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Anyone wanna buy my vote? | ||
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##vote GreYMisT | ||
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On April 01 2012 08:19 chaoser wrote: ##vote Zealos you're all idiots. not me! herp derp derp herp | ||
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On April 01 2012 10:02 GreYMisT wrote: You guys are all idiots no u | ||
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On April 02 2012 09:20 Zealos wrote: Tell me why Xatalos is scum in as few words as possible. (Not saying I don't agree with you) no u | ||
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##vote Xatalos | ||
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##unvote ##vote risk.nuke Lol why are you guys siding with me?! Guess that means risk isn't scum rofl | ||
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On April 04 2012 09:35 Jitsu wrote: wut if you're town -_- | ||
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On April 04 2012 10:14 chaoser wrote: no one should talk about anything tonight. the less mafia know the better. stfu scummy scum scum | ||
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so funny. This game I trolled super hard because Palmar always trolls as third party and ends up winning. It worked somehow. People tend to listen to you subconsciously if you keep repeatngthe same shit really loudly over and over lool | ||
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On April 05 2012 13:53 EchelonTee wrote: WBG's role was pretty interesting. why wasn't he removed when he achieved his wincon? I didn't achieve it till n5. I needed 2 kills and 3 to survive. That was only achieved the last night because scum shot Oberyn for some retarded reason (was it scum or a vig? I don't even know/care) Also yes, my goal was clearly to convince everyone they were stupid :p But yes, this town was god awful. I knew Risen was town but I got him lynched anyway because he made it so easy (and I had targetted him) The layabout lynch was incredibly retarded. Beyond that I made no analysis. On day 2 I figured acro and xatalos were scum. I figured chaoser had to be scm ecause he was alve. Other than that I didn;'t care | ||
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I should mention, I didn't originally intend to troll to the level that I ultimately did. However, I noticed that reason and logic were not actually effective methods of getting my point across. There were three players I wanted to kill day 1, and they were Xatalos, GreYMisT, and gumshoe. At first I though gumshoe was the best choice but I never expressly pushed that in thread because I was afraid people would think "oh the third party wants to lynch this guy, better not lynch him" but day 1 was such a derpfest it didn't even matter. So, I made a series of serious posts after my short period of elation over being unkillable. I realized quickly that no one cared, so I stopped. I picked Oberyn day 1 as a target because I didn't actually think he would get shot nor lynched, despite sandro wanting to kill him. In fact, just BECAUSE sandro wanted to kill him, I knew he probably wouldn't die, because no one ever listens to town sandro. (I identified him as a smurf as well) + Show Spoiler [serious posts] + On March 22 2012 04:17 wherebugsgo wrote: Double fail, you mean? If you're trying to vote him, it's ##vote OriginalName Also Xatalos is scum. And GreYMisT. Sandroba is confirmed town. Probably PGO. On March 23 2012 03:55 wherebugsgo wrote: Why are we voting Oberyn when there are better targets right now? I'd rather let Oberyn live and kill someone like DoYouHas or Xatalos. Even chaoser might ultimately be a better target. On March 23 2012 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote: sandro I don't think layabout is a good target. His posting tone is distinctly different from his tone from Storm. Why don't we discuss things, sandro? I've already explained to you that my best interest lies in lynching mafia. So why don't we collaborate? On March 23 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote: So, despite the fact that gumshoe found similarities between Alderan's scum game and this one, and since he thinks layabout is a "reckless townie" (reckless not often being a trait of scum), gumshoe has voted...layabout. Good god people, do you even read your own posts? And you wonder why I troll. On March 23 2012 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote: you lynch to lynch scum, not to lynch whoever's "more threatening.' Why? because you don't know what their alignment is. The only two people you know the alignment of are yourself and me. Of course, if you're scum youll know the alignment of 3 others...but whatever. What layabout has said isn't harmful. It's completely true that often the first person to doubt a claim (almost immediately after it occurs) is scum. Who is he tunneling? If you suspect two people equally, you're playing this game wrong. On March 23 2012 11:41 wherebugsgo wrote: judging from the quality of your posts and the fact that half the thread thought you were scum less than 5 hours into the day, I wouldn't say your opinion is worth much. And that's coming from the guy who's being ignored by everyone. I didn't foresee the layabout lynch at all (tbh I don't think anyone did) and honestly if I thought I could have anticipated the day 1 lynch I would've picked someone other than Oberyn. Day 2 was more derp, and then day 3 was even more derp, and at that point I had no vested interest in the game beyond figuring out which of the players were scum/god awful townies and would never die. I had an inkling at targetting chaoser, but figured it might be risky because someonewould pick up on thefact he was alive and then he'd get lynched. Of course, no one actually used their brains so this was, in the end, a stupid fear. Anyway I learned a bit. Not much, since I'd much rather have actually played a pro-town game to facilitate my wincondition. If the easy way out is to just incessantly troll, then of course I'd rather do that than try to be serious while my head explodes from the stupidity. | ||
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On April 05 2012 17:51 Acrofales wrote: Any tips for my mafia play? Other than that defensive openings are bad,even if they're a ploy? :/ you chose to talk about me a lot, and I frankly found that very suspicious. I figured you were scum around n1, when I reread after the daypost, because of your aversion to talk about anything that town was actually interested in. Then I picked Risen for the kill because momentum seemed to be shifting in that direction and I didn't think I'd convince anyone of anything (and my read on you was weaker than my read on Xatalos+GreYMisT, ofc grey wasn't actually scum). When Risen claimed DT and then claimed a check on you I went "WTF LOL" and then realized that you were indeed scum and Risen was in the worst possible position you could be in as a townie. free kills babay You played really well for a first time player though. Rarely do you see mafia players put in so much effort. | ||
