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On April 04 2012 20:42 Hassybaby wrote:


You can't shoot kenpachi! Who would we have to claim town in the first post?

On April 05 2012 04:53 Tunkeg wrote:


WTF I thought Blazinghand was WBGs smurf

On April 06 2012 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:

Jackal won't shoot himself, will he?
Especially not in the dick. If he were to hydra with wbg he'd maybe do that to perform some weird voodoo crap that harms both of them but I don't see that happening.

On April 06 2012 08:10 VisceraEyes wrote:


False. Go read PTP1 and then come back in here and say that again sir.

On April 06 2012 17:18 wherebugsgo wrote:


fixed

On April 07 2012 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:



Storm mafia you idiot

Man even my smurf is dumber than me

On April 08 2012 23:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Attention Town! Blazinghand is now officially too quiet for my liking! If he's not in here by halfway through the day, I move that he be our very first lurker lynch!

Who's with me?!

On April 09 2012 01:59 sputnik.theory wrote:


Every other person who posts is so quick to accuse people of frivolous shit. You say that I'm a lurker because my statements were 'fuck all shit'? What sort of deep and compelling analysis are you looking for in the first few pages of a mafia thread? What's important is for everyone to get a few words in and start to develop some actual relationships to analyze over the coming days?

On April 09 2012 01:59 sputnik.theory wrote:


Every other person who posts is so quick to accuse people of frivolous shit. You say that I'm a lurker because my statements were 'fuck all shit'? What sort of deep and compelling analysis are you looking for in the first few pages of a mafia thread? What's important is for everyone to get a few words in and start to develop some actual relationships to analyze over the coming days?

On April 10 2012 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:

I think Visc is town atm. I don't know what to make of Toad yet. I always want to kill BH and WBG so my opinion of them is very biased. I wouldn't cry is somebody shot either of them at night.

On April 10 2012 04:09 Tunkeg wrote:
I find it strange that he leans on 4F and ST. I think this kind of play is anti-town as it may trick the newguys into mistakes that are wrongfully interpid as scumtells. Yeah, get them to talk, but try a more diplomatic way first. Not pin them to the wall. The veterans should be pin to the wall, thats the only way to get them to speak up, but not the new ones, they should be cuddled

On April 10 2012 04:54 sputnik.theory wrote:
As a innocent player who's been targeted by others as 'scum' I have some misgivings about the judgement of several of the players in this game. They couldn't be more wrong with their analysis of my role and now several of them are jumping on the latest victim in the thread - Janaan.
Upon overview of his filter I find nothing heinously scummy. Janaan is a guy who's quick to accuse others and is trying to avoid getting killed on day1. I'm not convinced that this behavior indicates scum over town and I won't be voting for him to die tonight.

On April 10 2012 05:04 sputnik.theory wrote:
I have viewed this turn from a harm-management perspective from the start of the game. There isn't enough useful information to target scum in the game yet. No matter how much you wish there was.
I can accept the criticism of not being helpful (yet!) but your jump from bad player to scum player baffles me. There is no substance to your claims. I'm not scum because I want to avoid lynching townies and don't exaggerate the importance of trivial BS.

On April 10 2012 05:09 sputnik.theory wrote:
I may hang but you'll still be wrong.
From my perspective you're a idiot for demanding that I make a scumread. To me you're a player making a erroneous scumread. That is exactly what I want I've stated that I want to avoid on this day. Back up off me.

On April 10 2012 05:15 gonzaw wrote:
@BH: Even though he's scummy, sputnik won't be lynched today, there is not enough time and it will be utter chaos if we even try to switch the wagon to him. A vig could shoot him, or we can lynch him on D2, we will have plenty of time (more so if Janaan flips scum). So if you think Janaan is scum please vote him.

On April 10 2012 05:15 gonzaw wrote:Hey Blazinghand, I haven't seen that video of you eating your hat yet >_>

On April 10 2012 05:19 gonzaw wrote:


From Sum of all Fears remember?

On April 10 2012 05:22 sputnik.theory wrote:
My opinion is that voting for someone just to get a kill is just doing the mafia a favor and buffing their KP by 1. Also, I know that the judgement of some loudmouths in this thread sucks because I clearly know my own role and can see their 'analysis' for what it's worth. It's not like I'm saying we can win if we never lynch... just that today the odds are not in our favor to lynch scum and that a lot of this 'analysis' is rubbish.

