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##Vote Kita for the elected role I've yet to read the description of. | ||
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Could someone explain why Velinath is overwhelmingly being voted? I feel like I'm missing something. VE's role came from the haunted 2 role suggestion post game. There might be others in there to give us an idea what we might be dealing with. Look for anything that is posted that doesn't naturally fit in a post. That is the easiest way to identify if there is sleeper cell communication going on in the thread. On March 17 2012 08:01 GreYMisT wrote: Also among you are some villains from your past I found through the rift. At one point, kenpachi randomly posts a picture of Mussolini (aka a WaW2 villian). Why did you decide to use this image? On March 18 2012 11:11 Kenpachi wrote: What fake claim did you recieve? Is it public knowledge that mafia are recieving fake claims? On March 17 2012 15:10 Kenpachi wrote: Well shit, thanks Mods. I have to do real analysis to carry these noobs. I wonder, is it possible to post this as town with a straight face? Also, why out of any player in the game are you giving the item to the player that is confirmed non-town? Do you not have the town's best interest in mind? On March 17 2012 10:17 MidnightGladius wrote: While I'm waiting for dinner: -Filters- Never trust the guy who provides the filters. On March 17 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote: Its tempting to believe this because Kenpachi does this every game :O, any thoughts? Bluelightz, are your biggest concerns honestly kenpachi townie claims, sinani's lurking and cwave's lack of posts? You nearly have two pages of posts on your own and they are all completely empty. On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote: Right, first things first: I believe Drazerk is town. -_- On March 17 2012 14:35 sinani206 wrote: Also, I want to give Wheatley to Drazerk, as he is pretty much confirmed town. -_- On March 19 2012 00:09 Hassybaby wrote: We're talking about lurkers, and totally ignoring kita? Are you accusing me of being a lurker? I'm carefully observing the thread and posting when its beneficial to me? First day of spring break + travel + holiday weekend = no time On March 19 2012 00:10 Hassybaby wrote: Oh yeah, forgot this bit ##Vote: kitaman27 I'll assume that's an election vote. On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote: Because I am town. Same as I was in Kaller. Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town -_- For the lynch, Drazerk seems perfectly reasonable. He says himself that he is targetting down the best players in the thread because they are the biggest threats. Biggest threats to who? The barlog? Scum or third party, he's not going to help town at any point and his story is changing every few hours. The anti-town factions obviously won't be shooting him at night as he will always be discussed for the lynch and serve as a distraction. ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:35 Kenpachi wrote: HOLY FUCK YOU JUST PAINTED YOURSELF SCUM IN 1 POST. LOL lol hai. What was your fake claim? | ||
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On March 19 2012 05:24 gonzaw wrote: Ehm, so what do you think about Foolishness rhymes? Do you think they are a legit post restriction or bullshit? They are rather  Curious.  Another game comes to  Mind. To be Frank, I'm Always suspicious of people WhO hope to mislead us with Major distractions such as these. Food5 | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:07 phagga wrote: Why was it beneficial for you to wait so long with posting? A lot of your quotes were made quite some time ago. Hmm? Not saying it was beneficial. I wasn't home all day with 6 hours of travel, St. Patricks Day and a dead harddrive. Just saying I'm not lurking On March 19 2012 06:07 gonzaw wrote: You are a little late there Maybe if you use a defeatist attitude like that. On March 19 2012 06:07 gonzaw wrote: Also, why do you want to elect me? What do you think about me? Similar mindframe with myself? Or it was completely random. On March 19 2012 05:55 Drazerk wrote: Oh cool I have majority never mind I am a village idiot with a day vig shot Cheers for playing Right, the Village Idiot who claims before the deadline?  | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.digitalmediatree.com/library/image/12/beautiful_mind_2.JPG) Looking at his zelblade analysis, I scratch my head and wonder if a scum player could really come up with a case that crazy. I'm confused by his insitance that cyber is scum based on his lack of posts, but his anti-terrorist stance is more than enough to win me back over. Playing with him as scum in Resistance, he was pretty aggressive and he openly pushed his objectives. This was the only post that set off any alarms, I'd be interested in hearing his reasoning for discreditting Gonzaw. On March 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives. Vel's posts have been pretty reasonable. Nothing groundbreaking, but I like his comment about wanting to control the outed third party for his kp, even if its a bad idea. He is pretty open with sharing his opinion and seems to get annoyed by things from a town midframe. I can't say I favor one player over the other, which isn't very helpful being the deciding vote, but I'll go with Velinath. | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:44 Kenpachi wrote: huh. #1 reading it seems. my reads? Kitaman is scum Wiggles is Town. Could you explain why you decided to give your item to the player that claimed non-town? Also, could you explain what your "fake claim" entails? On March 19 2012 08:14 Velinath wrote: It's kind of like an inventor, but limited. Basically, I can give items to players. These items are essentially equivalent to roles, but they're one-shot. I also can't just give items out to everyone; I'm limited in how many I can distribute. Limited per day? Or overall? Or both? What exactly do we have to work with? | ||
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On March 19 2012 11:59 Grackaroni wrote: I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons.... ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/2iixxea.jpg) Working on a post. Not sure if I'll post it when I'm done or at the deadline. | ||
