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RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 17 2012 22:56 GMT
#903
Switching votes due to Jackal's lying incident being revealed and a Zentor lynch becoming growingly more unlikely

##Unvote: MrZentor
##Vote: Jackal58
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#904
VE, I'd rather see Zentor or Node lynched than Jackal, but with the people switching to Jackal it seems unlikely that either of those will happen...

I don't think prplhz is scum... I think his lack of posting in the thread is the only reasoning behind the wagon forming... At least, from what I've read, he's been active in PM land with people, unlike a few of the other lurkers (Sinensis, Sinani, Node). Also, I second the feeling that scum wouldn't have a player who's so blatantly not posting... Scum are more likely to be actively lurking as opposed to the completely passive play that prp is doing.

On another note, Node, if you read this, post moar! Also, risk.nuke, I get that you're town now, but please still do reply to my PM that had a few questions for you that I sent yesterday... Thnx!!!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 18 2012 02:32 GMT
#926
I used my guess too
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#1071
Sorry, been busy over the past day... Catching up now, will be around for the next few hours analyzing and deciding who to vote for. Feel free to PM me if you want.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 01:08 GMT
#1073
On April 18 2012 00:38 talismania wrote:
Ok. There are five people in this game who are scum. There are twenty who aren't.

Here are the players from which I believe the scum team comes:

MrZentor - A few reasons to think this as have been posted.

One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him.

Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances?

Three is that he basically revealed that he knew about acrofales' bombs. I haven't heard any replies from the people I PM'd about this yet so I'll just go ahead and post it.

Show nested quote +
People seem to be confused by Acrofale's bomb.

He could target a person at night with it, and if Acro died, the person died too.

He could choose to move it to somebody else the next night or keep it on the same person.

R.I.P Acrofales


This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town.

Sinani206

Read Sinani's filter. Compare it to l10f's.

Sinani does nothing day one but comment on the captaincy. It's all superficial game-content posts from him. There is no attempt at real scumhunting. There is no attempt at any protown plan. He hasn't responded to PMs. Yet he's still in the game, posting and making votes. His vote just now for ET reeks.

Jackal58

He's on here almost by process of elimination and my own gut feeling to be perfectly honest. Here are his comments in PM land when asked what he thinks of sinani, node, and zentor:

Show nested quote +
Node is AWOL too much. Don't know if he's going strong in PM land or not.
Sinani drives me nuts but I think he's town.
Zentor strikes me as a noob trying to get lynched. Dunno what he is.

What do you make of them?
What do you make of Sandroba?

Original Message From talismania:
what do you make of node, sinani, and zentor?


Could be confirmation bias, but my eyebrows arched a bit when he asks me that fish-y question on sandroba. Here's the rest of the conversation:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have never been right about Sinani. I don't expect to start being right about him today. He reminds me of Kenpachi.
And Node I agree. I've only seen him disappear like this when he's been scum.
You're right about Sandroba. I don't know why everybody claimed to him,and I still haven't ruled out that he may have used a vig to bus his teammate.

Original Message From talismania:
All three are near the scummy end of my list. sinani and node both only commented reactively to the captaincy discussion and have done little in the way of accusation or protown planning/ideas. At least sinani appears to still be playing the game.

Sandroba is town or we're all royally fucked. You think there's something going on with him?


coagulation

Like, Jackal, this case isn't that strong. There's not much to go on here, but again it's almost process of elimination. He goes after ace fairly strongly, as maverick pointed out. That doesn't necessarily make him scum - many people had suspicions of ace at the time, myself included. His vote on prp does not sit right with me. Not necessarily because of who it was made on, but how it was made. Maybe I'm tunneling, but it was almost like "oh whew, people are interested in a townie lynch let me hop on that real quick".

VayeshMoru

Oh Vayesh. I really have no clue what your alignment is. You're on this list because you're voting Node right now, and Jackal is fingering him as well. That's weak, I admit. But you also have cast some suspicion on marvellosity, who gives me town vibe, as well as me. You were the only person and maybe are the only person in the game to ever publicly state a suspicion on me. I think it was something like "he's only trying to play for himself" or something when I had just made a post about making sure that everyone shared as much information as possible.

________

On the bubble:

Node

Node has the same MO as sinani day one - except he actually did put some pressure on someone (strongandbig). And he's also disappeared since then, whereas sinani has at least attempted to keep playing. He's mainly out here because Jackal is raising suspicions of him, and I think scum right now are fishing for viable lynch alternatives to themselves

________

Outside possibilities:

Prplhz, erandorr. I wouldn't mind seeing these players flipped but I'm guessing they would come back town and would rather we go for one of ones higher up.



