• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:44
CET 22:44
KST 06:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !2Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win1Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Employee Retention in Behavioral Health: Building Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2093 users

Newbie Mini Mafia IV - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 56 Next
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#181
On February 27 2012 02:32 ghost_403 wrote:
@alderan I really don't see any time where it would be advantageous to the town to not lynch. The town should first be lynching scum. If we can't find scum, we should instead lynch people who are not useful to the town. Lurkers fit the second criteria perfectly. By lurking, you are providing cover for the scum to hide, which is in every case bad for the town.

@fourface That's not how you apply pressure on someone to post. This is how you apply pressure on someone to post.

##vote JekyllAndHyde

To Ghost and fourface, what is your reasoning for pressuring JekyllAndHyde specifically? There's plenty of other non-posters, or people posting nothing but 1-2 sentence fluff posts. Any specific reason for Jekyll?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#182
@Janaan Nope. I would love to start lynching into the other non-posters and fluffy posters as well, but alas, I have only one vote. Although, I would expect more posting from a hydra. It seems between the two of them that at least one could post on here "Don't lynch me".
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2012 19:44 GMT
#183
On February 27 2012 04:43 ghost_403 wrote:
@Janaan Nope. I would love to start lynching into the other non-posters and fluffy posters as well, but alas, I have only one vote. Although, I would expect more posting from a hydra. It seems between the two of them that at least one could post on here "Don't lynch me".


What's a hydra?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 19:45 GMT
#184
hydra=two people playing on a single account.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2012 19:52 GMT
#185
On February 27 2012 04:45 Janaan wrote:
hydra=two people playing on a single account.


We have two people playing on the same account? What?
Why do we allow this?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
NightFury
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada114 Posts
February 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#186
I'm back! Going to be reading to catch up and posting soon.

But first...

On February 27 2012 04:52 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 04:45 Janaan wrote:
hydra=two people playing on a single account.


We have two people playing on the same account? What?
Why do we allow this?


Possibly since it's a newbie game and probably isn't the most serious or rigid of games. Maybe the new player isn't completely comfortable playing solo yet? No idea. Getting more people into the game as a whole is very nice to have though.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#187
Hydras are fairly common if players can't committ to being able to play the game full-time. There's actually two in this game, JekyllAndHyde and k2HD. As long as they sign the post with which one of them is doing the posting and we can hold them accountable, it's not really a big deal.
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 20:05:00
February 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#188
NightFury pretty much has the right of it regarding hydras. I think hydras first evolved from a pairing of an experienced player-coach and a newer player posting on the same account. While they often are still used for that purpose, to help newer players learn the ropes not completely on their own, they're also allowed if two players are very interested in playing a game but are worried they won't have time to post every day. I do prefer to minimize the number of hydras in a game, but in a newbie game, it definitely is good to get as many new people involved as we can.

Edit: Janaan is right too. Thanks to both of you for answering Steveling's question so well.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 26 2012 20:11 GMT
#189
On February 27 2012 04:56 NightFury wrote:
I'm back! Going to be reading to catch up and posting soon.

But first...

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 04:52 Steveling wrote:
On February 27 2012 04:45 Janaan wrote:
hydra=two people playing on a single account.


We have two people playing on the same account? What?
Why do we allow this?


Possibly since it's a newbie game and probably isn't the most serious or rigid of games. Maybe the new player isn't completely comfortable playing solo yet? No idea. Getting more people into the game as a whole is very nice to have though.

On February 27 2012 05:00 Janaan wrote:
Hydras are fairly common if players can't committ to being able to play the game full-time. There's actually two in this game, JekyllAndHyde and k2HD. As long as they sign the post with which one of them is doing the posting and we can hold them accountable, it's not really a big deal.

It's basically a combination of these factors. The point of these newbie games is to get as many people interested in playing as possible. Also the idea of playing can be intimidating, and having a friend to work with can add confidence. But most importantly, it allows players who are otherwise too busy to play to still get a taste for the games. And it isn't like these players really get a competitive advantage in a newbie game.
Uff Da
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 26 2012 20:18 GMT
#190
##vote phagga

We should probably spread out our votes, don't need two people on one lurker yet imo.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 26 2012 20:26 GMT
#191
On February 27 2012 04:36 Steveling wrote:
Well not much to be said.
Another typical newbie day one, xDDD.


