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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:33 GMT
#861
Not waste KP on me, but deny them additional 0.5KP from recruit the Traitor.
I don't say it's scummy to think I am traitor. It means I've done good job. The problem with Your case is that You point out the "Pokemon hint" while it's not related to my traitor plan(it was just me roleplaying a Pokemon Trainer Joey). I understand people could get suspicious because of my trolling, but not because I was talking about Rattata damnit. That's I think it's scummy. It's like taking one word out of entire case and saying it's wrong.
What I think:
If I were really the traitor, I would've picked different thing to roleplay. It wouldn't be Pokemon Trainer Joey and Salvatore but someone like Illidan or Team Rocket Member(and probably go for a Zubat).
I trolled to make me look like a traitor. I haven't done it subtle or correctly: character's I've played were neutral or stupid.
If I were the real traitor I'd probably try to stay hidden and hint things from time to time, not risk my damn Blue life and troll hard. I thought Caller was Traitor but he proved he's Day Vigilante. I posted my reasoning already.
You dreamt about mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title entire scene disappeared. You were once again on pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed in front of you out of nowhere, saying:
- You have been warned before about violating our privacy!
After that, you regained your consciousness.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:34 GMT
#862
interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker
RIP Aaliyah
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
March 14 2012 22:35 GMT
#863
On March 15 2012 07:30 prplhz wrote:
Curu and Palmar both think this too so there has to be something about it, yes?


you realize that curu is just mindlessly sheeping whatever Palmar says, even though he had earlier quoted Mig's statement that dreamflower is more anti-town than not.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:39 GMT
#864
On March 15 2012 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker

Sandroba capitalizing "You" in my role pm once was so wrong.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 22:39 GMT
#865
So you can say that I was antitown, that's cool, that's your opinion and not too relevant for finding scum. Doesn't make me scum though (might even make me more town?). Ultimately, Jackal58 can make his own decisions and he probably can't be influenced by anything I saw.

Since he did survive we know that scum didn't block+hit him. Maybe they blocked him but then he could claim. If I was scum, and I thought he was going to hit me, then it seems like a pretty bad idea to either just block or just not do anything about him doesn't it?

I don't think I was his best scum read because even though he raged against me he didn't actually call me scum. Even though I didn't think I was his best scum read, would I as scum risk him shooting me without also hitting him that night? I was purposely trying to get on his nerves and I know by experience that he is susceptible to this (probably not from me though).
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:40 GMT
#866

does anyone honestly believe kurumi at this point?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:41 GMT
#867
yes as scum you can risk it because as scum you can guarantee your own survival do you understand that

i can't imagine a scenario in which a townie ever procs a suicide vig to shoot when the suicide vig has been saying he'd shoot that townie i really can't understand that logic

is it that important to you to "confirm" a blue role that it's worth dying
RIP Aaliyah
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 22:46 GMT
#868
On March 15 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker

Sandroba capitalizing "You" in my role pm once was so wrong.

What was that game again?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 14 2012 22:47 GMT
#869
I am having a hard time beleiving that prplhz is town.

All he seems to do is spread negativity and encourage aimless discussion.

His most significant "scumhunting" posts are about Jackal and ViceraEyes.
His post about Jackal comes just after caller's case and it seems to be centered around theidea that he would not expect a town Jackal to think that caller looked scummy

On March 12 2012 08:06 prplhz wrote:
Yea, I don't know about this jaybrundage lynch either.

I don't think Caller is a good lynch either. The guy is being useless but I don't think there's anything particularly scummy about the way he is doing it. Even in the face of a lot of townies disliking him he's not doing anything to stop this and his lynch isn't really facing any resistance either. The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad, the guy isn't really acting scummy. He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie.

The Caller lynch seems like something that Jackal58 would oppose in his characteristic laconic, passive aggressive manner. Caller is being dumb but he's being blatant about it and there's nothing scummy about that and Jackal58 is usually one of the first to notice stuff like that. The fact that I've been on board the Caller-is-scummy-idea since the beginning seems like something that would make a town Jackal58 think everything over twice. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm a horrible player who only does horrible things + Show Spoiler +
. Instead he is pushing it in a very meek way with his "forgive me" and "sir".

I think that Jackal58 is scum.

##Vote Jackal58

He appears to be calling Jackal scum for doing the same thing that he (prphlz) did himself. The "forgive me" and "sir" may just be manner. I believe the OP instructs us to use it, it is not a "scumtell".
Other than that he his "meta" "argument" is extremely vague and there is next to nothing in this post that should justify a vote.

