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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 21 2012 19:45 GMT
#205
Just got back in town I took the won't start for awhile literally just reading up don't kill meeeee
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 21 2012 20:18 GMT
#214
On March 22 2012 03:04 Alderan wrote:
I've played with gumshoe a couple times now, and he always seems to start out slow but then get better and eventually help. He's the kind of person that's going to post enough to eventually hang himself if he is indeed scum, I say we leave him for now.


On March 22 2012 04:03 Alderan wrote:
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On March 22 2012 03:25 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 22 2012 03:04 Alderan wrote:
I've played with gumshoe a couple times now, and he always seems to start out slow but then get better and eventually help. He's the kind of person that's going to post enough to eventually hang himself if he is indeed scum, I say we leave him for now.


No one gets a "free pass", not in a game that i'm in. Im not going to let someone who posts like that live for long, especially if its on the basis of, Oh he will probably get better, dont worry about it.


Certainly not giving him the free pass, just saying given the information we have right now I would feel uncomfortable lynching him given this is how he has begun every game I've played with him, and he was town both times.


Nobody said we had to lynch him but you seem to be keen on keeping any pressure at all off of him. At the same time all your doing otherwise has been making snarky comments

Gumshoe...

I just dont get this dude, half the things he says seem to just scream posting for the sake of posting with huge paragraphs filled with nothingness. for example:

Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured.


Random meta arguement that probably has zero bearing on the actual situation. Newbies reactions are hard to place because they are newbies YOU CANT META THE NEWBS THEY HAVE NONE. Also meta in and of itself really doesnt mean shit without other evidence first, if anything you seem to be just defending him because you feel bad that hes a newb.
That is beyond a shitty reason to defend him and dives into the realm of stupid, we dont lynch new scum then we leave them till its too late.

Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game?

( : but keep in mind it is possible(though unlikely considering scums hate for flashy play early on)


Scum play not being flashy early on? What are you talking about, how do you think scum influences lynches and such if anything scum is going to be loud in order to convince people that just because they are speaking and 'contributing' that it makes them obvious town. I mean really how often do people want to lynch actives day one on the basis that "we could go after lurkers" or other such excuses. If anything lynching an active but shitposting player is a much stronger way to start a game. If we run out of leads day 2 we start pressuring more lurkers or if we still have absoulutely nothing nearer to the end of day 1 then its in the meh choice and really if we are forced to kill a lurker day 1 then we clearly arent trying hard enough to make people actually spell out opinions.

Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game?

( : but keep in mind it is possible(though unlikely considering scums hate for flashy play early on)


So right after you agree with Sand on the ignore Baelish point you come back and reference him again. What part of mod confirmed do you not understand HE CANNOT BE SCUM and im 95% sure this is not a bastard mod game where he is scum. Does he have a KP or not is irrelevant because we cannot stop him. There is no point in bringing up the is he scum or not unless your trying to misdirect people into searching for a reason to waste a lynch on him.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2012 02:27 GMT
#277
On March 22 2012 11:12 Alderan wrote:
He gave away his wincon.... that wasn't so much a question as a comment to make it a little more clear for everyone.

Anywho it's over now for good. So we can stop worrying about. My apologies. Carry on.


Your failing at the ignore the third party portion of this, I also doubt WBG is retarded enough to slip his wincon this early and for all we know it could be misleading us its not over for good.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#278
On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post. syllo believe mattchew is likely town aswell, I can't understand his reasons, but he is probably right.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo.


Arco prob town but why do you think gumshoes is, in all honesty im still 50/50 on him. Oberyn needs some more before i make a call too.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2012 21:30 GMT
#374
On March 23 2012 06:23 Risen wrote:
Can't read OriginalName b/c there's just not enough to analyze. He has a long post criticizing Alderan, but the rest is just filler saying he can't form an opinion on anyone else b/c there's nothing to go on (which isn't horrible filler since it's true)


HENCE WHY I POSTED IT.

(also im here again just reading up from where i left off. Although the only thing that really irks me is oberyns super long post of opinions which really reads like. IM TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE BUT NOT REALLY CONTRIBUTING.