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/ragequit My new hard drive arrived today so I'm currently reinstalling windows. I've been having to fight over the family computer for the last two days, which is always a struggle. I got kicked off before I could write anything worth saying earlier. Hopefully as soon as my laptop gets all set up in a couple hours I'll be back to normal. | ||
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Blazinghand getting shot over Velinath somewhat confuses me. Why is the runner up getting shot, rather than the player who has access to distributing pro-town powers among the members of town? The only reason I can think of Kenpachi having a GMarshal fake claim would be if he is the third party planar dragon. If that is the case, I don't think he should be today's lynch as we already used yesterday to eliminate a third party player. MidnightGladius, why are you claiming vanilla town day one? Was it simply an attempt to be elected? I'll mention my annoyance at the no flip again because I like to complain. On March 19 2012 22:30 Sbrubbles wrote: @Veli, can you tell us what items are for sale? There's reason to suspect there are 5 (well, now 4) portal guns around, which (if we believe Drazerk) show what items a person has. If someone is found to have one item from this list, it would be a good lead for town. Could you explain what you mean here Sbrubbles? Also, who are you suspicious of right now, besides kenpachi? A lot of your focus this game is on mechanics, rather than scum hunting. I'm considering the following people for lynch today: Mr. Wiggles On March 17 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote: 3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument Draz flat out claims that Wiggles has a different alignment as him and Wiggles completely ignores this. I know from my perspective, that if someone tells the thread that I'm scum or third party that I'm going to be refuting the claim 100% and going hard after him. When posting his reasoning for voting, he hardly even references draz's bizzare claim. In fact, at one point, he even starts to back off the lynch: On March 18 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, I forgot I wanted to write in that post, but it might not be the best idea to lynch Drazerk anymore after his claim. Are you really willing to give a pass to a player who essentially claims they used an item to prove that you are scum? You argue that a kp might be better, but that is one less kp the mafia have to worry about and if no one shoots him or draz survives the hit, then we get to waste another day dealing with him. You buy his rage core claim after he claims to use an investigative item on you making you look bad? In addition, you never suggest an alternative for the lynch. When sharing his few reads that he does provide, he always gives reasons that make a player look good and bad, rather than committing strongly one way or another. The strongest read he does provide is a null read. On March 18 2012 04:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: gonzaw, so far I think that you're asking a lot of questions and posting actively, which is good. However, you're somewhat inundating the thread with them, and that means that a lot of them end up unanswered or forgotten. On March 20 2012 06:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote: On Zephird: I don't like his early posting, as it mostly consists of spam and commentary. After that, though, it actually picks up a fair bit. Rather than openly share his opinion, he has to be questioned. Today he hasn't provided any suggestions for the day two lynch. Bluelightz The cases Bluelightz have provided us are essentially summaries, rather than analysis. He mentions that sinani is lurking, and quotes all three of cwave's posts, but doesn't explain why these things make them scum. In the town games I've read through, he is just as spammy, but at least he is willing to openly share his opinion. Today he wants to lynch sinani who is apparently already marked for death and kenpachi for not explaining his role (which he states is not allowed). How can kenpachi be his number one lynch candidate if he hasn't even read through his filter? As far as his opinions, they completely lack resolve. He likes wiggles for mayor, but switches off as soon draz paints him in bad light. He argues that draz is a threat to the town, but doesn't even vote for him in the end. blubbdavid I would be less willing to lynch him than the above two, but I thought he was worth mentioning anyway. On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote: Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town Why are you trying to use anti-town behavior to enforce the idea that you are town? Are you proud of the fact that you haven't done anything but spam the thread? I know you are somewhat competent based on your play in Newbie V, so why have all your posts been a bunch of one liners without sharing your opinions? | ||
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On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: hey kita! how are things? and a huge post too. lovely. Not bad. I was able to read through everyone's filter, but yours. You have a talent for posting so much that I don't care enough to read what you say, On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: However, I don't agree with your wiggles case. At least not with your reasoning. He basically calls draz "neutral scum survivor" in his post (for whatever reason). Thus, he doesn't feel like being accused of scumness (not third party doesn't rule out town) and your whole reasoning (at least here) crumbles. He could contribute more though. Do you think Wiggles is town? On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: all of you guys screaming how scum has 3 KP (C_C, Cwave and Rayzor). you might be right. But I find that quite high. Why? On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: Still, I think Dirk is not the best lynch target. Who is the best lynch target? On March 21 2012 03:40 Velinath wrote: Nobody's bought anything from the black market yet. Given the opportunity to buy a watcher/medic/whatever role, you decided not to? Why is that? You've used the black market to cover up the fact that you aren't scum hunting. Why aren't you being transparent with you scum reads like you promised when elected? | ||
