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On April 13 2012 09:50 MrZentor wrote: This is my first time playing a PM game. I'm kind of scared of communication that I can't see.(Besides the mafia QT) you can see the mafia QT? | ||
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On April 13 2012 10:01 grush57 wrote: ##vote: GMarshal Only an idiot would reveal that, unless you're using crazy japanese kungfu reverse psychology, which is unlikely. yo what does this mean? why are you voting GMarshal? Just curious. + Show Spoiler + also does your name have anything to do with galley rushing in AoE | ||
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On April 13 2012 17:00 Ace wrote: Bill Murray level of posting going on here You including your own posts in that? | ||
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for now I sleep. Most of the discussion in the thread so far has been useless so I'm probably going to be staying active in PMs rather than here ala PYP:I. | ||
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##vote sandroba | ||
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On April 14 2012 06:17 Coagulation wrote: WBG someone ignoring you doesnt make them scum.. If anything it makes you annoying. shut up scum. You just want excuses for ignoring me | ||
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vote me if you think that's a good idea. ##unvote sandroba ##vote wherebugsgo | ||
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##unvote wherebugsgo ##vote Ace | ||
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the hunt begins Agent wherebugsgo was awakened by an ancient stirring in his mind. Something was amiss. Was it just stupid stationmates again? Or was it actually something serious this time? Quickly, he grabbed his sidearm and snuck into the hall adjacent to his room. One by one, he passed through hall after hall, heartbeat quickening, steadily shuffling, eyes straining. The station was dark; barely anything stirred but the sounds of the ventilation and the low whirring of the combobulating gyrators. His practiced footsteps unfailing, wherebugsgo crept silently ahead, drawn toward the strange presence. Drawn ever and ever closer, he knew he would satiate his curiosity if he drew on every ounce of his concentration. He needed to solve this mystery, lest they get him before he got them. The fate of the crew, hell, the world, rested upon the eradication of this alien threat. Suddenly, wherebugsgo's thoughts were interrupted, cut short by a drunk member of the station walking through the adjacent hall, loudly exclaiming to himself that he thought his sleeping roommate was an alien. wherebugsgo shook his head as he waited. Was it only in his head? Was the presence real? As suddenly as the presence had come, it went. The search must continue, he thought. "I'm getting closer." Eventually, wherebugsgo came across an empty room, door ajar. The lights didn't work. Searching through the dark, wherebugsgo came upon a shattered console and a worn logbook. Someone, or something had been here before him. It was then that he felt a wetness at his legs. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Whipping around, wherebugsgo saw it was merely the station's homely dog. "God damn it layabout you worthless mongrel," he hissed, punting the canine toward the door. "Stop acting like an alien!" The dog whimpered and left, scampering down the hallway into the darkness. It was then that the real terror arose. The banging sounds were incessant. "Sounds like we got some motherfucking alien snakes on this motherfucking space plane," he thought to himself as he fingered his laser pistol and closed the door. The display of the broken console flickered and sputtered, sparking intermittently. Suddenly, wherebugsgo felt the presence in the room, and as quickly as they began, the sounds ceased. "The energy is strong with this one," he thought, hairs standing on end, breathing rapidly. He then felt a touch on his shoulder. Turning around, the lights flicked on, blinding him. "It is I. Your voice of reason." Ace had stepped into the room. With the light it was clear that there had been a different sort of presence not very long ago. The screen of the dead console was splattered with green goo, previously obscured by the darkness. The room had clearly been ravaged. Before he could say anything, the banging began once more. Ace and wherebugsgo both knew at that instant that there was only one solution: go out with guns blazing.+ Show Spoiler + hand ![[image loading]](http://underthebutton.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/intruder_alert_home.jpg) | ||
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The Disappearance Agent wherebugsgo awoke groggily to the steady ticking and humming of the ventilator next to his sleeping quarter. Seeing his laser pistol lying where it had been before the events of the previous evening, he began to wonder; had it been a dream? A few silent seconds passed as he gathered his thoughts. "Pretty goddamn fucking good dream that was," wherebugsgo said aloud, slowly rising from the warmth of the cot. He walked over to the small console on the wall and read that the station time was 21:06. He had missed the general meeting by over two hours. Indeed, he had been asleep for well over 15 hours. Luckily for him, however, the video log of the meeting had already been uploaded and buffered. Wherebugsgo proceeded to unhook the console off the wall and bring it in with him to the small water closet in the far corner of the room. Closing the door and sitting