Aperture Mafia

On March 17 2012 10:25 Drazerk wrote:


I do not believe in vannila townies considering the set up and what the game was originally going to be so you really might want to back track that claim.

On March 17 2012 11:14 gonzaw wrote:
@Grackaroni

So why do you think I even have an item?

On March 17 2012 11:31 gonzaw wrote:


Ehmm, that's not ramdom at all.

If it was indeed a random thought, what was the purpose of posting it?

On March 17 2012 08:48 gonzaw wrote:

Fact: Lemons contain traces of potassium sulfate.

On March 18 2012 00:24 ghost_403 wrote:


Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town.

On March 18 2012 02:00 sinani206 wrote:


Apparently because he "understands this whole thing" or something like that.
That's complete and utter bullshit.

Don't elect Velinath.
I think our best option is to elect Blazinghand and kill Velinath.

On March 17 2012 10:15 Bluelightz wrote:
Anyone have a thoughts on who we should lynch? I'm gonna oppose anything involving no lynch d1, policies(LA- Lurkers as backup is fine though for today only), and random lynch.

On March 18 2012 01:39 Bluelightz wrote:
Alright, before I go I will place my lynch vote on sinani206!

First, he has been lurking.

Second, because that sinani looks very suspicous later on, it might distract us later in the game.

##Vote: sinani206

On March 18 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
For the record the portal gun just lets you see what items someone has but you can't use any abilities if you choose to use it

On March 19 2012 01:37 Zephirdd wrote:
Wait the fuck? Drazerk is openly claiming that he wants to be lynched?

How do you know it was the cell leader? you said you didn't know who gave you the item.

On March 19 2012 01:43 Drazerk wrote:


Already told you it all actually read the thread

On March 19 2012 02:23 Drazerk wrote:


He is the planetary dragon T_T

On March 19 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote:


is he new? if so, your reasoning makes perfect sense...

what do you think about daaz saying he's the dragon? last taunt?

On March 19 2012 02:37 Drazerk wrote:


he isn't going to I am helping him after he contacted me

On March 19 2012 02:41 Drazerk wrote:


Yup

On March 19 2012 02:58 blubbdavid wrote:
Omg, unnessesary EBWOP by Kenpachi, is he communicating with his scum buddies?

On March 19 2012 02:49 Kenpachi wrote:
This town sucks

On March 19 2012 03:10 Drazerk wrote:


Except he is chell...

On March 19 2012 03:47 Drazerk wrote:


He knows who the cell members are its even in VE's flip T_T

On March 19 2012 04:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Could someone explain why Velinath is overwhelmingly being voted? I feel like I'm missing something.

On March 19 2012 04:21 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
So, I haven't really caught up properly sorry.
The Drazerk wagon doesn't sit right based on what I have seen, so I'm going to throw down a vote against Dirk.

Based on meta of the people in the game, Adam seems like a decent election.

On March 19 2012 04:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

yeah
I'm here now though, does anyone want to summarize it for me? I'll catch up, but probably not before night 1 ends.

On March 19 2012 04:38 Kenpachi wrote:
Foolishness has a fakeclaim or posting restriction (which might be part of his fakeclaim). I received a fakeclaim at my disposal but i dont want to use it cause its too much work.

Why is Kitaman mafia? well, that opening post is fucking terrible. lots of ambiguous questions, mindless responses, and Drazerk mentioned, He said NOTHING.
seriously, kill him someone

On March 19 2012 04:41 Kenpachi wrote:
why would i tell you fools i have a fakeclaim if i were 3rd party or scum? im townie with an obviously strong ability derps

On March 19 2012 06:08 Drazerk wrote:


Not quite sure if you know what a village idiot is...

On March 19 2012 08:07 Velinath wrote:

How do you figure? He had role names, throwing out random accusations means nothing. I'm town.

On March 19 2012 08:20 sinani206 wrote:


electricity obviously

On March 19 2012 08:27 gonzaw wrote:



What is said list of items?


Also, what's that "Desestabilization Level 5" that was said in Drazerk's Role PM?


@Grack: I don't think anybody will give you any lemons until you explain exactly what they are for and why you need them.
Just like nobody will vote for GLaDOS just because Kenpachi said so.

On March 19 2012 08:36 Jayjay54 wrote:


I possessed a lemon too. The "has to be given away" part makes me think that somebody searches for them and if someone gives hin lemons by chance something bad happens...

