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"My fellow shipmates The time has come for us to take the righteous stand against those who would tear us apart and kill us. In a time like this, trust and compassion is hard to come by. We must stand together, or we risk losing everything we hold dear. I cannot promise that there will not be sacrifices. The road to victory is paved with hardships, and some of us will die so that the rest of us can live. However, each day, one by one, we will slowly claw our way to survival. For, surely, this is now about survival. We fight, or we die. On each day, we will have the ability to eliminate one potential threat to our well-being. On the first day, this decision will rest in the hands of the captain. However, I feel strongly that the captain should not be alone in the responsibility of making this decision. Every man, woman, and child aboard this ship should have the ability to have their voices heard and to help sway the captain towards deciding who we eventually are forced to remove from amongst us. Additionally, there are bound to be some secrets regarding the goings-on aboard this ship locked within the Captain's Cabin itself. Whoever is elected the Captain must agree to share any perks and benefits, including the old geezer's bottle of scotch, with the rest of the crew, regardless of what it is. However, I would also like to provide a little bit of advice, a word of warning so to speak... I know a lot of us, me included, would not mind being the Captain of this vessel and attempt to guide us all safely back home. But we must be very careful to not dwell too much on the Captain and his role. I have heard tales that in a land far away, one being was chosen by a motley crew of humans similar to us to embrace the role of The Wheatley, but the abilities and mechanics of The Wheatley tore the town apart and distracted them from the matter at hand of hunting scum. I have said all that I feel needed to be said. I will be in my cabin if you all need me. Stand strong, for the worst is yet to come, but through the worst of times, remember that the night is darkest just before the dawn." | ||
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 Theres been a lot of good discussion going on with regards to transparency or secrecy for the captain... I think that whoever gets elected captain will be the one who has to make that call, really. I agree with what people have said that the captain needs to be able to make an executive decision if he thinks that none of the candidates that town votes for are scum, and there is another target whom he thinks is likely to be scum. While I agree that the captain should call his lynch in order to give people a chance to defend/wrap up their matters, I can also see scum exploiting that with fakeclaims etc... As I said before, I wouldn't mind being captain if you all think I'm trustworthy enough, but I have a history of making bad reads (pushed for a ton of bad mislynches in my first game, had the completely wrong reads in Arkham City too) and in retrospect it would probably be better if I were not captain. The person I'll vote for captain needs to be someone who generally has good reads, is someone I have a reasonably good town read on, and is also willing to listen to peoples opinions and think/post rationally with little spam and clear sensible points. So far all the people who are running have satisfied only one or two of these criteria... Except, that is, for GMarshal... GMarshal, in order to gain my vote you have to answer the following questions: - Who would you vote for if you had the same criteria as me? - Why would you lynch VayeshMoru instead of any of the 10 other people who haven't really contributed anything yet?? | ||
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On April 14 2012 04:54 marvellosity wrote: You need to work on your campaign speech, my friend I realized that even if I could vote for myself, I wouldn't vote for myself based on my past play, so I bowed out, lol | ||
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##vote: GMarshal Something's nagging me a bit... I really don't see how we can go to a night phase without a lynch but just a captain... Is this actually Day 0 with a full Night 0 happening before our first lynch?? When does the captain's lynch go through? Does he get to control the lynch the next day after a full night of actions, or does the lynch happen before the night happens?? | ||
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Did you actually read my posts??? :S My first post was me running for captain, I felt there wasn't that much flavor in there, a lot of it was my stance on key matters, as well as ideas regarding transparency, etc. My second post was me changing my mind since I realized that if I had to make an executive decision i'd most likely be wrong in my reads and it'd be better for town to have a better player in the role. If you actually read the parts that you label, it contains me outlining characteristics that would make a good mayor and why I think GMarshal was a good choice for captaincy... If you want to come up with someone to FoS at least put in the effort to read the posts fully. Don't just try to pick someone and come up with a random cause... That's something scum would do | ||
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1: Decide who gets lynched by a vote, 2: Share hidden powers if captain gets any, 3: Dont get distracted by mechanics of how captain works and lets focus on hunting scum | ||
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Talismania: The reason I asked you if you would like to be captain was because you were (and still are) my best town read... I would like you to contribute more focused opinions on who you'd want to lynch and why instead of broad spectrums though... Also: FoS Jackal58: Get back in here and give us updated reads or something... Your entire contribution to the thread has been soft-opposing GMarshal because he was voting for sandroba, randomly proclaiming you lean town on Node, and then a lot of really weak town reads... What do you think of Zentor? Entering PM land, feel free to PM me if you want anything | ||
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Ohai Jackal, you're here... Can you catch up on the thread and let me know who your best scum read is please? Thanks | ||
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My best scum read right now is risk.nuke based completely on the thread... Disregarding activity since he said he'd be busy till Tuesday, and I haven't had a chance to PM with him yet (sent, waiting for reply, if anybody has any information on him/conversation with him, either post it here or PM me a log) In terms of his thread behavior, his case against Zentor was very flimsy, and he became confrontational when asked to come up with actual reasoning to support it... He's been very confrontational to a couple of people throughout the game (Kurumi, Zentor, Erandorr), without following up against any of them with a meaningful case... Its a weak read, but its one of the very few I've got. This thread is dead, and i'm not enjoying my first and probably last PM game, lol... Can we focus a bit more of the discussion in the public eye as opposed to in PMs?? | ||
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##vote: MrZentor | ||
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Leaving vote on Zentor, will change if others gain steam... | ||
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##Unvote: MrZentor ##Vote: Jackal58 | ||
