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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 02:10 GMT
#1141
slOsh is right, the only thing redeeming you was that you clearly behaved as you did on purpose. You planned and executed your strategy so it wasn't like the claim was a defense. The problem was that it put town in a WIFOM situation where all the evidence pointed to you being scum. Either you were crazy-town-doc or crazy-scum. The fact that people bought your claim shows how you could have used that strategy succesfully as scum.

If you had breadcrumbed your role on day 1 then the situation could have been different. Breadcrumbing "I am going to do stupid shit for the whole day" is a great scum plan if you can get away with it.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
April 05 2012 02:25 GMT
#1142
On April 05 2012 09:49 gonzaw wrote:
First, well, I don't want to double or triple post just because my posts are big. It's the same thing if I have 1 big posts with 3 defined sections or 3 consecutive small posts; except the 1st one wastes less space.

Like I said, maybe I should put some headlines, like some people put Re: [stuff] and the like

Second, you are aware I was scum right? >_>
Yes I could have defended myself against VE concisely, but the more I dragged out the issue and the more I posted things just because the better

Haha, well you did your job effectively right?

On March 29 2012 06:06 slOosh wrote:
I gotta say, I'm leaning town on gonzaw. As I understand, the base of the arguments against him boil down to
1 - Advice not to claim nationality but not addressing CC
2 - Weird posting style
3 - Not scumhunting / sharing scum reads

1 - I feel like he has adequately defended the first point many times over.
2 - This ... is just his style. I don't like it either but that is personal preference, not an indication of alignment.
3 - People are picking on him for 1&2 so understandably most of his energies would be devoted to clearing his name.

And it played a part in why I defended you (unfortunately you were scum >.>)


But yea, I'd second Probulous' advice on shrinking post size (or at least making the sections clearcut). I did it once here here using the magic of line breaks [ hr ] and bold headers. Or, if you are inclined (/ available) to do so, you can bring up the points as they come instead of addressing everything at once.

I remember reading somewhere that people don't need to know all your thoughts - just the important ones. But I'm learning style as well, and its your unique thing, so just be mindful next time you play and I'm sure you'll find a style that's both comfortable and effective (and if you roll scum again just abuse meta and hope me and Prob won't policy lynch you :p)
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 02:30 GMT
#1143
I will

He has made it clear that he didn't want to be clear and concise because he was scum. So when we play again if he doesn't make an effort in this regard I will have to assume he is scum again.

One day there will be an Adam, Gonzaw, Sloosh, ET, Mattchew, Cephiro and Probulous team and it will be glorious. Until that day...

##Vote: Gonzaw

Fairwell buddy
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
April 05 2012 02:38 GMT
#1144
On March 30 2012 14:38 EchelonTee wrote:
they're not on deck to be lynched; i'm not in mood for a cluttered thread. we already have C3, Sinensis, and MrZ as potentials and the fact that i want to talk about them over gonzaw and bluelightz should clue you in to who i think is most scummy at this point.

AKA

i'm not going to post a list of reads, sloosh.


Haha, reading the game with knowledge of all roles is funny.

And really instructive - should've suspected gonzaw when he straight up cooperates with ET D3.


I've been toying with this idea of (should I have been alive or there was more time for discussion), just switching things up and suggesting a bluelightz lynch before Sinensis, to see if there would be resistance. Do you guys think that would have worked?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
April 05 2012 02:45 GMT
#1145
On April 05 2012 11:30 Probulous wrote:
One day there will be an Adam, Gonzaw, Sloosh, ET, Mattchew, Cephiro and Probulous team and it will be glorious. Until that day...

^^ new(ish) blood of TL Mafia! I'd add DYH there

I don't think I've ever played with you, Probulous.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 02:51 GMT
#1146
On April 05 2012 11:45 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 11:30 Probulous wrote:
One day there will be an Adam, Gonzaw, Sloosh, ET, Mattchew, Cephiro and Probulous team and it will be glorious. Until that day...

^^ new(ish) blood of TL Mafia! I'd add DYH there

I don't think I've ever played with you, Probulous.


Oh yeah how could I forget DYH. Sorry mate!

That is really weird, I feel like I know your play. I guess all that time in the Obs Qts helps. I think we all started playing around the same time (since Decemberish last year) and have been pretty active since then. Funny thing I have never been on the same team as any of these guys.

I guess Jitsu could get in on the action as well
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2012 02:52 GMT
#1147
On April 05 2012 11:30 Probulous wrote:
I will

He has made it clear that he didn't want to be clear and concise because he was scum. So when we play again if he doesn't make an effort in this regard I will have to assume he is scum again.

One day there will be an Adam, Gonzaw, Sloosh, ET, Mattchew, Cephiro and Probulous team and it will be glorious. Until that day...