Would you like me to make another poll XD


any questions anyone?

(Oh and alderaan, earlier I meant that each day we should decided on how to change the way we chose to run things the previous day, as in will stick to the decisions we make right now until the vote, but depending on how the vote goes we can adapt at night to find what works best, that way we can organized but not bound by our own rules.

So the decisions we make should have semi permanence but can be changed at night if they are found to not be useful. Also if the situation calls for it we can of course be flexible, but we do need some semblance of organization if only for the sake of practicing consensus building.)
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
February 26 2012 20:32 GMT
#192
I knew this was going to be fun. Had a LOL moment already; gumshoe says "Glad to have you on our side Alderaan ( : as for absolutes do you mind making decisions like that on a day to day basis?"
and Alderan is like: "What do you mean?"
Seriously wtf did you mean bro?

Anyway I am disapoint about Steveling not reading this thread from start to finish. If he would have realized what a hydra is (i didn't know either until i did read .. THE WHOLE .. thread from START 2 FINISH and my eyes are still functioning properly) (DO THIS NOW if you haven't already GOOGG we'll be waiting THANK YOU!)

Also certain circumstances made it so that I already have an idea of a case bait set up. The trap is up and running as we speak. At this point I can only say that there's an elephant in the room and whether people see it or not, mention it or not will give a mass check on all

@Janaan why JekyllAndHyde and not some other lurker? I don't know, lynch me
I don't know, lynch me!
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
February 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#193
sniped by gumshoe but i still don't know what you mean and why you talk like the riddler
I don't know, lynch me!
NightFury
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada114 Posts
February 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#194
Okay!

I propose that we resolve the most pressing issues today and worry about the less vital ones for night 1 if needed. It seems like the lynch or no-lynch day 1 is the most pressing issue at hand. I'm beginning to think that a time based voting system won't be critical on day 1 if we can all agree to a specific day 1 strategy. This way we can focus on the task at hand and get good discussion and worry about the finer details of other issues during the night so we can all be ready for day 2.

It appears, in general, that the consensus for lynching a lurker for day 1 is acceptable. Looking at risk/reward - lynching a mafia on day 1 has great rewards whereas lynching a lurker townie isn't the biggest loss (still a loss nonetheless). Therefore, I'm still on board for no no-lynch day 1 and going after a lurker.

I propose we set a soft deadline today for confirming a lurker target. The game has been going for less than 24 hours and I know people's weekends can be a bit random when it comes to availability. I think, at most, we should give a full in-game 24 hours to at least post a) anything and b) some form of contribution. Once again, great for getting discussion rolling and looking at how people interact with each other. In the event everyone is present and participating, we can have a full discussion on how we handle day 1 as well.

While this can be discussed later on if needed, I am still a fan of one or two stage soft deadline voting. I know there are caveats, but I personally think everyone should have some responsibility in the game. It'll keep players active which is always great. Janaan, I know you mentioned that a second deadline may cause chaos is there is a bandwagon for not following the system. But if we can get everyone to agree to the system, it will be everyone's responsibility to follow it and they will be responsible for their own actions should they break it. If people are going to be busy (which is completely valid), they should at least inform everyone in advance. I would prefer people communicating with everyone rather than just falling off the face of the planet (although shit does happen which can be unfortunate).

Thoughts/Opinions?
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#195
On February 27 2012 05:26 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 04:36 Steveling wrote:
Well not much to be said.
Another typical newbie day one, xDDD.


Would you like me to make another poll XD


any questions anyone?

Haha, yeah, a poll would be great, why don't we get started on that right away (not really....)

The problem is no one really seems to want to talk, and asking general questions about the game, lynching lurkers, early deadlines, etc can only get us so far. I'm not sure how best to proceed right now to get everyone talking.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#196
On February 27 2012 05:32 FourFace wrote:
I knew this was going to be fun. Had a LOL moment already; gumshoe says "Glad to have you on our side Alderaan ( : as for absolutes do you mind making decisions like that on a day to day basis?"
and Alderan is like: "What do you mean?"
Seriously wtf did you mean bro?

