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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#841
jackal have you used your pm's?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 21:54 GMT
#842
And I don't really care because I know you can't explain it.

Jackal58 dies if his target is town no matter if he is roleblocked or his target is saved. He said this in the thread.

If I'm scum and he shoots me and he survives then he can easily trade 1 for 1 with me. He can probably even get me lynched first because I'm popularly perceived to be the lesser player of the two of us. Why would I want this? I never thought he was going to shoot me but that's unimportant, you thought I thought he was going to shoot me and your shit doesn't make any sense.

You're not pushing your bullshit case because it's horrible and you're not going to get a single person to vote for me, and it doesn't look like you care. You can't even bother to argue with a 90% scum who wants to go over your arguments in a logical way. Jesus christ.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 21:55 GMT
#843
I'm not pushing you because I'm pushing Kurumi instead holy fuck
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#844
On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.


Confirmed scum?

He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro.


yeah i never explained it

im done with this game
RIP Aaliyah
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#845
I'm sorry DoctorHelvetica, please don't leave!
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 21:59 GMT
#846
this is worse than storm

what's the point of being in a game where the town is so awful that you come under attack constantly just because people are too lazy to read your posts or think on the level of a highschool student
RIP Aaliyah
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 14 2012 21:59 GMT
#847
On March 15 2012 06:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.


Confirmed scum?

He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro.


yeah i never explained it

im done with this game


every game has a ragequit in it now
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:01 GMT
#848
I don't know why this case was brought today instead of D1, if You think I am scum. It makes no sense whatsoever.
I am Town. I am Dreamer. I am passive informative role goddamnit. I trolled on purpose (but pokemon references have nothing to do with hinting traitor, it was PURE TROLLING) so scum would think I am traitor. I thought it was very strong to go for such a gamble when I can deny additional 0.5KP for a loooooooooooong long time.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 14 2012 22:02 GMT
#849
On March 15 2012 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 05:58 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:22 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:14 Caller wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'd like to say that Caller PM'ed me saying he believes I'm a traitor.

I'd also like to say I am not a traitor. This leads me to believe I've been framed. Or maybe Caller's just being stupid. Probably the first one though.

And it makes sense to frame me because I'm lurking this game , EZ suspicion.

(Also, page 38 isn't working for me in school, it's blocked due to what I would believe is too many images? So I'll read that page later.)

Wait what?

did caller actually pm sentinel, or is someone lying?


No sir.

1. It makes utterly no sense to frame you, and I don't even think scum can frame someone as traitor.
2. Caller is implying that what you said makes no sense, or is false. I'll wait to see what he says


Show nested quote +

Frame: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as mafia for 1 night cycle.


Well fuck you're right... any other explanation or should I start turning on Caller?

Sentinel, why do you make no sense at all? If Caller believes you're the traitor, it probably means that he thinks you're the traitor based on your behaviour, not because he's a detective/is in contact with a detective. I don't get how you're making the logical leap to that. =/

Kurumi, you've already claimed, so would you mind explaining exactly how your role works and what it does? I've tried searching it up, but I can't find anything specific, and it doesn't mean your role is the same.
you gotta dance
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#850
On March 15 2012 07:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:58 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:22 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:14 Caller wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'd like to say that Caller PM'ed me saying he believes I'm a traitor.

I'd also like to say I am not a traitor. This leads me to believe I've been framed. Or maybe Caller's just being stupid. Probably the first one though.

And it makes sense to frame me because I'm lurking this game , EZ suspicion.

(Also, page 38 isn't working for me in school, it's blocked due to what I would believe is too many images? So I'll read that page later.)

Wait what?

did caller actually pm sentinel, or is someone lying?


No sir.

1. It makes utterly no sense to frame you, and I don't even think scum can frame someone as traitor.
2. Caller is implying that what you said makes no sense, or is false. I'll wait to see what he says



Frame: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as mafia for 1 night cycle.


Well fuck you're right... any other explanation or should I start turning on Caller?

Sentinel, why do you make no sense at all? If Caller believes you're the traitor, it probably means that he thinks you're the traitor based on your behaviour, not because he's a detective/is in contact with a detective. I don't get how you're making the logical leap to that. =/

Kurumi, you've already claimed, so would you mind explaining exactly how your role works and what it does? I've tried searching it up, but I can't find anything specific, and it doesn't mean your role is the same.


