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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 00:59 GMT
#785
I GOT ROLEBLOCKED LOOOOOOOOL

RISEN MAFIA
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:00 GMT
#787
On March 25 2012 09:54 Risen wrote:
Shit. So our vigi hit a townie and mafia hit our vigi?


Not only are you scum, you're illiterate! Sandro's target was not killed because the kill flavor doesn't match.

Herp derp I'm Risen derp can't even read derp

Just die already
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:02 GMT
#788
##vote Risen

Neenerneener you can't even OMGUS me neenerneener die die die
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:05 GMT
#790
On March 25 2012 10:04 Risen wrote:
##vote acrofales

I'm not changing my vote. He is scum. LOOK NO REASONING LOLOLOL. Next on the block should be Lyter or Greymist, depending on how today goes.


you're not changing your vote because as scum you know you have no reason to!

LOL

any reasonable townie would never say such a thing
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:34 GMT
#798
On March 25 2012 10:28 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:16 Mattchew wrote:
Cool so I'm like confirmed town


If you follow the logic that acro=mafia then mattchew=town? Yes.

I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3.

Maybe it's the first one and he's just trying to show us who the mafia is by outlining who jumps on me. I hadn't considered that a 10-3 town/mafia ratio is perfect for him at the end of day 3 when I originally posted, though.


by that logic, if I wanted a close endgame that means...

*gasp*

RISEN IS SCUM

LOL
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:42 GMT
#801
On March 25 2012 10:39 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:35 Mattchew wrote:
No I'm confirmed town because layabout and alj and dyh flipped town


How does that make you town? I'm confused. WBG that's exactly what I said >.>


On March 25 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:28 Risen wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:16 Mattchew wrote:
Cool so I'm like confirmed town


If you follow the logic that acro=mafia then mattchew=town? Yes.

I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3.

Maybe it's the first one and he's just trying to show us who the mafia is by outlining who jumps on me. I hadn't considered that a 10-3 town/mafia ratio is perfect for him at the end of day 3 when I originally posted, though.


by that logic, if I wanted a close endgame that means...

*gasp*

RISEN IS SCUM

LOL



There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Risen has claimed scum. Again.

If you don't kill him, you're seriously braindead.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 01:59 GMT
#805
On March 25 2012 10:48 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:39 Risen wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:35 Mattchew wrote:
No I'm confirmed town because layabout and alj and dyh flipped town


How does that make you town? I'm confused. WBG that's exactly what I said >.>


On March 25 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:28 Risen wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:16 Mattchew wrote:
Cool so I'm like confirmed town


If you follow the logic that acro=mafia then mattchew=town? Yes.

I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3.

Maybe it's the first one and he's just trying to show us who the mafia is by outlining who jumps on me. I hadn't considered that a 10-3 town/mafia ratio is perfect for him at the end of day 3 when I originally posted, though.


by that logic, if I wanted a close endgame that means...

*gasp*

RISEN IS SCUM

LOL



There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Risen has claimed scum. Again.

If you don't kill him, you're seriously braindead.


I think my position is pretty clear. The path for everyone today and (possibly if I'm lynched) tomorrow is set in stone. Focus your trolling on something that isn't set in stone. If I was you I'd start casting one of the mafia players as town and one of the other townies as mafia. If neither me nor acro is lynched today I'm trolling the shit out of this game from now on.


If you were actually town you would tell me to stop trolling, not "troll somewhere else."

Point is, you're scum. Accept that fact and die.

TO ALL TOWNIES:

stop talking to Risen. He's scum. I'm doing you a favor.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 03:51 GMT
#809
man I'm the towniest townie who ever towned. If you can't see how Risen is scum that's not my problem.

I actually am jealous of sandro this game, cause he no longer feels any guilt about not having nice reads.

We can kill evantrees too, that works for me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 04:50 GMT
#815
Risen's DT claim is about as valid as my DT claim.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 05:49 GMT
#828
On March 25 2012 14:14 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 13:52 Mattchew wrote:
so if risen is telling the truth im like 3 times confirmed town, and if hes not im like 4 times confirmed town


stop that. No one is confirmed day 2 barring incredibly weird circumstances.


shut up GreYMisT stop lying, I'm confirmed

GreYMisT is a liar and should be ignored
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 05:50 GMT
#829
also this is Risen

[image loading]
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 07:10 GMT
#836
On March 25 2012 15:06 Sinensis wrote:
Which, get a clue, WBG is not pro-town.


I am the towniest town who ever towned, biatch.

I caught you guys a scum and you guys are such ingrates. See if I find you any more scum! I see how I'm appreciated around here.


