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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 19 2012 08:52 GMT
#1021
Why don't you care about this game Cwave?
Your filter is empty.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
March 19 2012 08:55 GMT
#1022
I tore my meniscus this weekend with soccer and have been preoccupied with getting work shifted.
So now got all the time to work on getting every scum, 3rd, 4th and 5h party lynched.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 19 2012 08:57 GMT
#1023
On March 19 2012 06:42 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 06:36 phagga wrote:

Lol, you might have only 2 pages of filter, but each of your post is at least 3 times more than the average post size in this thread. And many are formatted horribly. Really, it's a pain in the ass to read your posts, and I've already skipped several for the time being.


Huh? *sigh*

I won't discuss this with you if that's what you think. I hope other players think otherwise.

I would advise you not to "skip" any of my posts. What if I'm scum? Will you just let me off the hook as easily as that?


LOL

You're not mafia.

Also, don't worry, I will read through your filter again later on.

On March 19 2012 06:42 gonzaw wrote:
phagga, you've been keeping your attention to a small pool of players, and a pool of players everybody else has kept their attention on as well.
So what do you think about the other players? What do you think about Rayzor, Lanaia, Zephird, Midnight, etc, etc ,etc?


What you don't seem to understand is that not everyone has the same amount of time available to participate in this game. I have a family with 2 kids which limits my time drastically, especially on weekends. In a game like this where the thread fills up so fast it is already hard enough for me to keep up. So when I'm gonna analyse someone or something, I do it in my order on the people that I want to, and I'm not gonna make any errand runs for other players until I have the feeling it really helps us all.

Also, I don't give out town reads unless absolutely necessary.

On March 19 2012 12:21 gonzaw wrote:

@Grack: Is this a joke then? Are you fake-claiming for shit and giggles?


Seriously, for you being so active in the thread you clearly misread this hard. It was very obvious that this was a joke.

Generally, I like that you try to keep everyone active. If you read through the newbie minis I've played (Newb Mini IV, SNMMVIII), you know that I take a hard stance on lurkers. But you will also see that I'm never one of those with the big filters, because I only speak up when I think I have something relevant to say or I need to explain my actions (like now).

On March 19 2012 13:35 gonzaw wrote:
There's a very simple way to determine if Drazerk lied or not about giving his items to someone else (Cell Leader or not) now that I think about it:



-If you got the "Portal Gun", "Maia Gun", or "Angry Core" once Drazerk was lynched, then claim you got it.
If this was the case, then Drazerk was indeed bullshiting about that and we can just forget about it.
If nobody claims, then perhaps he did give his items to someone else, but it's also likely the items went to scum/3rd party.

The point is that Drazerk's role made his items obsolete, so there's no harm in claiming you got them, right?
(Unless I'm missing something).


I think claminig items is not a good move at this point. As Drazerk's role showed there are 3rd parties and perhaps even scum out there that are dayvigs, it will be easy for them to get certain items if they need them. So I'd rather if people hold back with their item claims for now.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 19 2012 09:00 GMT
#1024
On March 19 2012 17:57 phagga wrote:
I think claminig items is not a good move at this point. As Drazerk's role showed there are 3rd parties and perhaps even scum out there that are dayvigs, it will be easy for them to get certain items if they need them. So I'd rather if people hold back with their item claims for now.

I can agree with that, Drazerk's flip already showed a 3rd party that needs Gonzaw's item, we'll have to hope that he was the only player that needed it. Pretty bad move by Gonzaw, nobody was going to kill him before he said that lol.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
March 19 2012 09:27 GMT
#1025
Hellow people!, I didnt have time before this so gonna read up and respond to any questions and such now.

I love pink!
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Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2012 10:16 GMT
#1026
We lynch Foolishness tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499&currentpage=All

I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion.
How this goes?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 19 2012 10:46 GMT
#1027
The following paragraph bothers me greatly:

On March 19 2012 09:15 willz22912 wrote:

Regarding you Gonzaw, do you not fear for your life by being the most active poster? If you keep asking everyone questions and you are personally keeping track of everyone, why wouldn't you be the first one killed this night? Do you think scum have already found out blue roles, I don't think so. If you are town, you should back off and not present yourself as a target with your activity. If you are scum, you would just keep posting because you know you won't be a target. Do you have any response to this logic?


This does not make any sense. You imply that he is an asset to town, then say he should stop contributing because if he keeps contributing that makes him mafia? Wasn't it supposed to be the other way round?

Also, Is it not in the interest of town that greenies present themself as possible night targets to avoid that the blues get hit?

Are you rolefishing?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 19 2012 10:59 GMT
#1028
On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
We lynch Foolishness tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499&currentpage=All

I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion.


Worst omgus ever.

posting from phone, cant multiquote. Will answer gonzaw's questions(mostly) in about 8hrs or so. Id appreciate if you could condense it all on a recent post btw.

imo should only care about not reaching lv5 on dengine.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 19 2012 11:30 GMT
#1029
Morning guys! A few things I've seen since I went to bed:

- Transparency for the black market is a very bad idea. Not only are there item stealers, but you are also outing town players who can get items. Why would you suggest powerful town open themselves to being killed by scum/3rd part of their items or to just fuck town over?
- Again, transparency for Drazerk's items isn't a good idea either. They're useless items according to his flip, so why do we even need to know about them?
- gonzaw's claim about the D. Engine is interesting. It could follow Drazerk's claim that he needs 5 items. Maybe every item you own increases the level?

Also don't forget that there's a great chance that the hosts put restrictions on the vets/gave them bastard roles on purpose. For science. And shit'n'giggles
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2012 11:45 GMT
#1030
On March 19 2012 19:59 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
We lynch Foolishness tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499&currentpage=All

I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion.


