EPTThis would mean that it is pretty much impossible for someone to have started the day at any of those spots, as 24 is in the lethal area, and the last spot of the queue, and 2 is one of the first ones, I am quite confident that no-one would get randomly scattered that far due to the stack mechanic.
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This would mean that it is pretty much impossible for someone to have started the day at any of those spots, as 24 is in the lethal area, and the last spot of the queue, and 2 is one of the first ones, I am quite confident that no-one would get randomly scattered that far due to the stack mechanic. | ||
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It is also possible that bluelightz is lying, and that the bomb could be at the queue position 13. | ||
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On April 05 2012 01:38 wherebugsgo wrote: Also I find no reason to be overly suspicious about the players who would rather push syllo than you, Cephiro. Unfortunately you both ended at very low positions, so unless you moved it would take a lot of pushes to achieve the goal. It's still quite a risky proposition to just trust you and expect no action from scum even if you turn out to be telling the truth. I'll think about it some more. Others seem to have similar concerns as well. What do you think of Wiggles? Care to clarify the bolded? We're in the dark, are you claiming to have some sort of knowledge about our whereabouts? And if you haven't noticed, the scum is already scared about whether they can stop me or not. And I can assure you, unless they still have some really strong hidden ability that is yet to be revealed, they won't be able to. As said, worst case scenario I die, flip and confirm syllo as scum for you. That's not very bad for a worst case scenario, is it? I'll check through Wiggles's filter again, but I am not particularly concerned that he would be scum right now. | ||
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On April 05 2012 01:43 wherebugsgo wrote: He could very well be lying about the selection being random too. This could explain why the "safe spots" aren't really safe at all. This is true, but it is modconfirmed that it is on one of the positions 2, 13 or 24. It is possible that 13 is unsafe, Blue is scum and is claiming it as safe, but at the moment I don't see that likely enough. If that's the case however, we should know by the day's end. | ||
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5. At the start of each day, every Toy will begin on the middle most queue of the non-lethal queues. However since only 2 toys can be in one spot I will randomly sprinkle you around the remaining queues to start off. I think that should answer your question? | ||
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It's just at the moment the reactions I see regarding my ability are more scared and hasty from the people I suspect to be scum, and more calm and curious-oriented from the players I believe to be town-aligned. For example, you are one of my strongest townreads, but I still consider it a possibility that you are scum. If that's the case however, then you've managed to mindfuck me well. | ||
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On April 05 2012 02:06 Nemesis wrote: I kind of want to test out Cephiro's ability, but there might just be too much risk especially since we don't know what is going to happen. I'd rather PoP people who we think is scum. Mainly, I am looking at pushing Tobon since with my ability it shouldn't take more than a few pushes to put him towards the fire. And PoP syllogism and maybe pulling bluelightz. Your push would be very much appriciated since it's double as strong, and that leaves only the hidden PoP of the scum as the only chance of ninjaing me without revealing themselves. (Or at least I can't think of any more PoP-related abilities that would be able to get me killed without revealing the user.) Remember that a push for me is a push for syllo.  I wouldn't try to push it this hard, but as I already revealed that I have a plan and some details of it, it is unlikely that I get another chance this good to use it. Unfortunately it's on a timer so we're starting to get in a hurry if we decide to go with it. | ||
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Acro: I don't really know what more you want to expect. I've already said many times the best case scenarios, why do you keep asking for more? You gain an item for town, a basically confirmed townie, and at least 1 scum kill. (Of course, in theory it is possible that I am syllogism's scumbuddy, but how likely is that? Me asking to be pushed near certain death and use my ability to bus my scumbuddy?) wbg: Wiggles has a relatively short filter, but what I can make of it, he doesn't show much actions that would make me lean scum on him. His play however has so far been very careful, and he hasn't taken an active stance of pressuring scum. So far he is null to me, but I expect him to start pressuring the people he suspects, as he will not get scum killed by quietly humming aside and agreeing, while asking for pieces of information. Has anyone noticed the lack of layabout by the way? | ||
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On April 05 2012 02:56 wherebugsgo wrote: There was a day roleblock on Palmar yesterday; what's to say that they can't use it again? Or the freeze power? As far as I know, they were both effects of the same ability. (The Nullify one). Due to the restrictions in my own power, and based on restrictions in certain abilities in the last game, I am fairly sure that nullify is limited enough that it won't be able to stop me. If I am wrong, I will die and you have confirmed syllo as scum. But we should be able to get the item before that for sure, and Palmar did not mention that nullify would prevent item usage, so I would still be able to use that in favour of town, even in the worst-case-scenario. | ||