On April 10 2012 05:27 Risen wrote:
Seriously sputnik you're an idiot. There was next to no chance of you being lynched today and now you're posting like an idiot. I'm voting for you when I get home, don't want to mess up formatting on my phone

On April 10 2012 10:42 Janaan wrote:
My final words in this thread. I won't be coming back after I flip green. Good luck town, I hope you're happy with how Day 1 went, cause I'm pretty sure the 6 scum players are. I hope you'll at least take my reads into consideration, and win the game. I know I didn't play well this game so I guess I deserve this. I think I'll go back to a mini game next, it was hard for me to keep track of everything that was going on. GG GL HF

On April 10 2012 10:48 wherebugsgo wrote:


We're at 15 votes. You consider him towny enough not to switch your vote?

Or are you scum and you'd like a no-lynch?

On April 10 2012 11:48 sputnik.theory wrote:
Great analysis everyone who voted for the vanilla townie to die keep up the great work!

On April 10 2012 12:20 sputnik.theory wrote:


you dummy talk less : (
I'm not scum and you keep accusing me for no reason other then the fact that I don't get along with dumb dumbs... oh well maybe I'll feel better about this game after sleeping

On April 10 2012 12:46 sputnik.theory wrote:
Rigth back at you.
Unless you think that your incorrect scumreads are worth more then my advice to not lynch the innocent Janaan...
going by your ability to exercise judgement so far I wouldn't be surprised if you did..

On April 10 2012 13:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
3c was a lurker, not an argumentative prick. There's a marked difference.

On April 10 2012 13:18 VisceraEyes wrote:


So where's your deal today sir? You haven't been in anyone's shit this game like you were in my shit in SoAF. Sup?

On April 10 2012 17:36 FourFace wrote:
The rest was like we need to avoid a NL, derp.

On April 10 2012 15:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
To anyone who is a vig: if you don't feel comfortable shooting, I advise that you don't. I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting. Vig and DT lists are usually just guidelines (though if you ignore them and shoot townies people will be mad)

On April 10 2012 18:25 FourFace wrote:


So you think wbg is town. Why?

On April 10 2012 18:28 FourFace wrote:
Of course there is. BH isn't town so newbies shouldn't follow his advice nor is he pro if he is town. Wtf is this
He can't be serious on wasting a DT check on someone who hasn't made a case against anyone. Furthermore there are modifiers which make it even more useless. Sput will be lynched in the near future no need to waste any night action on him.

On April 10 2012 18:25 Blazinghand wrote:

???? where do I say this

On April 10 2012 18:30 FourFace wrote:
THE ADVICE IS PURE SHIT !!! what don't you get?

On April 10 2012 18:32 FourFace wrote:
He is not qualified to supply any list .. is what I'm saying. Now stop one line spamming and explain to me why you think wbg is pro town and why we should give a rats ass about his list, and not find his attempts to coordinate and condescend blues laughable.

On April 10 2012 18:37 FourFace wrote:
You must be kidding me man.



Yes it's a bad advice, read my previous posts you ignorant spammer.
You claim that newbies should listen to advice from town on who their vag-sho candidates are. Well wbg is the only one who wants to publish his list so I figure you think he's pro town instead of scum which his voting habbit would suggest.

On April 10 2012 18:42 FourFace wrote:
I have quoted the same section, saying it's a bad advice because it's coming from wbg. I am misrepresenting you how? I'm saying that you're saying noobs should listen to wbg's list. I say they shouldn't, nobody should care what the 3 stooges have to say at this point.

On April 10 2012 15:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
To anyone who is a vig: if you don't feel comfortable shooting, I advise that you don't. I will try to come up with some names that I'd shoot after I wake up, but if you don't agree with any of those names you're better off not shooting. Vig and DT lists are usually just guidelines (though if you ignore them and shoot townies people will be mad)

On April 12 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually guys, I've got this. I've thought it through, and this is pretty much the only way.

I'm Undercover Investigator Charles Williamson. I got a Guilty back on Toad last night, hence the instantaneous vote.

This is why I called for medic protection.

This is why I've been whining about dying N1.

This is why I said I'd be the "atmosphere police" this game.

My sanity is in question obviously, but I feel like Toad is acting scummy as shit and I'm probably Sane.