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On April 05 2012 17:57 Acrofales wrote: Yeah bugs, you had me worried with your few serious posts, which was why I also came down pretty hard on anybody starting to argue with you... and then you started trolling, an went afk which made me feel all safe and cozy. Because you were a rather dangerous loose cannon if people started reading your serios posts. The layabout lynch was hilarious. I don't even think mafia had any votes at all on him? That's actually a good point; I knew that the only players who would seriously be worried about me would be scum. I wanted to be on a scum lynch day 1, and that way I could exude influence over the town. Never happened though, because town collectively stuck their heads up their asses and decided to try to argue with their mouths full of their own waste. It was hard to see with all that shit flying around. | ||
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On April 05 2012 18:04 Xatalos wrote: Yeah, I don't get the layabout lynch either xD Like, WTF happened there? We didn't even push him or anything, except gumshoe saying "I think he's a useless townie, so I'll vote for him!" Hmm, any notes about my Mafia play WBG? When and how did you exactly figure I was Mafia? What should I have done differently? Was it good to lurk towards the end and avoid attention? What about my noobie actions during day 1? two or three posts stood out in comparison to the overall vibe you were giving out. On March 22 2012 17:37 Xatalos wrote: Seems like a lot happened while I was sleeping  Nicolas hasn't responded to my vote, but maybe he's just busy with his life or something? Also, as someone said, voting without any evidence isn't really much of a pressure. Maybe I should drop my vote on him for now, although I don't like people just avoiding contact like this... Although I'm a newbie, I'll try to give my opinion on the "main suspects" for being Mafia (I'm going to ignore WBG's accusations, since I don't know what info he has or even what his motives are): 1) Acrofales: The first person to act suspiciously, becoming very defensive and aggressive after some pressure. He hasn't been otherwise suspicious though, so maybe he was just surprised by the situation and overreacted (he isn't a veteran, after all...). I wouldn't say he is cleared by his more recent actions, but I wouldn't say he is the main suspect either. 2) gumshoe: Suggesting a role claim for Acrofales might have been a plot to abuse his newness and to make him reveal a possibly critical town role, but I'm not sure about that. He didn't understand Petyr's role either at first - perhaps he didn't quite know what he was doing in his first posts. If he was a veteran, he would be very suspicious, but since he's not, I'm not sold on lynching him yet. 3) Mattchew: He hasn't said anything truly suspicious, but he has been extremely aggressive towards Acrofales, and even accused people of being Mafia for merely considering the innocence of Acrofales... Same as with gumshoe, he might be merely playing in a confusing way (newbie/personality trait), but to me he seems slightly more suspicious than gumshoe. As for Oberyn... I don't really think he's in the same league as these three. He has certainly been cautious, but not overly defensive. He hasn't contributed that much, but then again, neither have most of the players (yet). Why lynch him now, instead of one of these three? I'm going to change my vote to Mattchew for now, but it's definitely not final. I'll wait for some sort of consensus to appear, since there's still a lot of time left. ##Unvote ##Vote Mattchew This post was extremely suspicious because of the highlighted parts. None of any of this is specific. When players use nonspecific descriptive terms it often means they aren't actually looking for scum. They're just making stuff up. There's a mention in the first part of a "overreaction" to a "situation" but no actual referral to what this situation was, how Acrofales acted, or why it was scummy. Second one about Mattchew was basically "he hasn't said anything suspicious, but he's still suspicious" without any elaboration of why. Lastly, you chose to vote, IMO, the weakest of the reads (the person you said apparently hasn't said anything truly suspicous) and you, in addition, make it clear you want to wait for consensus, rather than creating it yourself. Townies don't wait for consensus, scum do. The second thing that made me even more sure that you were mafia was this: On March 23 2012 00:32 Xatalos wrote: "all of his posts say next to nothing" - I beg to differ. I was the first poster to advice we should ignore WBG and focus on Mafia, and I was also the first poster to notice how exaggerated Acro's response was to a simple pressure vote. You, on the other hand, have (instead of contributing) used mostly meaningless one liners, confusing arguments focusing on small details like if a pressure vote was "real" or not, and dodged questions by burrowing the discussion in petty arguing. You also seem to change your mind really easily - a moment ago Acro was Mafia, and now he is suddenly town? What happened during this time to change your mind, I'd like to hear the reason for that? I changed my vote between gumshoe, OriginalName and Nicolas because their first posts didn't really seem suspicious. Also, I failed to put them under heavier pressure, because I didn't yet have any evidence to pressure them with. Then I decided to try and pressure you, since you seemed at least as suspicious as Acro and gumshoe, but hadn't actually responded yet (only avoided confrontation by dodging and confusing the discussion). You didn't actually answer to any of the accusations (some of which have been said long ago) even now, although your response was at least somewhat productive this time around. Both of these things, IIRC, were false, and both simply tried to take credit for something that isn't necessarily pro-town to begin with. Afterward, it's just a big heaping pile of "let's get this pressure off me and onto the first person it'll stick to...maybe...you!" Everything else was just gut based on your continued oddly reserved and cautious posting style. | ||
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WTF? WHAT LOOL | ||
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