down, he breathed a groan of relief. "Ahh, it's good to multitask." The console flickered and then began playing the log. On the small screen wherebugsgo could see station researchers sitting and standing around the table in the general conference room, some of them sniffling, others scared, and mostly all apprehensive. Votes were being handled in a small, dirty box filled with small slips of paper. One of the men came forward and grabbed the box, tipping it over and dumping all of the slips onto the table. He counted the votes, making small piles in different areas of the tablespace. Eventually, he stopped and stood up. "GMarshal is our new captain. Please come forth." wherebugsgo sniffed the air around him and flushed. "Ahh yeah, that's the stuff." When he looked down at the screen again, though, he noticed a peculiarity; GMarshal was not actually at the meeting! This was indeed an odd circumstance. Why would the captain-elect himself not be present? It was like a king being absent for his own coronation. A second, weary station researcher came up to the first and whispered a few words into the man's ear. He then handed him a slip of paper and withdrew once more into the shadows. The man read the note with a somewhat perplexed look on his face and then cleared his throat. "It appears that Captain GMarshal is ill and is currently not present. He has retired to his quarters. He wrote a note, however, that he wished be read if he were to be elected captain. The note retains instructions for what we are to do." The man cleared his throat once more before continuing with the note. He read aloud: "I thank you all for electing me captain and I regret to inform you that I do not feel well. I have, however, determined that froggynoddy is a xenoform and must immediately be exterminated by expulsion through airlock five. It is the only way to ensure that we rid the station of this menace. Thank you again." wherebugsgo set the console on the floor as he washed and dried his hands. He could feel a bitter taste in the back of his throat, as if he knew something was amiss. By the time he picked up the glowing screen again, the subjects within had shifted positions. Everyone was now looking toward a small and frail figure toward the center of the room, flanked by two of the station's largest men. "He's not but a boy!" thought wherebugsgo, clenching his jaw. Could this alien menace truly be within a figure of such outward innocence? Doubts stirred within the agent's mind. He continued watching as the boy was dragged from the room, an entourage of station researchers following behind. As the doors closed and the last of the men exited the room, the video log ended. It was at this point that wherebugsgo realized the station time was 22:52. The meeting had lasted almost two hours; and two hours previously, froggynoddy had died. The agent donned a leather jacket and stepped into the hall, a sinking realization setting into the pit of his stomach. If froggynoddy had truly been an alien, surely there would be revelers in the halls, and certainly the mood of the station would be of jumping jubilance, rather than one of silent sorrow. The halls were desolate in all directions, cementing his realizations in the solid reality of truth. He walked down toward the east wing, in the direction of GMarshal's quarters. Upon reaching the correct door, he stopped and squinted through the dark. The sensors activated and small letters began to glow in reaction to the presence of the agent's body heat. The sign displayed "Captain GMarshal," the titular change readily apparent. The crack below the door was dark. "Son of a bitch isn't here, if you were looking for him," said a voice behind the agent. wherebugsgo turned around to meet face to face with chaoser. "I had arranged a meeting with GMarshal hours before the vote results were announced. He said we'd be able to discuss things. Of course, it's clear that will never happen now. I don't trust anything anymore." chaoser continued, dryly. "No one else wanted froggy to die, yet he goes and disappears right when we're in need of discussion the most. How do we move on from this? We've come nowhere closer to eliminating those alien bastards. How do we know who we can trust and who we can't?" wherebugsgo ground his teeth slowly, grappling with emotion. He knew he had to use reason and that every event could be rationalized. He just had to piece everything together. "We don't," wherebugsgo said finally, breathing slowly. "One day you think you can call a guy your buddy. The next day, he might be gone for good. It's like a second side to someone you never see unless you force the truth to come out yourself. It's what has to be done." The two men stood for a few minutes, with both the spoken and unspoken words delving deeper into their minds. "I need a cigarette." wherebugsgo turned and left the corridor, wandering in the vague direction of his quarters. | ||
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On April 15 2012 15:27 Sinensis wrote: wherebugsgo I just want to you know I refuse to read anything written in 3rd person. agent wherebugsgo ran into an odd smelling creature by the name of sinensis on the journey back to his quarters. "Oh, it's you, the brainless one," the agent snarled. "I'm somewhat surprised you have the brain power to walk on two legs." sinensis merely stared forward stupidly, unreactive, drool forming at the corners of his mouth. "Get lost, scum." hissed wherebugsgo, pushing aside the empty shell of a human. As he did so, a sticky residue was left behind on his palms. It was then that he realized that he had discovered a menace for himself. have been told to edit | ||