Thread thinkers, votes off me. Votes on the claimed scum plz. Scum and knaves who are sheeping Toad because you don't want to read the thread, feel free to continue voting for me and prepare for ultimate disappointment. We'll start killing you in order of scumminess as soon as Toad is done.

GG scum.

On April 12 2012 04:18 Tunkeg wrote:


Hells YEAH. Probably the best player in this game agrees with me. Come on bitches (Mementoss, and marvellosity) nitpick on him as well, I dare you, you no good bastards! Thank god there is a sane voice in this crowd, because playing with the likes of those two make me want to tear my eyes out. Instead of focusing all you do is nitpick and post fluff. Telling people what not to do, instead of actually contributing. Thats it /end rant.

WBG made my day!

On April 12 2012 04:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Can i also get the one who accused Sputnik Theory first? id like to call him out

On April 12 2012 04:24 Blazinghand wrote:


That's me!

On April 12 2012 04:25 Kenpachi wrote:
you fool

On April 12 2012 04:26 FourFace wrote:


That would be me.. I'm open for questioning and will answer to the best of my ability without emotional interference.

On April 12 2012 04:27 Jitsu wrote:


What the actual fuck?

On April 12 2012 04:30 gonzaw wrote:

@BH: Contribute more please. What do you think about ST flipping? You focused all your energy on D1/N1 on him, why?
Why haven't you contributed and pressured people like you are used to?

On April 12 2012 04:34 ghost_403 wrote:


Quoted from this post.

I don't know if anyone has brought this up in the next couple of pages, but this is bullshit logic. If we believe that there is an equal chance of every flavor of DT being in the game, that would mean that 75% of the time, the DT is wrong. Why would the hosts include a role like that in the game?

I'm not arguing that VE is definitely sane, but to say that there is a 2 out of 3 chance he is wrong is false.

On April 12 2012 04:36 gonzaw wrote:
...create more chaos and disrupt the thread, and serve no constructive purpose. It fuels other people to be aggressive to you while you are aggressive to them in a non-specific manner. It doesn't add anything to the discussion, nor generates any type of scumhunting whatsoever.

On April 12 2012 04:36 gonzaw wrote:
You disappear since the middle of N1 mostly and don't reappear until now, and you do so to post some stuff about VE's claim (yet you don't comment on the previous things discussed about him), and you disrupt the thread with posts like these.

On April 12 2012 04:36 gonzaw wrote:
Are you, wbg, Toad and VE scum?
If at least 1 of you is town, I'll be very disappointed.

On April 12 2012 04:39 ghost_403 wrote:
@BH: I'm not arguing that, but arguing that there is a 2 out of 3 chance that his role is wrong. Assuming that he is, in fact, a DT, it's more likely that his check came back accurate.

On April 12 2012 04:41 FourFace wrote:
I do find people attempt to discredit VE's claim disturbing. I believe if there is a DT he is sane and BH and some other dudes who took into account that "75% of the time, the DT is wrong." are scummy.

On April 12 2012 04:43 Risen wrote:


Lol, wtf? Explain how you think his claim was a pro-town move. Please! I'm dying to hear this.

On April 12 2012 04:44 ghost_403 wrote:
@BH: You're assuming there is an equal probability of each flavor of DT being in the game. If that was true, GMarsh included a troll roll in this game. Most of the time, the DT is going to be wrong. That's just a terrible game setup.

It makes more sense for the game setup to favor a sane DT, but include the possibilities of the other flavors. Something like a 70-10-10-10 distribution would make much more sense, from a balance perspective.

On April 12 2012 04:52 gonzaw wrote:


Imagine VE didn't claim at all.
Tell me why you think he's scum then. Discuss the previous cases or thoughts, post thoughts of your own agreeing with those cases or creating original content.

On April 12 2012 04:52 gonzaw wrote:
Post your thoughts on Wbg and what other people said about him. Post your thoughts on other lurkers, like zelblade/Katina/Grack/Adam/etc.

On April 12 2012 06:21 FourFace wrote:
I really don't, if VE doesn't confirm or deny what I was saying about him and wbg. That's true

##Vote: FourFace

On April 12 2012 06:22 Tunkeg wrote:
This is how I see people stances on VE - if I am wrong, please correct me:
Blazinghand: VE is scum - fairly certain.

On April 12 2012 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote:


Actually Bugs, I forgot about the Paranoid/Naive mechanic. I was under the impression that one check is all it would take when I claimed. That's a herp on my part.

