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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
March 30 2012 03:58 GMT
#681
How either Zentor or me is an issue though until we have SOMETHING else from cccalf is bonkers to me. Did you guys even see that he just voted for C_C literally without saying another thing and that's 1/3rd of his posts?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 30 2012 04:55 GMT
#682
my read on zentor: he started off really helpful but got progressively less helpful. don't know if that entails scum, but don't think he should be a prime target atm unless someone can point out some explicitly scummy posts of his to me
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:13 GMT
#683
RE: Sinensis case
On March 30 2012 08:14 Nemesis wrote:
Also your play here is quite different:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321496&user=45996
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=45996

In those other games, you are generally more helpful. You were trying to promote discussion, and doing some scumhunting of yourself. But this time you are literally just bandwagoning with easy votes.


First of all, A Game of Thrones is still going on; don't use that at evidence, it's against the rules blah blah

I disagree that sinensis's play is "quite different" in normal mini mafia I. The only difference I see is that when people are now accusing sinensis, he doesn't fly into a relentless rage; that's the experience that sinensis has gained. If you look at his filter this game, he commented on a lot of different topics throughout the day and put a stance down. did he make big fat posts? nope. sinensis just works off a different diet, and it doesn't sound poisonoues to me.


Ex: there's a difference between there's these two posts:

On March 28 2012 11:51 Sinensis wrote:
Back from work.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 11:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I've been using a simple system to keep track of people, and I have the game solved. It's just a matter of waiting it out now.
+ Show Spoiler [gg] +
[image loading]


So you just alignment claimed soviet for the second time? You are also grouping people based on Nationality.

Only one class benefits from grouping based on Nationality, so indeed, gg Nazi.

##vote: Cyber_Cheese

says why he wants to vote and does it decisively.

On March 28 2012 23:18 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

I'm voting for reasons I explained very early in the thread.

references earlier, very intangible reasons. makes it look like he put forth a decent case on C_C when he never rly did.


both are short votes, but you have to read into tone. Sinensis has been decently forthright
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:17 GMT
#684
On March 30 2012 04:21 MrZentor wrote:
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On March 30 2012 02:28 slOosh wrote:
I would also like to bring up MrZentor as a lynch candidate.

gonzaw has brought up some decent stuff in his case here. But I found him suspicious for different things so I'll address that now.

The context is very important here. Please read the posts surrounding his instead of just the filter.
On March 27 2012 22:49 MrZentor wrote:
C_C looks a little suspicious because of his first post, but I feel that people are reading too far into that.

This is written on page 12, after VE posted his initial case on CC and much after CC posted his first post containing the "accusation" and the flag. Then comes a couple of pages of discussion on gonzaw, bluelightz, ET and such. Nothing but one post from Nemesis, who comments the "lack of stance" as suspicious. Watch MrZentor's next post:


On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
On March 27 2012 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
You two need to post your thoughts on my case against C_C in detail and give your thoughts on my other scum-read gonzaw.


I do agree that his initial accusation looks suspicious. The flag is really bizarre, because I couldn't imagine posting it as mafia or towns person. If I were mafia, why would I call attention to myself with a conspicuous flag? If I were a towns person, why would I give the mafia a hint at my nationality? Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts.



I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now.

There is nothing in the thread itself discussing the flag itself. There is no new public content in between his first post in which he says "people are reading too much into his initial post", and "his initial post looks suspicious". He agrees that the flag is really bizarre but did not mention it in his first post - taking a very neutral stance if you will. Then suddenly he agrees with VE that the flag is indeed bizarre, despite the fact that no one has talked about it. He also throws in the bogus last line, indicating that his subtle accusation is also evidence against him, despite the fact that "people are reading too much into his initial post".

Verdict: MrZentor initially took a neutral stance, and after observation of how the town reacted to the case decided to help push it along. The lack of public thread discussion and the sharp contrast in his stance against CC suggests that he has talked to other people about it (read. scum buddies).

Also his initial post suggesting town lynch lurkers after hitting a few scum is downright weird.


I thought one thing and posted another. :/ I meant to say that people were reading too far into the flag on his first post. It was bizarre, but it really didn't tell us anything about C_C, so it was best to ignore it. It is important to note C_C's underhanded accusation of VE. It seemed like a scummy action.

His actual read on CC?
On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I do agree that his initial accusation looks suspicious. The flag is really bizarre, because I couldn't imagine posting it as mafia or towns person. If I were mafia, why would I call attention to myself with a conspicuous flag? If I were a towns person, why would I give the mafia a hint at my nationality? Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts.