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##vote mrzentor also VE is a bastard for not having skype at work | ||
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On April 17 2012 07:41 Kurumi wrote: I was debating to either call You out or Node. Why so lurky? wherebugsgo comes up to Kurumi, chest thrust outward. "Come join me in the video conferencing room, 08:00 station time, you ravishing Polish hottie." Kurumi winks at the agent, flashing her curves as she walks away, anticipating the fireworks that would commence that night. | ||
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as wherebugsgo walked toward his quarters, grinning to himself at the possibility of a wild night, he was stopped by a curious VisceraEyes. "I have been pondering the unponderable today, agent wherebugsgo. Let's suppose we live in an alternate universe where everything I say in hypotheticals is actually reality. In this universe, one of GM and sandroba must be scum. Which one would it be?" agent wherebugsgo opened his mouth, then closed it, then screwed up his face in a look of disbelief and absolute confusion. He had half a mind to say "why is this clown asking me such a fucking retarded question?" but he chose to grit his teeth and answer the fool. "In that world if I had to answer, I would answer with the name of the captain. He has certainly been more absent than the latter, though both the captain and his Brazilian mate have been intertwined from the beginning." | ||
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On April 17 2012 13:26 talismania wrote: I solved the first |10f nugget. He claimed to talk to GM, wbg, and acrofales. He received a PM from kurumi but did not respond. Here is an important piece of information for the thread, from acrofales' chat with |10f (posted pg 33): WBG, do you have that conversation? Finally, consider the night kills. I think this mafia team is playing a much simpler game than I initially imagined. Layabout was killed because he was all over |10f. Acrofales was probably killed for the same reason, especially since we can assume that Ace was telling the truth about |10f himself doing the hit on acrofales. For all we know, |10f might have been calling all the shots for them. The fact that Ace flipped green should make most crazy scum conspiracy theories die. The only super-crazy one left is that GM is scum and station technician just happens to be a scum role (or third party). he lied, there was only this: on TL? Yes, once.. or twice. I don't really remember. l10f on skype.. maybe elteneff, not sure. Original Message From wherebugsgo: have you played mafia before? just curious. If you have skype, let's talk there, yeah? I added him on skype and he was never there to talk. | ||
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"Jackal58 is an impostor and must be eliminated! When asked what he was doing he was unable to answer and resorted to guttural sounds that only aliens could make. We must eliminate the threat immediately by shoving him out of airlock six. It's the only one big enough." "sounds like we'll need a lot of help for this one," thought wherebugsgo. He punched in a line to sandroba and sent in his vote through the system, as protocol determined. He would be there to drag the beast into the void of space itself. ##unvote ##vote Jackal58 | ||
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I saw I had a few messages when I came home last night but I was too tired to do anything so I went to sleep. Sorry about that! I'll be out of class and on skype soon (2-3 hours) for anyone who is interested in talking then. | ||
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On April 19 2012 04:44 chaoser wrote: and holy fuck WBG has more posts than me now...that makes me sad Agent wherebugsgo ran into chaoser in the hall. "I see...you've been promoted, Colonel Wherebugsgo. Well...congratulations, I suppose." wherebugsgo smirked. "Aren't you forgetting something, Lieutenant?" chaoser scowled. "Congratulations...sir." | ||
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On April 19 2012 10:57 chaoser wrote: ##vote sinani206 @VE, I think strongandbig, node, and michaelthe are the final mafia agent wherebugsgo put on his sunglasses. "let's fucking do this," he said, nodding in agreement. ##vote sinani206 "However, node is probably human, since he claims to have shot the coagulating beast. If no other comes forward, he is certainly cleared. In addition, I have no idea who michaelthe is, but I will be perusing through the logs to determine whether or not he could potentially be an alien." | ||
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[2:50:35 PM] Sandro: risk and gm know the stuff [2:50:44 PM] Sandro: we cant all die tonight [2:50:52 PM] wherebugsgo: right [2:51:09 PM] wherebugsgo: and who should we be killing [2:51:10 PM] wherebugsgo: tomorrow? [2:51:36 PM] Sandro: prob into sinani coag rayzor ET [2:51:40 PM] wherebugsgo: k [2:51:56 PM] Sandro: oh [2:51:59 PM] Sandro: and s&b | ||
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On April 20 2012 08:41 syllogism wrote: I'll be off soon and provide more direction tomorrow, but I'm interested in hearing who everyone considers the best target out of the people wbg named (s&b, ET, sinani, prplhz, rayzor). Let's get rid of sinani first, hopefully that drops mafia to 2. At that point we basically just lynch through the list. It's like what, 21v3 right now? We're extraordinarily ahead. | ||
