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On March 24 2012 07:24 SamuelLJackson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time. How is that frustrating and has town really "collectively switched lynch targets 3 times"? Your frustration doesn't feel genuine to me
yes, yes they have.
1st was Oberyn, second was mattchew, and now we are onto evantrees or layabout.
its frustrating because if you read every time you make a statement in the thread where you say "X" is scum, over half the players just vote with you. Then you jump somewhere else and they follow right along.
On top of that I have risk who is convinced i wasnt joking when i said to lynch bugs, and I have bugs who someone thought was a good idea to give him an unkillable role.
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Layabout, please dont make me switch my vote to you after I complained about people switching votes.
Don't you know how that will look to WBG?
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On March 24 2012 07:35 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:28 Risen wrote:On March 24 2012 07:26 layabout wrote:
i am switching
##vote GreYMisT What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk, you're basing this off the words of an inconsistent wbg? zzzzzzzzzz No, i am basing it off of the need for town to get on the same lynch and the chance that he might actually be scum since oberyn and syllo seem to think he is.
Oh well if they think im scum
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Well in the light of Layabout's terrible voting reasons, terrible filter, and actually making choices based on what WBG says, Im going to have to vote for him,
Oh and also because me and him share a majority, and I reached it first.
Oberyn, you are not off the hook.
##Unvote
##Vote: Layabout
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On March 24 2012 07:50 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:44 GreYMisT wrote:
and actually making choices based on what WBG says, Im going to have to vote for him, That sir, is an untruth!
Fair enough, but the rest of my reasons are full of thruths
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Anyway I have to go eat. Hopefully you guys don't ruin my record while im gone.
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On March 25 2012 03:33 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Also @WBG were you bullshitting about having day checks? If you were not probably get his role name. Do you mind saying a letter from his role name plus the backwards position (from the end of the word to the begging) number which that letter is? So that mattchew can confirm you have checks. That is if you are feeling kind and generous <3
correct me if im wrong, but didnt you criticize me for even pretending to interact with WBG?
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On March 25 2012 04:03 SamuelLJackson wrote:
It's different when It's me because I know what I'm doing =)
Oh you
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On March 25 2012 04:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Why waste a dt check on greymist to tell us what we who weren't dropped as children already know. If I were a dt I'd check scummy lurkers and crumb the result.
/ignore risk.nuke
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On March 25 2012 05:18 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this.
WBG says Mattchew is town
WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass)
Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"!
Conclusion:
Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP
WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP
Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"!
Conclusion:
Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic)
WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this)
SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job.
No one in the game has said we can trust WBG, IDK where you are getting that from.
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On March 25 2012 05:47 Xatalos wrote:Where are you, gumshoe? I can't believe you have been offline for this long... Maybe you're just afraid to post more, since it seems like everyone forgot about you after you disappeared? There are other lurkers, but this seems like the most suspicious lurking so far. SamuelLJackson and GreYMisT, it seems like you both have been online, but why haven't you answered these matters I have been wondering about? Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 19:36 Xatalos wrote:
GreYMisT's suspicion about gumshoe at the start looked promising, but I have to ask, why did you then switch to Oberyn and layabout and forgot about gumshoe? In my opinion, gumshoe has become increasingly suspicious during the game, not the other way around. I don't think layabout was among the best lynch candidates, and definitely not Oberyn either (he even gave his opinion on every player without hesitation, which would hurt a Mafia player in the future, since he would have a harder time saving his teammates later). Also, SLJ, you are partly to blame about the layabout lynch, even if not intentionally. Why would you vote for him, encourage others to vote for him, then leave the matter be? Where did you exactly "tell everyone your case on layabout was shit"?
I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve.
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On March 25 2012 06:17 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:00 GreYMisT wrote:
I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve. You mean *from* gumshoe..? I don't think his first posts were all that suspicious either (bad town/Mafia, hard to say), but don't you think his attitude towards the layabout lynch was suspicious? And if you actually think gumshoe is merely a dumb townie, who would you prefer to lynch? Oberyn? I don't still see how he's so suspicious (especially over people like gumshoe, Mattchew, etc.).
yes i meant from gumshoe. I felt oberyn was suspicious yes, and was also suspicious of how all threats towards him simply dropped. It was not the same way with gumshoe.
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On March 25 2012 06:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:24 GreYMisT wrote:
yes i meant from gumshoe. I felt oberyn was suspicious yes, and was also suspicious of how all threats towards him simply dropped. It was not the same way with gumshoe. I think that was just because of his massive analysis post... Don't you think it was pretty townie? Who would you want to lynch, if not Oberyn?