Another thing to note is Samuels passiveness. hes running around voting people and switching around without even letting them post so it fails as a pressure vote. They post at most adequate reasons for things and a kicker is from a post where i asked them to explain themselves earlier.

They did respond but only after i asked them.
Why are you holding information back, there is no reason to hold it back and the votes seem to be pushing a scum agenda of just pushing whoever they damn well feel like because they know they are anti town.

Alderan not helping himself lately again risens opinion actually is fairly correct although he really needs to stop spamming and consolidate his posts.

I need to read mattchew again and will get back later, just doing some chem homework first then will get on it.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#377
Actually I need to Amend my post samuel isn't jumping around he's merely starting a bandwagon while the sheeple hop on then switch with lame reasons.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 22 2012 21:55 GMT
#380
On March 23 2012 06:37 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 06:30 OriginalName wrote:
On March 23 2012 06:23 Risen wrote:
Can't read OriginalName b/c there's just not enough to analyze. He has a long post criticizing Alderan, but the rest is just filler saying he can't form an opinion on anyone else b/c there's nothing to go on (which isn't horrible filler since it's true)


HENCE WHY I POSTED IT.

(also im here again just reading up from where i left off. Although the only thing that really irks me is oberyns super long post of opinions which really reads like. IM TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE BUT NOT REALLY CONTRIBUTING.

Another thing to note is Samuels passiveness. hes running around voting people and switching around without even letting them post so it fails as a pressure vote. They post at most adequate reasons for things and a kicker is from a post where i asked them to explain themselves earlier.

They did respond but only after i asked them.
Why are you holding information back, there is no reason to hold it back and the votes seem to be pushing a scum agenda of just pushing whoever they damn well feel like because they know they are anti town.

Alderan not helping himself lately again risens opinion actually is fairly correct although he really needs to stop spamming and consolidate his posts.

I need to read mattchew again and will get back later, just doing some chem homework first then will get on it.


Please explain what you mean by me holding information back in this post. What am I holding back? I'll stop for now since yeah my posting is pretty much 90% of the last couple pages


SLJ was not you, your a goddamned open book in comparison.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 01:39 GMT
#413
I'm voting SLJ

For the following reasons I believe them to be scum.

-There's two of them and they are both lurking hardcore there is no excuse for this behaviour
-Not contributing any opinions before flaunting vet status and starting questionable bandwagon that everyone is jumping on.
-Pushing agenda through above method
-Doing nothing to contribute to atmosphere and using horrid paragraph/other crappie that neither usually ignore and makes it seem that they really don't care
-Throwing votes down without reason

The cases on layabout are fairly meh nothing of his outright rises suspicion other then his questionable alt targets.

Alderan is increadably trashy as well with that clear bandwagon jump how do people get away with this.

#Vote SLJ
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 01:48 GMT
#416
That big post layabout made is by no means bad at all guys I really think moving to Alderan or SLJ at the moment is a much smarter move.

If you guys wanna sick up to vets I've been here just as long or longer than those clowns

+ Show Spoiler +
Or you man up and play for real and stop sucking their cocks and inflating their egos. Play the goddamned game and stop being sheeple
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 01:49 GMT
#417
Suckup not sick up goddamned autocorrect
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 02:01 GMT
#422
On March 23 2012 10:55 gumshoe wrote:
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On March 23 2012 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 23 2012 10:01 gumshoe wrote:
On March 23 2012 09:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain how layabout's posts are harmful? Just saying so does not make them so.

In addition, lynching someone because they're a "bigger threat" as scum is stupid unless you've got 2 confirmed scum to lynch from. And guess what, that pretty much never happens, and that probably means town has already won.


Umm you cant just say somethings stupid without going into why, oh and I've already gone into how Layabout's posts are harmful, he attacks for silly reasons like"you wont believe how often people who talk abut setup are scum" and he's tunnelling someone I believe to be a vulnerable but helpful townie. Hes also only become active now that hes been accused. Thats why I suspect him.

Also if you suspect two people equally, if one of them is both a bigger loss(as town) and a smaller gain(as scum) whats wrong with choosing to save that person and go after the other guy you think is scum?


you lynch to lynch scum, not to lynch whoever's "more threatening.'