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On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I want to ask, Kita, have you been reading the thread? Drazerk said that he used an item on me that said I'm not third party, which actually turned out to be one of his role abilities. So, I wouldn't fight against it, because it says I'm not third party, not that I'm scum. But that's not how the series of events unfolded. Draz didn't claim third party until later in the game. At that point, we only knew that he shot VE and that his kill flavor could possibly point to the barlog. Either way, if you're town and Draz is posting that he has used an item to determine that he has a different alignment than you, why does it take 24 hours for you to be voting for him? On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, that post was made after day 1, so a lot of my reads will still be mixed. I list the good and the bad things with people, because they are there. Then you have to make a judgement call of whether the bad things make them scummy, or the good things make them town. I haven't seen you call anyone scum yet, which is strange 100 hours into the game. | ||
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On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Anyways, I'm going to read over the thread some more, and hopefully decide who I want to lynch. Nothing?  On March 19 2012 23:54 Bluelightz wrote: On my meta, Lists!?!!!!?!?! Fine, since you sorta asked for it im gonna make a list Does it take three days? | ||
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That doesn't sound like a town role. | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons. Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot. So how does it work? 2 lemons = day vig shot? Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead? | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:17 Grackaroni wrote: Now back to you, who were you going to shoot? Probably Wiggles. :/ | ||
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On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Of all the things he's done this is the most telling one: I hope you notice that he's pointing out exactly the same thing as I did, that foolishness was feigning a posting restriction. The difference being in that I actually drew a conclusion from it, while kitaman just flutters around the issue, really making it nothing more than just a contentless post. If foolishness was scum, this makes sense as Kita would not want to draw too much attention, but someone would definitely call him out on it at some point, not having noticed the similarities. Even if I was wrong and foolishness was town, Kita would most certainly not want to call him out too hard because he'd be fearing the consequences of such an action. lol this is the most telling post? This shows how weak your case is. The conclusion you come to after Foolishness gets shot is that he is scum and I was soft-defending him? Is this honestly what you believe or are you just trying to come up with an explanation that fits your story? You spent almost all of your effort yesterday discussing post restrictions of all things. Foolishness trolling makes you come to the conclusion that he is scum? You're saying you've never seen him do it as town? Either way, Foolishness's alignment isn't even tied to mine. I'm not sure why you are trying to draw the connection. I think you're just jealous of how many pro-gamer names I was able to fit in. On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I removed a picture from that post to keep it readable. Notice once again the soft and indecisive tone from kitaman. He really does not want to be a major factor in the game. He basically writes this post to reach no conclusion while quietly pushing the Velinath candidate. I'm not sure on Velinath's alignment yet, but I am completely 100% certain that Blazinghand was town, which is why I voted him into office. Oh rly? Switching from my preferred vote (Gonzaw who it seems pretty likely was town) to being the deciding vote between Vel/Blazing means I don't want to be a factor in the game? If you're not sure on Vel's alignment then how is this even a point against me? How is my indecisiveness even any different than yours? If blazinghand was such a good candidate, why weren't you campaigning harder to switch my vote? Did you not want to be a major factor in the game? :p On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Continuing into day 2, kita is doing his best "I don't matter" impression. But hey, town expects him to actually push lynches today, because that's the pro-town thing to do. So how can kita keep having no influence over the thread while maintaining the illusion he's actually posting soemthing of value? Simple, just post a weak analysis on three random players. If I'm right and kita flips scum it doesn't even clear any of them because Kita's follow-up to this push has been so weak, so flailing, that there has never been any risk of any of them being lynched. And kita is hardly pushing his reads. In conclusion, I think kitaman is basically doing everything he can to remain useless in the game while appearing to be doing some work of any kind of value. I'm hurt Palmar. I always matter. You call my cases weak, but never comment what about them are actually weak. You say I'm useless, but attack me for calling Wiggles useless. What's with the double standard? What is your opinion on the alignment of the players that I listed? How can you say there is a lack of follow-up, when I'm clearly trying to coordinate a day vig, question wiggles when he doesn't provide a suspect as promised, and ask blue for a list he failed to deliver? On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote: Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff. Scum hate leading lynches. Kita was the first person to post an analysis and lead a lynch on day two. Therefore, Kita must be scum. QED. On March 21 2012 15:39 Grackaroni wrote: @Kitaman :Am I correct in saying that the reason you think Wiggles is scum is because he is a veteran and that he has been under-performing by not giving strong reads? (as opposed to newer players in here who are also not giving reads) Yes. | ||