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I'm willing to consolidate on ET or snb instead of sinani if need be. Also I'm probably not going to be around much, as I'm studying for finals and this game is pretty much playing itself. If anyone needs something from me just PM me. | ||
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As I've said plenty of times, we're so far ahead that we can lynch whoever we want for the next 6+ days and even if they're all town we can still win. | ||
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Take it up with the myriad of lurkers if you have a problem. | ||
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If that's real this is fucking retarded. | ||
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I'm never gonna be able to sleep again | ||
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On April 21 2012 12:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: MVP - Ace for being the only person not retarded enough to care who is "confirmed" Wish Alien's would have made more use of their powers. One use of the Psychic would have confirmed how clues and night PMs work allowing them to twist their way into it, faking PMs to indicate other people of being aliens and also likely learning the role/item holds of another player for later stealing. I was too vague about a lot of things and I don't think people quite understood that just because someone had or used the syringe didn't confirm them to be town. In a scenario where the aliens stole a rifle and used it at night to replace one of their base KP, they could then claim the shot later in the thread, potentially have that confirmed, and then spend the rest of the game defending on the platform that they used a town KP and are therefore town. None of this happen. Nothing I had in mind happened, actually. why would we use powers if we had to sacrifice KP for it?!?!?!!?!? I don't feel like arguing about this, but honestly if you were in my position you would've easily got fucked in the ass much harder than we did. e: not to mention psychic died n1, iirc | ||
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"oh we just randomly picked the guy who was only known to be a DT to four people, scum totally haven't infiltrated your circle, here's your item back" | ||
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or items, for that matter | ||
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There were four/five people who knew the things sandro did. I knew most of them, albeit some things were hidden to me on n1. On n1 I knew who the tech was (who we couldn't really do anything about because he had a bodyguard) and basically what he could do, what sandro knew, who they suspected, who was likely a vig shot (I knew it was going to be l10f), who was a DT (erandorr) and who was likely to be a vig (it had to be among chaoser/risk from my n1 estimate and I was right) and who was a hatter with a bomb on a townie (acro) and who was a hatter with a bomb that could be placed anywhere (BC) We knew SO MUCH on n1 and we could literally do nothing to stop any of it. All we could do was steal from Erandorr and hope he aimed at our GF. | ||
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On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG. I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod. you told me my estimates were wrong when my estimates were actually LOW from the spreadsheet alone you can see there were 15-16 items when my estimate was 14. So yes, you are a liar and I am saying that with confidence. | ||
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On April 21 2012 13:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I never authorized or talked to risk.nuke about getting any KP beyond the day shot he got when he was upgraded. The fact that GMarshal hit 2 vig's in a row with his technician is pretty lucky and allowing PMs was a huge mistake because I guess I could have predicted somebody like sandroba coming along and getting all the information and just telling technician what to do it's not lucky, he knew they were vigis. So did we. | ||
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On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG. I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod. I'm not pretending shit, and the fact that you have to resort to saying my play wasn't perfect is just insulting. Of course I could've played better, but if I needed to play perfectly to win then it's clear the setup was broken. Anyway discussing this more is just going to get us all to rage more so I'm out. I'm never again playing a pm game, I just don't believe they can be balanced. | ||
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Now words are just being put in my mouth. | ||
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On April 21 2012 17:28 Node wrote: Holy fuck, will you guys please stop shitting on DrH for giving valid constructive criticisms of your play? You are taking this way too personally, and instead of actually having a discussion (which could be useful for all people who played, observed, or will later read this game) when you disagree you're getting offended and having heated arguments. Kindly stop. I can accept that I was heated and I possibly went over the line. However you must be able to see that calling sandroba "the worst player in the game" is no way constructive and in no way is it even remotely true. Calling him the worst player when there were clearly dozens of players who did next to nothing this game and were essentially carried to victory is an insult both to sandro and to other players on this forum. And dozens is not by any means an exaggeration. | ||