The thing that was just said to be only bizarre but something to be ignored, is actually the crux of his read on CC.
Inconsistencies are a huge scum tell and MrZentor have been caught in one.
Plus he is downright trolling gonzaw right now, and showing absolutely no effort in scumhunting.
Read his two other games (where he is town aligned) - much more content, much more purpose.

##Vote MrZentor

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:18 GMT
#685
On March 30 2012 14:13 EchelonTee wrote:
RE: Sinensis case
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 08:14 Nemesis wrote:
Also your play here is quite different:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321496&user=45996
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=45996

In those other games, you are generally more helpful. You were trying to promote discussion, and doing some scumhunting of yourself. But this time you are literally just bandwagoning with easy votes.


First of all, A Game of Thrones is still going on; don't use that at evidence, it's against the rules blah blah

I disagree that sinensis's play is "quite different" in normal mini mafia I. The only difference I see is that when people are now accusing sinensis, he doesn't fly into a relentless rage; that's the experience that sinensis has gained. If you look at his filter this game, he commented on a lot of different topics throughout the day and put a stance down. did he make big fat posts? nope. sinensis just works off a different diet, and it doesn't sound poisonoues to me.


Ex: there's a difference between there's these two posts:

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 11:51 Sinensis wrote:
Back from work.

On March 28 2012 11:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I've been using a simple system to keep track of people, and I have the game solved. It's just a matter of waiting it out now.
+ Show Spoiler [gg] +
[image loading]


So you just alignment claimed soviet for the second time? You are also grouping people based on Nationality.

Only one class benefits from grouping based on Nationality, so indeed, gg Nazi.

##vote: Cyber_Cheese

says why he wants to vote and does it decisively.

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On March 28 2012 23:18 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

I'm voting for reasons I explained very early in the thread.

references earlier, very intangible reasons. makes it look like he put forth a decent case on C_C when he never rly did.


both are short votes, but you have to read into tone. Sinensis has been decently forthright


Thoughts on BH's case? (which isn't focused on the openness but the reasoning behind it)
Also, thoughts on MrZentor?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:24 GMT
#686
On March 30 2012 12:58 Sinensis wrote:
How either Zentor or me is an issue though until we have SOMETHING else from cccalf is bonkers to me. Did you guys even see that he just voted for C_C literally without saying another thing and that's 1/3rd of his posts?

We very well can't just wait until he posts to start discussion. If he doesn't post anything substantive we can lynch him, but there is no sense in halting all discussion until then.

What do you think of MrZentor?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:26 GMT
#687
speaking of MrZ's vote:
Correct me if I'm wrong: MrZ mentions C_C only 3 times. what does he say?
On March 27 2012 22:49 MrZentor wrote:
C_C looks a little suspicious because of his first post, but I feel that people are reading too far into that.

On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now.

On March 28 2012 01:37 MrZentor wrote:
I want to hear what C_C has to say about him posting posting the flag.

then he votes yayyyyyyyy!!!!!!

....yeah that's not fishy at all. it's not like MrZ jumped on teh bandwagon with the loosest facest case known to mankind

Other stuff that MrZ has done:

Call my posting weird but make no comment on it: click
Make gigantic contentless posts that make his filter look big, but they're even more sparse than gonzaw's posts: what the


What happens if you compare C3 and MrZ? While MrZ has posted more and you might be fooled that the dude has been contributing, let's take a look.
1. voted C_C with little to 0 reason
2. make no concrete stances on anything
3. don't respond to accusations

except MrZ uses a few more posts to lurk. This, ma friends, is what we call active lurking. as in lurking to hide, hide from the lynch, the lynch that'll take down scum this cycle!

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:26 GMT
#688
On March 30 2012 08:16 Sinensis wrote:
Also, Blazinghand was nuked, meaning they knew or at least heavily suspected he was blue. Nukes only work on blues. I don't think mafia would have ever voted Blazinghand under any circumstances since their nuke worked. On the first night they probably tried to nuke VE and failed because he wasn't blue.


On March 30 2012 08:35 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote:
On March 22 2012 10:43 Hesmyrr wrote:2. Mafia have one-shot special kill power, that can only target power role but is guaranteed to kill, called NUKE which can be used at night. NUKE is independent from normal mafia NK so can be used simultaneously. When mafia targets citizen with NUKE it will fail. Subsequent day post will state 'Terrorist attempt on US/SU has been thwarted', revealing nationality of the target (but not the name) and the fact that nuke had been used.

Nuke is one-shot, sinensis


Oh, well it still means mafia suspected Blazinghand as a very likely blue. Nevermind what I said before about them trying to nuke VE that doesn't make sense.