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On March 22 2012 00:09 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I would hardly call what you're doing leading lynches. Your big post doesn't even come to a conclusion about who we should lynch. You just point out 3 guys you'd sort of be willing to lynch today, but ultimately the decision must come from someone else? Nope, if you took the time to read my post, I specifically mentioned that the third person on my lynch wasn't really an option for today, I just felt that his posting needs to be addressed. So if I'm not leading the lynch, are you? You were irrelevant on day one and your case comes 3/4th of the way through the cycle and has little value. At least my argument was legitimate and came at the beginning of the day. What is your opinion on wiggles? You dodged the question. On March 22 2012 00:09 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I would definitely murder the fuck out of you if I had a gun. No "probably" no building cases against multiple people and claiming to be sort of ok with killing them all. Nope, you're twisting my words to make me look bad. Overconfidence is a scum trait. I find it extremely hard to believe that out of all the players in the game, you think I'm the best lynch target. | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:16 MidnightGladius wrote: To be honest, Dirk, I don't really see the merits of your case against kitaman, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, as long as you're going to maintain at least this level of activity. Note that this also hinges on Jayjay's claim about one of your abilities: if his shot on Nisani does indeed occur in a way that is consistent with how he has been describing it, then I'm much more willing to believe you. So you're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after constructing a poor case, yet before you stated that you would support his lynch? Why does a anti-town action make you less willing to lynch him? | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:59 Jayjay54 wrote: so you ignore completely ignore his ability? I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment. Could you clarify what you are talking about? I'm not seeing any description of an ability in his filter. Not sure, his posts have all been mostly spam and he is going to be a headache to deal with during late game if he doesn't change his play. | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:04 Mementoss wrote: Hey guys I guess I have a lot of reading and figuring out to do, a lot more people to think about compared to the minis im used to haha. Will try to catch up to the thread decently fast, have been following the game lightly since it started. Hi Mementoss! :D | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:17 Jayjay54 wrote: yea, I didn't really put that well. I say his role is good and town favoured regardless of alignment, which is why I want him to be alive. I'm still not sure I grasp what you are saying. Are you aware of Palmar's role or something? Palmar, does what jayjay is saying mean anything to you? On March 22 2012 02:35 Hassybaby wrote: I can see the arguements about it being scumPalmar because of he relatively inactive nature this game, but to me it feels more like he has a role he doesn't find as interesting. This is about the weakest explanation I've ever seen. I just looked at your contributions today and they have been completely absent. What gives? Who is your lynch preference? You mentioned it was Palmar before. Now that he has revealed his identity, you think he is just apathetic? On March 22 2012 02:18 Zephirdd wrote: dont lynch dirkpalmar. He was just trying to play without having to worry with meta it seems. How in the world is this indicative of alignment? Palmar, what is your opinion of all these people jumping out of nowhere to defend you for incredibly weak reasons? | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:50 Jayjay54 wrote: yes I know stuff about his role, I posted that like three times now. I'm asking you to clarify how, if you're going to use it to soft defend him. I'm heading out to a Sabres game so I won't be around for the lynch tonight. -_- | ||
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I don't blame him though, who wouldn't want to be Kita. Nice lynch. Don't have much to add at the moment. | ||
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On March 23 2012 03:45 Grackaroni wrote: Kitaman, You're telling us that you know nothing about this cube? Nope, its awful cute though. On March 23 2012 04:43 Zephirdd wrote: Cube posted a link as if he was talking as kitaman ie. Forgot to log off the CC account, similar to how Palmar slipped his idendity. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I wasn't even home at that time since I was at a hockey game. Palmar, could you share your reads tonight? You disappeared. | ||
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On March 23 2012 08:07 zelblade wrote: Kitaman27 visited gonzaw night 1. Lord of the rift? No I'm not Lord of the Rift Are you claiming to have watched gonzaw on night one, but waited to claim until day three? | ||
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I'll explain why I was visiting gonzaw if its absolutely necessary, but I don't feel a role claim would help at the moment. jayjay, could you explain why sinani was supposed to die? | ||
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On March 23 2012 09:12 zelblade wrote: Nope I have delayed results and I didn't watch gonzaw, I tracked you. If you're a town tracker, why are you role claiming to out a player who you suspect isn't even scum? | ||
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On March 23 2012 10:57 Maverick32x wrote: Nisani is lieing. Willz visited Dirk last night. #vote Nisani So you're claiming tracker or watcher? :/ | ||
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If you received a lemon last night, please claim. If a certain player doesn't claim to have received one, then I think we have our lynch target for today. | ||
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On March 23 2012 19:54 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Haven't read the thread yet. I have a lemon. I gave my lemon to ghost and grack. If nobody claims to have given a lemon to dirk, then he probably obtained it from through a night kill. I also marked Palmar for death last night. He will die tomorrow night. The fact that he hasn't claimed it in the thread shows he is clearly hiding something as he is informed of his fate. Palmar seems content with a nisani lynch, which probably doesn't bode well. sinani surviving the hit because he happens to be a vet is too convenient. Been really busy, but this thread is really dead. What happened? | ||
