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kitaman27
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I'll give my thoughts in a bit (assuming I'm alive ) | ||
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Aww I knew you wouldn't let me down! <3 | ||
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A zero kp setup seems extremely difficult to balance, especially for a "normal game". Scum might have a poisoner (in which we wouldn't have a notification), town might have ton of roles punishing mistakes, or scum might have some sort of conditional kp, but it seems much more likely they missed on their hits. On February 24 2012 06:59 wherebugsgo wrote: If I die, 100% kill Dr. H. Last time when he was scum I pressured him (albeit harder and during the day, since I actually had time) and then ended up dying. This makes me feel good about bugs since its certainly true from lotr. Additionally, he didn't spearhead the lynch on day one, which is a common bugs scum pattern. I was somewhat weirded out by the "I love you" comments, since he did the exact same thing with chaoser in arkham, but I disagree with VE that he is the best lynch for today. syllo has more posts on day one than he usually does in an entire game as scum. Unless he has drastically changed his scum game, he is looking town. It's already been said, but I'll agree that an inactive RoL is a scum RoL. He promised a good showing, but right now he being considered for a lynch. Got anything to say? I dislike people passing off prpl as bad. He had a monster scum game in the large game hosted by GM and had a good showing in responsibility. That being said, his "I don't think red is scum, but I'll vote for him to secure the lynch" post is really poor. It was really early in the day, why isn't he providing an alternate lynch candidate instead? Additionally, his posting has been really defensive and it shows that not getting himself lynched seems to be a priority. nuke hasn't done any scum hunting. His explanation for his vote was "because syllo said so". I'll see if I can come up with a better case on someone tomorrow, possibly chaoser. | ||
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risk, after this post where you provide an extremely weak reason for your lynch target after providing no substance the entire first day, On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo. You proceed to not post the entire night. Now that the day is almost half way over, the only thing you're going to give us is a jpeg and a complaint about a lynch that you were completely absent for? No thoughts on today's lynch? Not looking good. On February 24 2012 19:52 Dirkzor wrote: Why are you downplayer your abilities prplhz? Seems scummy to me. Combined with "I was hoping I'd get ignored (yea, you're probably going to jump on that word) until I had some more confidence in my reads" (yes i'm jumping it) it sound like you just want to lurk and it was a pain for you to get called out on it. I picked up on the same thing. Class time, be back in a couple hours. | ||
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Think about it. He's not available whenever a Knicks game is on. He can't post until 9:30 when the game is over? He is completely useless yesterday. Sound familiar? (1 for 11?) bugs, what do you think about nuke? Inactive town or lurking scum? | ||
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On February 25 2012 05:33 wherebugsgo wrote: Also I suppose I'm biased since BH attacked risk and I think BH is scum. On a slightly related note, based on the way BH refuses to comment on RoL he makes both himself and RoL look terrible. There was a time yesterday when BH was a legitimate lynch candidate, yet I can't really find you commenting on him. Was there a reason that changed your mind or was it simply because you felt red was the better lynch? | ||
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On February 25 2012 05:58 prplhz wrote: Can we please lynch Blazinghand? You aren't going to make me read through his filter are you? I think one of the reasons nobody looked at jayjay in arkham was because his filter was too long as well -_- | ||
