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WBG: why are 3/4 of your posts obsessed with killing Greymist or asserting that he is scum? | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:53 Risen wrote: Pretty sure he's telling scum not to rb him so he can shoot me. Also, should I roleclaim? Everyone seems to want me dead. Firstly, I didn't think you were scum, but now you're panicking irrationally and WBG tells me that is a scumtell. Secondly, why should we believe you if you roleclaim? Thirdly, lets say you roleclaim. Why the hell should that stop a CRAZY IMMORTAL 3RD PARTY from killing you? | ||
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If you think that roleclaiming will save you, you have to roleclaim IN TIME for whoever you think is going to shoot you in the face for failing at logic TO CHANGE THEIR ACTION. But yeah, go ahead and call the vigilantes off by roleclaiming some important blue role and have the mafia shoot you in the face. ![[image loading]](http://robinbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/double-facepalm1.jpg) | ||
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On March 25 2012 07:06 Risen wrote: I still think you're one of the scummiest players in the game. Oh ffs. You're actually going to make me counter that POS case you posted? Okay, here goes. Can you please promise not to shoot me until I actually post? | ||
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Now on to your bullshit case, because I might as well get rid of this crap. On March 23 2012 06:01 Risen wrote: Everything about this post screams emotional overreaction to being voted with something that is clearly not a serious vote. Yeah. Had I mentioned this is my first game? Oh yeah. Only like umpteen billion times. For reasons I can't put my finger on, I get the feeling from this post that Acro is either horrible, horrible town, or trying to just talk with mattchew so they can generate discussion that looks pro-town. Makes me feel like Acro and mattchew are both scum. I like to think I have improved my play during the course of this game, but if you like to call me horrible horrible town, go ahead. The important part in this post was, and I will reiterate: is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. Now that I have achieved that, I would like to add that I want to live past the first night too. I like your read on Mattchew, though. Since then he has been somewhat useful, but I'm still suspicious of him. I hope you are too. In fact, why not kill him instead of me, in the offchance that you are what you're claiming to be. Even more what? How is this any kind of anything except Mattchew throwing one-liner accusations? I stand by my initial defense: I was being trolled by a fake vote and one-liner accusations. Even Mattchew, the chobo throwing them has backed off. We'll get to your WIFOM about Mattchew and me in a minute. Entire post is about how he wants to lynch Mattchew... but the last line is telling. He's clearly giving himself an out for when he decides miraculously not to vote mattchew because "someone more scummy" has come along. Oh ffs. I'm not allowed to tell the truth anymore? I should lie just so my case is stronger? I thought lying was a scumtell? I actually DID (and do) think his post just prior to me posting my case was actually quite townie, but that does not exculpate him from all the other crap he posted, which was SCUMMY AS HELL. My scumometer looked like this: [---------------------------------------|----] and as a small addendum at the end of my post I stated that he had done something useful, so my scumometer looked like this: [--------------------------------------|-----] If it's not reasonable to post what I truly think, then yeah, just kill me now, because I WANT OUT. I have been calling everything exactly like I see it from the get go. Yay. Thank you for your honesty here. See, I'm not all bad. My feeling: [r]scum[/r] He's the most scummy read I have thus far. WHY? Have you read anything by Gumshoe? AT ALL? Anyway. Somewhat later you say: On March 23 2012 06:30 Risen wrote: MrZentor pretty much made my case against mattchew/acro, but as someone pointed out earlier those two were already major targets, so it's not very impressive that he's decrying them. How and where does MrZentor make any case at all against me? Please point me to it, because it has magically disappeared from his filter. If your ENTIRE CASE is based on these posts in which he is DEFENDING ME, then WTF?!!!! [spoiler MrZentor to the rescue!!!] On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote: Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. He then votes for Mattchew. Lyter defends Acrofales. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. On March 22 2012 06:13 MrZentor wrote: Ooooooo, a fun project to occupy my time while people post more things! This post, especially the part in bold, made me think he was innocent. His reason for overreacting seems genuine. He also deflects gumshoe's attack by clearly explaining his thought process and shows why he thinks gumshoe look scummy. Gumshoe skips the day post, says we should talk about policy, doesn't discuss policy, asks some questions, and then accuses the person who is easiest to attack, Acrofales. My guess as to why he skipped the day post is that he got a powerful role(blue or scum) and was excited to use it. He is either a lazy townsperson with a powerful role or scum. Overall, I think he seems a little less scummy than Mattchew. [/spoiler] Next post. I will call it WIFOM: The Phantom Menace (yes, it is bad enough to get a new trilogy title). I am going to try to follow your logic, but feel free to correct me if I err at some point. On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote: Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would. Policy vote the guy who posted huge swaths of analysis on players and is contributing? K. I wasn't 