Oberyn, maybe risen for buddying up to me and following what i do for no real reason other than to associate with me.
How many times do I have to say the following:
A) that was not a massive analysis post. That was a post with 1 or 2 snippets of thought about every player in the game. big difference.
B) that does not make you town.
Also aldeeran just saying X is scum, and coloring my name red does not make it so. if it did mafia would be a lot easier.
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On March 25 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think GreYMisT is colorblind, guys.
What a sad day.
GreYMisT how come you're trying to bus Risen now?
Im going to kill you in aperture mafia
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Curu, whose idea was it to give the unlynchable, unkillable role to wherebugsgo??
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On March 25 2012 06:48 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:37 GreYMisT wrote:
Also aldeeran just saying X is scum, and coloring my name red does not make it so. if it did mafia would be a lot easier. Technically, I didn't even color your name red. What I did do was fail in not voting for you last night.
Just cutting it off at the pass as it were.
Why am i scum again?
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On March 25 2012 10:46 Risen wrote:
Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not
If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch.
Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position)
Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks.
You are not confirmed town when/if acro flips scum
we do not know that mafia knows that acro is being lynched today or tomorrow 100%
Why even ask us to consider the fact that you will flip scum, if you are not?
This, in addition to your extremely defensive nature (during night might I add) leads me to believe you are scum.
##Vote: Risen
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On March 25 2012 13:52 Mattchew wrote:
so if risen is telling the truth im like 3 times confirmed town, and if hes not im like 4 times confirmed town
stop that. No one is confirmed day 2 barring incredibly weird circumstances.
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Alright guys I apoligize for not being present today. I had to move back into college, deal with a ton of aperture mafia stuff, and then play dota.
I've been trying to keep up with the thread through all of this and I retain my vote on risen. I will reread all that I missed and have an idea of where i want to move after the lynch.
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On March 26 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
If Risen actually is a Detective, he hasn't done a very good job at playing his role... He has created a ton of spam and confusion, undermined the birth of useful discussion, and made us talk about only himself and Acrofales for countless pages. All this seems like Mafia play, although I don't understand why he wants to get himself killed, regardless of his alignment (and him being Detective doesn't even prove that Acrofales is Mafia, so what's the point?). All I can think of is that he is A) a really anti-town Detective or B) a really reckless Mafia player.
There are 8 votes on him already, so I doubt this bandwagon will turn around in these remaining 20(?) hours. So, the wisest move would be to change the focus from arguing about Risen's questionable logic to analyzing the events of the day 1 lynch and especially night 1 kills.
MrZentor already had a good take on DoYouHas earlier: most likely he was killed because of his focus on Alderan or risk.nuke (probably not both, but you never know). He was also quite calm and analytic, which is bad news for Mafia, so it's not 100% certain that Alderan or risk.nuke is Mafia. Still, I would keep a close eye on these two.
Acrofales also made a post about SamuelLJackson, although I don't really agree with his conclusion - the blue kill was most likely just a surprise bonus, and what Mafia really wanted was to stop him from speaking. The reason for that could be any or all of the following: A) he had solid, calm analysis B) he was an experienced player C) he suspected GreYMisT and chaoser. Any one of these reasons would make for a good Mafia kill, and the possible combination of them all would make a very necessary Mafia kill. Think about it: if I was GreYMisT or chaoser and I saw some veteran like SamuelLJackson coming after me, I would want him dead right away. But certainly his experience alone would have made him a good target.
(By the way, gumshoe, how long have you been offline? 3 days? Since nobody else seems interested in you, I'll just leave you on my watch list, but you better do something useful once you reappear from your lurking. Same with evantrees - this guy hasn't really contributed anything yet! Is he aiming for a world record on lurking or something? Try to at least appear useful or you're merely a bandwagon-hopping voting machine...)
You can't analyize night kills. Too much WIFOM.
I personally am suspicious of risk.nuke. What he is doing seems exactly like what happened for the majority of election mafia. For those of you who had not read that game Risk made a case on me day1, and then relentlessly pushed it down everyone's throats. The difference in these 2 instances is that in that game his reasons were somewhat founded. Anyone who actually reads the case on me this game by him will see it is almost completely based on my "Lying" about my joke at the start of the game. My feeling is that he is trying to emulate his play from election mafia, in an attempt to appear so aggressive that he has to be a townie.
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