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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:18 GMT
#737
On April 23 2012 08:18 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
Gonna ask again, why is giving up a valid town defence?


It's not but does disagreeing to directing blues, a day 1 blue claim, and ragequitting, give you enough confidence that he is scum, to go about lynching our possible JK, when there are other scummy suspects?

Also BJ, I don't think the marv is gunna happen at this point TBH. The fact that he took his vote off VE, his main competition for getting lynched makes me think he is indeed looking out for the towns interests. (unless you think VE and marv is scum which I doubt)

SO LETS VOTE BM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:34 GMT
#750
On April 23 2012 08:27 johnnywup wrote:
Yeah I'll just go ahead and vote

##vote BillMurray

noted
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:36 GMT
#754
On April 23 2012 08:34 Risen wrote:
I am master and commander of the jub jubs. Onto BM we go! Choo choo!

Yo BM I'll get off you if you make a post explaining yourself. Oh wait, you signed up for mafia and decided not to play... I wish VE hadn't claimed. none of this would have happened. Then again, ve was being stupid and it's probably correct that the only thing that can save him is his claim.

yeah you've totally lead this charge
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:37 GMT
#757
On April 23 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote:
Mattchew what are your thoughts other than BM:

aka, VE Risen Marv.

I believe VE
Risen is aggressive and thats his town meta
Marv is being tunneled and yelled at by BJ a lot. I think he's been pretty town since his not great start so I wouldn't want to lynch him.

I would like to lynch or have vigs shoot BM and St. Daniel
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:40 GMT
#764
On April 23 2012 08:36 MidnightGladius wrote:


johnny stills seems like scum to me, and his above voteswitch to BM doesn't help in the slightest

I agree with this... but not your stance on BM. BM's scum meta is strictly this and he doesnt care about the game. He ninja voted which is him basically claiming scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:44 GMT
#769
On April 23 2012 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew, you too - what do we do about an inactive VE tomorrow?

If's and buts candys and nuts.. we will judge the situation as it comes. I would really hope that if VE was not lynched he would start participating.

I'll put it this way, if you re-read VE's argument with Gonzaw thinking he is the JK, it makes perfect sense. He didn't lie and he gave his opinion straight. Also, scum VE would probably be way more defensive
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:47 GMT
#773
On April 23 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
This is frustrating to me. So we're going to lynch BM just because he's a lurker, and we're gonna save a rage-quitting VE just because he claimed blue? Does town genuinely believes this to be the best play?

If you don't believe VE's claim (idk why you wouldn't given the timing) then vote for him because that means you think he is scum. I believe his claim and his ragequit.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:50 GMT
#777
On April 23 2012 08:48 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
This is frustrating to me. So we're going to lynch BM just because he's a lurker, and we're gonna save a rage-quitting VE just because he claimed blue? Does town genuinely believes this to be the best play?


Now for instance, were VE really JK, this would make marvellosity look incredibly and extremely bad. Why? because fuck yes.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On April 23 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
This is frustrating to me. So we're going to lynch BM just because he's a lurker, and we're gonna save a rage-quitting VE just because he claimed blue? Does town genuinely believes this to be the best play?

If you don't believe VE's claim (idk why you wouldn't given the timing) then vote for him because that means you think he is scum. I believe his claim and his ragequit.


Waiwaiwiaitiaw WAIT.

How the fuck is his timing for his claim okay? What was he achieving with his claim? The plan wasn't following through, and that's his reason for claiming.

Enlighten me how did his claim make any sense.

enlighten me how it makes ANY sense as scum. and it explains the suspicions held by others of his earlier posts
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:50 GMT
#778
On April 23 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
As I don't really have time to trawl the thread and read the filters right now:

could anybody quickly tell me whether at the time of VE's claim it looked like he was under serious pressure of a lynch?

he was in the top 2 (might have been leading) and the bandwagon was getting stronger and stronger with him not posting
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:54 GMT
#785
w.e zeph your dumb

and there was less pressure than i thought on VE, making him even more townie in my eyes
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:58 GMT
#790
WHY WOULD SCUM FAKE CLAIM NOT DUE TO PRESSURE
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 22 2012 23:59 GMT
#792
how many games am i gonna be in where people are all liek "OMG I WOULDNT PLAY THAT WAY HE MUST BE SCUM SCUM SCUM"
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 00:18 GMT
#807
On April 23 2012 09:16 Zephirdd wrote:
Okay, whoever thinks what he did was reasonable should also rethink a little.