100% on mattchew, and after reading this post it's pretty much confirmed that acrofales is scum in my mind (or he's just a townie who's harming us more than he's worth). If you had bothered reading anything after my initial analysis (which I'm sure you did, and then just decided to not pay attention to because it helps make you look like you're contributing) you would know why I voted for Mattchew. This is the only part that I can almost agree with, but I have already responded. It is your COMPLETE overreaction to my frustration at the number of retarded cases made against people. Most of your analysis was not as bad as risk.nuke's case against Greymist, or Sinensis' case against MrZentor, but you managed to spam up the entire thread with it, so I put you in the list. You then went WTFBBQ I DON'T WANT TO BE POLICY LYNCHED. While in the same post I proposed NOT to policy lynch, but lynch Mattchew instead. After I posted my analysis on you, I posted this. Seems to be working in collusion with you, but you don't need him to be working with you in order for you to find a post that will allow you to change your mind. I can't even follow this reasoning, but lets try. Assume Acro is mafia. If Acro is mafia, then he will change his mind about Mattchew. There is SO much wrong with this. Firstly it only works if Mattchew is also mafia, because if he's not then why the hell would I bother changing my mind. Secondly you are WIFOMing that the only possible reason that I could change my mind about Mattchew is because I am mafia. EVEN if Mattchew is not mafia. WTF?! Then I made this post. With supporting evidence in the form of... Which, to me, looks like someone scrambling to discredit me. Then again, someone who is town would be just as freaked out. My vote would still be on him had you not made that horrible, HORRIBLE post. How about instead of saying, oh hey his analysis is weak, you say, oh hey his analysis is weak for X, Y, Z reasons? I'll tell you why, because you're scum just looking to discredit me quickly. Yeah, I shit up the thread with all my posts and should have spoilered them into one post, but you're construing that as mafia play? You're attempting to say that someone who is posting analysis (whether I went about it in the correct manner) is playing scummy? Then what is town to you? Policy lynch someone who is posting analysis that can easily be looked back at day2,3, etc? Or lynch someone who is contributing nothing useful and is just tunneling the shit out of Mattchew (then calling out people who vote for him with "shoddy reasoning" that he never points out)... What the fuck am I reading here?! Anyway, I need to post this now, so I will analyze this properly in the followup post in 10 minutes or so, but basically this is you getting stuck in your own convoluted WIFOM thinking. Please drink the cup with the poisoned wine. FOR ALL OUR SAKES. I was wrong earlier. You don't need to get off Mattchew, you just need to start up the wagon a little bit and then discredit anyone who agrees that Mattchew's play was scummy. I think Mattchew overreacted to your focus on him if he's town and he's going to have to be looked at by someone. You can sit back and say, "oh I don't like your reasoning. You're doing that for the wrong reason." etc, etc, etc and bully people off of him and onto another wagon. So Mattchew, maybe you're town and acro is using you as his "oh I contributed and I'm covering my tracks by calling the other people who vote for him bad" it's an OMGUS waiting to happen (he actually did OMGUS me with his mentioned post). Then again, maybe you're scum and acro's plan for people to get off you isn't going to work out and you're lynched. I don't want to help acro in either of those situations, I want him dead. I think mattchew is a prime target for checking tonight, but not for lynching. As always, feel free to point out why you disagree with this post with a reasoned analysis. You'll note that I haven't called a single person out in this thread when they were suspicious of me if they had their opinion backed up. I probably messed up somewhere in here, and you can point out where I did so, and I can respond with a reasoned post explaining more thoroughly anything you have issue with. That's how town plays, that's how town wins. We post and post and post and explain ourselves until we see someone who's fucked up their web of lies. Acro, your posting doesn't have any substance. That makes this an easy decision for me since I never actually placed my vote on Mattchew. ##vote Acrofales Yeah, this will also be dealt with in the followup post. | ||
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Curu: why is Layabout still posting here. I think the rules say a single *polite* goodbye post. This is his second, impolite namecalling. Even if he's right. | ||
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On March 25 2012 07:30 Risen wrote: AFAIK I said anyone who jumped on Greymist for his joke is clearly acting scummy. No town player would do that. I then look at risk's post and say that Greymist did in fact have some scummy posting. Then when Greymist asks me if I think he's scum I say no, I do not think you are scum. Then layabout goes, lolderp imma vote greymist peace bitches. Clear scum move in my mind, instantly place my vote on him since people won't vote acro. Feel free to point out anything I missed. OMG YOU MADE SENSE. I am amazed and astounded. | ||
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WBG: are you proud of me? | ||
