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EBWOP:
On March 30 2012 12:50 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 12:47 gonzaw wrote:
So does that make him scum alone? Just because he voted you? Can you try and put a little bit more effort here?
And no, you didn't say you were suspicious of Zentor nor zeblade in your second post. This wouldn't have been important, if it wasn't for the fact that you seemed to try and buddy up with the guy that supposedly was suspicious to you. I am not buddying up I am trying to come eventually come to a mutual lynch agreement with someone. Yes I am suspicious of him. Yes I am okay if he votes for someone on my scum list. Hell, he could vote for himself and I'd be happy.
So it's not suspicious to you, that a guy you think is scum is tunneling another guy you think is scum? That's just so "cool" to you that you casually talk to him?
How about this: You think Zentor is scummy/scum, then vote him.
A vig can take care of cccalf tonight; or more importantly, a vig SHOULD take care of cccalf tonight. Like some people said before, we don't need to waste all D2 discussion about him, and let the thread stagnate.
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On March 30 2012 12:02 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 11:24 Sinensis wrote:On March 30 2012 11:18 MrZentor wrote:
There's the scum.
The only thing to decide is if Nemesis is his scum buddy or retarded.
Probably both. It isn't Nemesis, I am actually pretty sure about this. It's froggy, he's the one who sheeped me for an irrelevant reason after Nemesis's original vote and case. cccalf, froggy, and gonzaw. I am okay with lynching any of these players today, though I will prefer cccalf unless he posts something. Why don't you post cases against those players and me? So far this Day 2 you have just been defending yourself and bickered with Nemensis, you haven't posted any cases, or thorough reads or thoughts. Froggy is scum just because he "sheeped" you? When, where, how? Point out his post, call him out, post more thoughts about him.
Sorry for late reply, manic day at work.
@ Gonzaw: Please do not defend me, I don't need your buddying. I had the same gripe with VE defending JW and Blue.
@ Sinensis: I did not sheep you, I agreed with the analysis and thought you weren't defending yourself properly because you were scum... guess what I still think you are scum, you know why? Because you just OMGUS-ed me... again. And have continuously failed to address BH's case against you. Just because he is dead does not mean his case will go away.
@ET: For the upteenth town. My post about VE was not a scum post, I was warning against him taking a town leader role. Which with hindsight looks like I was pretty darn right as 1. He flipped town 2. the thread is now in chaos because two of our most vocal scumhunters/town leaders are dead.
More to follow as I read the thread...
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A lot of people are using Mr Z and others vote on C_C as proof of scum. I don't think this is a valid play as everyone still alive voted for C_C and only VE had posted an original case against him... which essentially makes everyone scummy.
@Blue: 3C is causing less havoc than Sinensis and Mr Zentor at the moment. That is why unless they start defending themselves properly I see them as better lynch targets. Remember the 'no useless townie' post VE made:
On March 27 2012 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote:ET: I'm going to share with you a post from PTP1. A little backstory: it was like my second game here and I was still REALLY bad at this game. Like, real bad. But the one thing I had going for me was my willingness to go after site veterans if I thought they were acting shady. I had just smoked BloodyC0bbler because he led a lynch on me and that shit pissed me off. I thought I was clearly town and this guy gets everyone in town to vote for me. So I killed him. Jackal58 was in that game and he posted this. Show nested quote +Jackal wrote:
Hi guys.
Allow me to preface this with the following caveats:
1. I don't care if you like me.
2. I don't care if you think I'm arrogant, belligerent, ignorant, or any other kind of 'ent/ant
3. I'm not here to be your friend.
4. If I hurt your precious feelings you need to start spending more time in the real world.
5. I'm here to kill scum
6. I will not coddle you in the process.
Now that we have that out of the way I'm going to speak my mind.
75% of you suck. That is a simple truth.
There is no such thing as a "useless townie". That line of thinking stops right here. RIGHT NOW. You all get that? I hope you got that. If you wish to push it any more you are scum. The only useless townies are inactives that will be modkilled. If an individual is posting things you don't agree with, or you think are off the mark, or you think are scummy by all means call them out on it. But stop analyzing people you think are useless townies. If they are town they are not useless. You dumbshits are going to "useless" townie us right into oblivion.Stop fucking doing it. The only thing you are doing is giving scum a place to hide. The only useless townies are the ones calling others useless townies. Fucking stop it. Morons.