On April 12 2012 07:47 Kenpachi wrote:
its really simple. ET and Jitsu are some of the most sensible guys in the entire thread. DEFINITELY.
read their posts to explain why i believe VE is correct choice.

the rest of you are big fat nooblords who are as indecisive as VE himself.

On April 12 2012 07:49 FourFace wrote:
Maybe VE is vanilla town? Ever thought about that? He's trying to get himself killed by mafia so he can get as far from this pile of shit thread as possible

On April 12 2012 07:51 FourFace wrote:


I find that quite hilarious

On April 12 2012 07:54 EchelonTee wrote:
Kenpachi you make me LOL so hard lmao...

@Risen I'm trying to think this through. We're one lynch away from MYLO. Read this. Thoughts?

FF, Mementoss is not scummy, and who gives a fck about jdub right now. You're looking worse now, sadly.

On April 12 2012 07:56 FourFace wrote:
Scummy is as scummy does



I still think that a vanilla town could forget about the paranoid/naive modifier and lack scumbuddis to remind him of it.

On April 12 2012 07:58 johnnywup wrote:

This is literally the worst argument I've ever heard.

On April 12 2012 08:03 FourFace wrote:


By VT you mean veteran right. You know what I think about you being veterans? I'm going to take a shit on my scanner and send it to you mhhhkkay?

On April 12 2012 07:56 FourFace wrote:
I still think that a vanilla town could forget about the paranoid/naive modifier and lack scumbuddis to remind him of it.

On April 12 2012 07:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Right but a VT claiming DT is amazingly bad, and VE is not amazingly bad.

On April 12 2012 07:56 FourFace wrote:
vanilla town

On April 12 2012 07:58 Blazinghand wrote:
VT

On April 12 2012 08:36 prplhz wrote:
I would like people to discuss who else they would like to lynch. Toadesstern is obviously a popular choice and I'm not wholly opposed to that right now.

On April 12 2012 10:27 VisceraEyes wrote:


But I AM blue regardless of what you think. Your doubt does not change my Role PM.

On April 12 2012 11:08 Toadesstern wrote:

Remember how I said on d1 (or n1?) how GM is basicly trolling me in my pm when BH asked about Role-PM's because he thinks they are done indiviually for each person because according to him his role fit's something about him?

On April 12 2012 14:43 EchelonTee wrote:
1. push 1 read, S.T. for D1/N1 cycle
2. plop a vote on VE saying "lol obvious scum"

Wasn't BH once known for spamming threads and being aggressive and stuff? This is so strange from him.

On April 13 2012 06:07 Zealos wrote:

My point exactly. Can't wait to get a combo of scum kills.

On April 13 2012 06:10 Zealos wrote:

Wait, no I read this wrong. I agree that 4 is scummy, but we should lynch VE today.

On April 13 2012 06:20 EchelonTee wrote:
it's at 13 now. VE to be lynched.

@BH Polls aren't inherently scummy. Like this guy. He wasn't scum. You don't have a case on 4F lol... You really think 4F is 2nd scummiest guy in this game?

On April 13 2012 06:21 wherebugsgo wrote:


make that TEN lol I knew I was missing something

(emphasis is mine)

On April 13 2012 06:23 FourFace wrote:
BH any thoughts on my case against you? case against you

On April 13 2012 06:25 EchelonTee wrote:

Yet myself, sloosh, and DYH all read gumshoe as town despite him being "bad". I don't give a fcking rat's ass if that poll was bad, or if 4F's poll is bad; it doesn't make them scum. Believe it or not, newbie towns do stupid things. Either you never learn (in SOAF, pushing jdub and Nemesis early off of crap), or you're intentionally perpetrating bad logic. I think it's the latter.

On April 13 2012 06:37 EchelonTee wrote:
@BH regardless, I don't think your push on 4F this game is well deserved. You're getting clouded since he accused you; it happened to me too.

On April 13 2012 06:42 marvellosity wrote:


Yes, but the problem is that we can't establish if that's the case because town as a whole haven't been able to prod at players like that.

I'm leaning towards prhplz's explanation above more and more. Toad looks bad to me still, but argh.

Also, if we already have enough votes on VE, I'm still willing not to vote for him and take whatever flak might come my way if he flips scum. I just can't reconcile his play with being scum, and I don't care if you all scream at me for thinking that.