Anyway I am disapoint about Steveling not reading this thread from start to finish. If he would have realized what a hydra is (i didn't know either until i did read .. THE WHOLE .. thread from START 2 FINISH and my eyes are still functioning properly) (DO THIS NOW if you haven't already GOOGG we'll be waiting THANK YOU!)

Also certain circumstances made it so that I already have an idea of a case bait set up. The trap is up and running as we speak. At this point I can only say that there's an elephant in the room and whether people see it or not, mention it or not will give a mass check on all

@Janaan why JekyllAndHyde and not some other lurker? I don't know, lynch me


four face look up

(above your post, your insult timing was just a second late)
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
NightFury
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada114 Posts
February 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#197
Also, I'm off to go make myself lunch and some other things! Be back in about an hour or less.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 20:41 GMT
#198
On February 27 2012 05:32 FourFace wrote:
@Janaan why JekyllAndHyde and not some other lurker? I don't know, lynch me

Not an attack, I was just wondering if there was a certain reason why you picked him. If not, fine.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
February 26 2012 21:06 GMT
#199
On February 27 2012 05:34 NightFury wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Okay!

I propose that we resolve the most pressing issues today and worry about the less vital ones for night 1 if needed. It seems like the lynch or no-lynch day 1 is the most pressing issue at hand. I'm beginning to think that a time based voting system won't be critical on day 1 if we can all agree to a specific day 1 strategy. This way we can focus on the task at hand and get good discussion and worry about the finer details of other issues during the night so we can all be ready for day 2.

It appears, in general, that the consensus for lynching a lurker for day 1 is acceptable. Looking at risk/reward - lynching a mafia on day 1 has great rewards whereas lynching a lurker townie isn't the biggest loss (still a loss nonetheless). Therefore, I'm still on board for no no-lynch day 1 and going after a lurker.

I propose we set a soft deadline today for confirming a lurker target. The game has been going for less than 24 hours and I know people's weekends can be a bit random when it comes to availability. I think, at most, we should give a full in-game 24 hours to at least post a) anything and b) some form of contribution. Once again, great for getting discussion rolling and looking at how people interact with each other. In the event everyone is present and participating, we can have a full discussion on how we handle day 1 as well.

While this can be discussed later on if needed, I am still a fan of one or two stage soft deadline voting. I know there are caveats, but I personally think everyone should have some responsibility in the game. It'll keep players active which is always great. Janaan, I know you mentioned that a second deadline may cause chaos is there is a bandwagon for not following the system. But if we can get everyone to agree to the system, it will be everyone's responsibility to follow it and they will be responsible for their own actions should they break it. If people are going to be busy (which is completely valid), they should at least inform everyone in advance. I would prefer people communicating with everyone rather than just falling off the face of the planet (although shit does happen which can be unfortunate).

Thoughts/Opinions?


I think I've already made my position clear on this. I also think that setting any kind of deadline 24 hours before the actual vote deadline is too soon. As already stated, I'm fine with somewhere around 8-12 hours before, but any earlier, any vote we end up agreeing on, especially if it's a lurker lynch, is bound to change.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
February 26 2012 21:10 GMT
#200
Yo how come voting deadline is in 6 hours? Is Day[1] only 24 hours long or is it like 24 hours -> vote deadline -> 24 hours -> night
I don't know, lynch me!
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 56 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: GosuLeague
21:20
SWISS Round 5 into Bracket
ZZZero.O47
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 647
ProTech134
elazer 113
JuggernautJason101
SpeCial 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 275
Bonyth 95
ZZZero.O 47
Mong 7
Dota 2
Dendi2836
420jenkins381
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu443
Other Games
Grubby5882
FrodaN1444
ceh9447
shahzam301
Fuzer 258
mouzStarbuck189
C9.Mang089
Trikslyr53
Mew2King1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV119
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• Hupsaiya 12
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1311
League of Legends
• TFBlade1438
Other Games
• imaqtpie2291
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
3h 16m
WardiTV 2025
14h 16m
MaNa vs Gerald
TBD vs MaxPax
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs ShoWTimE
OSC
17h 16m
YoungYakov vs Mixu
ForJumy vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
The PondCast
1d 12h
WardiTV 2025
1d 15h
Cure vs Creator
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.