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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Did anyone take a hit last night? If not, its not unreasonable to think that rg was hit twice. I highly doubt that the anti-town KP is only 1. While mafia doublestacking RG is unlikely, its possible both SK and mafia went after him independently. However until I hear ACKT come up with an explanation, ##Vote A Killer Cup of Tea | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:57 deconduo wrote: What is the mafia KP formula? Did anyone take a hit last night? If not, its not unreasonable to think that rg was hit twice. I highly doubt that the anti-town KP is only 1. While mafia doublestacking RG is unlikely, its possible both SK and mafia went after him independently. However until I hear ACKT come up with an explanation, ##Vote A Killer Cup of Tea The KP formula is hidden | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
I agree that it's highly unlikely that AKCT can come up with an explanation that isn't too complicated to be believable. At this point, no matter what he says, the most likely case is that he's a killer. On March 05 2012 00:57 deconduo wrote: What is the mafia KP formula? Did anyone take a hit last night? If not, its not unreasonable to think that rg was hit twice. I highly doubt that the anti-town KP is only 1. While mafia doublestacking RG is unlikely, its possible both SK and mafia went after him independently. However until I hear ACKT come up with an explanation, ##Vote A Killer Cup of Tea Assuming Pandain is a watcher unless he claims otherwise, would he not have seen more than one person visiting rgTS if there was more than one person hitting him? If he's a tracker this might work. On March 04 2012 18:07 Paperscraps wrote: Honestly this is very believable. AKCT has played a scummy game so far. AKCT needs to claim a role though, before we proceed with anything. Why's that? Is he your scumbuddy and you want to give him an out? | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
97 Posts
i'm vanilla townie, lynch Pandain when i flip town? I don't know why scum would make such a silly trade. ##Vote Pandain for the record, cos i dont even have a visiting role :V (unless he's, like, paranoid tracker or something, i've seen that before) | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
##Vote A Killer Cup of Tea | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
97 Posts
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
97 Posts
Incidentally, blue role do not counterclaim Pandain. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:57 deconduo wrote: What is the mafia KP formula? Did anyone take a hit last night? If not, its not unreasonable to think that rg was hit twice. I highly doubt that the anti-town KP is only 1. While mafia doublestacking RG is unlikely, its possible both SK and mafia went after him independently. However until I hear ACKT come up with an explanation, ##Vote A Killer Cup of Tea Speculation does nothing for us. rg was one of the most active voices day 1. Activity level in this game is amazingly low. I know my level is as bad or worse than anybodies. Prior commitments are now out of the way. Adam are you going to do anything other than defend Sandroba, fish for blues and call me out for my disbelief in Misder being lynched by 3 people? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=192320 Adam is scum. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 05 2012 04:45 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: /shrug i'm vanilla townie, lynch Pandain when i flip town? I don't know why scum would make such a silly trade. ##Vote Pandain for the record, cos i dont even have a visiting role :V (unless he's, like, paranoid tracker or something, i've seen that before) Pandain makes claims as scum just to make claims as scum. That said you're still first. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 05 2012 04:57 Jackal58 wrote: Speculation does nothing for us. rg was one of the most active voices day 1. Activity level in this game is amazingly low. I know my level is as bad or worse than anybodies. Prior commitments are now out of the way. Adam are you going to do anything other than defend Sandroba, fish for blues and call me out for my disbelief in Misder being lynched by 3 people? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=192320 Adam is scum. Yeah the fact that AKCT claimed vanilla means its irrelevant. One of them is scum so we lynch AKCT today. The last thing we need to do today is to go inactive though. We can't let the discussion die just because we've caught one mafia. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I was just seeing how he reacted :<. He was the second most suspicious person I had, so I just decided to pressure him a little. What he did was opposite of mafia. If he was mafia, he would have claimed to have a blue role, not a vanilla townie. Instead, he's been actively offering the right thing to do in his situation(if town): Lynch him, and then lynch me. If he's SK the situation is a little different, but still points to him as town. He's perfectly alright with being lynched( when he CAN'T as SK if he wants to live.) So basically now, in my opinion, AKCT is 100% town. + Show Spoiler + basically im not watcher/tracker unless im pulling epic mindfuck games | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