Also, why do you bring this up? How does this help us find and lynch scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:31 GMT
#689
On March 30 2012 14:26 EchelonTee wrote:
speaking of MrZ's vote:
Correct me if I'm wrong: MrZ mentions C_C only 3 times. what does he say?
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:49 MrZentor wrote:
C_C looks a little suspicious because of his first post, but I feel that people are reading too far into that.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 01:37 MrZentor wrote:
I want to hear what C_C has to say about him posting posting the flag.

then he votes yayyyyyyyy!!!!!!

....yeah that's not fishy at all. it's not like MrZ jumped on teh bandwagon with the loosest facest case known to mankind

Other stuff that MrZ has done:

Call my posting weird but make no comment on it: click
Make gigantic contentless posts that make his filter look big, but they're even more sparse than gonzaw's posts: what the


What happens if you compare C3 and MrZ? While MrZ has posted more and you might be fooled that the dude has been contributing, let's take a look.
1. voted C_C with little to 0 reason
2. make no concrete stances on anything
3. don't respond to accusations

except MrZ uses a few more posts to lurk. This, ma friends, is what we call active lurking. as in lurking to hide, hide from the lynch, the lynch that'll take down scum this cycle!



Ok, then vote him and lets move on.
Could you expound your stance on gonzaw and bluelightz?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:34 GMT
#690
posted that too early wops
##Vote MrZentor

bh's case hinges on sinensis's vote for C_C being unsupported, and that his response to bh's questioning was scummy. this is a good case for most ppl, but IMO sinensis is similar to nisani; almost always writes 1 liners, terse posts. u have to read into tone more, and i feel thus far sinensis has been honest.

MrZ's vote was also unsupported, response to questioning was also scummy, but he's been very non-transparent and hasn't been active within town as much as Sinensis.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 30 2012 05:37 GMT
#691
On March 30 2012 14:34 EchelonTee wrote:
posted that too early wops
##Vote MrZentor

bh's case hinges on sinensis's vote for C_C being unsupported, and that his response to bh's questioning was scummy. this is a good case for most ppl, but IMO sinensis is similar to nisani; almost always writes 1 liners, terse posts. u have to read into tone more, and i feel thus far sinensis has been honest.

MrZ's vote was also unsupported, response to questioning was also scummy, but he's been very non-transparent and hasn't been active within town as much as Sinensis.

Who is nisani and why does he matter?
BH's case hinges on sinensis' vote not being unsupported but being supported with very questionable structures.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:38 GMT
#692
they're not on deck to be lynched; i'm not in mood for a cluttered thread. we already have C3, Sinensis, and MrZ as potentials and the fact that i want to talk about them over gonzaw and bluelightz should clue you in to who i think is most scummy at this point.

AKA

i'm not going to post a list of reads, sloosh.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:45 GMT
#693
On March 30 2012 14:37 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 14:34 EchelonTee wrote:
posted that too early wops
##Vote MrZentor

bh's case hinges on sinensis's vote for C_C being unsupported, and that his response to bh's questioning was scummy. this is a good case for most ppl, but IMO sinensis is similar to nisani; almost always writes 1 liners, terse posts. u have to read into tone more, and i feel thus far sinensis has been honest.

MrZ's vote was also unsupported, response to questioning was also scummy, but he's been very non-transparent and hasn't been active within town as much as Sinensis.

Who is nisani and why does he matter?
BH's case hinges on sinensis' vote not being unsupported but being supported with very questionable structures.


are u actively trying to not read my post? I said who nisani is; posts 1 liners. thus it's easy to pin players like that as scummy b/c they look like they're lurking and being evasive, but u have to look at the big picture.

being "unspported" or "supported with very questionable strcutres" is stupid, stupid semantics as usual. Either way, it's a VOTE that one way or another LACKS ADEQUATE SUPPORT.

is there any reason you lurked all D1? i almost forgot you were playing, which is fcking weird for you.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 30 2012 05:53 GMT
#694
Looking back at my old posts some of them sound like a drunken monkey wrote them so if something's nonsensical just ask. Excluding people who have already posted cases, townsfolk:

1. Who of C3, Sinensis, or MrZ you want dead?
2. Why? (this one is important)
3. go back and do #2 because you didn't do it yet
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
March 30 2012 08:13 GMT
#695
I want C3 dead, read my filter for why.

Why are you guys voting a person that has been useful, but is progresibly being useless, then a TOTTALY Useless guy, omg.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
March 30 2012 14:40 GMT
#696
WHERE IS EVERYONE? Scum are just lurking their hearts away
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
March 30 2012 14:57 GMT
#697
On March 30 2012 12:02 gonzaw wrote:
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On March 30 2012 11:24 Sinensis wrote:
On March 30 2012 11:18 MrZentor wrote:
There's the scum.