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In order to use an item we had to sacrifice KP, which would've outted us because there would be missing KP that we could not account for. In addition, using a DT item to "confirm" ourselves would essentially be shooting ourselves in the foot because we would be either confirming townies as greens in the same way or bussing our own buddies. e: and if we lied about the results then we would be found out eventually, probably within a cycle or two. Simple knowledge of something doesn't translate into actually being able to do something about it. If you don't have the necessary means to deal with something it doesn't matter what you know. That was proved by me having knowledge of almost all the town roles yet being powerless to stop the consolidation. And by powerless I'm not kidding. Even if we double stacked sandro n1 and then used our RB+steal, we would've killed no one else on n1 and then we would've still lost l10f (since sandro had already consolidated the vig during that cycle) and then the townies sandro trusted would already have reliable info to hit 2-3 more scum. They were already onto snb and jackal and once jackal was dead coag was dead as well. That left me and ET, and ET wasn't hidden terribly well and I couldn't hide forever. I chose the "kill as many townies as possible n1" route which worked slightly differently, but obviously it would lead to the same result. Jackal+snb+l10f (and coag by extension of jackal) were already dead by cycle 1. That's 4 out of 6 scum. What are we to do at that point? EDIT: And think about it this way: imagine if Ace had complied with the town circle and put his tracker item on erandor. At that point it would've outted me and snb as scum instantly. That would've essentially meant the entire scumteam minus ET would be dead by n2 and ET wouldn't survive much longer than that. Imagine that we had chosen to go with a plan I had considered before, to use both the RB AND the steal on erandor (sacrificing a KP in order to do so.) That would've essentially meant all 6 of us would be dead by n2. | ||
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On April 21 2012 18:01 syllogism wrote: Sandroba was the best player in the game and it is insulting to even suggest otherwise, DrH By the way, Coag/Jackal/l10f/S&B didn't get caught based on game mechanics, but were all heavily suspected as early as day 1 yup, this is 100% true. All four of those players were caught in cycle 1. You snowball that hard and fast and no scumteam will be able to stop that. | ||
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On April 22 2012 01:50 Acrofales wrote: Okay, I got pissed off before reading page 64. I agree with chaoser too. One other thing. I received pms from quite a few people who complained about not knowing what the hell was going on (after i pm'd them). I can really imagine this game sucking badly if you weren't pm'ing actively. That was rhe advice I gave those people. I would like to tank the scumbag bugs for telling me how om games worked, o I would've been equally lost. Apparently I figured it ou quickly enough to get shot N1 ;( Also, how did scum know about the bomb on grush? I don't have my skype logs here, bu I don't remember givng Sandro that info. I gave it to zentor for sure (part of the reason I told marvel to be suspicious o zentor if I died). you got shot because you were a hatter and I knew your bomb was going to a townie, not because your reads were particularly scary. In fact I don't even know what your reads were lol e: herp I think I might've misremembered. It was definitely a role-related reason (possibly because I thought you were vig or DT) | ||
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On April 22 2012 02:20 Acrofales wrote: Bah, I hate you. Cant remember, did I actually tell you? I remember I was quite unsure and trying to get some advice, but thought I only told zentor who I actually put it on. I'm sure I never told you I had a bomb. I only told zentor (in a pretty strange exchange),sandro and i think gm in my copypaste of the chat with zentor. I took care not to tell people unless there qas a reason to... I do recall I had knowledge of it from somewhere. I just don't remember where. It could be that I'm just remembering incorrectly and that I got logs AFTER I killed you. But, definitely I called the shot for a role-related reason. | ||
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On April 22 2012 02:30 kitaman27 wrote: If I recall correctly, bugs knew the name of the role which jackal failed to fake claim :p yes that is correct lol I put it in the scum QT too | ||
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On April 22 2012 03:31 talismania wrote: it ended up helping you bugs because when jackal fake claimed exoskeleton I figured that no one close to the information was leaking. I was super confused when you got shot and flipped that jackal had fucked that up - I think I even posted to that effect. it did end up helping me, somewhat, but I was doomed to a DT check and I knew that from the beginning. Nothing in game would've confirmed me outside of a DT check. In addition since scum in a game of this size are essentially "worth" 4 townies each, when someone on the scumteam dies so easily like that it's a massive loss. Essentially if you're not able to "kill" four townies before you die, you've been a negative impact on the team. EDIT: from a purely number-centric basis | ||
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