Worst omgus ever.

posting from phone, cant multiquote. Will answer gonzaw's questions(mostly) in about 8hrs or so. Id appreciate if you could condense it all on a recent post btw.

imo should only care about not reaching lv5 on dengine.


Hardly an omgus, more like a pretty clear observation.

If that's your criteria for scumhunting I hope to play scum in a game with you sometime, so I can just call everyone scum, and then accuse people of omgusing.

Or do you just not like it that I bring to light something like this? It's not like your own posts have been radiating green.
How this goes?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 19 2012 12:11 GMT
#1031
Way to overreacts dirk. You never said why his postings make him scum, only that he trolled once. Besides, he didnt even create that much chaos from his posting. In fact its quite pleasant to read the poetry created by people here imo.
Its entirely possible that he received that restriction BECAUSE of that trollish game.

That omgus was still bad.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2012 12:35 GMT
#1032
Do you actually think it's a posting restriction? Those are very, very rare.
How this goes?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 19 2012 12:39 GMT
#1033
A balrog role that has a one shot k.o + need for items on a game with sleeper cells and a desestabilization engine isn't exactly common. Yes, I do think it is a possibility.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1034
Problem with restrictions is that they're just boring to play with. Both personality mafia and later PTP games have forbidden harsh restrictions on the content people post.

It seems very unlikely that it's a real restriction.
How this goes?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 19 2012 12:52 GMT
#1035
It may be unlikely, but it doesn't make it impossible. Most games don't have items either, or this many third party roles. i think our standard thought on game setup is thrown out the window

I mean cmon, this is a Portal-themed game...and there's a YugiOh card in it. WAT
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2012 12:54 GMT
#1036
Yes but it's also meant to be a fun game. Being forced to post in a certain way takes away from creativity while adding items, roles, factions increases the depth of the game (but maybe not it's competitiveness).

Anyway, it's a pointless discussion, either people buy the restriction or they don't. I don't.
How this goes?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 19 2012 12:58 GMT
#1037
Man, I have a load of work to do today, wont be posting much due to that. Hopefully my workload is going to decrease (probably will after a couple of exams tomorrow) and will be able to post more.

First off, I have no idea why the hell drazerk decided to lie about his win con and crap when he could have just claimed everything truthfully which might have given him a higher chance of survining the first day -.-

Regarding Foolishness, I dont really know what to think of him at the moment. I highly doubt that its a posting restriction due to the mods giving him points for it, and honestly it seems pretty ridiculous to have a "post in riddles" post restriction. Considering the highly themed nature it definately is a possibility, though I doubt it for one. Which makes me think that Foolishness is either:

1) Scum/3rd trying to look like hes contributing
2) Town trying to avoid getting shot n1 by "trolling" and faking a post restriction to make himself seem less of a threat.

Im unsure which he is as of now, although im leaning towards the 2nd option. Since it seems he has a reputation of being able to single handedly crush mafia teams within a couple of in game days, I feel that the best course of action is to leave him be for a while (day 3 or so) and see what he delivers to us.



Next up. Regarding wheatly and the black market thing, I think we should leave it to velinath to decide what he wants to do with the role. We elected him, and that means wether we like it or not, we ought to trust him with the role, due to possible unknown mechanics that might interfere. What he should do though is claim whoever he gives any item to before night ends (dont forget the 1 hour no post thingy!) and what said item is, which would allow us to semi-confirm that part of his role at least.




Gonzaw's claim regarding the destabaliztion engine is pretty darn interesting. From what you have stated, it seems to be a good idea to keep the level low for now. I dont really know anything about portal lore if it applies here, but it does seem that it going up might have some sort of negative effect on us. Also, does it state that it will be stated in the day/night posts if the destabalization rises? If not, it could be that it is a hidden mechanic.. which would prove quite troublesome.

What I have no idea is why the hell you are claiming this, particularly now. From what it seems, quite a number actually are seeking this engine (great powers have similar wincons?). Besides, it doesnt seem to be information that we need to know at this point, which is why I feel all this honestly does is make you a giant targert. Oh not to mention that its night, where alot more kp is rampant. Even if you felt that a claim was neccessary, couldnt it have waited till day? I dont think you were that high a pirority targert to feel this unsafe. Sure you are one of the more active posters and such, but I highly doubt you were going to be shot, considering that there are both supposed godlike scumhunters (Foolishness etc.) and people that seem more likely to be town.

Of course I could be wrong but I feel that claim was pretty bad, and I have no idea why you decided to post this piece of (not neccessary) information at this point.




Bleh, seems like the most active time is generally when im in school and when im sleeping ._. Really wish I could shift time or something lol =/

I havent had the time to read the recent pages recently, so if I missed out anything major (question towards me etc.) please point it out, and I will address it tomorrow. Thanks.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 19 2012 13:04 GMT
#1038
Its not a freaking post restriction. he got points for "creative thinking" for his first poem. if he had to post like that he wouldnt have points now.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 19 2012 13:08 GMT
#1039
Maybe the restriction was to post in rhyme, and he chose to use limericks.

Hell, we could just get a vig to shoot him to find out, butt hat feels like a wasted shot right now. I don't see the best of targets right now, except for maybe Sbrubbles for his post timing, but that's pretty weak. gonzaw is worrying my though
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 19 2012 13:12 GMT
#1040
Personally I think vigis should just clear out some of the many lurkers we have. Dont think its a good idea to shoot foolishness, maybe a rolecheck of sorts but still think that would be a waste.
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