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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#90
Thanks Zeph!

I'm totally posting a smiley after death to show Palmar that I'm not afraid of his wrath.

##vote tyrran
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 22:24 GMT
#110
It's always funny to see people jump in to defend a player with no posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#120
On February 21 2012 07:24 redFF wrote:
Day 1 is usually somewhat of a crapshoot in 48/24 games. Policy lynches are good, embrace them.


On May 31 2011 06:01 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 05:59 sandroba wrote:
EBWODP: That should have read we policy lynch ANYONE who claims without valuable information or lies about their role.

I generally don't like policy lynches, because there are always special circumstances.


On November 10 2011 09:51 redFF wrote:
meh i wanted to win and to win you have to take human error into account. Policy lynches are terrible. Yeah we could have policy lynched and taught GM a lesson but we would have lost.


These quotes come from couples therapy and ptp2. You were town both games. So why the change in play-style red?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 22:38 GMT
#128
On February 21 2012 07:36 redFF wrote:
To elaborate, i've been playing a lot of mafia recently and my mind has been changed. I had something of a mafia epiphany.


Is this the standard mafia "opps I got caught in a discrepancy". Time to claim change in playstyle!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 22:39 GMT
#129
HI ROL!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 23:50 GMT
#158
On February 21 2012 08:48 redFF wrote:
The policy lynch suggestion and push was more a way to get get reactions and generate discussion(which it succeeded at).

thanks tyyran,

##unvote

VE is also back to null, this looks like dumb bc shooting ve-town being dumb bc shooting ve-town.


So to be clear, you did not have a mafia epiphany causing a change in playstyle to support policy lynches? Instead you pushed the policy simply to generate discussion?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 20 2012 23:54 GMT
#161
On February 21 2012 08:51 redFF wrote:
No I still like and would be down with a policy lynch but I know realistically it probably won't happen.


Then why are you thanking tyrran? He's the guy you still want to lynch, isn't he? Why give up 1 hour into the 48 hour cycle?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 21 2012 00:47 GMT
#174
On February 21 2012 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser?


He's linsane.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 21 2012 01:39 GMT
#187
BAM! VE puts bugs in his place
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 21 2012 15:25 GMT
#283
On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote:
RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much.

Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided.

I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy...


This type of language makes you look scummy. If you don't know what to think about an action, why are you bringing it up? Providing no opinion is essentially summarizing, which is an easy way to contribute without contributing. If you think someone is scummy call it scummy. Calling things weird doesn't say anything one way or another.

On February 21 2012 11:14 redFF wrote:
kita:
votes tyrran in his first post of the game.
Attacks me for pushing a policy lynch(which he is on) when i called them bad 4 months ago.
thinks he's caught me in a mafia meta contradiction when really my policy regarding policy lynches has just changed.

He was also grilling me for a few posts before stopping and going back to pointless fluff, while placing a vote on me without announcing it in thread.
so erm ##vote kita


Without announcing it in the thread? lol you act as if I'm voting you without ever mentioning you. Who cares if I post it in the thread.

Yes, I voted tyrran in the first post of the game. I do that in most games. Do you believe that's scummy?

Yes, I attacked you for your discrepancy in opinion, does that make me scummy?

Have any of the reasons in your omgus vote pointed to me being scummy?

You pushed a policy lynch and immediately backed off an hour into the game after getting in trouble. You didn't even mention that you still wanted to lynch tyrran. Instead it took my questioning for you to even bring it up. If tyrran was your preferred lynch, why did you switch to me hours later? You said you dropped tyrran because you didn't think you could get him lynched. Does that mean you're more confident that you can push my lynch? Or is it that you are simply attacking your attacker?

You discredited the ability to scum hunt on day one, push a policy lynch because of a mafia epiphany, drop the policy lynch because you were simply generating discussion, go back to supporting the policy lynch after being questioned, and then swap to the guy who is questioning the policy lynch.

Nap time. As much as I enjoy talking about red, I'll try to look at everyone else when I wake up.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 03:23 GMT
#462
Dang it, I'm a sucker for blue claims. Funny to see the votes pile up on red after the claim, rather than before. On one hand, a mafia player who is set to die should always be claiming blue, but on the other, his claim ties up a potential roleblocker. Tracker is a tricky claim because even confirming it doesn't necessarily mean he isn't a mafia stalker or something. I'll be keeping my vote on him for the moment.

Now to everyone else:

I've enjoyed comedy hour with Jackal, but his filter is completely void of content. Not a single post showing he isn't just along for the ride.

Toad appears to be going through post-Arkham depression or something. A lot of fluff and he isn't very willing to share his reads.

On February 22 2012 11:14 prplhz wrote:
Okay I don't think that redFF is scum because he's been pretty out there. The scummiest he has done in my opinion is his claim which was oddly timed. Right now he's a terribly easy lynch, because we'll have to lynch him at some point. I'd like to see wherebugsgo explain how everything redFF has done can be explained by scum motivation and can not be explained by town motivation. The worst thing about this whole redFF thing is that the lynch is so easy that everybody can just pile onto him and then the day is kinda ruined, we aren't going to find anybody else. I don't think that redFF is scum because he's just been putting himself too much in the line of fire.