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On February 25 2012 19:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Given that your extra vote was never factored into the vote as far as I can see it at the moment I am going to call bullshit on your claim. That's a weird conclusion to come to. Rather than to ask him to submit his Floridian vote right now to confirm his role, you're going to accuse him of fake claiming? I find it strange that you instantly jump to the idea that he is a liar, rather than attempting to get more information on the situation. Blazinghand can you confirm that your role shows up in the vote count? That being said, Floridian is generally a scum role. nuke, I don't ever recall you playing this poorly. I think you would be a terrific vig shot (in addition to chaoser) if you are going to refuse to play. Do you have an explanation? Something of note from the claim is the difference in prpl's response from day one to day two: On February 23 2012 03:17 prplhz wrote: I don't think that redFF is scum because his claim timing and his lack of activity was announced in the thread beforehand, his activity and putting-himself-outthere seems very townie. The wagon is also rolling too easy. On February 25 2012 18:20 prplhz wrote: Going to vote Blazinghand. I don't see any reason to believe his claim. ##Vote: Blazinghand On February 25 2012 18:26 prplhz wrote: If you think your claim so far is enough to convince everybody else that you're town then you shouldn't claim any more. I doubt it so I see no reason why you shouldn't claim everything you have. With red, he is willing to believe the claim immediately and defend him from the lynch. Now with blazing, he shows no willingness to trust the claim and votes for him before he could even clairify his role. In fact, this is the first time in the game where he actually commits to the blazinghand bandwagon. He states earlier how the red lynch is rolling too easy, yet doesn't consider the same idea for the blazinghand lynch. Four hours until the lynch, after I eat I may be writing up a full case against prpl after I finally get around to reading through blazinghand and RoL. | ||
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Of the two players up for lynch, I think RoL is more likely to flip scum. He has only one real contribution today and that contribution includes flawed logic. On February 23 2012 11:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: It's going to be interesting to examine the last few hours of todays lynch since it seemed to generate a bunch of activity. After the almost last minute switch during the day one lynch, RoL decides to examine the results of the switch. He comes to the following conclusions: On February 25 2012 01:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: He's soft defending RedFF by trying to switch over to BC last minute while still saying he thinks RedFF is still possibly scum. If you think he's scum then why switch to BC? It doesn't make sense, then when the town decides on RedFF he marches right back over flip flopping. On February 25 2012 22:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: So yeah, I think RedFF was scum because his behavior before his claim was scummy. His actual claim was really bad in an antitown Now according to RoL's statement, he believes redff and DrH are scumbuddies and that DrH was attempting to save red at the last second. However, DrH was also the person to essentially seal the deal with the redFF lynch when he switched off BC. Therefore, you are arguing that DrH hammered his own scumbuddy and then covered up the results with a no flip. If he is indeed bussing, why is it being covered up? He would look like a hero with a red flip. There is very little reason for a scum player to be voting another scum player (let alone the deciding vote) with no alignment reveal. If anything it makes DrH/BC look connected, not DrH/red. I find is weird that out of all the events that took place on day one, this was the conclusion you came to. | ||
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(anything past 5 may be completely arbitrary) 1.) prplhz: On February 23 2012 03:38 prplhz wrote: What the fuck are you talking about. I complained about the redFF lynch and pushed the BloodyC0bbler lynch. On February 24 2012 13:02 prplhz wrote: I pushed BloodyC0bbler around the time I said that so it's not true when you say that I didn't provide an alternative. On day one, prpl hard defends redff from the lynch, without providing an alternate candidate. He claims to have pushed the BC lynch. Lets take a closer look: On February 23 2012 03:17 prplhz wrote: I think BloodyC0bbler is more scummy, but I think there might be better targets today that I'm more comfortable with. This is like Responsibility Mafia! where BloodyC0bbler was just gone, but he has been scummy so far. On February 23 2012 03:49 prplhz wrote: Since we have dropped the BloodyC0bbler lynch I think that Blazinghand is a good lynch for town, especially if I'm the alternative. On February 23 2012 03:54 prplhz wrote: If BloodyC0bbler is a possiblity then I'm more up for that than anything else. I'm a little unsure of him but he's a ton better than lynching me. On February 23 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote: Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). On February 23 2012 05:24 prplhz wrote: I really doubt that BloodyC0bbler is going to attract enough votes don't you