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also if it isn't clear now, this is why I backed off on claiming when i realized it would be retarded to claim (when I had that spat with VE)
ofc scum caught onto it anyway and probably roleblocked me based on that. I recall kita even asking me, "where is that mindblowing claim" or whatever, and that should've been the hint.
I messed up hugely by OMGUSing VE out of pure frustration. That outted the fact that I had an important role and probably led me to being roleblocked.
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On March 03 2012 08:35 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not going to waste my time responding to a scum bugs unless a member of town specifically requests it.
you're not going to spend time responding to me because I am right and you can't argue against logic.
kk
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so here's the good news:
tomorrow, mafia dies 100%. Why?
Between myself, layabout, kitaman, and Tyrran there are confirmed two mafia. Either we kill me or kita, or you kill tyrran or layabout.
Since there are four claimers here, the chance of one of them being confirmed town/scum tomorrow is 100%.
That's the good news. The bad news is that unless we kill the roleblocker tomorrow we can't get the other scum/town confirmed the next day.
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and actually the first one was me just derping, that should've been syllo and dr. h.
kita is not confirmed.
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which is great right, cause the two confirmed people are dead!
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On March 03 2012 08:55 VisceraEyes wrote: So you're saying that the question you were answering was "who are confirmed townies" and not "who have you protected each night"? Because the question I asked was the second one.
I answered that question in the same post, you even quoted it. You asked me two things: who are the confirmed townies, and who are the protections.
If you're claiming I contradicted myself in literally the same thought train, then that's ridiculous.
And up to this point I've kept thinking kita is confirmed, because I had no reason to believe I was roleblocked. I'm still not over the fact that I so blindly considered him town when he fished for my role and I outted myself.
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On March 03 2012 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote: WBG - who have you protected each night? The fact that you claimed Weak Doctor (a role I'm assuming kills you if you protect scum?) means that you should have a laundry list of confirmed townies over the course of the game right? Why claim with no list? WTF? because it's only two people; syllo, and kita. based on the fact that kita straight up claimed my role (without the doctor part) and then proceeded to ask the thread "are there any protective roles left" means he's just fishing as scum to see if there are any blues he doesn't know about. I claimed weak doctor to him and I gave him my night actions; syllo n1, Dr. H n2 and kita n3.
it's just a typo.
why would I say kita is confirmed town in this post after just telling you he's not?
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On March 03 2012 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:I don't know, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 08:11 kitaman27 wrote:He doesn't have one lol. We already argued with each other over this in the quicktopic. He claims to have protected syllo n1, me n2 and n3 His fake claim doesn't even work out due to this quote: On February 24 2012 06:59 wherebugsgo wrote: If I die, 100% kill Dr. H.
A weak doctor breadcrumbs his checks because if he dies and flips weak doctor then town has a confirmed red, Instead he is telling us to lynch DrH if he dies. What kind of weak doctor tells town to lynch someone, knowing that he could be protecting a scum syllo and cause a mislynch. On February 28 2012 07:33 kitaman27 wrote:On February 28 2012 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote: @RoL: you're fucking lucky Toad scumslipped so hard, or I'd be pushing you like there's no tomorrow. All you do is lurk lurk lurk and then make excuses for your inactivity. That's exactly what you did when we were teammates in Couples Therapy and it's what you did (IIRC) in Purgatory as well. "gosh darnnit, I'd really love to vote for you RoL, but all these townies are just so easy to push" Remember this one? Despite my green check on toad, you STILL decided to vote toad. You claimed to me that you protected me from a hit. You confirmed in the thread that I couldn't be scum. AND YET YOU WOULD STILL RATHER VOTE TOAD OVER ROL INSISTING THAT THE CONFIRMED NONSCUM WAS LYING. Oh right, you're scum. Why am I responding to you? I already explained why I said what I said about Dr. H and it had literally nothing to do with my role and everything to do with LoTR. It's a great thing for scum to point out though, since it's probably the biggest mistake I've made all game (and I've made quite a few so far) It seems to me that you protecting DocH n2 would mean that what you said about DrH would very much have everything to do with you role and nothing to do with LotR. no, retard.
learn to read. I said that about Dr. H on NIGHT ONE, when I protected syllo.
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On March 03 2012 09:02 kitaman27 wrote: Don't bother letting him spam the thread. Bugs had me as a confirmed townie, yet still decided to vote toad even though I informed everyone that he was town. Knowing that it was 6v4 and a single misplaced town vote would end the game, he still chose to go against me, even though I was confirmed to him.
yes, because of the shit you were saying in the QT.
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On March 03 2012 09:09 Jitsu wrote: Hey Kita,
I want to finish the question I had before thst I never got around to finishing. Why did you have me so high up on your list? I could understand protecting toad, but why was I so high up.
the answer to this is that, despite the fact that you've done jack shit all game, kita knows you're town because he's scum.
good thing is we also now know you're town.
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you should be glad I'm even still here, given how fucking horrible this town is.
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nah I'm just mad that kita can display total knowledge of a scum role and then actually manage to get away withit.
gg, town loses when I get lynched. sorry for my bad play. probably should've trolled harder, that was the only time people listened to me.
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sorry; I don't mean to be negative but I'm not ragequitting.
On March 03 2012 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 09:23 wherebugsgo wrote: nah I'm just mad that kita can display total knowledge of a scum role and then actually manage to get away withit.
gg, town loses when I get lynched. sorry for my bad play. probably should've trolled harder, that was the only time people listened to me. Where have I heard this before? Hmmmmmm......OH YEAH Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 06:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: lol just turned laptop on form work. gg guys way to blow the game exactly as I predicted two days ago. Clearly that tactic didn't work with RoL. Who knows though, maybe you'll get lucky Bugs?
