On April 24 2012 12:26 gonzaw wrote:
Ehmm, I don't want anybody to be a dbag to anybody, I just want people to post thoughts and shit before they are (potentially) killed.

But okay, if it goes against the spirit of the game then I guess it's fine (but to be honest it gets kind of boring >_> ).

Will Day 2 end 48 hours from the Day post, or 48 hours from when the Day post should have been posted? (as in, will it end 44 hours from now or more than 48?)

i was referring to all the swearing and name calling (mostly in day 1)

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 03:35 GMT

#990

and igrok take your time we are already not worthy of the awesomeness that is you as a host

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 03:42 GMT

#996

##vote Bill Murray....

and you should too

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 12:17 GMT

#1055

Ottox lynch is fine for tommorrow today we should lynch confirmed scum in bm

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 12:35 GMT

#1064

He ninja voted the most well known scum hunter in the game... To me that's like saying hi I'm
Scum lynch me... And he hasn't said anything of value if you think he has you are reading something I'm not

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 13:30 GMT

#1070

On April 24 2012 21:37 marvellosity wrote:

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I asked more than one question.

I posted my reads on Everyone... Zeph has gotten worse since the flip big time. But ottox is trying to play the "I'm a newb and can't make a case" card... This screams scum to me louder than zeph trying to tell us what to think about his ve vote and trying to deflect the backlash of ve flipping blue. Sent is non existent but not as scummy as bm or Ottox or zeph

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 14:19 GMT

#1076

Oh right... Forgot about st Daniel... Yeah we need to lynch him too if a vig doesn't get to shooting

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 15:27 GMT

#1084

Lurkers: Janaan, St Daniel, Broodking Exe, Bill Murray, Sentinel

Scum-reads - Zeph, Ottox (will probably post more about this later today or tomorrow)

Also, Risen has not improved in a way that allows me to use meta anymore to defend him. He did adamantly try and protect he best townie (and a blue) from lynch however. I can't see a reason for scum doing this, but then again that might be EXACTLY why he did it. idk, but he is probably the scummiest after the other 6.

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 15:46 GMT

#1086

On April 25 2012 00:42 Ottoxlol wrote:

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How's the first post any better then the second?

Its not, I am not basing my read on you on your reads or 1 post in particular, I am basing it off of how you have posted.

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 17:53 GMT

#1118

ghost you feel like your coaching ottox more then pressuring him. am i wrong in feeling this way?

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 17:57 GMT

#1121

ottox can you link me to your 2 posts (cases) about VE before and after his claim. Thanks

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 18:13 GMT

#1125

@Ghost
I am trying to decipher if he is ignorant (town) or arrogant (scum) with his read on VE. He originally posted this on VE's stance on Gonzaw's plan

First:
Almost every point he makes is only working if JK's cooperate, I don't see how did you miss that (point 6). He clearly states that JKs should work with the claims and then you try to confute his plan with this.

Second:
VE you havent responded to why did you tried to argue the plan away with the JK stuff

Third:
I still find it amazing that VE missed the point about JKs and still not responding directly why wouldn't the JKs not follow the plan.

Then he posted this as his case

On April 22 2012 06:46 Ottoxlol wrote:
Yeah sure.

VE
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marvellosity said: One thing I didn't like about the whole gonzaw - VE exchange was VE's pretty bad breakdown of gonzaw's plan. It seemed to amount to this - if JK doesn't agree with the plan, then the plan is bad. But... the whole idea of the plan was that everyone agreed to it, so the JK was obviously on board, it was a terrible criticism. Looking further into VE's filter, I didn't see any further substantial objection, and he went forward to accusing gonzaw for his 'scumslip', which was at best minor, and can generally be read as unimportant.

I asked him 3 times about this and no response.

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ANYONE PUSHING A MASS-VIG-CLAIM IS DOING SO ALONGSIDE CLAIMED SCUM

After failing to comprehend the plan, he tried this shouting-tunneling on gonzaw, i found it rather amusing. His posts are also very non-constructive.

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Anyway, my vote on gonzaw stands - especially now that he thinks I'm scum because I disagree with a mass-claim plan. Unbelievable.

He's playing 1v1 with gonzaw, doesnt care about anyone else.

The funny thing is, once VE claimed JK, it should have been like an epiphany to ottox, because his case hinged on VE not understanding that the JK's will play ball, but VE was the JK. Instead he continues to push him using this logic

On April 22 2012 15:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
VE, why did u claim? + Show Spoiler +

I was going to die N1 anyway - this way we don't waste today wondering if I'm town or not.

What makes you think scum would kill you n1? Esp if you have the 2nd-3rd most votes first day.
If you are indeed town and JK, you shouldn't have claimed.

This is super bad logic IMO but a TON of people made this mistake of saying "he didn't play a role like I would, he must be scum" so this doesn't really have an alignment

On April 22 2012 16:36 Ottoxlol wrote:
He has 5 votes right now against marv's 6.

Is he a good player?

He argued we shouldn't give any info to the scum then claim he's a JK.

If he did not claim and we lynch marv or anyone, then scum wouldnt kill him because he had votes.

This contradiction is enough for me to vote VE, everyone saying he is a good player, if he is indeed town JK he shouldn't have played this way. So I trust you guys on that he is good also that means he is a scum.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

This is a forced contradiction IMO. and he speculates on scum kills. he also does the previous "not playing role like i thought he would, he must be scum" again.

This equals newb scum to me. His recent posting hasn't really said anything so its pointless to look into other then from a multi-post view that he is posting to appear active but not really saying anything

Mattchew

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April 24 2012 18:18 GMT

#1128

On April 25 2012 03:14 Mementoss wrote:
Tryimg-Not to tunnel who we lynch early in the day. All options/cases should be expressed fully/responded to (or to note, a lack of response) before ultimately decided the lynch target. I personally am a fan of people putting there reads out first half of the day along with votes, so we can see a hard solid stance of where everyone stands/have lots of time to discuss and consolidate the best option for killing a scum looking ma facka.

We should still be lynching BM