On April 13 2012 06:47 Blazinghand wrote:


Push a read then. If you're not willing to push VE to avoid a no-lynch, the manly course of action is to push your strongest scumread and vote him.

On April 13 2012 06:48 FourFace wrote:
BH has got the shittiest cred out of all players. He accused sput of being scum. He helped lynch a townie and he'd gladly have me lynched. That's -3 in my book and -2 in al of yours because you don't know that I'm townie.

Please support a BH lynch today. Thank you and Good Night.

On April 13 2012 06:49 marvellosity wrote:


I would vote VE before I allowed a no-lynch.

On April 13 2012 06:51 FourFace wrote:


Who is Jayjay and how do you know he shot him?

On April 13 2012 06:53 FourFace wrote:
How can you be so sure Jackal shot sput? He said he'd have no problem shooting you

On April 13 2012 06:55 FourFace wrote:


So .. mafia can have vig and how would you know how many town vigs we have.

On April 13 2012 06:57 marvellosity wrote:


I hate to agree with Fourface but he's right here. We can't know if there are other vigis.

On April 13 2012 06:59 Toadesstern wrote:


Totally speculation on m part, but I doubt ST shot himself. Just a guess, not sure though.

On April 13 2012 07:02 FourFace wrote:



ET can claim all he wants, that doesn't mean he's telling the truth. He could be scum Vigi for all we know

On April 13 2012 07:05 marvellosity wrote:


I don't get why scum would shoot michaelthe. ET's claim that he would shoot him and winding up dead points towards ET being clean imo.

On April 13 2012 07:04 FourFace wrote:


I have one on you. And you didn't for a second doubt that ET could be lying about his claim

On April 13 2012 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
Why won't Fourface answer the question?!

On April 13 2012 07:19 EchelonTee wrote:
if you guys dont have anything to say you don't have to spam.

unbelievable... more posts in D2 than D1. never seen that before.

On April 13 2012 07:42 Hassybaby wrote:


He claimed town aligned vig and shot a guy who looked scummy. Made sense in my books

On April 13 2012 07:46 FourFace wrote:
This is also pretty funny if he turnes out to be scum alligned vig




@Hassy .. funny that you come to the rescue. I repeat: If I had hit scum, then it would've incriminated Hassybaby to some extent, but now I am more confused. Genious defence .. so subtle it probably would've got you through the game as a confirmed townie .. subliminally infused by this statement of his.

On April 12 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
now, i completely believe VE's DT claim. HOWEVER, i do not fully believe Toad is scum. but i will keep the DT alive over the random guy who might be 20% scum.

On April 13 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Hi KP

On April 13 2012 08:47 marvellosity wrote:


Is it allowed to be highly suspicious of him even though this is apparently his "meta"?

On April 13 2012 08:49 marvellosity wrote:


Ah. Apparently people say he never says anything or if he does it's short and pointless, and he does this as both town and scum.

On April 13 2012 12:12 zelblade wrote:
You played so differently from soaf tht scum thought you were traitor lol

On April 13 2012 12:13 gonzaw wrote:
You weren't traitor BH?

*sigh*


Despite his wackiness, 4Face was pretty apparent town. You going after him was scummy as fuck, and so was Zealos when he FoSed him as well.

On April 13 2012 12:18 zelblade wrote:
Bh was going to be our d3 mislynch

On April 13 2012 12:24 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah, I would have pushed an Artanis lynched if people would oppose a BH one.
But damn BH, really, just look at your play and tell me you weren't the 6th scum.

Wait...what if he was really the traitor and he's trolling us right now until GMarshall posts the role list? >_>

On April 13 2012 12:27 zelblade wrote:


Well half the thread thought u were scum

And the other half thought you were null

On April 13 2012 12:32 zelblade wrote:
4face was pretty clearly green -.-

And he would be a free mislynch so who cares :D

On April 13 2012 12:55 MidnightGladius wrote:
I'd prefer to move on, as well.

On April 13 2012 15:20 gonzaw wrote:
Actually, I'll add some comments in the code so you guys know what the fuck is going on there.

On April 14 2012 06:20 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I want to see what happens with a VE, Toad, BlazingHand, WBG scum team that decides to shit up the thread. Would anyone still be reading by the end of night one? Feel free to throw in anyone else capable of posting non-stop. I was semi-following this thread until the Toad vs VE thing exploded, and then I gave up on it.

On April 14 2012 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote:


Have you ever seen "The Happening"?