I"m not taking blame for that either; it was VE's own play that did that. His claim made no sense and he did us the favor of not posting the freaking case against him.

I'm all into a marv. lynch for the next day given how bad he wanted VE dead. I mean seriously, his latest posts were like a dog drooling at a piece of meat.

I can see you never re-read VE's filter in this post

lol you either super bad town or super bad scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 00:29 GMT
#812
On April 23 2012 09:27 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2012 22:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 21:15 layabout wrote:
First off.
##unvote marvellosity

BH's case was good when you consider how early on it was posted. The case was centred around the idea that marvellosity was actively lurking (at the beginning of the game. Marvellosity is no longer actively lurking
I think that marvellosity has tried to be more open and has reacted to BH's increasingly ridiculous pressure in a very town like way.


This BM wagon doesn't appear to have any grounding. It is a mindless vote on a lurker, the sort that usually hits town and is easy for scum to hop onto. If you are on that wagon please consider that there are definitely town lurkers and if you pick one at random you are likely to pick town. If somebody else picks a lurker and you support them then there is not only the chance that they will pick town by chance but the chance that they are scum and they are deliberately picking tow.

Thirdly,
The only reason to not vote for VisceraEyes is the following:

You believe that he is telling the truth about his claim.

If you believe that then you also have to believe that VisceraEyes would make that appalling move as the real town Jailkeeper.


My vote on BM is not random. It's based on the fact that he was semi-active leading up to the game started and he's made 3 in-game posts, all of which are devoid of content and completely neutral...yet he jumps on a VE vote based on nothing but "he doesn't like gonzaw's plan!"

My claim isn't "an appalling move" or "a bad move"...it's not a move at all. It's a claim, because it explains my reasoning for gonzaw's mass-claim idea, and because I don't give a shit about my role. Roles aren't going to find scum, scumhunting and logic are going to find scum.

I think Bill Murray is scum, I don't think he's a "random lurker" and I've made that abundantly clear.

The scum are Bill Murray, gonzaw, MidnightGladius, layabout as far as I can see. I want to kill BM first.

Viscera's last scumread^^

VE did screw himself on this. He wanted to get himself lynched.

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
K this game is no longer interesting to me. I'm not interested in defending myself.

##Unvote: Bill Murray
##Vote: VisceraEyes

For anyone concerned about me "playing to my win-condition", D1 discussion is ruined and I can accept my part in that. Lynch me, flip me, and do what you will with the information. You'll win with it. And therefor, I'll win. I'm playing to my win-condition.

gg



so how do you feel about these 4 BM gonzaw midnightglad and layabout?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 01:11 GMT
#815
im going to sleep. I'm not a big fan of posting a lot during the night anyway. i'll check in occasionally tommorrow
shooting BM or st. daniel would be fantastic
BM why do you join these games?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 10:51 GMT
#831
Really nice of you to show up bm lol I hope you actually do something (but it might be too late). Seeing that you just got here, Everybody thinks your confirmed scum. Needless to say i think so as well. any lynch targets or information that might be helpful to.. idk.. anyone?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 22:21 GMT
#858
If anyone is convinced by the shit BM is posting you are dumb. I'll be back in a hour
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#904
posting reads before deadline... have to shit real bad so brb in like 20

[image loading]
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 00:14 GMT
#924
On April 24 2012 09:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
posting reads before deadline... have to shit real bad so brb in like 20

[image loading]


Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end.

i should have said that i only colored it for you all so that was done in haste. he is a very very light green as you can see because of meta. My read on him will evolve deeper as the game continues. also some people aren't colored exactly as i would like them to be but w.e idc
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 24 2012 00:27 GMT
#934
wasnt the post supposed to be like 26 min ago?
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