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Since when can an inventor give himself an item? That would be incredibly imbalanced and there would never be any reason for a player to ever give an item to anyone else other than themselves. | ||
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On March 25 2012 02:47 Foolishness wrote: I read the filters of kita and mr. wiggles, and it's kita's posts that make me jiggle. For sure we can kill kita; get him out of this arena! Wiggles we can leave alive, he makes me giggle. 75% chance he picked to kill me because my name doesn't rhyme with giggle. On March 25 2012 06:05 Foolishness wrote: This is not the time for your head to be in space. Today's lynch has turned into a race. Greymist has wrote From the OP I quote: "If no one has a majority then no lynch will take place." On March 26 2012 05:28 Nisani201 wrote: I'll see if I can just make a color radiator that works on dead people. Out of all the imbalanced inventions we could come up with, we decide to come up with an alignment check item on dead people? Seriously? So imagine we find out cwave or cyber is mafia, do we analyze all four of their posts and figure out the remaining mafia team? I don't know about you guys, but I'd much rather find out the alignment of the players that are STILL ALIVE (see what I did there?) Additionally, why would we invent an item hints at the identiies of the sleep cell agents. If we go with some sort of list checker, it should return the number of anti-town players, not the number of scum or sleeper agents. Here are some options to consider: -An item to identify the perticipants in the black market. -A kp item that only affects anti-town players -A list checker -A revival item that will only revive town aligned players On March 25 2012 18:01 Jayjay54 wrote: kita, why did you kill our mason, when we already know that the mason QT is helpfull even with him being scum? That's not a good kill, but a stubborn kill. lol wut? | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:01 Nisani201 wrote: kitaman are you reading the thread at all? yep, your current invention shouldn't reveal information about sleeper agents. Additionally, I would make it so the results are revealed publicly or that the item automatically activates at a certain time or something. | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:09 Jayjay54 wrote: I love how kitaman jumps in here, makes a random comment, doesn't even bother to read which invention we made and critizes a wrong one. I did read what you suggested and am giving suggestions to improve it. Why so hostile? On March 26 2012 06:09 Jayjay54 wrote: I bet he just killed dirk for giggles and didn't care if there's a mason network or not. Correct, I don't care about a mason network if it is run by a scum player. On March 26 2012 06:10 Jayjay54 wrote: and why would that be? the chance that they already know each other is quite great. you want to remain hidden? That doesn't even make sense. I'm saying rather than outputing the number of sleeper agents and scum individually, that they should be in the same group. It limits the amount of information the anti-town parties have, which benefits town. What would be the downside? | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:28 Nisani201 wrote: Why wouldn't we want more information? Suppose we get 3 town 1 scum 0 sleepers as a result. Sleepers can now shoot or lynch into this pool knowing they have zero worry about hitting one of their own. Now suppose we get 3 town 1 scum/sleeper. Town still knows there is an anti-town player in this group, but the sleeper team is left in the dark. | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote: I am hostile, because you don't seem to give a shit. There's been like 2 pages discussions of possible items, if you read it, you'd know that the first and also current draft was to target 4 alive persons. thus render your suggestions useless. I'm giving my input? From what I can tell, the decision wasn't final. I don't see why I shouldn't explain why a suggestion is bad if it is being considered. My later suggestions to relate to the 4 person item. On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote: what you write now differs from what you wrote then... should not reveal information about sleeper agents <> combine scum and sleeper agent in list. lol, I never suggested a item that ignores the sleeper agents. I said it should group the sleeper agents into one anti-town category. On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote: also, I still think it's a good idea to see how many scums and sleepers there are, because we may use the voting behaviour more, if the group involves more scum and maybe less if there are sleepers... We use that information when the player flips. A 3/1/0 results or a 3/1 result isn't going to give us voting behavior results. | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:42 Jayjay54 wrote: do you think a mason network is helpful? why not leave dirk alive regardless of his alignmen? When do you ever leave a scum player alive because he has a pro-town role? I don't understand. | ||
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Like I said before, I gave my lemon to grackoni. Grackoni got shot and Palmar ended up with a lemon, when nobody claimed to have given him one. | ||
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On March 26 2012 08:15 Jayjay54 wrote: wait, if veli was invincible, how did he die? He was a vanilla townie. | ||
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Is your lynch instant or do you submit it at the end of the cycle? | ||
