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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote: just fyi the wink face was totally unnecessary
It was revenge for the liquidbet. :D
I missed CJ/Woongjin and KT/STX matches though so I'm probably going to drop behind
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 13:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You have a super pro town role that based on actions in thread was no used in said fashion, and you have, much like myself, cared near 0 for the outcome of this game overall. Do either of these things make you scum? Not necessarily however they don't make you town either.
Lets not make baseless assumptions about how much effort I've put into the game.
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If I die, don't throw things away. Don't fall for an appeal to emotion or fear mongering. I wouldn't be surprised if the scum team comes up with some sort of convenient role claim tomorrow to somehow prove they are town or prove that another player must be scum. Even if the scum team were to use a kp on themselves, I probably wouldn't buy it.
Here are the facts: bugs claimed to be a weak doctor protecting me. As he lived, he would know 100% that I am town. I roleclaimed to him in the thread informing that toad was green. In response, he refused to move his vote despite the role claim. He tried to argue that the player he admitted couldn't be scum was lying to him. Upon RoL's flip, he comes up with some conspiracy story how he was roleblocked and came to the conclusion that I must be scum, not the people who were refusing to kill RoL.
He claims to be a weak doctor, but never breadcrumbs his role. Knowing that he could flip weak doctor, he tells us to kill DrH upon death, not his target syllo. He scum slipped in the quicktopic, revealing that mafia only had 1 kp on night one. He clearly states that he thinks RoL is scum, yet refuses to vote for him even after the green check.
BC has been pushing mislynch after mislynch jumping on bandwagons for really weak reasons. After saying he would be willing to vote RoL yesterday, he refuses at LYLO. Look at the day one events how all his scumbuddies had to vote together to save him. That is why red's flip was masked. I expect he will put more effort into the game now to defend himself, than to actually hunt for scum the previous 4 days.
Save Layabout for last. Remember that the qt partners can be guessed or that a mafia could pass along the correct pairing.
I have a green check on cwave. He is confirmed town.
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kitaman27
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I also didn't hide last night if the scum team somehow tries to use that as a reason for my death.
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So at 6v3 as a weak doctor you decided to use your power knowing that if VE was scum, you would die and the two mafia kp would end the game with 3v3. You were so confident on your read (a person that you told me you thought was scum in the quicktopic) that you decided that submitting a medic action was worth risking the game?
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kitaman27
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On March 04 2012 07:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 07:43 layabout wrote: Last night i masoned Jitsu and cwave.
last night Tyrran did not because he is not the operator.
Tyrran is scum. This is confirmed to me. ##Vote Tyrran funny move. I'd say we wait another night and let you announce the next one first. How do you think he knew about the 2 people masoned? In the meantime WBG looks like a decent target.
Exactly.
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kitaman27
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Layabout announces who he is going to mason before hand.
Tyrran submits a team that isn't what layabout announces.
Problem solved.
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kitaman27
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Palmar either forgot or there was a roleblock.
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On March 03 2012 06:00 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 05:56 kitaman27 wrote: Do you plan to switch off toad, layabout? Well he is scum, so no.
I like how it took you 24 hours to point out that you were counter-claimed and you have failed to comment on the aftermath of yesterday's lynch.
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On March 04 2012 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote: kita, please answer the question you never answered in the QT:
if you're actually what you say you are why wouldn't you check syllo n1? Why not syllo n2? Why not me?
Because I chose to check jackal instead.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You do realize I have yet to push a lynch?
You do realize that isn't something that makes you pro-town right? It's day five and you have yet to push a lynch. Even in this post, you are more interested in defending yourself than suggesting who we should target moving forward.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You have yet to scum hunt correctly as RoL is someone no single player can take credit of. How many people called him out for his behaviour? Any mafia would want him dead as he would be dead weight at this point in time, and any town would want him dead.
Then why were you and bugs so dedicated to keep him alive? If everyone wanted him dead, why did you refuse to vote for him? Instead, you're voting for a player who you have never commented over the player you indicated you found as scum.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You make some comment about wbg never crumbing his role, guess what, you "crumbed" once and then opted to never do so thereafter. You also only released your check on a player who had already died and flipped green which is far to convenient.
I released my check before he died. It was only safe once to crumb because from then on I was open to roleblock. Yes, I could have been roleblocked on day one, but the risk/reward made it worth it. I've revealed my green check on cwave last night.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your behaviour this game is as bad as mine is. I am not saying "everyone believe me I am town" because honestly based on my play there is not reason to unless I step it up, however you are guilty of the same shit if not worse.
lol
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hell, you were so certain based on your voting pattern that RoL was scum but you never once confirmed this with your power, you believe myself to be mafia but for all you have claimed in thread you have not checked me.
Checking RoL would have resulted in my death. There is little reason for me to sacrifice myself, when I can get him lynched during the day. Why would I check a scum suspect? I am looking to confirm town players, not kill myself off. I don't need to check you to confirm you as mafia.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why would anyone with the power to take out one of the best mafia players / confirm a solid town player opt to choose for a player who is lurking like cwave or acting erratically like toad? Why is it that if you were so sure of you're own reads that you didn't confirm a new player last night or get a mafia killed for sure?