On March 25 2012 15:37 Risen wrote:
Mods when I reach majority can we prematurely end the day? Will speed this game up.


nice scum response...let's limit the discussion so we can't find your scumbuddies today?

try again noob!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 07:56 GMT
#838
Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position)


LOOOOLLL

That is by far the funniest thing I've ever seen anyone say in a mafia game
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 20:35 GMT
#898
On March 26 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 04:41 chaoser wrote:
On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote:
can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first?

for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town"

2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner.

If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch.
if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him.
if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM
if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day


I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first


Once again, this doesn't take into account the OP. Are you not reading or are you purposefully being ignorant? If acro flips scum or miller, we DON'T KNOW if risen is town or not. So we would not be saving a townie or a lynch. We would still be in WIFOM.

Where you are wrong is there being a scum DT because being scum is being an alignment detective (therefore its redundant )and there are no ways of finding out roles. Risen was in no risk of being actually lynched (which is why its retarded that he DT claimed) being that only greymist and wbg were pressuring him.
I believe there is next to no (logical) chance that scum would take a gambit this large with both being scum (especially with acro being a 1st time player).

we should be lynching acro before risen out of the 2.


If you're town you should probably shut up, because my god all of your posts are utterly horrible.

Hell, they're worse than mine, because some of the things you say have convinced me you must be trolling; I think no one could ever be THAT stupid. But then I'm still confused because you still seem to believe the garbage you're spouting. At least you know for sure when you read some of my posts that I'm actually trolling.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 20:39 GMT
#902
On March 26 2012 05:33 Risen wrote:
The only reason this all started is b/c I was convinced wbg was shooting me. I didn't receive a PM saying someone protected me, which means he was bullshitting the entire time. He pretty much flushed out the town dt b/c I had to get out the word that my check on acro was scum (I'm assuming he has a list of what everyone is, or he caught onto the fact that I used the word detect a million times in my day 1 posts)

It's my fault I fell for his night-shot claim, and I feel bad for it. I'm sorry, but once the cat was out of the bag I felt the only way to give town a fighting chance was to force the 10-3 following my lynch (again, I still think it's more logical when you think about it to lynch acro, but apparently I'm wrong)


You've scumslipped every time you've been in an exchange with...well, anyone. That's pretty sad, since half the time it was me pressuring you.

For the record, I WAS roleblocked, and my kill of Risen was prevented. No one counterclaimed roleblock; you can actually believe me on this one.

That's one of at least a dozen reasons to lynch Risen.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 20:45 GMT
#907
On March 26 2012 05:39 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:33 Risen wrote:
The only reason this all started is b/c I was convinced wbg was shooting me. I didn't receive a PM saying someone protected me, which means he was bullshitting the entire time. He pretty much flushed out the town dt b/c I had to get out the word that my check on acro was scum (I'm assuming he has a list of what everyone is, or he caught onto the fact that I used the word detect a million times in my day 1 posts)

It's my fault I fell for his night-shot claim, and I feel bad for it. I'm sorry, but once the cat was out of the bag I felt the only way to give town a fighting chance was to force the 10-3 following my lynch (again, I still think it's more logical when you think about it to lynch acro, but apparently I'm wrong)


You've scumslipped every time you've been in an exchange with...well, anyone. That's pretty sad, since half the time it was me pressuring you.

For the record, I WAS roleblocked, and my kill of Risen was prevented. No one counterclaimed roleblock; you can actually believe me on this one.

That's one of at least a dozen reasons to lynch Risen.


I'm really confused by your play. You know I'm going to flip town DT, why are you going so hard on me being scum?

I don't know for sure what you'll flip but based on analysis alone it's 95% scum.

I've never seen you act this way in all your games as town. In the game I cohosted with Incog where you were a medic you at least responded to and used reason and logic. Here you're just running around seeding as much chaos as possible like a chicken with its head cut off.

Literally I haven't found one thing you've said in the last three pages that makes sense for a townie.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 20:57 GMT
#912
On March 26 2012 05:45 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 04:41 chaoser wrote:
On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote:
can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first?

for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town"

2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner.

If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch.
if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him.
if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM
if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day


I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first


Once again, this doesn't take into account the OP. Are you not reading or are you purposefully being ignorant? If acro flips scum or miller, we DON'T KNOW if risen is town or not. So we would not be saving a townie or a lynch. We would still be in WIFOM.

Where you are wrong is there being a scum DT because being scum is being an alignment detective (therefore its redundant )and there are no ways of finding out roles. Risen was in no risk of being actually lynched (which is why its retarded that he DT claimed) being that only greymist and wbg were pressuring him.
I believe there is next to no (logical) chance that scum would take a gambit this large with both being scum (especially with acro being a 1st time player).

we should be lynching acro before risen out of the 2.


If you're town you should probably shut up, because my god all of your posts are utterly horrible.