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On March 26 2012 09:47 MidnightGladius wrote: I am a member of House Chezinu, 5th Party, a mason group consisting of me, Maverick, and gonzaw. We are aligned with the town, and Maverick and gonzaw breadcrumbed this with the first letters of their sentences during the beginning of the game (I didn't bother, because I was lazy :D). You are town or you are aligned with town? Does the role pm confirm that the other players cannot have a different alignment than yourself? On March 26 2012 09:47 MidnightGladius wrote: Kitaman, I can't disclose the full contents of the QT per rules, but I can tell you that there seem to have been 3 active participants: Me, Velinath, and one other, who bought the Companion Cube and was offering to sell letters (1-shot PMs). However, none of these were purchased either. There could be more participants, but if so, they haven't posted yet. It might be a lot of work, but can you use time stamps and posting mannerisms to idenitify the third player's identity? | ||
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On March 26 2012 10:14 Jayjay54 wrote: going to bed now. totally exhausted. I'll hand my final thesis in tomorrow! Yay for master's degree! Congrats! Topic? | ||
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On March 26 2012 13:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hey kita, why did you announce before your shot was actually supposed to hit that you were aiming at Dirk? Wouldn't that make your shot a lot less likely to go through, due to the possibility of having someone protect him? He is informed during the day, which means he would by the time the shot resolves at night, he would already be aware and able to request protection. | ||
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On March 26 2012 22:24 Mementoss wrote: 1. I dont know how to exactly play in a game yet that has so many people its hard to analyse and its hard to not have your posts just buried. Having more than 1 post over a 5 day period is generally a good start. You played in Newbie V so you know the damage an inactivte/apathetic townie can cause, yet you continue to not post. How did you go from the most competant town player to a player who is afraid of posting? During post game pms, we talked about how establishing your innocence is so important, yet you have put absolutely no effort into doing so. On March 26 2012 22:24 Mementoss wrote: 2. I have a very pro town role, and have never played a pro-town role before. Only vanilla. I didn't want to fuck up in posting and ruin the town by getting myself killed.. "Hey guys, I'm blue. I'm going to claim at a completely random time just to let you know. I'll even add in some fear mongering to explain the consequences if you lynch me." On March 26 2012 16:16 Foolishness wrote: If everyone seems to agree that Kita should be shot in the knee then let's pile on the votes and get this guy cracked. ##Vote: Kitaman27 I liked your poems more when you were dead. On March 26 2012 19:42 Adam4167 wrote: This is of course assuming that Kita is the Lord of the riiiiiift, (something we cant know until he flips) otherwise he can probably die too. I can confirm that I am not Lord of the Riiiiiiift without flipping, but I won't role claim at this point. This third party talk needs to stop. -_- I did indeed shoot Palmar. He confirmed in the thread that he recieved a mod message indicating he would be shot. So are you guys saying that you think the scum doctor decided to heal the town aligned Palmar? Or that a town aligned doctor thought Palmar was the best heal? As a mason (a role which town apparently already has 3 of), he has chosen to take advantage of the newer players though quicktopic manipulation. As a smurf, nobody would think twice of this plan. In the thread, he has shown complete apathy. You really think I'm the better lynch Foolishness? Do you actually think I'm scum/sleeper or are you jumping on the third party nonsense wagon? Wiggles is still sketchy. He hasn't done anything this game. | ||
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On March 26 2012 17:36 phagga wrote: - we have 2 confirmed dead mafias, up to 2 mafias remain. How do you come to that conclusion? | ||
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On March 27 2012 01:11 blubbdavid wrote: And btw, Kita you still didn't state why you visited Gonzaw. Why do you hesitate? What are you waiting for? It's not necessary to reveal my role at the moment. | ||
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On March 27 2012 01:33 Dirk Hardpec wrote: This is a flat out lie, I've repeatedly said I received no indication I was going to be shot, or that I had been shot. Your case on wiggles is bullshit. You posted dumb shit throughout day 2. You need to die now. ##Vote Kitaman27 On March 25 2012 22:06 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I am however on fire. What do you think this means? That I'm giving you a big hug of flames and friendship? So how did you survive being set on fire? ugahqrjzhlyjzxoskp | ||
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On March 27 2012 02:49 Mementoss wrote: Alright guys I'm going to try to explain my role to the town, without saying anything illegal about my role PM. So basically here is what my role does. I have access to some kind of Computer Terminal which allows me to equip personality cores into it which then later give an option to use an ability at night. In my role PM I was given 2 personality cores. Lania's Night 1 action was to equip these cores. These cores were the following, Curiosity Core and the Morality Core. The Curiosity Core allows me to track someone, and the Morality Core allows me to use a medic ability. Only one ability may be used per night. Also I can equip new cores at night if they are given to me, however that is my action for the night. These are all the cores in the game. Morality, Curiosity, Anger, Dampening, Space, Intelligence, Adventure, and Factual. My role PM states that if all the cores are equipped something will happen, but it gives no clue to if its good for town or mafia or third party. I really have no idea what it does, but its not a part of my win-con so I didn't really look into that much. As fishing for items coulda got me killed/If I did equip all the cores, who knows what could happen. Night 2 I medic protected Dirk. Why? There generally seemed to be a lot of hostility towards Dirk, while I thought he was thought to be pretty townie, because of his role to be able to create this side thread. And the cases on him overall were pretty weak. It looked like he was attracting a vig shot, and I didn't want a townie to die. Maybe this is bad judgement? But it was the best idea I could think of, as that side QT could be a good way of getting information you couldn't in the thread otherwise/pass around scum hunting ideas/plans. What was your night three action? I assume you tracked someone? | ||
