The Sum of All Fears Mafia - Page 35

On March 28 2012 11:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I've been using a simple system to keep track of people, and I have the game solved. It's just a matter of waiting it out now.
+ Show Spoiler [gg] +

On March 30 2012 02:28 slOosh wrote:
I would also like to bring up MrZentor as a lynch candidate.

gonzaw has brought up some decent stuff in his case here. But I found him suspicious for different things so I'll address that now.

The context is very important here. Please read the posts surrounding his instead of just the filter.

This is written on page 12, after VE posted his initial case on CC and much after CC posted his first post containing the "accusation" and the flag. Then comes a couple of pages of discussion on gonzaw, bluelightz, ET and such. Nothing but one post from Nemesis, who comments the "lack of stance" as suspicious. Watch MrZentor's next post:



There is nothing in the thread itself discussing the flag itself. There is no new public content in between his first post in which he says "people are reading too much into his initial post", and "his initial post looks suspicious". He agrees that the flag is really bizarre but did not mention it in his first post - taking a very neutral stance if you will. Then suddenly he agrees with VE that the flag is indeed bizarre, despite the fact that no one has talked about it. He also throws in the bogus last line, indicating that his subtle accusation is also evidence against him, despite the fact that "people are reading too much into his initial post".

Verdict: MrZentor initially took a neutral stance, and after observation of how the town reacted to the case decided to help push it along. The lack of public thread discussion and the sharp contrast in his stance against CC suggests that he has talked to other people about it (read. scum buddies).

Also his initial post suggesting town lynch lurkers after hitting a few scum is downright weird.

On March 30 2012 08:14 Nemesis wrote:
Also your play here is quite different:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321496&user=45996
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=45996

In those other games, you are generally more helpful. You were trying to promote discussion, and doing some scumhunting of yourself. But this time you are literally just bandwagoning with easy votes.

On March 28 2012 11:51 Sinensis wrote:
Back from work.



So you just alignment claimed soviet for the second time? You are also grouping people based on Nationality.

Only one class benefits from grouping based on Nationality, so indeed, gg Nazi.

##vote: Cyber_Cheese

On March 28 2012 23:18 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

I'm voting for reasons I explained very early in the thread.

On March 30 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote:

Nuke is one-shot, sinensis

On March 27 2012 22:49 MrZentor wrote:
C_C looks a little suspicious because of his first post, but I feel that people are reading too far into that.

On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now.

On March 28 2012 01:37 MrZentor wrote:
I want to hear what C_C has to say about him posting posting the flag.

On March 30 2012 14:34 EchelonTee wrote:
posted that too early wops
##Vote MrZentor

bh's case hinges on sinensis's vote for C_C being unsupported, and that his response to bh's questioning was scummy. this is a good case for most ppl, but IMO sinensis is similar to nisani; almost always writes 1 liners, terse posts. u have to read into tone more, and i feel thus far sinensis has been honest.

MrZ's vote was also unsupported, response to questioning was also scummy, but he's been very non-transparent and hasn't been active within town as much as Sinensis.

On March 30 2012 11:24 Sinensis wrote:


It isn't Nemesis, I am actually pretty sure about this. It's froggy, he's the one who sheeped me for an irrelevant reason after Nemesis's original vote and case. cccalf, froggy, and gonzaw. I am okay with lynching any of these players today, though I will prefer cccalf unless he posts something.

On March 30 2012 11:50 MrZentor wrote:
I like how you say I don't defend myself after quoting a post in which I defend myself.

Let me interpret this post.

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On March 30 2012 04:21 MrZentor wrote:


I thought one thing and posted another. :/ I meant to say that people were reading too far into the flag on his first post. It was bizarre, but it really didn't tell us anything about C_C, so it was best to ignore it. It is important to note C_C's underhanded accusation of VE. It seemed like a scummy action.

On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote:
I do agree that his initial accusation looks suspicious. The flag is really bizarre, because I couldn't imagine posting it as mafia or towns person. If I were mafia, why would I call attention to myself with a conspicuous flag? If I were a towns person, why would I give the mafia a hint at my nationality? Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts.

On March 30 2012 23:57 MrZentor wrote:
It's not my fault you are a retarded scum that doesn't know what a defense is.

Rofl, I have been just waiting for an idiot to say this. Because a lot of people were talking about the flag, I had to show them why it was unhelpful and should be ignored; I was also showing why it wasn't part of my case.

I also like how you bolded everything but the most important part: "Currently, he does seem like the scummiest player, because of the subtle accusation accompanied with his other posts." I explicitly state the crux of my argument and why I'm ignoring part of the "evidence" other people were using.

And you think the evidence I'm ignoring is the crux of my arguement?
Scum or idiot?

On March 30 2012 13:55 johnnywup wrote:
my read on zentor: he started off really helpful but got progressively less helpful. don't know if that entails scum, but don't think he should be a prime target atm unless someone can point out some explicitly scummy posts of his to me