Why? because you don't know what their alignment is.

The only two people you know the alignment of are yourself and me. Of course, if you're scum youll know the alignment of 3 others...but whatever.

What layabout has said isn't harmful. It's completely true that often the first person to doubt a claim (almost immediately after it occurs) is scum. Who is he tunneling?

If you suspect two people equally, you're playing this game wrong.


Also how is it weird to equally suspect your two highest suspects?


It means your indecisive and need to man the fuck up and figure out which is scummier instead of stalling I'm still not entirely convinced your town either

Xant is completely up in the air right now and evantrees shouldn't be in the running as there is nothing really to be basing a case off of.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 02:06 GMT
#425
If doesn't matter who a bigger threat or asset is its who is and who isn't scum you aren't asking the right questions if you believe that.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 03:33 GMT
#430
On March 23 2012 12:00 evantrees wrote:
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On March 23 2012 11:00 gumshoe wrote:
evantrees where are you btw? What do you think of Layabout's suspicion of you? You did just talk about setup and leave so whats the deal?

Seems to mostly be complaining about a joke, which followed a joke from bugs,and who posted before bugs kenpachi!

Otherwise I have been useless so somewhat understandable.

Since I would not mind seeing him lynched or shot for now ##Vote Mattchew.
I think Mattchew and gumshoe would make good vig targets.


I see a huge trend in people doing huge throwaway votes to fly under the radar.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 21:05 GMT
#523
Im not confident in either of the top candidates so far. Eventrees is still neglecting the thread and such and probably wouldnt be a half bad target however my vote is going to stay where it is since SLJ seems to be content to sit in the background and just throw blame around while making sure he is as far away from the current lynches as possible instead of just pushing someone and rolling with it, at this point hes probably my most solid read and as such my vote will stay on him.

just some observations on said person as well

On March 23 2012 19:20 SamuelLJackson wrote:
You do not know us, so it's easy to understand why you would make that assumption based on our in-thread activity, but nevertheless you are mistaken. Moreover, a hydra is a bit like a confirmed mason pair, and I do in fact discuss everything with sandroba, I'm just too lazy to post and most of the things that get said are town reads.


Still hiding information, there is no use for town in this. The point of a mason is to disscuss with each other and to allow ideas to be bounced off and plans to be formed that can then be posted into the thread. You have really not shown any results within the thread and seem to be content with the game however it goes.

There is absolutely nothing "suspect" about our behaviour, so while you have a point about us not putting in much effort yet, and I won't promise I will, you should focus your attention elsewhere.


This is just a detrimental attitude towards lynching scum.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 23 2012 21:25 GMT
#530
On March 24 2012 06:11 SamuelLJackson wrote:
ON stop nitpicking on syllo, you realize he is talking about only him and not SLJ as a whole. Honestly what do you think produces more information day1, me pushing a hard lynch I'm not very confident on and most town sheeping me blindly or if I stay cool and let the thread behave organically. I'm not here to behave as people think a townie should behave, I'm trying to get the most info out of this day. I find it hard to believe you really think we are the best lynch for day1 (LOL). Sit down and watch us get shot night 1 or come back day2 and murder all scum.


There is no issues with pushing a hard lynch as often that push can cause scum to slip up harder. If they seem more townie as time goes on then fine switch off. Im just tierd of people playing passive on Day 1 because of what they deem as weak reads. Throw ideas out thats the point sure asking questions is fine but what and WHY do you think something

Going to move over to Eventrees for now, Im likeing sandro if not syllo but really Im probably just wasting my vote atm.


##Vote Eventrees


@Sandro

Im probably picking on you more then most because you have 2 people working on an account with people who dont want to play the game. If anything im venting frustration on people who are being overall unhelpful and while i do believe that if you want to hide info between yourselves if you are town theres no harm in throwing out those ideas to us as well to throw our opinions on.

@Generally everyone else

What is everyone thinking about Sinesis i dont think its wise to truely ignore anyone and he seems to be just sitting there and not barging into the forefront.
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