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On March 27 2012 02:57 kitaman27 wrote: What was your night three action? I assume you tracked someone? Ninja'd. There were three nights. What did you do on night two then? | ||
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On March 27 2012 02:48 Nisani201 wrote: This + the random letters makes me want to kill Kita. ##Vote Kitaman27 Palmar confirmed that I targeted him when he posted that I set him on fire. Mementoss confirmed that he was medic protected. I'm clearly not lying about my shot. You're going to lynch me over some random letters? You'd rather just lynch me than ask what they mean or wait to find out? | ||
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On March 27 2012 03:05 Nisani201 wrote: People have brought them up before. Please explain the random letters to me. It's information about my role, so when I claim in the future, someone can't accuse me of lying and say I'm making things up on the spot. | ||
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On March 27 2012 03:51 Mementoss wrote: Night 3: Medic Dirk. Kita claimed a shot, and Dirk survived.. You don't find it remotely suspicious that Palmar is interested in masoning you, a player with one games worth of experience, rather than someone like Foolishness? Could you provide all the chat logs that he had with you? | ||
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On March 27 2012 04:02 Sbrubbles wrote: 3) Mementoss says he protected Grack on night 2. I think it is bullshit. Mafia would never use more than 1kp to kill a person, I don't think cell has more than 1 kp (though admittedly, it's possible), there was no reason for town to shoot him and no reason (at least from my point of view) to roleblock him. Perhaps the cell and mafia kp overlapped? On March 27 2012 04:02 Sbrubbles wrote: 4) I'm not sure about the whole Kita/Dirk debacle. I think Kita sounds overall much more resonable and pro-town, so I would suggest lynch Dirk over him. Still, Kita, have you shot at Dirk again? Do you claim he'll die tonight? Naw. Ideally, he's not around tonight :/ | ||
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On March 26 2012 08:02 GreYMisT wrote: The Aperture Science Aperture Science Thermal Discouragement Beam (Paperscraps) Was Burned to Death! Since this town is going nowhere fast, I might as well claim. Paperscraps was my shot. (as well as palmar, willz22912 (opps), cwave, rayzor (two games in a row :D), and cc) I won't claim how my killing power works (don't bother asking), only that I really enjoy lighting people on fire ^_^ I managed to acquire this neat Color Radiator item and submitted the following players: Mr.Wiggles Kenpachi Dirk Hardpec blubbdavid 1 Town 1 Mafia 2 Sleeper Cell (assuming the item works as described) Remind me why I'm leading the voting -_- Additionally, I acquired one of the cores from the paper kill, which makes mementoss look fairly good as I don't see why a scum player would hold on to it for him. | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:09 Mementoss wrote: I have 2 questions however, Can you tell what the core does/the name of it or is it only me that knows when I acquire? The core is described as broken and it says it doesn't want to interact with me. Not sure what it does. On March 27 2012 05:09 Mementoss wrote: -And is now an appropriate time to explain the scrambled lettering? Nothing special, just wanted to have it ready later on if case any of the players who I found guilty decided to omgus me and accuse me of making up the check. I ended up claiming earlier than planned because it returned 3/4 anti-town. It's just a cryptogram: im lobf shot ps have cr | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:11 blubbdavid wrote: yesyes kita... and now what did you do with GONZAW? Friendship flames. | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:16 ghost_403 wrote: Also, kita, I'm assuming you win with town? Yes. | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:23 MidnightGladius wrote: So you're claiming Lord of Black Flames, a known 3rd-party role, and say you win with town? It's not a third party role. I'm town's being of great power. Doesn't really matter though. So long as we lynch all the mafia and sleepers, my alignment is irrelevant. | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Nisani claimed that he gave the color radiator to Hassy, who for some reason I thought was alive still. Hassy's death said he died because he was discouraged. Either you or Nisani are lying. If you have the color coordinator, either Nisani was lying about who he gave it to, or you're lying and you killed Hassy as well, or one of your team mates did. Paper killed Hassy, I killed Paper. I acquired the item. I can even provide the exact wording of the description nisani submitted if necessary. On March 27 2012 05:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, you should know that bread crumbing your role beforehand doesn't confirm anything about it. You played in Insane 2. I don't buy your excuses for making encrypted posts. Give us the key, so we can check them, if you want us to believe that. Like I said, it's just a cryptogram. You just substitute the letters. After I claim, this is honestly your biggest concern? Funny how blub complains about balance and wiggles calls me a liar right after I claim. From their perspective, if they are town, I've just provided 3 anti-town players. | ||
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On March 27 2012 06:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote: From my perspective, you could have killed up to four town players yourself already, and I have no intrinsic reason to trust you. It looked like either you or Dirk were headed for the lynch, and if you're scum, there's no reason not to lie and keep yourself alive for a couple more days. From your perspective, I could be scum after shooting my scum buddy Paperscraps? | ||