On February 22 2012 11:14 prplhz wrote:
I'll vote redFF to avoid no lynch. I kinda assume that this is an extended majority lynch where we can end up in a no lynch sitaution, but the OP doesn't really say anything about that. But like, redFF probably isn't scum, come on. There's also plenty good in having him around since scum can't role block anybody else no matter redFF's alignment. The lynch today comes down to "We very likely have to lynch redFF at some point, should it be today or do we have something better?". Right now, I think it's too early to say.


These two statements by prpl completely contradict each other. You argue how you don't think red is scum, but you're willing to vote him to avoid no lynch? How does that make sense? If you're going to argue that he really is blue, then of course a no lynch would be more beneficial. How about push a different lynch if red isn't your priority? This is really poor from him.

I know I already picked on Dirkzor for his language, but I'm going to do it again.

On February 21 2012 07:03 Dirkzor wrote:
The positive part is that I already have something to critisize... Good job on starting discussion.


"Hey guys. Look at me and my protown attitude!"

On February 22 2012 02:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I'll give my honest opinion so far...


Only scum say this.

On February 22 2012 05:03 Dirkzor wrote:
Wat? I'm glad you have that big confidence in my ability as town but I can't magicly make me notice scum... I notice what I notice when I notice it. And when I do I post it. So far this game I got jack.


Lack of aggression and confidence.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 03:24 GMT
#464
On February 22 2012 12:23 Jackal58 wrote:
All I have at my disposal this game is my vote. And I don't know where it's going yet.


"hey guys. Look at me quote the standard generic town role pm."

*wink wink*
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 03:38 GMT
#470
On February 22 2012 12:30 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 12:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 22 2012 12:23 Jackal58 wrote:
All I have at my disposal this game is my vote. And I don't know where it's going yet.


"hey guys. Look at me quote the standard generic town role pm."

*wink wink*

I rolled a 788 tonight Kita. Kiss my derriere.


It was awful nice of them to turn the bumpers on just for you.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 03:58 GMT
#478
On February 22 2012 12:56 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 I thought it was majority lynch back then so I said that I'd vote redFF to avoid no lynch. I think it's plurality lynch now and we'll see what I do. I'm pretty sure I said in a game not 4 months ago that I prefer no-lynches to lynches. Right now, I'm contradicting myself and that makes me scum? If I back down them I'm also contradicting myself (cf. the argument you made against redFF in the beginning of this game) and this also making me scum?


Yikes, did I touch on a sensitive issue?

On February 22 2012 12:56 prplhz wrote:
I support lynches because redFF could conceivably be scum, I just don't think so. I just like a flip and this is my subjective opinion, it doesn't really make sense to discuss it right now.


lol
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 21:14 GMT
#657
Just got out of class, totally blanked on the fact that the deadline was in the afternoon rather than evening. I'll try to quickly catch up on the thread and post asap.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#725
On February 23 2012 05:29 syllogism wrote:
Kita I know you have been around and yet do not care enough to even post. This is the second game in a row you have been completely worthless in thread and at least in arkham you were town. Is this your new standard of play?


No need to call people worthless in games you haven't played. It isn't the first time you've done it and it isn't constructive. I haven't been completely absent in this game, I've had classes for the last 7 hours.

On February 22 2012 23:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 21:59 syllogism wrote:
As I noted earlier, I do not think it's likely that the setup has a scum tracker but no town tracker. Therefore the town tracker can just counter claim him, but I doubt that's going to happen as it's more likely that he is our town tracker. These are assumptions, but reasonable and likely ones. Anyway, I don't think he is town because of his claim, but due to other aforementioned evidence and rationale.

What if there are 2 separate scum factions Syllo? Palmar states that multiple factions are a possibility in the OP.


Are you questioning whether red could be scum, just not from the same scum faction as yours? Because that's sure is a strange question to ask from a town perspective.

Jackal has a really poor filter and I think we should consider him tomorrow.

On February 23 2012 01:05 Tyrran wrote:
There is the possibility that red is 3rd faction. That could explain several thing.


mmk, so now rather than a separate scum faction, he might be third party? Scummy conclusion to make.

blazing has moved his vote around plenty of times on the first day, which is a heuristic that generally points town. He can live.

The biggest thing about BC is his view of red. He goes from having a null/"bad" read on red to voting him based on the claim. What I'm wondering is if redff plans to save himself with his vote. Catching up on the posts that were made since typing this up, then I'll make my decision. (yay for last minute swings)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#744
I'll be staying on red. *cross fingers*
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 22:03 GMT
#751
On February 23 2012 06:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why is that scummy? It's a completely valid point, in fact the signup post even implies there is a third party.


Because a town player questions if a scummy player is scum. A scum player questions if a scum player is third party. They know he can't be scum.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 22 2012 22:07 GMT
#762
I better not have been tricked into playing a no flip game :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 23 2012 01:57 GMT
#800
chaoser's got this.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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