think there are other alternatives that are more likely to flip scum than redFF and more likely to pick up enough votes than BloodyC0bbler? Is this honestly what prpl considers pushing? A bunch of wishy-washy statements without providing any actual reasoning? He constantly brings up how bad he is as if he is trying to downplay his abilities. Now lets move on to day two: He starts off by voting RoL. Towards the end of the day he changes to blazing. His reasoning: On February 25 2012 18:20 prplhz wrote: Going to vote Blazinghand. I don't see any reason to believe his claim. ##Vote: Blazinghand The entire game, the strongest reason prpl has believed someone to be scum is because of a Floridian claim. Not once does he even reference his actual posts or behavior. Looking back to day one, prpl was willing to defend red because the claim made sense to him. The next day, a similar claim is provided and he has no reason to believe it. The entire game prpl has responded poorly to pressure and would be a fine lynch candidate. 2.) RebirthOfLeGenD: You can't get frustrated at peoples concerns if they are legitimate points. You've spent more time defending yourself than contributing. You say you're busy. I can understand that, but the game started a week ago and we're still waiting. The only legitimate case you've given us was on DrH. Is there a reason you chose to ignore my concerns with the case? 3.) chaoser: Tough to make a case on someone who hasn't posted since part way through day one. 4.) BloodyC0bbler: As far as I can tell, the only reason people think you are town is because the day one lynch was close. Is this the same day one lynch whose results were covered? Your voting patterns so far have been extremely opportunistic. Rather than commit to a certain scum suspect, you've waited for the bandwagon to become strong and then jump on quoting a random post that suddenly changes your mind. Maybe you could point me towards what makes you town? 5.) wherebugsgo: lol you seriously didn't roll mafia yet again did you? First BH claims scum and now this? On February 28 2012 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote: @RoL: you're fucking lucky Toad scumslipped so hard, or I'd be pushing you like there's no tomorrow. All you do is lurk lurk lurk and then make excuses for your inactivity. That's exactly what you did when we were teammates in Couples Therapy and it's what you did (IIRC) in Purgatory as well. "gosh darnnit, I'd really love to vote for you RoL, but all these townies are just so easy to push" 6.) risk.nuke: Moderately less scummy because his name isn't chaoser. His replacement has a lot of work to do to salvage the game. 7.) dirkzor: On February 23 2012 07:05 Dirkzor wrote: Hahahahahahahhahahaha... Fuck that was a hilarious "flip" :D Haha: "lol that's annoying" Hahaha: "lol that's really annoying" Hahahahahahahhahahaha: "I didn't have anything to do with that. I swear." 8.) DrH: He has been reasonable in the main thread and questionable in the voting thread. I was really surprised to read that he actually voted for Blazinghand. Looking through his filter, I'm really having trouble find the reasoning for his switch. Could you please point me in the direction? What happened to RoL? You're dropping him for today as well? Why are you ignoring your reads and pushing whoever happens to be the flavor of the day? I'd put you higher if the slots weren't already taken. 9.) VisceraEyes: I'm not reading through his filter. You can't make me. Lets go with 9th. 10.) Toadesstern: Appears to be putting more effort in than any other player. I'll take him to lylo any day. 11.) Tyrran: I'm having trouble finding a scum player out of the newer players. I liked how his opinion on blazing changed from day one to day two. Needs to be more helpful if we wants town to win however. 12.) layabout: I read through his filter last and 12 was the only spot remaining. Congrats. 13.) Jitsu: Seems to be looking for things with a town mindframe. Not really pushing his reads very hard though. 14.) kitaman27: lol the scum team isn't even bothering to try to make this guy look bad. Did they fail a hit on him or something? | ||
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On February 28 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote: I have secrets so go ahead VE, try to lynch me. Really, I feel sorry for you since you have 0 idea what's coming. I love surprises! | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:03 prplhz wrote: I'm not really worried about how you're claiming alchemist, probably just means that BloodyC0bbler is going to vote you. haha best prpl post of the game | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:44 prplhz wrote: Can't you do something instead? You make me smile prpl. | ||
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