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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 00:33 GMT
#939
On April 24 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
lynch BM


fixed that for you
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 01:24 GMT
#951
On April 24 2012 10:21 Zephirdd wrote:
Let me just place a palm in my face in the hopes that you realize how much of a bad logic that was.

the more you tell me what to think about your vote and how you did nothing wrong (with and even without pressure about it) the scummier you look.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 01:30 GMT
#953
On April 24 2012 10:27 gonzaw wrote:
Whatever, Sentinel should be lynched first though.
If Zephirdd were to be town (he's my weakest scum read from the Daniel/Sentinel/Zephirdd combo), then scum will have a field day lynching him tomorrow.

So no, Sentinel goes down tomorrow, so people go back and reread my case.

Just in case you guys missed them, these are all my posts from tonight (the important ones):

The Risen conundrum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=44#876
Case against Sentinel: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#925
Thoughts on other players: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#935
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#937
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=47#940

So we don't punish ninja voters? fuck this shit. lynch fucking BM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 01:30 GMT
#954
sorry for swearing, it wasn't at anyone in particular
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 01:59 GMT
#967
can i vote scum now?

##vote Bill Murray... and you should too
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 02:03 GMT
#969
On April 24 2012 11:01 johnnywup wrote:
There hasn't been a day post yet ;_;

lol i know
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 03:22 GMT
#985
mods peacin on the thread is probably a result of a bunch of us being d-bags to one another.. we should really stop that
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 03:34 GMT
#989
On April 24 2012 12:26 gonzaw wrote:
Ehmm, I don't want anybody to be a dbag to anybody, I just want people to post thoughts and shit before they are (potentially) killed.

But okay, if it goes against the spirit of the game then I guess it's fine (but to be honest it gets kind of boring >_> ).

Will Day 2 end 48 hours from the Day post, or 48 hours from when the Day post should have been posted? (as in, will it end 44 hours from now or more than 48?)

i was referring to all the swearing and name calling (mostly in day 1)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 03:35 GMT
#990
and igrok take your time we are already not worthy of the awesomeness that is you as a host
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 03:42 GMT
#996
##vote Bill Murray....


and you should too
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 12:17 GMT
#1055
Ottox lynch is fine for tommorrow today we should lynch confirmed scum in bm
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 12:35 GMT
#1064
He ninja voted the most well known scum hunter in the game... To me that's like saying hi I'm
Scum lynch me... And he hasn't said anything of value if you think he has you are reading something I'm not
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#1070
On April 24 2012 21:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 21:35 Mattchew wrote:
He ninja voted the most well known scum hunter in the game... To me that's like saying hi I'm
Scum lynch me... And he hasn't said anything of value if you think he has you are reading something I'm not


I asked more than one question.

I posted my reads on Everyone... Zeph has gotten worse since the flip big time. But ottox is trying to play the "I'm a newb and can't make a case" card... This screams scum to me louder than zeph trying to tell us what to think about his ve vote and trying to deflect the backlash of ve flipping blue. Sent is non existent but not as scummy as bm or Ottox or zeph
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 14:19 GMT
#1076
Oh right... Forgot about st Daniel... Yeah we need to lynch him too if a vig doesn't get to shooting
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 15:27 GMT
#1084
Lurkers: Janaan, St Daniel, Broodking Exe, Bill Murray, Sentinel

Scum-reads - Zeph, Ottox (will probably post more about this later today or tomorrow)

Also, Risen has not improved in a way that allows me to use meta anymore to defend him. He did adamantly try and protect he best townie (and a blue) from lynch however. I can't see a reason for scum doing this, but then again that might be EXACTLY why he did it. idk, but he is probably the scummiest after the other 6.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 15:46 GMT
#1086
On April 25 2012 00:42 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 00:27 Mattchew wrote:
Lurkers: Janaan, St Daniel, Broodking Exe, Bill Murray, Sentinel

Scum-reads - Zeph, Ottox (will probably post more about this later today or tomorrow)

Also, Risen has not improved in a way that allows me to use meta anymore to defend him. He did adamantly try and protect he best townie (and a blue) from lynch however. I can't see a reason for scum doing this, but then again that might be EXACTLY why he did it. idk, but he is probably the scummiest after the other 6.


Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 22:21 Ottoxlol wrote:
I believe that there is at least one scum on that list, I read them all. I couldn't come up with a case that's strong.