Do not base your analysis on people that piss you off. We just lost the goddamned batman because some fucking moron had a fucking hardon at BC. I understand that this game creates emotional responses from people. You dumbshits have to understand that sometimes people are looking for emotional responses. Scum love to stir the pot. If I call you stupid look at the reason why I called you stupid. Odds are if you step back you will realize that yes what you said was stupid. Stupidity does not make people scummy. Calling a persons post stupid does not make that person scummy. It happens get the fuck over it.
Scummy behavior lies in wanting to kill people for stupid shallow reasons.
Scum do not have to pressure people. Us townies do that all by ourselves. Scum simply look for the opportunity to go along for the ride. Stop driving the fucking bus. If you see a post that seems to push a scum agenda bring it to our attention Stop trying to get people lynched because you think they are stupid. Odds are if a person appears stupid it's because they are stupid. Not because they are scum.
So please stop trying to massage your fucking collective egos. Actually everybody right now take your ego and fold it up into a little square and wipe your ass with it. Then flush it. You'll know where to find it when the game is over.
I am in a mason circle that did include BC. This circle is not of my doing. As far as I know atm nobody in it is the benefactor that included all of us. BC had the best analysis of this game to this point. "General opinion is people are fucktards."
I could not have said it better. Bum can confirm this. He's in the circle with me. I will not out the others. If they wish to claim it's on them. Don't ask me to.
We need to use Bum as an asset. A lot of you are going to call this differently. As of right now I believe towns best interest lies in using Bum until the time comes where he has to play for his win condition. When that moment arrives I have no problem with kicking him to the curb.
I probably have another million things to add but I don't remember wtf they are.
Bottom line is - Town,Stop being fucking morons. Start looking for scum instead of people that piss you off or you deem as useless.
Fucking morons.
Yours truly,
Jackal58 It changed the way I viewed this game, and it made me realize something very important: there's no such thing as a useless townie. Someone actively bad at the game, who disagrees with obvious townies and helps scum push their objectives, even they help town by BEING ALIVE. Scum's win-condition is based on NUMBERS. That's why they say the lynch is town's greatest weapon: because scum can't stop the lynch by any means. If we start feeding "useless townies" to the lynch, then that reduces town's number by one, putting scum one step closer to victory. In short, I don't know yet if johnnywup is scum, but he's certainly not scummy enough to lynch yet. DEFINITELY not for the reasons Blazinghand has stated.
Until you disprove this 3C is less of a lynch target.
JW has been quiet today. Where you at?
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Sorry for my dissapearance, some IRL stuff came up.
Regarding today's lynch and its candidates.
cccalf is basically either 1) lurking scum, or 2) newb/busy town who doesnt really care much about the game.
Either way, there is no way to discern his alignment from the complete lack of content he has posted. He is a ok lynch, one that I wouldnt mind supporting. He has had plenty of time to redeem himself for his lurkiness, and yet hasnt done so. Saving him for a vigi shot would be a better idea than lynching him here imo, but the primary problem is that we might not have one.
Zentor on the other hand..
Gonzaw makes several interesting points against him. Look at zentor's reactions to this case. He flips, calls everyone attacking him scum, and basically starts to not give a shit about the game. I seriously doubt a townie would react this way to be honest. I expect a townie to respond to the points, take a look at the agurement presented at the very least. All zentor does is post ridiculous crap and sums up the case against him as "I defended bluelightz".
Which is why:
##vote: MrZentor
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On March 30 2012 02:18 Blazinghand wrote:It's also the truth, and you know it. If you are shot by scum tonight I will literally eat my hat. IRL. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hqgo2.png)
Blzinghand I want a vid of that :D
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On March 31 2012 02:23 froggynoddy wrote:
Sorry for late reply, manic day at work.
@ Gonzaw: Please do not defend me, I don't need your buddying. I had the same gripe with VE defending JW and Blue.
