Newbie Mini Mafia VI - Page 7

On April 02 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think Therapist is a more likely mafia than Kohbee, just about. We're running out of time and I don't really know what to do. This could just be a desperate ploy from a Kohbee mafia as he's about to die, or he could be telling the truth. Therapist has posted quite cleverly but much less. I'm open for anyone with some strong leadership because apparently that isn't me atm :/
##Vote: Therapist

On April 02 2012 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
EBWOP: I still think Therapist. is townie, but I think the chance he's mafia is a bit higher right now than Kohbee.

On April 02 2012 22:55 strongandbig wrote:
Kohbee I agree with you that if you are not scum, then the people who switched their votes off of you after your last-minute claim should be considered probably town. They could have just kept their votes on you and then claimed afk after your lynch.

However we need to remember that people who were not already voting for you aren't cleared. Switching a vote to you after a blue claim would be an obvious scum tell when the claim turns out to be true. It would be much safer just to let you live and roleblock or shoot you.

So where does that get us? If you are town, then four face would be clean. However he's the only one who actually switche off of you. Hiropro and marvellosity also helped save you, so I suppose hiropro is also town, since he could have kept his vote on solohan and allowed you to die. However, marvellosity had to take an action. Therefore he could not have said he was afk for your claim and lynch. Therefore, if you claimed, were lynched, and flipped blue, marvellosity would have been the obvious next target - not worth it for him if he's mafia, when they can just roleblock you. So, if you are town then the scum would be two out of me, marvellosity, omnom, solohan, and kb. Since it's not me, then we have a group of four out of whom 2 are mafia; however, you obviously have no reason to believe I'm town, so call it 2/5.

However! This whole analysis is only valid if you are town. You could also be scum - a distinct possibility in my opinion. Next post will have that analysis. Sorry if I get ninja'd, I'm typing this on an iPhone.

On April 03 2012 01:45 Kohbee wrote:
i want my question answered. and when going through filters to have quoted the post i am responding to makes it easier to read

On April 03 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:


Did I go too far down the wifom rabbit hole? My main point was to answer kohbee's claim that we could go from the vote on him to such a small list of potential scum, and that it's a bit more complicated than he made it out to be.

On April 03 2012 01:33 Solohan50 wrote:
A last minute vote-switch to the Therapist bandwagon would be the perfect place for scum to hide. It gives them all the credibility in the world, even if they have to miss out on the supposed "Cop". What better way to pretend you're not scum than to say "But I saved the Cop at the end?".

It makes even more sense if you think the roleclaim is false and that Kohbee is actually scum. If he is indeed scum, I'm willing to bet that his scum buddy switched vote at the last minute when he realized that the lynch vote was going to take Kohbee out first day. On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie.

On April 03 2012 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, can we move on to something a little more... productive?

On April 03 2012 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
Let's start poking people!

On April 03 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:


Did I go too far down the wifom rabbit hole? My main point was to answer kohbee's claim that we could go from the vote on him to such a small list of potential scum, and that it's a bit more complicated than he made it out to be.

On April 03 2012 01:33 Solohan50 wrote:
A last minute vote-switch to the Therapist bandwagon would be the perfect place for scum to hide. It gives them all the credibility in the world, even if they have to miss out on the supposed "Cop". What better way to pretend you're not scum than to say "But I saved the Cop at the end?".

It makes even more sense if you think the roleclaim is false and that Kohbee is actually scum. If he is indeed scum, I'm willing to bet that his scum buddy switched vote at the last minute when he realized that the lynch vote was going to take Kohbee out first day. On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie.

On April 03 2012 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, can we move on to something a little more... productive?

On April 03 2012 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
Let's start poking people!

On April 11 2012 14:51 omnomMuffins wrote:
The problem IMO of being obnoxiously aggressive is that it puts everyone on the complete defensive, and makes it hard to make reads off of cadence and sentence structure because of that. Again, I have no place to talk because the only read I had about town/mafia was KB and S&B. I couldn't pick mafia out of a candy bag if they were the only kit kat

There needs to be a balance of being aggressive, but not using obnoxious language that sets everyone on edge.

Sure, town can have problems from being too polite, but the level of aggression put forward on day 1 and until Kohbee was lynched by the two of them (and myself when I got pissy at them) was so high that it was daunting to even think about posting because of their language and so on.