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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 05 2012 21:30 GMT
#1461
haha I was trying to stop this wording nonsense by saying it's forbidden, but the rule is actually strokethrough :D

11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
Who the heck cares?!
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 21:32 GMT
#1462
Ok, Im home.

I shall be engaging in filter reading and PMs with anyone interested. I can also be reached on aim, PM me for the aim info.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 21:41 GMT
#1463
On Liquid`Sheth-
You are either playing an amazingly bad game as town or going for a hilarious wifom gambit as scum. The longer the game goes on the more I think the latter which is not how it usually goes in cases like this. I feel like your lies are just too much to take at this point. Leaning towards scum

On Bill Murray-
Lurker. Thinking maybe scum or 3rd party. Leaning towards 3rd party.

On Jayjay54-
He says he shot me last night. I didn't get a message about being shot. I think Nisani201 said he did get a message about being shot once with a bodygaurd message in there. If Nisani201 hasn't received any info on being shot since he became an ocean we cant conclude anything about Jay based on his claimed shot. If I ever get shot again and receive a message then I will look closer. His case on me seems legit pre my claim. Prolly town.

On Nisani201-
A flip on sheth would make me feel 100% either way about Nisani. You have pretty much played a very cautious game and thats not what you should be doing with the role you have at this point in time.

On EchelonTee-
Fairly sure he is town based on out of thread (oot) items.


These guys I dont raelly know yet. If anyone can add to my understanding via oot talking pls do so especially if your evidence helps to understand these people:

Kenpachi
evantrees
blubbdavid
Bluelightz
Ciryandor
Forumite
GreYmist

I am up for a Bill Murray or Sheth lynch as of right now.

Deadline is 20 minutes or so away or 1 day and 20 so minutes away? The latter right?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#1464
On March 06 2012 06:22 vaderseven wrote:
Clearly state the full range of abilities of the man.


So that doesn't get lost.

Sheth, please answer this asap.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 05 2012 22:36 GMT
#1465
On March 06 2012 06:41 vaderseven wrote:
On Liquid`Sheth-
You are either playing an amazingly bad game as town or going for a hilarious wifom gambit as scum. The longer the game goes on the more I think the latter which is not how it usually goes in cases like this. I feel like your lies are just too much to take at this point. Leaning towards scum

On Bill Murray-
Lurker. Thinking maybe scum or 3rd party. Leaning towards 3rd party.

On Jayjay54-
He says he shot me last night. I didn't get a message about being shot. I think Nisani201 said he did get a message about being shot once with a bodygaurd message in there. If Nisani201 hasn't received any info on being shot since he became an ocean we cant conclude anything about Jay based on his claimed shot. If I ever get shot again and receive a message then I will look closer. His case on me seems legit pre my claim. Prolly town.

On Nisani201-
A flip on sheth would make me feel 100% either way about Nisani. You have pretty much played a very cautious game and thats not what you should be doing with the role you have at this point in time.

On EchelonTee-
Fairly sure he is town based on out of thread (oot) items.


These guys I dont raelly know yet. If anyone can add to my understanding via oot talking pls do so especially if your evidence helps to understand these people:

Kenpachi
evantrees
blubbdavid
Bluelightz
Ciryandor
Forumite
GreYmist

I am up for a Bill Murray or Sheth lynch as of right now.

Deadline is 20 minutes or so away or 1 day and 20 so minutes away? The latter right?


The latter
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 22:48 GMT
#1466
Ok deadline is tomorrow. Current votes are:

bluelightz (2) - Jayjay54, Liquid`Sheth
Forumite (1) - EchelonTee

--------------------------------------------

JayJay wrote:

The case on bluelightz is:

1) Zero content.
2) Fake DT check.
3) Not defending his DT check, but disappearing.
4) Randomly shooting into people after previously DTing.
5) Shot was not confirmed.


Thats a really good case. Reading Bluelightz filter makes me fairly sure he should be taken care of soon.

--------------------------------------------------

The case on Forumite is:

On March 05 2012 13:03 EchelonTee wrote:
I realize I haven't contributed much this game at all, so I shouldn't really be in any one's "pro town" list.

Forumite got vig'd by Bluelightz, but Formuite didn't die. What gives?

There are 13 of us alive. I do not think we should mass claim for another day cycle; the benefit of claiming would be to sort out powers and sniff out who is lying, but with so many people atm it would be easy for scum / 3rd parties to claim something like "i'm a vet/i'm a vig" and get away with nothing while learning everyone else's remaining roles.