1. There is NO reason I would do this if mafia. Think of one. Please. Tell me. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 05 2012 06:29 Pandain wrote: Also I know this is going to come up so to get it out of the way: 1. There is NO reason I would do this if mafia. Think of one. Please. Tell me. No reason to do it as mafia at all. But you never use rationality as a reason when you make claims. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Nice ploy Pandain, I agree AKCT gets town for his response. This I find strange On March 04 2012 12:28 Adam4167 wrote: Cant say i'm surprised with that. I was very surprised. Rg basically claimed Vanilla Townie or possibly Veteran. Here is something I wrote and was keeping for when his claims became useful. Claims to be able to half sandrobas chance of surviving night -> Vig/SK On March 01 2012 16:28 rgTheSchworz wrote: Your chances of surviving another night are now halved,sir. ... Ive randomed a purely awesome role this game. Repeat of above -> Vig/SK On March 01 2012 21:06 rgTheSchworz wrote: Yeah, and Mr Hydra, I rolled something awesome this game, so I can make Sandro and others pay for their cockiness. Claims not to be SK -> Vig On March 02 2012 03:48 rgTheSchworz wrote: it s probable that we dont have an SK. ... So, Mr SK, we lynch u after all scum have gone,ok? Therefore is either a Vig or a Veteran trying to get shot in a really stupid way (again). The he says On March 03 2012 19:33 rgTheSchworz wrote: Who said I m a vig? I didnt roll scum, FYI. So just from reading his filter his claims don't make sense. Strange hit for me. I guess I was wrong about his attempts to get shot being stupid but that just says mafia aren't reading filters properly. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 04 2012 09:05 Adam4167 wrote: I didn't support either of the 'main' lynches yesterday and considering the votes ended up being split 3-3 in favour of your two main candidates, neither did most other people. I was not avoiding responsibility by not voting for Misder, go read my filter, I didn't think he was scum. Lazy, yes. scum, no. I also didn't vote for sandroba on similar reasons, I think he is being lazy or just plain doesn't give a shit, which is not indicative of his alignment to me. So I was presented with the 'choice' of voting for two people, neither of which I find overly scummy. So I decided to provoke Palmar, partly because I feel his play is different to what I expect from town Palmar, partly to gain a better read on him in case I am wrong and he is town. The result is I still don't know what his alignment is. I asked him to produce more content (in the form of a case on me), but he refused as he was hell-bent on only focusing on sandroba yesterday, so I don't know what to make of him. Fair enough. You had explained your reasons for not voting these two. Misder's was a little difficult to find but it is in there. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 04 2012 10:41 Bluelightz wrote: Alright, at the time I didnt believe either Sandroba or Misder was scum. At the time I already said I wouldnt be there for the deadline so I couldnt change it.\ I voted rgTS like I said, he had the highest chance of flipping scum to me. What above the rest of my post? Don't you go lurking again or I will push for your lynch. You have provided nothing this game and I still can't read you. Read some filters, find me a useful quote, do something and I will get off your back. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 05 2012 06:12 Pandain wrote: AKCT is town. I was just seeing how he reacted :<. He was the second most suspicious person I had, so I just decided to pressure him a little. What he did was opposite of mafia. If he was mafia, he would have claimed to have a blue role, not a vanilla townie. Instead, he's been actively offering the right thing to do in his situation(if town): Lynch him, and then lynch me. If he's SK the situation is a little different, but still points to him as town. He's perfectly alright with being lynched( when he CAN'T as SK if he wants to live.) So basically now, in my opinion, AKCT is 100% town. + Show Spoiler + basically im not watcher/tracker unless im pulling epic mindfuck games You do realise this doesn't work. The ploy tells us nothing about his alignment except that he probably didn't kill RG. Unless he actually did visit rg last night, he would know you are lying. All you've done is waste a day. ##Unvote | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 04 2012 14:15 Adam4167 wrote: Since you've claimed blue already, can you tell me if you Tracked AKCT or if you Watched rgTheSchworz? I assume its the latter, but id like to know for sure. What use does that answer provide to town? The only possible thing I can think of is that he didn't believe Pandain and was using this as a way of getting him to possibly slip up. Pandain had announced his suspicion of AKCT so it makes sense for him to follow him. I don't see why watching RG would necessarily be more likely. As I previously stated it was obvious that RG claims were bogus from a simple read of his filter. Even if you disregard the above, why ask? I read guilty concience here. Mafia shot RG and wanted to find out if they had been caught. If Pandain claims he tracked AKCT, no harm done. If he claims he watched RG they can counterclaim because they know they were the one's who were shot RG. Thus Pandain was either lying or he knows they are scum. They know that he knows. Thus the only possible way out is to counterclaim as soon as possible with more information. It is a scummy scummy question. ##vote Adam4167 | ||
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