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My 1 KP theory is wrong  That leaves us with 3v2 right now under the assumtion that redFF was a townie, right? | ||
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On March 07 2012 19:17 Cwave wrote: Kitaman27 -> 3rd party BloodyCobbler -> Red/?? VisceraEyes -> ?? Layabout -> Red Cwave -> Town Toadesstern -> Town Assuming Redff is town and got concealed at the flip. @ Toadesstern: 2 people died most likely because of the poisoner thing. Poisener is a delayed kill right? Yeah but I thought the poisoner is a 1shot poisoner and he already used it n1. Guess it was a 2shot poisoner? | ||
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On March 08 2012 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I like how I call out (presumably) 3 scums on D1 and I only get a few "???"s. What's a guy gotta do to get some cred up in this piece?  Toad what makes you think the poisoner is 1-shot? the fact that we only had 2 kills on n2 so far and everything else was either 1 dead guy or none. However since we had 2 more dead people most recently that theory obviously is proven wrong and there is bound to be more than a 1-shot poisoner. A poisoner is a delayed flip so that could still explain it although RoL is already dead. I doubt mafia has 2 KP + a 1-shot poisoner because that would mean we had HUGE saves, so 1KP + multi-shot poisoner seems to be reasonable. | ||
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On March 08 2012 06:05 VisceraEyes wrote: The fact that scum are actively pushing the idea of a third party pretty much confirms for me that there isn't one - I think they've been using the idea as a purchasing mechanism for more time. What do you guys think? If there's a third party, I think we're already screwed based on the numbers...but layabout and WBG planting the idea seems desperate to me. I don't care about third parties because again, there was most likely 4 mafias alive when we decided wether to lynch me or RoL. There were 4 people on me and the rest on RoL. So clearly even if we got third parties they aren't anti-town and therefore I don't even care because they're helping | ||
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On March 09 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote: So chat bro. Thread isn't a good enough medium for you in this game of forum Mafia? It would be mason powers! I always wanted to have mason powers once in a game. I was one of the few guys who requested masons to be included in L and scumbag flamewheel made me something else. In arkham city we had the gayphone session and half of the people were invited, myself not included. This game we got an operator and I never got masoned with someone. But yeah this thread will have to do. It's not like someone else is reading LOL | ||
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Kita looks pretty good with those 3 lynches and how he defended me when it was about eiter lynching me or RoL You look pretty townish. I am obviously town. Well and Risk/Cwave looks incredible bad/unreadable but with wbg's flip information we have he's probably pretty confirmed himself. So yeah I'm all up for BC tomorrow. Anyways, I'm off to bed now, see you tomorrow. | ||
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Probably because I liked him having the same conclusion that VE looks bad I had but the moment DocH died RoL obviously was the target to go. | ||
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On March 13 2012 07:17 Toadesstern wrote: Also I said WBG + RoL + BC + VE are mafia something like d2 or d3. Given that VE flipped mafia I'm happy with that although I seriously thought Laya to be town for the most time :p Probably because I liked him having the same conclusion that VE looks bad I had but the moment DocH died RoL obviously was the target to go. EBWOP *flipped 3rd party. I'm allowed to edit now, right? | ||
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On March 13 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Also Toad it doesn't matter that you caught any of us when you singlehandedly were one of the worst players for town. Saying something like "I don't care that there's third party when they're helping town" is funny in retrospect, but really really dumb. As town your goal is to kill all nontown, indiscriminately. As the setup is closed you have no idea what you're up against, so you just kill whoeever fits a scum agenda. VE wasn'f playing to his town meta (look at the countercase I built on him d3; 100% of that case, I would repeat as a townie) Layabout and I tried swinging the town lynch onto VE multiple times. Ultimately I think we could have approached that differently and potentially gotten him killed for our gain if we opposed the prpl lynch, or bussed RoL. However in terms of self preservation and not knowing 100% at the time it was difficult to make that assessment. Also something that's funny is that it's really really easy to find third parties as scum. In every scum game I've played that had third party in it, I've caught onto them, with my strongest case often being on them. Ex. MLP tnkted was third party, in L Palmar was traitor, in AC Palmar/Kurumi were third party, and this game with VE. I guess I should push those reads more strongly in thread and back off the obv town mislynches :p yeah but we were at lylo. How can people even suggest talking about 3rd parties when we desperatly need to kill mafia first. That's the point. I did not care about 3rd parties as long as there were confirmed mafias around and the 3rd party thing was a guess which, if wrong, would have caused us to insta-lose the game. Even if it was right lynching the 3rd party instead of a mafia could have lost us the game at some point. | ||
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It's not helping town at all because people will end up thinking I'm retarded or mafia but it's at least helping me out figuring this out. At least that's the reason I was dead certain on WBG, RoL and BC to be mafia, actually should have realized Laya was mafia as well but I was to blinded by my meta-read on VE thinking I got mafia with those 4. Idk, it's probably really bad to do such a thing, because town has no possibility to judge if I'm mafia doing that on purpose or town doing that on purpose and therefore it's getting really hard for town to correctly judge me but it's really nice from your own reads :p And well, imo the thread was semi-dead after a bunch of days and pretty much noone was putting effort in this game so I didn't care about bullshitting at that point in time and just went with it to get at least some nice reads myself. | ||
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On March 13 2012 08:07 kitaman27 wrote: You can't lynch the sk if it gives the scum team control over the lynch. o.O what Kita said. Just imagine lynching VE instead of BC. Would have left us with Kita and Cwave alive vs BC going into night with 1 KP. That's an insta-lose. It was like that ever since the suicidebomber. There was no way to lynch the SK without outright losing the game. Lynching mafia first was the necessary move and although an SK was on the move we could not afford town to think about stuff like that at that point in time. | ||
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On March 13 2012 08:07 VisceraEyes wrote: I was putting in effort you little shit. sry you were one of the few exceptions :p | ||
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On March 13 2012 08:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: If I remember right, the town had lost the game right as soon as DrH blew up with whoever that was. At that point you were even numbered with mafia + SK and your only chance was for the SK to kill us which he wouldn't do knowing he would auto win. You kill the SK mafia wins, means you can only lynch mafia and hope the SK fucks up which didn't happen since we were RBing him. Not that anyone really knew he existed at that point, but still. Kind of. WE needed a succesful RB or protection. | ||
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On March 13 2012 08:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote: if i was good we wouldnt have had 3 mislynches in a row this game was embarrassing for me well there were a lot of people who I thought were incredible hard to convince to do the right thing although I had a town read on them. You were not one of them and I only was suspicious of you because I omgus'ed hard and should have realized it was a townie who was seriously in trouble figuring out what was going on with my bullshit while BC, Laya and mostly WBG all were like "LOL HE'S RETARDED, DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, LYNCH HIM RIGHT NAO". That was the most townie thing you could do and yet I did not realize it in time, had doubt about you because of my omgus and completly missed it while focusing on these people who basicly claimed mafia from my point of view | ||
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