
#1191
On April 25 2012 06:33 Ottoxlol wrote:
So you would rather have me not posting then try to prevent a misslynch?

you have 2 votes on you with over 24 hours before the lynch and you think your preventing a mislynch? This is a new height of paranoia
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:37 GMT
#1193
when you say badly defending people, do you mean badly as in his reasoning and logic is bad, or do you mean bad because you think they are bad people to defend?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:39 GMT
#1196
On April 25 2012 06:38 Ottoxlol wrote:
I tried I came up with nothing. I posted it 10 times at least. I wouldn't get on any case just for the sake of having a case.

so you could, you know, read others cases and posts your thoughts about them (the ones that don't pertain to you) instead of pretending they don't exist.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:41 GMT
#1198
On April 25 2012 06:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:37 Mattchew wrote:
when you say badly defending people, do you mean badly as in his reasoning and logic is bad, or do you mean bad because you think they are bad people to defend?


the soft defences were on BM/Sentinel

I meant badly as in reasoning/logic. On zephirdd, picking up on his pre-day 1 lynch behaviour, which as i made clear in my post was irrelevant. Followed by quoting half of my subsequent case where i was simply laying things out.

the problem I have is i don't disagree with what layabout wrote about BM/Sentinel. I don't know about zeph cause thats more of a you and him issue, but his other 2 posts seem to not be soft defenses as much as his reason for disagreeing. I don't find them scummy
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:43 GMT
#1199
On April 25 2012 06:40 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:17 Mattchew wrote:
into him ninja voting VE (not just some random), letting VE get lynched, yelling at others for lynching VE, and overall terrible posting. I think his town meta atleast has him say he'll try hard at somepoint

If that is the evolution of your case, then i think that your case is about to become a victim of natural selection
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone?

In all seriousness
The ninja vote in that context is not alignment indicative.
Letting VE get lynch is something that only the people on BM did anything to stop.
Terrible posting is a vague criticism and depending on the critic could be misapplied or applied to nearly anyone in the game.
As far as i am aware he didn't yell at others for lynching VE, the closest post is here:

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 14:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I would be pretty hypocritical to vote him for that. I don't see it. It is really easy to mistake someone who is nervous with a Doctor or Jailkeeper role as being mafia... It's something we can't help. VE's vote for me was more like a placeholder. I was pretty busy during the time period. I didn't expect to get wagonned by mafia and for him to actually die. VE is a great player that shouldn't ever be lynched on D1. We should have lynched someone like Paqman on policy, though I'm glad we didn't now. His "we could have 3 vigs" comment cracked me up.

He says he put the vote on VE (which was before the claim)
He says he was busy and was unable to come back and change his vote.

The questionable part (unless you think he is a liar) is why he would put his place holder vote on a player that he thinks should never be lynched day1 one.

But when do we stop saying "oh its BM" and say "lynch that scum"
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 21:52 GMT
#1201
On April 25 2012 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:39 marvellosity wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:37 Mattchew wrote:
when you say badly defending people, do you mean badly as in his reasoning and logic is bad, or do you mean bad because you think they are bad people to defend?


the soft defences were on BM/Sentinel

I meant badly as in reasoning/logic. On zephirdd, picking up on his pre-day 1 lynch behaviour, which as i made clear in my post was irrelevant. Followed by quoting half of my subsequent case where i was simply laying things out.

the problem I have is i don't disagree with what layabout wrote about BM/Sentinel. I don't know about zeph cause thats more of a you and him issue, but his other 2 posts seem to not be soft defenses as much as his reason for disagreeing. I don't find them scummy


Alright, I'm willing to be wrong on this one. I'm going to keep it in my mind though because it jumped out at me.

At this point I think layabout has posted generally strongly, and he's not one of my scumreads. I just found what I posted to be odd.

I have this problem as well where I can't tell the difference between soft defense and (idk the term lets call it) "thread logic protection" and i also cant tell the difference between buddying and townies banding together to push a lynch
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 22:02 GMT
#1204
I have class (now) and its been a long day I might post again tonight but it will probably be tomorrow
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 23:34 GMT
#1218
Where did paqman go? (in class from phone)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 164
ProTech135
Nina 79
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2002
Hyuk 355
Bale 160
Aegong 39
Noble 12
Icarus 9
League of Legends
JimRising 671
Other Games
summit1g15212
Maynarde145
Mew2King55
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1186
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH360
• practicex 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota285
League of Legends
• Lourlo1400
• Stunt338
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 21m
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
5h 21m
Monday Night Weeklies
10h 21m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d 5h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.