My #1 scum/black read is Forumite. He has been fairly active throughout the game, but hasn't had any solid opinions on anyone since Day 1 or 2. All he does is say stuff like "hmm this person seems fairly confirmed but I'm suspicious of him"; the tone of said posts make me feel that he is just posting on the thread happenings without making any strong stands. If he was scum/3rd party (i suspect he's black, night kill immunity or something), then this would match up. Him not accusing anyone strongly is fine and dandy if all he has to do is wait til everyone else kills each other.

Also, Mattchew suggested I nuke Forumite, before Mattchew was killed. This prompted me to look over Forumite's filter more.


This is a decent case. I shall re-read Forumite's filter with this case in mind as true and again as not true and see what I feel/think/conclude.

Reading his filter leaves me at a lose. He DID accuse sheth and made a huge case on him.

--------------------------

of those two cases (the ones people are voting for so far, I much more support the case on bluelightz

--------------------------

If a nuke DOES land on me today lynch sheth asap. That man, in my book, has used up every strike in the "lynch all liars" (LAL) book and if he lied about his lie about nuking then he is 100% some kind of anti town align/role.


-------------------------

Unsure/Can be anything:
  • GreYmist
  • Ciryandor
  • Forumite
  • Kenpachi
  • evantrees


Leaning Scum or anti town 3rd Party:
  • Liquid`Sheth*
  • Bluelightz


Leaning 3rd Party (could be anti town or anti scum or just pro himself):
  • Bill Murray**


Leaning town:
  • EchelonTee
  • Jayjay54
  • Nisani201***
  • blubbdavid****


13/31 alive

* - Liquid'Sheth... Why so many lies? Your saving grace is that you keep claiming a 'decent motive' (wifom and useless... not a good thing to have as your saving grace) and that Nisani201 / Mattchew (mattchew flipped town) seem to confirm at least your original role. If this player is town he needs to approach the game different starting now and I expect him to do so. I have a nuke and your next anti-town move or post will result in an unconditional launching of said nuke at you.

** - My read of 3rd Party on BM is a big part meta of his play that I have seen in other games. His posting style seems to just be way to an under the radar for the way he plays even when in a power role for town position.

*** - Nisani201 will need a close new look if Sheth ever dies and flips red/black. His play without Sheth in mind has been lackluster but townish.

**** - I have a strong personal read on this player's play as fitting 100% with a player that has never played forum mafia before and is a town player.

##vote Bluelightz

If you guys want, I will launch my nuke at Liquid'Sheth today. I have no personal logic that says I shouldn't beyond the fact that he has become such a center role in alot of the things I talked about so I might not be the most objective about if it is a solid use.

Please, everyone, post for me a clear one of these:

VaderSeven, nuke Sheth.

or

VaderSeven, do NOT nuke Sheth.

Formatting doesn't matter, just make sure its SUPER CLEAR AND THAT I NOTICE IT.

Keep in mind that if he turns out to have lied about anything else in this game at all I will launch regardless unless a large part of the player base is like DO NOT DO IT.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 22:50 GMT
#1467
Kenpachi

Might be trolling and hating this game or an anti-town role/alignment. I can't decide.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 05 2012 22:51 GMT
#1468
boo
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
March 05 2012 22:59 GMT
#1469
Hm, let me think of some more lies to tell you. Gullible isn't in the dictionary!

I don't know why you think I'm scum yet vote on the guy I'm voting for. Half your logic makes no sense. Why are you thinking nisani is town but me not? Either way if you nuke me I'm dead and you'll know for sure that I was just a lovable ocean for a while who wanted to stir things up and win in the end.

bluelightz is the easy scum find tho, I'd also be worried about Kenpachi. These are two great targets to get rid of today, Bluelightz is obviously the best.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#1470
On March 06 2012 07:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hm, let me think of some more lies to tell you. Gullible isn't in the dictionary!

I don't know why you think I'm scum yet vote on the guy I'm voting for. Half your logic makes no sense.


Sheth you are looking at things so one dimensional. Look up "Bussing." Here is a good low down on it. Bussing is a term used to describe when one of the Mafia leads a lynch against another Mafia member to gain the trust of the Town. Especially given your lack of adding to the case on Bluelightz your vote has nothing to add to the discussion of your alignment.

On March 06 2012 07:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Why are you thinking nisani is town but me not? Either way if you nuke me I'm dead and you'll know for sure that I was just a lovable ocean for a while who wanted to stir things up and win in the end.


If nisani was acting as scummy as you are and had lied at all I would be all over him. I have him under a micro scope because of the whole interaction between you, mattchew, and him. Mattchew flipping town and Nisani's claims and actions fitting with what I know about this game are the only reason I am not voting and/or nuking you.

On March 06 2012 07:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
bluelightz is the easy scum find tho, I'd also be worried about Kenpachi. These are two great targets to get rid of today, Bluelightz is obviously the best.