Hell, they're worse than mine, because some of the things you say have convinced me you must be trolling; I think no one could ever be THAT stupid. But then I'm still confused because you still seem to believe the garbage you're spouting. At least you know for sure when you read some of my posts that I'm actually trolling.


hmmm i have agreed with where you have called people stupid before and had an idea of why. I don't know why you think I am an idiot now.

Care to explain?


Mostly in the post I quoted it's the idea that you should never lynch a claimed role first. This is precisely why TL towns get destroyed by fake claims and why I suggested in the postgame of C9++ that the scum team should have fake claimed cop. Anyone can claim anything at anytime. You don't just believe it solely based on them saying they're what they say they are when under pressure.

In fact, the simple way that Risen says "lynch acro, and if I'm wrong lynch me" tells you that he's mafia. He doesn't outline the reasons he's a townie. He doesn't give the breadcrumb of his check (he says he breadcrumbed his role...which anyone can do, look at my claim from Mini X) and so he could just be making shit up. Acro has acted far more town-like to the pressure and by all means he looks town. But risen doesn't even consider the fact that acro could be miller or framed until it's pointed out that it looks bad that he isn't considering it. Then he panics and overcompensates by saying "oh you should've claimed miller" which is just hilariously bad.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 21:01 GMT
#915
Because most townies don't have a role to claim!

You can't be town, if you were town you'd actually see the gaping holes inyour own logic.

That's why when one person claims to have a check on another, after taking suspicion, you kill the guy who analysis determines is more likely to be scum. As of now there is no case on Acro and the best case is Risen. Risen claiming DT doesn't change that one bit.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 21:02 GMT
#917
On March 26 2012 06:01 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:45 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 04:41 chaoser wrote:
On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote:
can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first?

for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town"

2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner.

If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch.
if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him.
if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM
if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day


I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first


Once again, this doesn't take into account the OP. Are you not reading or are you purposefully being ignorant? If acro flips scum or miller, we DON'T KNOW if risen is town or not. So we would not be saving a townie or a lynch. We would still be in WIFOM.

Where you are wrong is there being a scum DT because being scum is being an alignment detective (therefore its redundant )and there are no ways of finding out roles. Risen was in no risk of being actually lynched (which is why its retarded that he DT claimed) being that only greymist and wbg were pressuring him.
I believe there is next to no (logical) chance that scum would take a gambit this large with both being scum (especially with acro being a 1st time player).

we should be lynching acro before risen out of the 2.


If you're town you should probably shut up, because my god all of your posts are utterly horrible.

Hell, they're worse than mine, because some of the things you say have convinced me you must be trolling; I think no one could ever be THAT stupid. But then I'm still confused because you still seem to believe the garbage you're spouting. At least you know for sure when you read some of my posts that I'm actually trolling.


hmmm i have agreed with where you have called people stupid before and had an idea of why. I don't know why you think I am an idiot now.

Care to explain?


Mostly in the post I quoted it's the idea that you should never lynch a claimed role first. This is precisely why TL towns get destroyed by fake claims and why I suggested in the postgame of C9++ that the scum team should have fake claimed cop. Anyone can claim anything at anytime. You don't just believe it solely based on them saying they're what they say they are when under pressure.

In fact, the simple way that Risen says "lynch acro, and if I'm wrong lynch me" tells you that he's mafia. He doesn't outline the reasons he's a townie. He doesn't give the breadcrumb of his check (he says he breadcrumbed his role...which anyone can do, look at my claim from Mini X) and so he could just be making shit up. Acro has acted far more town-like to the pressure and by all means he looks town. But risen doesn't even consider the fact that acro could be miller or framed until it's pointed out that it looks bad that he isn't considering it. Then he panics and overcompensates by saying "oh you should've claimed miller" which is just hilariously bad.


I think your argument ignores the fact that C9++ didn't have an all-knowing third party pressure.


Nice assumption, moron.

I'm not all knowing.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 25 2012 21:13 GMT
#921
The fact that Risen has to jump to unqualified assumptions about everything in order for his story to make the least bit of sense in his own head should be enough for any reasonable person to determine that he's scum.

In fact, his own logic is self contradictory. He claims that I am all-knowing and that I somehow knew he was a DT. At the same time he claims he knows that it would be in my best interest to keep town power and mafia power roughly equal. (I do believe I said it myself, though why would Risen take me seriously?)

By that logic, I insist that it means I have a vested interest in finding scum because town is already down by 4 players. Thus, it makes it FAR more likely that Risen is scum, not town (a fact Risen accidentally supported himself).

Yet, Risen resorts to the untenable argument that he must be town because I want town/mafia power to be equal. If I knew risen were town I wouldn't be pushing him for lynch at this point, by that logic. I'd much rather kill scum.
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