I'm not buddying you.
If Sinensis thinks you are scum, I want him to make a case and post more than just "he sheeped on his vote on me".
Also froggy, my case doesn't rest on his vote on C_C (although it's an important factor). Read my case, and come back and tell me your thoughts.
I linked to it in my response to JW a little while back.
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On March 31 2012 02:56 zelblade wrote:
Sorry for my dissapearance, some IRL stuff came up.
Regarding today's lynch and its candidates.
cccalf is basically either 1) lurking scum, or 2) newb/busy town who doesnt really care much about the game.
Either way, there is no way to discern his alignment from the complete lack of content he has posted. He is a ok lynch, one that I wouldnt mind supporting. He has had plenty of time to redeem himself for his lurkiness, and yet hasnt done so. Saving him for a vigi shot would be a better idea than lynching him here imo, but the primary problem is that we might not have one.
Zentor on the other hand..
Gonzaw makes several interesting points against him. Look at zentor's reactions to this case. He flips, calls everyone attacking him scum, and basically starts to not give a shit about the game. I seriously doubt a townie would react this way to be honest. I expect a townie to respond to the points, take a look at the agurement presented at the very least. All zentor does is post ridiculous crap and sums up the case against him as "I defended bluelightz".
Which is why:
##vote: MrZentor
![[image loading]](http://informedfarmers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sheep.jpg)
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The irony is so great it hurts.
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Zentor if youre somehow town that isnt actually helping you know?
I am also going to sleep now. Im mostly caught up with the thread but im really tired now so ill need to reevaluate everything else in the morning.
Night.
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I think all people who aren't either idiots or scum will want to kill the scummy gonzaw.
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So why don't you even vote me....?
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Will post thoughts on Gonzaw vs Zentor later
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On March 31 2012 03:40 gonzaw wrote:
So why don't you even vote me....?
Oh, I will.
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On March 31 2012 03:58 MrZentor wrote:Oh, I will.
So what are you waiting for?
Are you waiting to see if a bandwagon against me forms first, so you can jump on it later? Are you waiting to see if you can vote for someone else later?
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EBWOP:
Also, I'd like to see why you think I'm scum.
Is it because of my first 3 posts? Just like you thought C_C was scum ONLY because of his first 3 posts but disregarded the rest?
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On March 31 2012 04:31 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 03:58 MrZentor wrote:On March 31 2012 03:40 gonzaw wrote:
So why don't you even vote me....? Oh, I will. So what are you waiting for? Are you waiting to see if a bandwagon against me forms first, so you can jump on it later? Are you waiting to see if you can vote for someone else later?
Don't be silly.
I just want you to fear the future.
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On March 31 2012 02:33 froggynoddy wrote:
JW has been quiet today. Where you at?
had a lot of work to do, but im free now, will put up some reads soon
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Discussion is really, really dead... scum would probably only be ok with this if we were going in a nubular direction.
sloosh, nemesis, would you be willing to lynch cccalf? people are saying "let someone vig him", which implies there is a consensus that he is scum, but the only person attempting a push is Bluelightz. and what if there isn't a vig T_T
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On March 31 2012 07:20 EchelonTee wrote:
Discussion is really, really dead... scum would probably only be ok with this if we were going in a nubular direction.
sloosh, nemesis, would you be willing to lynch cccalf? people are saying "let someone vig him", which implies there is a consensus that he is scum, but the only person attempting a push is Bluelightz. and what if there isn't a vig T_T
No, it means that he's useless to town.
![[image loading]](http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kya09wJi0S1qzxzwwo1_500.png)
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no, MrZentor you are not blzinghand you don't get to post images. especially when you're playing super derp.
Some people think cccalf is merely "useless town". others think that he should "definitely die" soon. others think that he is scummy (me, at the least). no one thinks that he is a hapless townie. Comparatively, I think sinensis is a hapless townie.
cccalf would be an easy bandwagon kill, for scum. there is a consensus that he should "die" for some reason, and it wouldn't be hard to start a push. yet there's some strange resistance against just killing him outright. There is nearly zero reason to think cccalf is town. any reason you don't want cccalf axed, MrZ?
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