Convince me otherwise and Ill tell you who to talk to.

On March 19 2012 09:25 Velinath wrote:

I don't know why you're trusting Drazerk on anything given that he was all over the map with his claims. He also claimed that Wiggles was not the same as he was, which would be the use of his power as well. Since from what I can tell of his role PM he could only use this once per day, at least one of those claims is false.

On March 19 2012 06:14 Drazerk wrote:
Here is a list of people who need to die because they are scum but I distracted you all day so you never realized it -

kitaman27
gonzaw
MidnightGladius

People who you should look out for and probably have their own agenda -

Velinath
Jayjay54

People you should trust -

Kenpachi

People you should be voting for -

GlaDOS

On March 19 2012 09:36 Jayjay54 wrote:


so why do you want to take this post into consideration? Kenpachi is to trust because he did what draz wanted. I am on the "own agenda" list, because I pushed him. He was also already anti-town frustated when he posted that.
more information = better for town. Don't hold back, just because you are afraid of dying. If everybody is active, scum won't know who to shoot...ezpz

On March 19 2012 11:43 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Please post info about this Lemon Tree.
Did someone give you more lemons? What does the Lemon Tree do (apart I guess from just giving you more lemons)?

On March 19 2012 12:12 MidnightGladius wrote:
Gonzaw, I wasn't being serious about telling people seeking lemons to grow lemon trees :D. I was just poking fun at the idea of there being a black market trade in lemons, of all things.

Grackaroni, now you're being a bit too silly :D.

On March 19 2012 12:21 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Is this a joke then? Are you fake-claiming for shit and giggles?

On March 19 2012 13:41 Lanaia wrote:



He claimed the angry core would take two people down with him, no?

On March 19 2012 17:57 phagga wrote:
I think claminig items is not a good move at this point. As Drazerk's role showed there are 3rd parties and perhaps even scum out there that are dayvigs, it will be easy for them to get certain items if they need them. So I'd rather if people hold back with their item claims for now.

On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:


so who'll be your shot? dirk?

On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:


so who'll be your shot? dirk?

On March 20 2012 03:33 Jayjay54 wrote:


I don't know how you feel about me, but I do think that there are better targets.

The only reason he is prefered over the other lurkers is foolishness who I don't trust yet.

On March 20 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:


The only joke in this thread is your filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=105586&currentpage=All

On March 20 2012 03:50 Jayjay54 wrote:


I don't follow, I don't think scum will bus on d1 considering how few members they prolly have...foolishness isn't even sure himself:

On March 20 2012 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:


Oh wait let me answer this for myself: no, Grack is trying to "soft attack" without actually asking any questions or contributing eh

On March 20 2012 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:


I highly recommend you dine upon delicious carrots, my fellow gentleman. Things you're still not doing: contributing original thoughts.

On March 20 2012 04:04 Blazinghand wrote:


Also, what, my votes seemed suspicious? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's what I did:

1) voted Cyber_Cheese for totally reasonable reasons
2) saw zelblade's "slip" (and he has not been captain mchelpful since) and voted him for that totally reasonable reason.
3) refused to negotiate with terrorists

Oh you're right clearly I'm suspicious, definitely i'm a problem and not a guy like you or nisani or something!

On March 20 2012 04:07 Blazinghand wrote:


Ok, so your case is associative tells-- that some people were voting me before I was clearly town, and those people who were voting me on D1 were my scumbuddies. I can't be 3rd party or sleeper cell even since they don't communicate D1 right? So you're saying "blazinghand is in the mafia faction and his scumbuddies tried to start his mayor wagon before he established himself as town"?

Is that really your case?

On March 20 2012 04:09 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Also, the fact Grack is also going for Blazinghand, someone I have a pretty strong town read on bothers me a lot.

On March 20 2012 04:13 Blazinghand wrote:


You dodged the question. Here, let me rephrase it in terms that you can understand better:


Ok, so your PRESSURE is associative tells-- that some people were voting me before I was clearly town, and those people who were voting me on D1 were my scumbuddies. I can't be 3rd party or sleeper cell even since they don't communicate D1 right? So you're saying "blazinghand is in the mafia faction and his scumbuddies tried to start his mayor wagon before he established himself as town"?

Is that really your PRESSURE?