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I don't think prplhz is scum... I think his lack of posting in the thread is the only reasoning behind the wagon forming... At least, from what I've read, he's been active in PM land with people, unlike a few of the other lurkers (Sinensis, Sinani, Node). Also, I second the feeling that scum wouldn't have a player who's so blatantly not posting... Scum are more likely to be actively lurking as opposed to the completely passive play that prp is doing. On another note, Node, if you read this, post moar! Also, risk.nuke, I get that you're town now, but please still do reply to my PM that had a few questions for you that I sent yesterday... Thnx!!!  | ||
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On April 18 2012 00:38 talismania wrote: Ok. There are five people in this game who are scum. There are twenty who aren't. Here are the players from which I believe the scum team comes: MrZentor - A few reasons to think this as have been posted. One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him. Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances? Three is that he basically revealed that he knew about acrofales' bombs. I haven't heard any replies from the people I PM'd about this yet so I'll just go ahead and post it. This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town. Sinani206 Read Sinani's filter. Compare it to l10f's. Sinani does nothing day one but comment on the captaincy. It's all superficial game-content posts from him. There is no attempt at real scumhunting. There is no attempt at any protown plan. He hasn't responded to PMs. Yet he's still in the game, posting and making votes. His vote just now for ET reeks. Jackal58 He's on here almost by process of elimination and my own gut feeling to be perfectly honest. Here are his comments in PM land when asked what he thinks of sinani, node, and zentor: Could be confirmation bias, but my eyebrows arched a bit when he asks me that fish-y question on sandroba. Here's the rest of the conversation: + Show Spoiler + I have never been right about Sinani. I don't expect to start being right about him today. He reminds me of Kenpachi. And Node I agree. I've only seen him disappear like this when he's been scum. You're right about Sandroba. I don't know why everybody claimed to him,and I still haven't ruled out that he may have used a vig to bus his teammate. Original Message From talismania: All three are near the scummy end of my list. sinani and node both only commented reactively to the captaincy discussion and have done little in the way of accusation or protown planning/ideas. At least sinani appears to still be playing the game. Sandroba is town or we're all royally fucked. You think there's something going on with him? coagulation Like, Jackal, this case isn't that strong. There's not much to go on here, but again it's almost process of elimination. He goes after ace fairly strongly, as maverick pointed out. That doesn't necessarily make him scum - many people had suspicions of ace at the time, myself included. His vote on prp does not sit right with me. Not necessarily because of who it was made on, but how it was made. Maybe I'm tunneling, but it was almost like "oh whew, people are interested in a townie lynch let me hop on that real quick". VayeshMoru Oh Vayesh. I really have no clue what your alignment is. You're on this list because you're voting Node right now, and Jackal is fingering him as well. That's weak, I admit. But you also have cast some suspicion on marvellosity, who gives me town vibe, as well as me. You were the only person and maybe are the only person in the game to ever publicly state a suspicion on me. I think it was something like "he's only trying to play for himself" or something when I had just made a post about making sure that everyone shared as much information as possible. ________ On the bubble: Node Node has the same MO as sinani day one - except he actually did put some pressure on someone (strongandbig). And he's also disappeared since then, whereas sinani has at least attempted to keep playing. He's mainly out here because Jackal is raising suspicions of him, and I think scum right now are fishing for viable lynch alternatives to themselves ________ Outside possibilities: Prplhz, erandorr. I wouldn't mind seeing these players flipped but I'm guessing they would come back town and would rather we go for one of ones higher up. Give this man a medal. Sinani/Zentor would be good lynches. Lets get Sinani out of here. ##vote: Sinani206 | ||
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- Wants to be captain - Doesn't want to be captain - Says that he has reason to believe that Chaoser is the most innocent person in the thread. - Wants to lynch Chaoser. (wtf moment here) - Doesn't want to lynch Chaoser anymore. Wants to lynch Prplhz - Doesn't want to lynch Prplhz anymore. Wants to lynch Kurumi. Doesn't actually vote for Kurumi. However, there are definitely more than a few reasons for me wanting to lynch Sinani over you. You've said a few things that I want clarifications on, and I'll quote them below: - You say stuff that implies that you havent recieved many PMs: On April 15 2012 04:59 MrZentor wrote: I really hope you guys are right about PM land being active, because this thread is DEAD. :/ but later on say stuff that implies you're 'in the loop' On April 19 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote: The funny part is that I was trying to get somebody whom I know has a dt check to check Coag, because I thought he was scummy. I wanted him to check Coag on the first night. -.- Which one of these is actually the truth?? Also, if you really knew someone who had a DT check, who did they end up checking, why, and what was the result on it? This could be an IDEAL situation if you are town, where you can protect the actual DT and act as a mouth for their checks without putting them in danger... Why would you not expand on this further and share the information you gain with the rest of the town?? Later on, you go on to say that Kurumi would be a good DT check... If you know a DT, why not get them to check it instead of having ANOTHER DT waste their check on it??? None of this DT talk by you made any sense to me, and it would be much appreciated if you could explain wtf you were thinking when you posted that... Thanks! | ||
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As an aside, I will never play PM games again... Based on the stuff in the thread, Zentor is my scummiest read. But because of some stuff that everyone seems to know about except for me, that happened in PM land, my read is irrelevant because people are just treating him as confirmed town... Frustrating!!! | ||
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Nobody wants to lynch my best scum reads... I wish I had a gun ##unvote Sinani206 ##vote EchelonTee | ||
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Yayyyyyy!!!!! | ||
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On April 22 2012 02:56 chaoser wrote: wait, can we just rehost this game, take out the PMs, redo the item distribution and roles and then play it again? cause i'd be ok with that. is anyone else ok with that? THIS!!! Oh so much this!!! Thanks a lot for hosting DrH, I loved the games format, everything was exceptionally well done!! Even with PMs, the game was great. Without PMs, it would've been awesomely awesome!!! | ||
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