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On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote: Then I made this post. With supporting evidence in the form of... Which, to me, looks like someone scrambling to discredit me. Then again, someone who is town would be just as freaked out. My vote would still be on him had you not made that horrible, HORRIBLE post. How about instead of saying, oh hey his analysis is weak, you say, oh hey his analysis is weak for X, Y, Z reasons? I'll tell you why, because you're scum just looking to discredit me quickly. Okay. Fine. I have pointed out exactly why your analysis is weak. At least, in the case of me. Frankly, the reason why I didn't post it in the first place is because there is SO MUCH weak analysis (at this point it hadn't been bad and ficticious like Sinensis/risk.nuke's was): you have 4 pages of filter and it is ALL just as weak as your case on me. Stating reasons for everything would take DAYS and is frankly not worth it. It's not a scumtell to refuse to wade through pages and pages of trash. Yeah, I shit up the thread with all my posts and should have spoilered them into one post, but you're construing that as mafia play? You're attempting to say that someone who is posting analysis (whether I went about it in the correct manner) is playing scummy? Then what is town to you? Policy lynch someone who is posting analysis that can easily be looked back at day2,3, etc? Or lynch someone who is contributing nothing useful and is just tunneling the shit out of Mattchew (then calling out people who vote for him with "shoddy reasoning" that he never points out)... NOWHERE did I say that was Mafia play. I said it was BAD play and it ABSOLUTELY 100% IS. I never thought you were scum and to be honest still don't. You're just a terrible horrible atrocious townie. I think it's telling that the newest 3 pages of posts are basically the ENTIRE TOWN telling you you're horrible. I'm sorry to tell you, but it's true (no, I'm not trying to be liked here, just convince you that I am town). Btw, looking back at your pages and pages of dross is not going to help anyone on day 2 or 3. I was wrong earlier. You don't need to get off Mattchew, you just need to start up the wagon a little bit and then discredit anyone who agrees that Mattchew's play was scummy. WTFBBQ WHAT AM I READING? I spent the entire first day trying to convince people to vote for Mattchew. How the fuck am I in any position to discredit people who agree his play is scummy. I stand by my conviction that his play WAS scummy. I think Mattchew overreacted to your focus on him if he's town and he's going to have to be looked at by someone. You can sit back and say, "oh I don't like your reasoning. You're doing that for the wrong reason." etc, etc, etc and bully people off of him and onto another wagon. Do I really need to point out how topsy turvy this reasoning is? If Mattchew is indeed town and were to get lynched, I would be PRIME SUSPECT numero UNO. I was willing to TAKE THAT RISK, because I thought (I am reconsidering, see my analysis post this night. At the very least Gumshoe has passed him by on the scumometer) he was scum. Why would I try to bully people off his bandwagon. I spent the whole day trying to bully people ONTO his bandwagon. That failed, so I voted Nicolas in the hope of lynching a guaranteed modkill, and went to bed. So Mattchew, maybe you're town and acro is using you as his "oh I contributed and I'm covering my tracks by calling the other people who vote for him bad" it's an OMGUS waiting to happen (he actually did OMGUS me with his mentioned post). Then again, maybe you're scum and acro's plan for people to get off you isn't going to work out and you're lynched. I don't want to help acro in either of those situations, I want him dead. WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING? You list 2 out of the 4 possible cases and build some crock of bull WIFOM around it. You completely ignore the possibility that: 1. Acro is town and has a legit scumread on Mattchew. 2. Acro is town and so is Mattchew and Acro is barking up the wrong tree. Focusing only on 3. Acro is scum and is blaming an innocent townie 4. Acro is scum and is covering (wtf, where did I cover for Mattchew) his scumbuddy. ALL 4 cases can be WIFOM'd into the EXACT situation that occured. All I can give you is my word that it is either case 1 or 2. However, the fact that you IGNORE the perfectly viable possibility that I am TOWN leads you to completely false conclusions. I think mattchew is a prime target for checking tonight, but not for lynching. Given that he was not lynched, I agree with checking him. I believe I suggested that earlier tonight. As always, feel free to point out why you disagree with this post with a reasoned analysis. You'll note that I haven't called a single person out in this thread when they were suspicious of me if they had their opinion backed up. I probably messed up somewhere in here, and you can point out where I did so, and I can respond with a reasoned post explaining more thoroughly anything you have issue with. That's how town plays, that's how town wins. We post and post and post and explain ourselves until we see someone who's fucked up their web of lies. Acro, your posting doesn't have any substance. That makes this an easy decision for me since I never actually placed my vote on Mattchew. ##vote Acrofales My posts have had MOUNTAINS of substance. For a newbie I think I am doing pretty damned well. I just hope I have managed to convince you not to shoot a contributing townie. | ||
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Okay. Please don't vigi shoot me. G'night. | ||
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On March 25 2012 10:46 Risen wrote: Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch. Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position) Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks. Okay. WTF is happening in this thread. How does this logic make any sense? Even, once again, ignoring the two possibilities that you don't mention (both town and both scum): Acro is scum and Risen is town: best move lynch Acro. Risen is scum and Acro is town: best move lynch Acro. <--- WTF?! ##vote Risen Going sailing. Be back this afternoon late. | ||
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