+ Show Spoiler [prplhz probably dislikes you] +

"Your little matrix is extremely naïve, borderline dumb."


"OP was written 12 days ago. What's your excuse for not reading it?"


"The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad"


"He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie."


"Caller had written short derpy posts so far"


On March 13 2012 05:44 prplhz wrote:
Oh sorry about that, I'm tired.

You still suck DoctorHelvetica.


On March 13 2012 16:44 prplhz wrote:
You're all JubJubs for not lynching Jackal58.


On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.


On March 14 2012 07:20 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.


Confirmed scum?

He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro.

That's pretty stupid but I'm not going to tell you why.


Is it usual for prphlz to be so negative about other peoples play?
He keeps throwing insults about people's play around rather than making legitimate or potentially constructive criticisms. He is casting doubt on players for no particular reason. He is spreading distrust.

He is also quick to inflate minute and unimportant to distract from looking for scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
i am a little bored, think i will just post


He is not trying to help us find scum.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:47 GMT
#870
On March 15 2012 07:46 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote:
On March 15 2012 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker

Sandroba capitalizing "You" in my role pm once was so wrong.

What was that game again?

XLIV I think. Hosted by GMarshal with Paladin theme. U_U
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 14 2012 22:50 GMT
#871
Lol at Kurumi saying he trolled to make himself look like a traitor when trolling is typical town Kurumi play.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:54 GMT
#872
I'm going to bed. See You later guys.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 22:57 GMT
#873
On March 15 2012 07:33 Kurumi wrote:
You dreamt about a mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title the entire scene disappeared. You were once again on a pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not it wasn't the 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed up in front of you out of nowhere, saying:
- You have been warned before about violating our privacy!
After that, you regained your consciousness.


No way Ver or Incog wrote this.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 14 2012 22:59 GMT
#874
LOL layabout he says your case on me is bad and thats negative. Rofl

Layabout get with the program. Read up on the Kurumi case. And his responses. He claims he was trying to attract the mafia by playing the traitor. Yatta yatta yatta. Are you seriously ignoring this case? It should demand your attention. The fact that your ignoring it, is scary to be honest

Or is it that your scum trying to make a distraction case so Kurumi can get away scot free?

And Kurumi I think your "Clue" is pretty dumb. Please post the exact wording of the first PM (That told you there was a dreamflower)
It doesn't make much sense for them to straight out tell you there is a specific role in the game. And then to post a much of nonsense.

Also if Kurumi turns out to be scum we should take another hard look at jackal.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:59 GMT
#875
A native english speaker would never say "you were reading a book in your own bed with 'secrets are being unveiled' title."

RIP Aaliyah
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 14 2012 23:01 GMT
#876
Hey Doc are you scum?

You should PM and tell me your role
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 14 2012 23:13 GMT
#877
@"People that have played multiple games with Kurumi",

Do you think a town-aligned Kurumi would act as he has acted so far?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#878
On March 15 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote:
jackal have you used your pm's?

No I have not.
Gumshoe and Kurumi have both contacted me.


On March 15 2012 07:30 prplhz wrote:
Yea, but you didn't think so. Your case was bad from your point of view and that was what I was trying to say.

The chance is not 19/23.

There are 22 other townies than him and 5 bad guys, 4 scum + 1 traitor. Quickly down to 5/18, or almost 1/3. Jackal58 is a smart guy and I believe that he could make those odds even better.

I thought the risk of him shooting into his best scum read was worth the reward of having the issue resolved. Curu and Palmar both think this too so there has to be something about it, yes?

You were one shot of Ugly Dog short of getting your dick blown off.



On March 15 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote:
Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint?

1st:
He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy.
I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good.

Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight?
You haven't said anything so I guess no.

If I was role blocked I was not informed of said role block. If scum used any ability on me I would assume it was role reversal. Dunno if I would shoot myself in that case. If prp is town and scum thought he was the individual I was most likely to shoot they probably used nothing on me.


I have no idea what to make of Kurumi. But the role he posted is not a role. It's either a proposal from Caller or he made it up. There is no action involved in it. No explanation of the mechanic involved. No description of what it is or how it works.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#879
On March 15 2012 08:13 layabout wrote:
@"People that have played multiple games with Kurumi",

Do you think a town-aligned Kurumi would act as he has acted so far?

Yes. He has before.
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 14 2012 23:26 GMT
#880
addition reasoning will be presented when i am less tired.

##vote prphlz
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
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