I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.


Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
March 05 2012 23:19 GMT
#1471
On March 06 2012 08:11 vaderseven wrote:
[
I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.




Fair enough.

I'm debating playing this game purely to see how confused I can make you.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 05 2012 23:20 GMT
#1472
On March 06 2012 07:50 vaderseven wrote:
Kenpachi

Might be trolling and hating this game or an anti-town role/alignment. I can't decide.

Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:24 GMT
#1473
On March 06 2012 08:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 08:11 vaderseven wrote:
[
I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.




Fair enough.

I'm debating playing this game purely to see how confused I can make you.


Thats pretty confusing so gg. I mean, you required to play to win and I just don't even see how a play style dedicated to that fits with that.

What game ARE you playing?

Also,

On March 06 2012 06:42 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 06:22 vaderseven wrote:
Clearly state the full range of abilities of the man.


So that doesn't get lost.

Sheth, please answer this asap.


Ya, still waiting.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
March 05 2012 23:24 GMT
#1474
On March 06 2012 08:24 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 08:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:11 vaderseven wrote:
[
I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.




Fair enough.

I'm debating playing this game purely to see how confused I can make you.


Thats pretty confusing so gg. I mean, you required to play to win and I just don't even see how a play style dedicated to that fits with that.

What game ARE you playing?

Also,

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 06:42 vaderseven wrote:
On March 06 2012 06:22 vaderseven wrote:
Clearly state the full range of abilities of the man.


So that doesn't get lost.

Sheth, please answer this asap.


Ya, still waiting.


Still not answering.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:25 GMT
#1475
On March 06 2012 08:20 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 07:50 vaderseven wrote:
Kenpachi

Might be trolling and hating this game or an anti-town role/alignment. I can't decide.



If you are trolling then you mean the opposite of what your smilely would indicate yet if you are anti-town then you wouldn't suggest that.

Between you and Sheth my head is gonna 'splode.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:26 GMT
#1476
On March 06 2012 08:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 08:24 vaderseven wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:11 vaderseven wrote:
[
I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.




Fair enough.

I'm debating playing this game purely to see how confused I can make you.


Thats pretty confusing so gg. I mean, you required to play to win and I just don't even see how a play style dedicated to that fits with that.

What game ARE you playing?

Also,

On March 06 2012 06:42 vaderseven wrote:
On March 06 2012 06:22 vaderseven wrote:
Clearly state the full range of abilities of the man.


So that doesn't get lost.

Sheth, please answer this asap.


Ya, still waiting.


Still not answering.


Oh, ok why?
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
March 05 2012 23:28 GMT
#1477
On March 06 2012 08:26 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 08:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:24 vaderseven wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On March 06 2012 08:11 vaderseven wrote:
[
I agree but I think you are stating something fairly obvious. I would feel *a lot* better about you if you ADDED something NEW to the game that WASN'T A LIE.




Fair enough.

I'm debating playing this game purely to see how confused I can make you.


Thats pretty confusing so gg. I mean, you required to play to win and I just don't even see how a play style dedicated to that fits with that.

What game ARE you playing?

Also,

On March 06 2012 06:42 vaderseven wrote:
On March 06 2012 06:22 vaderseven wrote:
Clearly state the full range of abilities of the man.


So that doesn't get lost.

Sheth, please answer this asap.


Ya, still waiting.


Still not answering.


Oh, ok why?


Its not my place.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
March 05 2012 23:32 GMT
#1478
We´re done with the war of the oceans? Finally!

Bluelightz, why? What´s making him scum? He did look bad yesterday with his redcheck on Sheth, but if that´s the reason to lynch, why didn´t we lynch him yesterday?
:3
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:34 GMT
#1479
On February 28 2012 07:43 Nisani201 wrote:
OK here goes:

I am a compulsive framer and white supremacist. If I visit a black person I kill them.

I claimed my role to Sheth (Sheth claimed black to me) and Greymist. If sheth is town then greymist is either black mafia or knows of a black person in the mafia.


On February 28 2012 07:44 Nisani201 wrote:
also i guess i'm a veteran but that wasn't in the role PM. It's possible that i got medic protected.


On March 03 2012 01:49 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Oh, I framed Jaybrundage just to explain what I did there, so if you checked him well its a framed check. I did this cuz nisani said that was who he was going to frame I believe before he got switched.


So you are saying thats not your claimed role?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 05 2012 23:38 GMT
#1480
Also, does black refer to a status that is on some players or does it refer to the notion of Black names are 3rd party?

Nisani or Sheth, feel free to answer.

Unless thats not your role Sheth. Then just stop posting cuz you will have not posted a single helpful thing all game long.
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