That's not a serious question right? If I checked a player and died it would have been 3v3 if hits went through. You would have liked that, wouldn't you.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also with the fact that cwave and jitsu at this moment in time don't have a pm from palmar saying they are mason'd then it seems there is most likely a roleblocker in this game. Yet you discount that you could have ever been roleblocked and thus all your checks are 100% accurate.
It's really annoying to have to deal with confirmed townies isn't it. Your scumbuddy bugs is saying that he got roleblocked when protecting me as a weak doctor. Can't have it both ways.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You say that wbg is scummy since he used his power on ve when he could have died and then mafia would have killed bugs + used 2kp? How do you know for a fact they have 2 kp? I saw 0 deaths last night, 0 deaths night 1, 2 night 2, and 1 night 3. How do you know their full kp if no one else does?
Lets not play dumb. Are you saying you can't look at the setup and say scum has at least 1kp + RoL's poison from last night?
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You talk about the poisoner before the poisoner flipped, you talked about a roleblocker before it was essentially outted in thread (well before), you then discount that roleblocker would ever target you. You then use your role in a very wtf manner given how good it is.
Yep confirming the player that was about to get lynched at lylo is an extremely wtf manner of use.
On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: If you can somehow refute this and change my mind then I will be likely to believe you but as things stand now I cannot.
I don't need to refuse this. My actions and yours already have.
The biggest question left to town today is if bugs or BC has the better mafia role to get rid of.
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kitaman27
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toad, would you prefer to lynch bugs or BC first?
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On March 04 2012 10:39 Toadesstern wrote: I'd say bugs tbh but I really don't want to ruin another game :p
You can't lose when both choices are correct
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although it might be more likely that BC is the roleblocker if bugs is trying so hard to prove he is the scum medic
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Kita asks me why I would protect on a night with 2 KP...AFTER a poisoner flipped. So did scum have 2 KP last night? Why wouldn't I protect?
Poisoner is a delayed kp, meaning he kills the night after his death.
On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Anyway if Kita is scum or third party he's going to win this game.
Hopefully as town too.
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Kita asks me why I would protect on a night with 2 KP...AFTER a poisoner flipped. So did scum have 2 KP last night? Why wouldn't I protect? Poisoner is a delayed kp, meaning he kills the night after his death. On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Anyway if Kita is scum or third party he's going to win this game. Hopefully as town too. How do we know that it functions like that in this game? I've never played with a poisoner before. Do we know how medic protections work against poisoned targets?
Dunno, you're supposed to be the medic. You asking how your own role works? :p
On March 05 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote: At any rate there is no plausible explanation for there being 0 KP last night other than me blocking a mafia hit on VE. If there really was 2 KP then someone else also stopped a shot, but that seems unlikely.
Maybe you decided not to shoot?
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2012 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:51 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 05 2012 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Kita asks me why I would protect on a night with 2 KP...AFTER a poisoner flipped. So did scum have 2 KP last night? Why wouldn't I protect? Poisoner is a delayed kp, meaning he kills the night after his death. On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Anyway if Kita is scum or third party he's going to win this game. Hopefully as town too. How do we know that it functions like that in this game? I've never played with a poisoner before. Do we know how medic protections work against poisoned targets? Dunno, you're supposed to be the medic. You asking how your own role works? :p On March 05 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote: At any rate there is no plausible explanation for there being 0 KP last night other than me blocking a mafia hit on VE. If there really was 2 KP then someone else also stopped a shot, but that seems unlikely. Maybe you decided not to shoot? So first you say mafia had 2 KP last night, which contradicts the evidence of the flip. Then you say "maybe mafia decided not to shoot," which by your logic should still leave 1 KP. Which one is it, kita? You can't have it both ways.
You win bugs! I'm not sure how your mafia mechanics work out. Feel free to share.
On March 05 2012 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote: So what gives, kita?
So you're a claimed weak doctor that decides to protect VE knowing that if VE is scum you will die. Instead of announcing in the thread who you protected, you decided to wait until after the night post where there were no deaths. It's almost as if you knew you wouldn't die.
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kitaman27
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oh right, I'm arguing with scum again. 4k here I come.
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2012 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote: I hadn't sent in an action until very late, and Palmar asked me if I wanted to send anything in before he closed. I said alright fine protect VE. Then I just went and did homework.
Lets not talk about interactions with the host. RoL tried that too with his "Palmar told me I had to vote or I'll be modkilled".
Jitsu and Tyrran, will you vote bugs now? We still have to vote together incase of a Floridian. I understand that you want to go after layabout today Tyrran, but the town doesn't have the same information you do. Lets give your operator participants claim another go tomorrow.
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kitaman27
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A glimpse into the mind of bugs:
"Kita can't be scum" "Kita got a scum lynched" "Therefore, Kita must be scum"
QED
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kitaman27
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[QUOTE]On March 06 2012 04:44 Jitsu wrote: But Cwave was confirmed as a Town player, by kita. So that would mean that, all of Tyrran, Cwave, and kita would be the last remaining Scum. [QUOTE]
If me, Tyrrann, and Cwave are all scum, then why do we all vote RoL yesterday?
If all the town players are on the mislynch and all the scum players are on the legit lynch, then why isn't the game over? You're looking for conspiracy theories instead of looking at logic. You shouldn't have to go with your gut, there is more than enough evidance supporting the fact that wherebugsgo is scum.
I'll respond to BC at 4pm Est, but I have to go to a talk right now.
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