I'm not ragequitting, I'm just leaving for the night because there's nothing more I can do right now. I can reread all I want but I'm not the one that needs convincing.
it's nightphase and there's no point in me continuing to try to bash my head against a brick wall.
The evidence is there if you're town and you want to look at it. Kita on day 1 hinted at the existence of a poisoner; lo and behold poisoner is the first mafia role to flip.
Kita rolefishes for a protection role after basically claiming what I claimed to him in the QT, minus the doctor.
In addition, just ask yourself: why would syllo consider me town, town enough to give me a potion? why would I consider kita near-confirmed? why would I bother explaining anything of what I said?
Something to ponder: why have you not asked me why syllo would give me a potion if he knew I was weak doctor? (that's something I think a townie would want to know the answer to)
Why would I hold back on the roleclaim on d3? I was in a position where I thought you were scum on d3. I thought I had you trapped in that you were pursuing the most easily confirmable town role in the game. And then I realized scum could read everything I was writing and went "oh shit I shouldn't claim now bc I'll just be rb'ed." Ofc it didn't matter, scum knew based on what I was saying that I had some sort of role.
at any rate, I'm mostly mad at myself for basically committing XLV-level play all over again. This game has been exceedingly frustrating to deal with because the discussion has been poor and the results (up till today) have been unforgiving. syllo seemed very unmotivated to me when we were speaking and that did nothing to help because even the best townie didn't care about the outcome. This is also why I've been forgiving to players like BC and RoL, who have been completely absent. I disagree with you that BC is top-notch town, but I've agreed with everything he's said all game (what little of it, anyway.) When people are playing at this level, there's no motivation to post. The only motivation is the self-motivation to win. That's why I post. Maybe BC doesn't have that.
I care about whether we win or not, and scum are doing really well even if RoL was completely useless. We are not doing as well, and we cannot afford to lynch another townie.
However, there is an easy solution to tomorrow and if I'm right (for once) then tomorrow will be easy and there won't be anything to explain. We'll see after the nightpost, as I'm 100% sure I will live tonight.
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either layabout or Tyrran is scum, yes.
But based on the fact that I almost considered kita confirmed scum, that means yes, scum are doing well. Even if kita dies tomorrow and the scum between layabout+tyrran dies the day afterward (or the other way around, it doesn't matter), we still have another scum to kill, unless redFF was that fourth scum all along.
So yes, I'd say that scum are in a better position than town right now. Lynching kita won't be easy because no one is going to want to listen to me.
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On March 03 2012 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Where are you at on BC bugs? BC was one of four people on the Toadesstern lynch. What do you think about that dude?
I haven't found anything I have disagreed with in what BC has said. Apart from him calling kita scummy I didn't find anything strange in what he posted in his vote post on Toad, and the only reason I found that strange was because at the time I believed kita to be near 100% confirmed town.
The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post.
Yes, BC was voting Toad but so was I. Indeed Toad very well could still be scum, because there is at least one scum still alive beyond kita and the one scum between layabout/Tyrran.
At this point I find it odd that my strongest town read is you. Things change fast.
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On March 03 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote: The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post. GOD QUIT SAYING SCUMMY THINGS Saying shit like "I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game" is scummy as fuck bugs. Like, why? Why do you think it's okay to sign up for a game only to lose interest when people herp and derp around? THAT'S A FUCKING GIVEN IN THIS GAME! The community is growing, meaning we have a lot of new players who don't know what is and isn't indicative of alignment, and saying something like this only serves to breed apathy among the newer players, MAKING THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE, NOT BETTER. Apathy is NOT OKAY guys! Scum are NOT just going to tell us who they are, we have to KEEP TRYING NO MATTER HOW HOPELESS. Or give up. Does anyone just want to GIVE the game to scum? I don't. /rant Thanks for your thoughts bugs. I'm sure they'll be further illuminating come dawn.
How is that scummy? Why do you think I've trolled?
You've read Toad's posts. He has like a 70% chance of being town right now and he's said some of the weirdest things, things that just make me cringe and go wtf. You have no idea how demoralizing it is to make a case on someone and then later see something that makes them look town; it just tells you that you're pursuing someone who is legitimately playing so badly that they're helping the other team more than they're helping you.
That's what I feel every time I go back and reread prpl's, Dirkzor's, and BlazingHand's posts.
Look at Cwave/risknuke, Toad, Jitsu, layabout, Tyrran. At least two of them are town but none of them have actually played like town. Potentially 3 are town (if you or BC is scum).
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On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote: lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check.
I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped.
You're also the one who fished for "other protective roles" after I claimed weak doctor to you (and you claimed coward)
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On March 03 2012 12:20 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:13 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote: lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check. I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped. Option A: Kita saw that there were no hits on night one and figured there might be a poisoner. Option B: Kita knew his scumbuddy RoL just poisoned someone so he decided to tip off town to what they had in store. Hey bugs, remember in the quicktopic how you mentioned there was 1 kp on night one and 2 kp on night two? When I asked you what you meant, you said you didn't realize nobody died night one.
Guess what, you're the one that has knowledge of the poisoner, not me  Wait a minute, did you trick me into responding again? Sneaky
you saw there were no hits on n1 after being given a healing potion...
right, so you go and assume there's a poisoner instead of assuming...I dunno, that you took a hit?
also, wtf at the bolded?
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