##Vote: Gonzaw

Fairwell buddy


Oh don't worry, I will go against your throat as well if I see you are not being as helpful as you are when you are town

##Nuke: Probulous



But yes, that scum team will be glorious
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2012 02:54 GMT
#1148
On April 05 2012 11:38 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 14:38 EchelonTee wrote:
they're not on deck to be lynched; i'm not in mood for a cluttered thread. we already have C3, Sinensis, and MrZ as potentials and the fact that i want to talk about them over gonzaw and bluelightz should clue you in to who i think is most scummy at this point.

AKA

i'm not going to post a list of reads, sloosh.


Haha, reading the game with knowledge of all roles is funny.

And really instructive - should've suspected gonzaw when he straight up cooperates with ET D3.


I've been toying with this idea of (should I have been alive or there was more time for discussion), just switching things up and suggesting a bluelightz lynch before Sinensis, to see if there would be resistance. Do you guys think that would have worked?



Pfff I would have 100% supported a Blue lynch, I would have been glad to take him off our scum QT.

...


..lol jk you are awesome Blue don't worry
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
April 05 2012 02:55 GMT
#1149
Probulous would have to be the safest nuke kill in the world. He never rolls VT, so its going to be effective 100% of the time.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 02:56 GMT
#1150
I would just like to point out that I have only been town once and that was my first game, even then I was a DT. So metagaming me might not be the best way to play.

I think if I roll VT in my next game I am gonna play completely differently just to see how everyone reacts. Most people would love to have the crazy rolels in these games but I would dearly love a boring old VT role. I don't know how you do so well as scum. I can't stand it. I always feel like I should be doing something but have no idea what. It's really unsettling
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
April 05 2012 02:58 GMT
#1151
on the other end of the spectrum, I have never rolled a PR, or if I did they were useless in the game (godfather/framer with no DTs) T_T I want some guns to play with~
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2012 02:59 GMT
#1152
I dunno, I would love to have a crazy blue role so I can know things other townies don't know; and I can watch them all run helplessly around while I am the bearer of the truth/power! Mwahaha!


...I guess playing so much as scum has corrupted me a little bit >_>
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 03:01 GMT
#1153
Ok this thread has derailed nicely. Sorry Hessmyrr

When I eventually get my hosting wings, I was thinking of organising Retirement Mafia. Where all the roles are based on crazy old people in a home. You could have weakened roles to match the flavour. I really like games with lots of blues who are weak. Things like watcher/tracker; one shot medic; lurker-vig etc. Same for mafia, they could have a single KP with a singleshot roleblocker or blue-vig. I don't know, the full roles in these games seem a little overpowered when they succeed and useless when they don't.

Thoughts?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2012 03:03 GMT
#1154
I would LOOOOVEEEEE to be a day vig for instance

I can be all like

"I'm a day vig muthafockers; scum, you will FEAR me right now

Hey Probulous, tell me why I shouldn't just shoot you right now? Huh? Nothing to say?
##Shoot: Probulo...

Sorry, something got caught up on my trigger. But it won't happen again Prob, so I want some answers!"


:D
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#1155
@Probulous
No prob, this is very entertaining and informative.
Following the trend of thread derailment, why does everyone choose to call me 'Hessmyrr' with extra 's'? When Ace started to call me always as Hessmyrr I thought it was weird quirk of his, but now apparently everyone is calling me so.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 03:18 GMT
#1156
he he it is because you have two Rs and so my mind goes "he must have two Ss as well"
Serves you right for having a strange name

I really enjoyed obsing this game. I think when people actually join in after they die the Obs QT can provide some useful insights. Plus all the guys who played are baller to that helps!
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 03:28:51
April 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#1157
I only started playing like 3 months ago! Do I count as a noob

Also looking back on it I still don't understand what sinensis was saying D1 about nationality reads
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
April 05 2012 03:32 GMT
#1158
On April 05 2012 12:28 Blazinghand wrote:
I only started playing like 3 months ago! Do I count as a noob

Also looking back on it I still don't understand what sinensis was saying D1 about nationality reads


Don't lie, wherebugsgo, you've been here longer then 3 months.




(You started the same game I did, so that makes you new(ish) as well)
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 05 2012 03:34 GMT
#1159
Oh yeah that's right!

I remember reading your first game as well. You played a baller medic I think, or was it DT? That was the Student Mafia game where Adam started and Palmar was smurfing, right? Oh god and Jaybunbradefehebhsyeogns whatever his name is. Adam was Fos'd early day 1 and came back with possibly the best first post I have ever read. Shitting all over you guys for not realising the timezone difference. It was like instant town. Good times.

That feels like ages ago >_>

So funny seeing how many people have joined and now make up the core numbers of a lot of the games played. TL mafia really has grown quickly lately. Side-bar forever!
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2012 03:42 GMT
#1160
Yeah, and after LI I'll have 5 games just as you Prob!

lol I was kind of slow here, I played 1 game and then didn't join another one in like 2 months lol
I'm making up for it now though
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