Give this man a medal. Sinani/Zentor would be good lynches. Lets get Sinani out of here.

##vote: Sinani206
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 04:06 GMT
#1078
Zentor: My comment on tali's post had little to do with his case on you, it was more about his case on Jackal and Coag, and me agreeing with his reads in general. I had a scum read on you from before for just being wishywashy as all hell. Your game so far has gone as such in my notes

- Wants to be captain
- Doesn't want to be captain
- Says that he has reason to believe that Chaoser is the most innocent person in the thread.
- Wants to lynch Chaoser. (wtf moment here)
- Doesn't want to lynch Chaoser anymore. Wants to lynch Prplhz
- Doesn't want to lynch Prplhz anymore. Wants to lynch Kurumi. Doesn't actually vote for Kurumi.

However, there are definitely more than a few reasons for me wanting to lynch Sinani over you. You've said a few things that I want clarifications on, and I'll quote them below:
- You say stuff that implies that you havent recieved many PMs:
On April 15 2012 04:59 MrZentor wrote:
I really hope you guys are right about PM land being active, because this thread is DEAD. :/

but later on say stuff that implies you're 'in the loop'
On April 19 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote:

The funny part is that I was trying to get somebody whom I know has a dt check to check Coag, because I thought he was scummy.

I wanted him to check Coag on the first night. -.-

Which one of these is actually the truth?? Also, if you really knew someone who had a DT check, who did they end up checking, why, and what was the result on it? This could be an IDEAL situation if you are town, where you can protect the actual DT and act as a mouth for their checks without putting them in danger... Why would you not expand on this further and share the information you gain with the rest of the town?? Later on, you go on to say that Kurumi would be a good DT check... If you know a DT, why not get them to check it instead of having ANOTHER DT waste their check on it???

None of this DT talk by you made any sense to me, and it would be much appreciated if you could explain wtf you were thinking when you posted that... Thanks!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 16:02 GMT
#1086
Syllo: Agreed, which is why my vote isnt on Zentor, its on Sinani. I still want Zentor to explain what i asked though.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 20:30 GMT
#1124
I'd be fine with those lynches... I had a bit of a scum read on ET in the exchange we had early on where he FoS'ed me for no real reason... I'd still rather lynch Sinani because the people I have the strongest town reads on have been pushing to lynch him. I'm leaving my vote on Sinani for now, but will be back in a bit and change to whoever we decide to consolidate on.

As an aside, I will never play PM games again... Based on the stuff in the thread, Zentor is my scummiest read. But because of some stuff that everyone seems to know about except for me, that happened in PM land, my read is irrelevant because people are just treating him as confirmed town... Frustrating!!!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 20:34 GMT
#1126
Lol... Somehow missed the last two pages before posting... Nice shot Node!!!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 21:14 GMT
#1134
@VisceraEyes: Nah, I had a town read on bugs but not a very confident one... I have a much better town read on Tali/Chaoser and they were both advocating a Sinani lynch, especially Chaoser.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 20 2012 23:49 GMT
#1152
Switching vote to EchelonTee and going to watch my Red Wings eliminated from the NHL playoffs (sigh)

Nobody wants to lynch my best scum reads... I wish I had a gun

##unvote Sinani206
##vote EchelonTee
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 21 2012 03:36 GMT
#1169
Ohai... I think this is the first mafia game where the team i'm on has actually won then :O

Yayyyyyy!!!!!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 21 2012 03:41 GMT
#1173
Yeah, I figured that the system got gamed pretty bad, but I still consider it a milestone for me, moreso because on my spreadsheet I actually had people who were scum read as scum for once... lol... I have however decided that PM games just aren't for me... All of my analysis was as a result of the thread, and i'm happy that I was able to get (mostly) correct reads... Except for my read on Zentor... lol
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 22 2012 00:22 GMT
#1309
On April 22 2012 02:56 chaoser wrote:
wait, can we just rehost this game, take out the PMs, redo the item distribution and roles and then play it again?

cause i'd be ok with that. is anyone else ok with that?


THIS!!! Oh so much this!!!

Thanks a lot for hosting DrH, I loved the games format, everything was exceptionally well done!!

Even with PMs, the game was great. Without PMs, it would've been awesomely awesome!!!
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