The only thing to decide is if Nemesis is his scum buddy or retarded.
Probably both.


It isn't Nemesis, I am actually pretty sure about this. It's froggy, he's the one who sheeped me for an irrelevant reason after Nemesis's original vote and case. cccalf, froggy, and gonzaw. I am okay with lynching any of these players today, though I will prefer cccalf unless he posts something.



Why don't you post cases against those players and me?
So far this Day 2 you have just been defending yourself and bickered with Nemensis, you haven't posted any cases, or thorough reads or thoughts.

Froggy is scum just because he "sheeped" you? When, where, how? Point out his post, call him out, post more thoughts about him.





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On March 30 2012 11:50 MrZentor wrote:
I like how you say I don't defend myself after quoting a post in which I defend myself.

Let me interpret this post.

dusfgpiutserlnmgszrbcwidanfioftlnldhtubmhnrnoeozneeoniaushfdIAMSCUMLYNCHMRZadsjfioajdsfdoijioasdfggghtrtrjgsdgfafsdxjn



....is this a joke?

Saying "Oh yes, he criticizes me for defending Bluelightz." is a defense? Really? Who do you expect will buy this bullshit?


*sigh* Okay people, I want people to post their thoughts on this.

Froggy, jhonny, ET, zelblade, Blue, etc, tell me what you think about Zentor, and tell me if you would be okay lynching him or not.

It's not my fault you are a retarded scum that doesn't know what a defense is.

On March 30 2012 14:17 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 04:21 MrZentor wrote:
On March 30 2012 02:28 slOosh wrote:
I would also like to bring up MrZentor as a lynch candidate.

gonzaw has brought up some decent stuff in his case here. But I found him suspicious for different things so I'll address that now.

The context is very important here. Please read the posts surrounding his instead of just the filter.
On March 27 2012 22:49 MrZentor wrote:
C_C looks a little suspicious because of his first post, but I feel that people are reading too far into that.

This is written on page 12, after VE posted his initial case on CC and much after CC posted his first post containing the "accusation" and the flag. Then comes a couple of pages of discussion on gonzaw, bluelightz, ET and such. Nothing but one post from Nemesis, who comments the "lack of stance" as suspicious. Watch MrZentor's next post:


On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
On March 27 2012 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
You two need to post your thoughts on my case against C_C in detail and give your thoughts on my other scum-read gonzaw.


I do agree that his initial accusation looks suspicious. The flag is really bizarre, because I couldn't imagine posting it as mafia or towns person. If I were mafia, why would I call attention to myself with a conspicuous flag? If I were a towns person, why would I give the mafia a hint at my nationality? Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts.



I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now.

There is nothing in the thread itself discussing the flag itself. There is no new public content in between his first post in which he says "people are reading too much into his initial post", and "his initial post looks suspicious". He agrees that the flag is really bizarre but did not mention it in his first post - taking a very neutral stance if you will. Then suddenly he agrees with VE that the flag is indeed bizarre, despite the fact that no one has talked about it. He also throws in the bogus last line, indicating that his subtle accusation is also evidence against him, despite the fact that "people are reading too much into his initial post".

Verdict: MrZentor initially took a neutral stance, and after observation of how the town reacted to the case decided to help push it along. The lack of public thread discussion and the sharp contrast in his stance against CC suggests that he has talked to other people about it (read. scum buddies).

Also his initial post suggesting town lynch lurkers after hitting a few scum is downright weird.


I thought one thing and posted another. :/ I meant to say that people were reading too far into the flag on his first post. It was bizarre, but it really didn't tell us anything about C_C, so it was best to ignore it. It is important to note C_C's underhanded accusation of VE. It seemed like a scummy action.

His actual read on CC?
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I do agree that his initial accusation looks suspicious. The flag is really bizarre, because I couldn't imagine posting it as mafia or towns person. If I were mafia, why would I call attention to myself with a conspicuous flag? If I were a towns person, why would I give the mafia a hint at my nationality? Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts.


The thing that was just said to be only bizarre but something to be ignored, is actually the crux of his read on CC.
Inconsistencies are a huge scum tell and MrZentor have been caught in one.
Plus he is downright trolling gonzaw right now, and showing absolutely no effort in scumhunting.
Read his two other games (where he is town aligned) - much more content, much more purpose.

##Vote MrZentor


Rofl, I have been just waiting for an idiot to say this. Because a lot of people were talking about the flag, I had to show them why it was unhelpful and should be ignored; I was also showing why it wasn't part of my case.