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" if scum can stop you, they will stop you, so you might as well tell us all the effects of your plan (but leave out the details of how, if that will stop scum from interfering)." This is what you say. I have told everything I can which doesn't give the scum enough idea how to counter-measure my power. You keep asking me for everything, but then you keep pointing out to leaving out the details if it means that scum can't interfere. This is the point you constantly keep bringing up, you want to know DETAILS about my plan. I have told everything I will tell, deal with it. If there was a mason possibility, I'd gladly explain the full extent of my plan to certain people via PM, but unfortunately that's not possible. If your basis on not pushing me to the flames is that I could be scum with a superpower that extends the flames (that would still leave me there, wouldn't it?), then you're on thin ice. How about you start thinking rationally and don't do stuff because your scared of something that is extremely unlikely. How about you don't PoP at all today because someone could have an ability that kills you when touched? We could pull to kill syllogism, yes, and I would be fine with that too. My plan however is much more beneficial for the town regarding a similar amount of PoPs (unless syllo happens to be right at the bottom again, and I am really far from the flames). My scum reads are also not "Everyone who is against my plan = scum". If you paid more attention to my posts, you would know that I have provided fair analysis based on other stuff than opposing my plan, you're just outright lying here to make me look bad. You ask me to make cases on other people than syllo. And I have, but you choose to ignore them and claim there aren't any. That's just pathetic. As for my ability, I can kill any scum I want, but the amount depends on the circumstances. Happy? | ||
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On April 05 2012 03:11 Bill Murray wrote: I really feel like that is a slip my pull is on someone I know is either town or godfather, basically, if there even is one Are you fucking serious. You waste your PoPs based on wbg using a conditional phrase, and you pull someone that you think are town, when it could be used to kill someone you think is scum. Either you are fucking retarded... actually, that's a retarded move regardless if you are town or scum. Sorry for the insult but that's my honest opinion. | ||
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On April 05 2012 03:34 layabout wrote: Why on earth has Bluelightz received more PoP's than syllo? Might slightly have to do with my plan, as if hopefully we will go through with it, then it would be pointless to PoP syllo. Also, why on earth do you come back to the thread with such a post and not contributing more? Would you please confirm your claim of having no PoP by trying to push me in the thread? | ||
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On April 05 2012 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote: He chose to use his role. Also we need your opinion quickly. Please read up :p I'm currently in favor of pushing Cephiro and pulling Bluelightz/BM. Yeah but he claimed to have no PoP at all when I asked him about if he has no PoP due to using a power or such yesterday. And even if he did that yesterday, he should have PoP today then, unless he has a power that neglects his PoP for the whole game. You seem fairly sure that he is of no danger to town though, am I right if I say that you have a rolecheck on him or are you just speculating? | ||
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On April 05 2012 04:00 layabout wrote: Given what we know, we should kill syllo. Between syllo and ceph we have at least a 50/50 chance of hitting mafia, if risk is being truthful and there are no millers. Of the two cephiro appears to be town because of ________yawn________ Syllogism does not appear to be scumhunting, but has spent time and effort doing "other stuff" Yet i see a number of pulls have been used on Bluelightz, before i have even had a chance to read the thread. It looks like this is going to end up like yesterday... I am not roleclaiming so suck it. I am not asking you to roleclaim, but please prove that you do not have PoP by using a push on me. Otherwise everyone has a fairly good reason to be suspicious of you. Also, please check mine and wbg's arguments for my plan instead of using PoP on syllo. | ||
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On April 05 2012 04:23 layabout wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2012 04:10 wherebugsgo wrote: By talking for him, what are you doing? All we've proved is that he isn't reading the thread and thus is as good a kill as anyone else. In addition, you have nothing to lose by confirming that you have no PoP power by trying to pull Bluelightz and push syllo or Cephiro. Again, care to explain why we shouldn't pull blue when you said yesterday if he uses his power he should be killed? What if Bluelightz didn't read the "don't use that anti town power you nitwit" comments? He didn't post during the night after any of them. So it is possible that he believed that it was correct to use his power to confirm his ability. It wouldn't hurt to hear his explanation for his actions before we kill him. Saying that, there is no excuse for his actions. He I didn't talk for Bill Murray. Several people (like you) called him scum for pulling snarfs. But his posts suggest that he thought it would be sending snarfs to safety. Ecuse me for poitning out that some other people were hastily jumping to conclusions and spamming posts to _________* + Show Spoiler [*] + Drown out frankly embarassing scumslips,+ Show Spoiler + "If i were town...." So.... I'm still waiting for the command. Going to prove you got no PoP or not? You're raising in my suspicion list quite nicely at the moment. | ||
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On April 05 2012 04:33 layabout wrote: i am waiting on the mods to tell me if i can speaking of which i just noticed this in Kurumi's profile i feel like i have won an award I mean that if you type ##push Cephiro in the thread now, we should see whether you were honest or not in the next PoP-list update. If you can't do that, then it simply won't work. | ||
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On April 05 2012 06:07 Dirkzor wrote: I dont understand however how Cephiros ability can be on a timer?! Why not? If you check Palmars reverse-ability, it was on a timer as well. In fact, if my ability wasn't on a timer it would be overpowered as hell. I hope there are lots of you around to carry this plan to the end, but the lack of speech and the mod is worrying me. >.> | ||
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