On March 20 2012 04:19 Blazinghand wrote:


Well I'm sorry you have a bad memory. Nothing I can do about that. I suppose I got my 13 votes from my 12 scumbuddies!

On March 20 2012 04:24 RayzorFlash wrote:
Grrr, I post analysis and while I'm writing it up theres 3 pages of pointless arguing instead of actual scumhunting...

I am disappoint

On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
We lynch Foolishness tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499&currentpage=All

I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion.

On March 20 2012 08:49 Nisani201 wrote:
Quote from the OP:

I don't know why there were no flips. The only possibility I can think of is that the flips are delayed and will be revealed to us later.

On March 20 2012 09:12 blubbdavid wrote:

From the OP.

And now we have three times "burned to death"?

On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
We lynch Foolishness tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499&currentpage=All

I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion.

On March 20 2012 01:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
The best way to deal with people not posting or attempting to skirt by is to shoot them when there are so many of them. The difference between people who don't post much is very little, and it's almost a given that mafia can push the lynch off their lurker onto another one. A vigilante shot is much less... emotional and involved.

Ready your guns gentlemen.

On March 21 2012 07:31 ghost_403 wrote:
@grack: I thought you needed another lemon to shoot Dirk? Why the change of heart?

On March 21 2012 08:37 Jayjay54 wrote:


I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere...

Give me

On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.

I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.

Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.

So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.

On March 21 2012 09:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
@david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites.

@deadmanwalking: what questions?

On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.

good night...

On March 21 2012 09:11 Lanaia wrote:


Again, really sorry for being away.

I dunno, looking at blue really makes me feel uneasy.
In particular:

I mean really, this looks like coaching or something, but I don't know why they'd do that here rather than private.


I'm really not liking gonzaw's lists and will be keeping an eye on him. There was someone else I intended to look more closely at but I seem to have forgotten who.
Oh right, zelblade.
I'm not liking zelblade, but I think i'm reading too much into blazinghand's read on him.


Also srbubbles is taking things far more seriously than needed, but that probably isn't indicative of anything.

On March 21 2012 10:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
I'm not scum.

On March 21 2012 15:08 kitaman27 wrote:
I'll give you a lemon if I can choose the target.

On March 21 2012 15:10 Grackaroni wrote:

Depends, who's the target?

On March 21 2012 15:11 kitaman27 wrote:
How does your role work, you just get a day vig for every 2 lemons that are given to you?

That doesn't sound like a town role.

On March 21 2012 15:14 kitaman27 wrote:


So how does it work?

2 lemons = day vig shot?

Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead?

On March 21 2012 16:33 zelblade wrote:
If bluelightz has rolled scum before can someone point me to it?

On March 21 2012 16:41 zelblade wrote:
Oh ok thanks I'll take a look when I get home.

And grack, any particular reason to believe that others have 0.5 kp besides hassy mentioning lemons? He could easily need them for something else. Seems weird to claim now...?

On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.

The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.

What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?

About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.

I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.

On March 22 2012 01:59 Jayjay54 wrote:


so you ignore completely ignore his ability?

I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment.

On March 21 2012 23:55 kitaman27 wrote:


Yes.

On March 22 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote:


See? This is the foolishness case. It is wrong!

He was the second player after me to vote Drazek. He didn't join the bandwagon. He started it with me.

That post at that time was completely appropriate. He voted Draz for the right reasons way earlier than most of you guys.

I don't know why everyone thinks that this post didn't add anything...

This is what happens when you take posts out of context.

Also palmar: it's sad that I have to defend you here, because you don't care.

On March 22 2012 04:19 MidnightGladius wrote:
While you're here, what were you trying to achieve by asking Kenpachi and Grackaroni their roles? Did you think that they would actually give you an answer?

On March 22 2012 09:08 Bluelightz wrote:
GG, I know how you feel grack xD.

On March 23 2012 04:50 Velinath wrote:
No other uses stated in the sale, hassy

Might be anti town, no way to be sure due to anonymity on market. I doubt it is kita though, Palmar's slip should have rwlly given anyone with smurfs (ie companion cub) would normally make people more watchful on what acct they werelogged into

On April 06 2012 23:19 ghost_403 wrote:
Ha! Town win! gg everyone! Had a blast, this was by far the best game of mafia I've played on the forums.

Greymist, iGrok and Jitsu, thanks again for hosting!