I also like how you bolded everything but the most important part: "Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts." I explicitly state the crux of my argument and why I'm ignoring part of the "evidence" other people were using.

And you think the evidence I'm ignoring is the crux of my arguement?
Scum or idiot?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
March 30 2012 16:52 GMT
#698
On March 30 2012 23:57 MrZentor wrote:
It's not my fault you are a retarded scum that doesn't know what a defense is.


I won't let you derail the discussion with ad hominems and misdirections
Get serious or I'm ignoring you until you die.



Rofl, I have been just waiting for an idiot to say this. Because a lot of people were talking about the flag, I had to show them why it was unhelpful and should be ignored; I was also showing why it wasn't part of my case.

I also like how you bolded everything but the most important part: "Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts." I explicitly state the crux of my argument and why I'm ignoring part of the "evidence" other people were using.

And you think the evidence I'm ignoring is the crux of my arguement?
Scum or idiot?



The point is that is the only time you mention C_C.
And that was at the beginning of Day 1, and only dwelled with C_C's first posts.

You never stated what you thought about C_C's newer posts, you never stated what you thought about his case on Blue and if you thought his new actions made him more scummy or not.
Your reasons for voting C_C were ONLY based on his first 3-4 posts, and you completely disregarded his later ones



Zentor, could you even try to care about this game?

You call everybody that accuses you "Scum or idiot/stupid?", you don't defend yourself against the points I brought up, and you didn't respond before in N1 either.
You don't even try to post your thoughts on other people, or pressure anybody:

You haven't voted yet, so what are you waiting for? Who will you vote? Wtf are you doing if it's not trying to figure out who is scum, and vote them if you think they are?

You are just coasting and trolling everybody. I guess your scumteam thinks they've already won by killing both VE and BH, right?


This place is deserted atm people, that's bad. I'm still expecting other players thoughts on Zentor, and hopefully their votes.




On March 30 2012 13:55 johnnywup wrote:
my read on zentor: he started off really helpful but got progressively less helpful. don't know if that entails scum, but don't think he should be a prime target atm unless someone can point out some explicitly scummy posts of his to me



What do you think about my case on him?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322686&currentpage=28#547



@ET: So, do you think I'm scum or not? You haven't answered that question from mine before.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
March 30 2012 16:55 GMT
#699
Zentor, I'm REALLY TEMPTED to vote for you right now, because of how retarded you are acting.

You are pulling a huge OMGUS on everyone that is voting for you right now. THINK why half the town is pretty much finding you suspicious, or better yet actually read the cases against you. -_-

I'll summarize my case against sinensis when I come back a few hours from now.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
March 30 2012 16:56 GMT
#700
On March 31 2012 01:52 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 23:57 MrZentor wrote:
It's not my fault you are a retarded scum that doesn't know what a defense is.


I won't let you derail the discussion with ad hominems and misdirections
Get serious or I'm ignoring you until you die.



Show nested quote +
Rofl, I have been just waiting for an idiot to say this. Because a lot of people were talking about the flag, I had to show them why it was unhelpful and should be ignored; I was also showing why it wasn't part of my case.

I also like how you bolded everything but the most important part: "Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts." I explicitly state the crux of my argument and why I'm ignoring part of the "evidence" other people were using.

And you think the evidence I'm ignoring is the crux of my arguement?
Scum or idiot?



The point is that is the only time you mention C_C.
And that was at the beginning of Day 1, and only dwelled with C_C's first posts.

You never stated what you thought about C_C's newer posts, you never stated what you thought about his case on Blue and if you thought his new actions made him more scummy or not.
Your reasons for voting C_C were ONLY based on his first 3-4 posts, and you completely disregarded his later ones



Zentor, could you even try to care about this game?

You call everybody that accuses you "Scum or idiot/stupid?", you don't defend yourself against the points I brought up, and you didn't respond before in N1 either.
You don't even try to post your thoughts on other people, or pressure anybody:

You haven't voted yet, so what are you waiting for? Who will you vote? Wtf are you doing if it's not trying to figure out who is scum, and vote them if you think they are?

You are just coasting and trolling everybody. I guess your scumteam thinks they've already won by killing both VE and BH, right?


This place is deserted atm people, that's bad. I'm still expecting other players thoughts on Zentor, and hopefully their votes.




Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 13:55 johnnywup wrote:
my read on zentor: he started off really helpful but got progressively less helpful. don't know if that entails scum, but don't think he should be a prime target atm unless someone can point out some explicitly scummy posts of his to me



What do you think about my case on him?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322686&currentpage=28#547



@ET: So, do you think I'm scum or not? You haven't answered that question from mine before.


Scum calling me scum.
lolololololol
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