Bm contributed zero, it is really hard to analyse someone with zero posts.
Marvellosity been attacked d1 with a very weak case, I did not find anything suspicious there
layabout he was on my d1 list because I felt his opinion switches were a bit suspicious but d2 he's been posting some very good things, i think he's town
Sentinel wasn't too involved in the debates, the case against him is semi decent, but if we punish someone because he did not got involved it should be the one with the least contribution
Zephridd's defense is that he was afk too.

We have 3 players who did some afking Sent BM Zeph from the VE crowd, Sentinel and Zeph tried contributing so I would vote rather BM then those other 2. He's getting votes and called out why don't he post and he's still just lurking around. BM please get into the game and show us you are town, or else I feel you'll get lynched.


How's the first post any better then the second?

Its not, I am not basing my read on you on your reads or 1 post in particular, I am basing it off of how you have posted.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 17:53 GMT
#1118
ghost you feel like your coaching ottox more then pressuring him. am i wrong in feeling this way?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#1121
ottox can you link me to your 2 posts (cases) about VE before and after his claim. Thanks
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#1125
@Ghost
I am trying to decipher if he is ignorant (town) or arrogant (scum) with his read on VE. He originally posted this on VE's stance on Gonzaw's plan

First:
Almost every point he makes is only working if JK's cooperate, I don't see how did you miss that (point 6). He clearly states that JKs should work with the claims and then you try to confute his plan with this.

Second:

VE you havent responded to why did you tried to argue the plan away with the JK stuff

Third:
I still find it amazing that VE missed the point about JKs and still not responding directly why wouldn't the JKs not follow the plan.


Then he posted this as his case
On April 22 2012 06:46 Ottoxlol wrote:
Yeah sure.

VE
+ Show Spoiler +

marvellosity said: One thing I didn't like about the whole gonzaw - VE exchange was VE's pretty bad breakdown of gonzaw's plan. It seemed to amount to this - if JK doesn't agree with the plan, then the plan is bad. But... the whole idea of the plan was that everyone agreed to it, so the JK was obviously on board, it was a terrible criticism. Looking further into VE's filter, I didn't see any further substantial objection, and he went forward to accusing gonzaw for his 'scumslip', which was at best minor, and can generally be read as unimportant.

I asked him 3 times about this and no response.

+ Show Spoiler +
ANYONE PUSHING A MASS-VIG-CLAIM IS DOING SO ALONGSIDE CLAIMED SCUM

After failing to comprehend the plan, he tried this shouting-tunneling on gonzaw, i found it rather amusing. His posts are also very non-constructive.

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyway, my vote on gonzaw stands - especially now that he thinks I'm scum because I disagree with a mass-claim plan. Unbelievable.

He's playing 1v1 with gonzaw, doesnt care about anyone else.



The funny thing is, once VE claimed JK, it should have been like an epiphany to ottox, because his case hinged on VE not understanding that the JK's will play ball, but VE was the JK. Instead he continues to push him using this logic

On April 22 2012 15:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
VE, why did u claim? + Show Spoiler +
I was going to die N1 anyway - this way we don't waste today wondering if I'm town or not.
What makes you think scum would kill you n1? Esp if you have the 2nd-3rd most votes first day.
If you are indeed town and JK, you shouldn't have claimed.

This is super bad logic IMO but a TON of people made this mistake of saying "he didn't play a role like I would, he must be scum" so this doesn't really have an alignment

On April 22 2012 16:36 Ottoxlol wrote:
He has 5 votes right now against marv's 6.

Is he a good player?

He argued we shouldn't give any info to the scum then claim he's a JK.

If he did not claim and we lynch marv or anyone, then scum wouldnt kill him because he had votes.

This contradiction is enough for me to vote VE, everyone saying he is a good player, if he is indeed town JK he shouldn't have played this way. So I trust you guys on that he is good also that means he is a scum.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

This is a forced contradiction IMO. and he speculates on scum kills. he also does the previous "not playing role like i thought he would, he must be scum" again.

This equals newb scum to me. His recent posting hasn't really said anything so its pointless to look into other then from a multi-post view that he is posting to appear active but not really saying anything
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#1128
On April 25 2012 03:14 Mementoss wrote:
Tryimg-Not to tunnel who we lynch early in the day. All options/cases should be expressed fully/responded to (or to note, a lack of response) before ultimately decided the lynch target. I personally am a fan of people putting there reads out first half of the day along with votes, so we can see a hard solid stance of where everyone stands/have lots of time to discuss and consolidate the best option for killing a scum looking ma facka.

We should still be lynching BM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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