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On March 27 2012 06:07 Foolishness wrote: Kitaman, I said in a post that I really don't mind lynching Palmar, and putting him in a bind. Your arguements, I get the gist though I don't quite believe your list. I'm willing to leave you alive for now, I'm so kind! ##Unvote: Kitaman27 ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec So I'm a liar, but you're going to vote with me anyways? Thank goodness for your kindness. | ||
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On March 27 2012 06:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Why should we trust you? I've shot a scum player (possibly more than one based on the hidden flips), I was one of the first players to bring up a case against blue, and I've just provided the names of three anti-town players. More importantly, why should we trust you. Role claim? | ||
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On March 27 2012 07:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So you shot a mafia, made a case against a mafia, killed a whole bunch of people, most of whom were probably town, and provided a list of names with no reason to trust it when you're already on the chopping block. How does that prove you're not third party or sleeper cell and playing towards a different win condition again? I can't prove my role, other than claiming the flipped shots that can't be counter-claimed. I posted the results of nisani's invention when there wasn't a single player who knew I held the invention. You're asking a question that has no answer. What proof do you have that you're not sleeper cell or playing towards a different win condition? This game isn't about confirming players and their alignments, it about lynching the players most likely to being anti-town based on the evidence available. | ||
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On March 27 2012 13:06 MidnightGladius wrote: Kita, I'm kind of annoyed that you used the Color Radiator yourself instead of giving it to someone more likely to have the town's best interests in mind, because then we likely wouldn't have to deal with the off chance of you lying about it. However, the fact that the four players haven't responded particularly well also troubles me, and I would be entirely fine with Wiggles dying today. You people are impossible to please. I should just light them all on fire myself with my 4kp. | ||
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A potion that revives a town aligned player or a day vig that shoots only anti-town players might both be good ideas. | ||
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On March 27 2012 22:52 Maverick32x wrote: Kita.... What core do you have....-_-... I can't imagine the two cycles required for equiping and using a different core would be better than the medic core. Is there a reason you ask? If there is an anti-town player searching for a certain item, I'd rather not have to worry about them knowing what I have. | ||
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On March 28 2012 19:10 blubbdavid wrote: Dead Cell leader, very nice. And kita, may I inquire why you want to kill me before Dirk or Kenpachi? I mean I am pretty sure that you are NOT town. So what advantages will it bring you? Tell me who your other buddy is and I'll consider it | ||
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Thanks for hosting GreYMisT/iGrok/Jitsu. Fun setup | ||
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On April 06 2012 13:44 Adam4167 wrote: Sorry Kita, you were the town MVP this game, blew up half the scum team. Don't sell me short. 4/6 | ||
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On April 06 2012 15:23 RayzorFlash wrote: Kitaaaaaaaaaa... You killed me again... I thought we were friends :'( It was the friendship flames! I swear. I wonder if anyone else has ever died two games in a row by accident :p | ||
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Read all my raving reviews! EDIT: Yeah, kita+sinani are scum or 3rd party as well. kitaman too. Grey apparently said we are all dead because of kitaman, which makes me doubt he's town Of course, we know kitaman killed us all, so they should get him next >_> But I doubt they will. Also, I hope they kill Kita, just so I can yell at him for causing me to die again >_< kitaman has been outted by a tracker. nice read, whoever said that he's 3rd party. Either way, there's no way kita is town and has that ability. If it is Kita it probably does make him third party That is, assuming kita isn't SA (which I think it's very probable he is). His analysis on kita isn't bad either, considering that kita is most likely anti-town. Kitaman is obviously the lemon poisoner. Anyways, here's the list of which players I'd kill in order: kitaman Kill Mementos/kitaman/whatever I would have prefered the lynch candidates to be kitaman (really? Everybody just forgot that zelblade claimed kita visited me on N1?) Kita is Sleeper Agent or 3rd party. It does seem like kitaman is SC too So yeah, kita be SA. I would first of all kill kita, since he's the most "dangerous" of them all; and his kill power has a lot of variance (it can kill no one, or can kill like 4 players a night), which is exactly what makes it dangerous, and I'd prefer having someone with a steady 1-2 KP a night than someone who can kill up to 5 players a night (if those 5 players visit his target). He's most likely SA, so I'd kill him. MOD KILL KITA! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (fucking kill kita for christ sake  )I really want Kita to die so he can show up here and explain wtf he's been doing ;p I think the best kill town could make at this point would have to be kita if only to stop the random deaths (more reasons to kill kita >_>) Also if Kita is what u guys say he is I wouldn't he surprised at all, though he sure lucked out hitting 3 players beside each other on the player list lol. I really should have pushed him more... Gosh. Oh yeah, I don't know if I said this by now but....kill kita please >_> Really hoping jayjay lynches kita today, though I doubt thats going to happen... Kita's latest post is a whole tub of jackshit. On the bright side town are probably more likely to kill kita! Hmm, maybe it will be better to kill kita. EDIT: I still want to kill kita as you can see :D Yeah kill kita honestly kita now controls the town = doomed Also, I guess this means kita isn't scum, nor SA >_> .....he's 3rd party, kill kita >_> <_< | ||
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