That's what he claims. Ahem:


Hi, I rolechecked you last night and found out that you're the traitor. What do you have to say for yourself?


This is the PM.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 14 2012 22:13 GMT
#851
Mr. Wiggles, I am a passive informative role. I get an information every cycle, starting with D1. The first one I got was about Dreamflower role being present in the game. The second one(D2) is a lot harder to get anything from, it's my dream, so basically a clue. It seems like I basically get information about the setup every cycle, but I am not sure.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:14 GMT
#852
Post what you got D2
RIP Aaliyah
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 14 2012 22:19 GMT
#853
On March 15 2012 07:01 Kurumi wrote:
I don't know why this case was brought today instead of D1, if You think I am scum. It makes no sense whatsoever.
I am Town. I am Dreamer. I am passive informative role goddamnit. I trolled on purpose (but pokemon references have nothing to do with hinting traitor, it was PURE TROLLING) so scum would think I am traitor. I thought it was very strong to go for such a gamble when I can deny additional 0.5KP for a loooooooooooong long time.


Wait so it's "PURE TROLLING."

Trolling as not giving two fucks for the game and just having fun with it. And not caring if you were furthering your win con at all. So IF you are town this is completely anti-town and your ruining the thread atmosphere. It creates suspicion on your self.
WHEN THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO AS TOWN IS ESTABLISH YOUR TOWNIENESS
You decide instead to troll

BUT THEN

You state that it was so scum would think you are a traitor. Do you really think the town are such idiots that we would not see these hints as well? Did it occur to you that town might see this as, Hm I don't know.
YOU BEING AN ACTUALLY TRAITOR TRYING TO REACH MAFIA

Then you talk about making scum waste KP are you serious. THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE
Why would they waste KP on you. They just have to recruit you because you the traitor.

I repeat you are the traitor.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#854
And yes kurumi please post it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#855
On March 15 2012 06:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
this is worse than storm

what's the point of being in a game where the town is so awful that you come under attack constantly just because people are too lazy to read your posts or think on the level of a highschool student

I never attacked you, I am just disagreeing with you. I never made one ad hominem at you.

Scum can block+hit no matter if he shoots or not, doesn't make any difference. If he decides to shoot me and he calls his hit then I'm in big trouble. I really don't see why a scum would want Jackal58 to shoot at him.

Please bear with my highschool student intelligence, I am honestly trying to improve! If you're down at "you want him to shoot into town and then they both die", then no, that was not what I was hoping for but in my head it was an acceptable risk for the reward of having the entire Jackal58 issue resolved. I think scum are perfectly happy with having Jackal58 alive right now. Other people agreed with this too, notably Curu and Palmar.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:23 GMT
#856
No a 19/23 chance of double town death is not worth a possible 1 for 1 trade that can be easily blocked
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:24 GMT
#857
Apparently you didn't even realize he wanted to shoot you, if you thought he was gunning for Caller or Curu or someone else it makes even more sense, why wouldn't scum want a double town death at night
RIP Aaliyah
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2012 22:30 GMT
#858
Yea, but you didn't think so. Your case was bad from your point of view and that was what I was trying to say.

The chance is not 19/23.

There are 22 other townies than him and 5 bad guys, 4 scum + 1 traitor. Quickly down to 5/18, or almost 1/3. Jackal58 is a smart guy and I believe that he could make those odds even better.

I thought the risk of him shooting into his best scum read was worth the reward of having the issue resolved. Curu and Palmar both think this too so there has to be something about it, yes?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 14 2012 22:31 GMT
#859
You were his best scumread
RIP Aaliyah
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 14 2012 22:33 GMT
#860
On March 15 2012 07:13 Kurumi wrote:
Mr. Wiggles, I am a passive informative role. I get an information every cycle, starting with D1. The first one I got was about Dreamflower role being present in the game. The second one(D2) is a lot harder to get anything from, it's my dream, so basically a clue. It seems like I basically get information about the setup every cycle, but I am not sure.

Wait what's taking Kurumi so long. I didn't think it would take you this long to make something up

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
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