People, what are you even talking about. RoL needs to die. If this guy is a townie he singlehandedly ruined the whole game. He was "afk" for 2 days just to conventiently check his pm's 2 minutes before the deadline and found out Palmar told him to vote?
This guy knew he was about to get modkilled. This guy knew the deadline. This guy knew he had to vote to not get modkilled. He did not just luckily check-in 2 minutes before the deadline as a townie unless he planned on that as a townie, which is probably playing against your win-con. We tried to kill this guy several times and everytime a convenient counterwagon got in the way. This time he dies.
Lynch for today is RoL
Lynch for tomorrow probably will be wbg We'll see what to do from there on. I'd say VE is still an excellent lynch but WBG has definitely priority (after RoL died) given how manipulative he was this game, how much HE decided who to lynch all the game because people asked "well who to lynch out of thoe 2/3 people?" and evertime WBG waltzed in the thread telling people the final target and people agreed.
On March 02 2012 05:33 wherebugsgo wrote: Scumbag Toad;
Says I was determining the lynch
Tries to determine 3 days' worth of lynches
Apologies this couldn't be made with a shiny image meme, but I'm on my phone and that would take forever.
I'm trying to get this lynch for today straight. You said multiple times you think RoL is scummy yourself and the only reason you did not vote him is because there's so many people around who are way scummier. Like RedFF, BH and prpl. What about getting over with it and FINALLY kill this guy?
The next lynch (that's you) got a "probably" in there because that's my opinion. We can argue about that stuff after RoL flipped red and maybe we got a better lynch hanging around (pun intended :p ) by then but I doubt it.
On March 02 2012 06:02 Jitsu wrote: Operation Honeypot?
The one thing about Toad's claim I don't think is legit is his miss-queue on Night 2. He said he didn't make the action in time, or something similar? Toad is a better player then that.
No I made a last minute switch to RoL instead of shooting VE and forgot that the target (RoL) had to vote for the miss-lynch as well, which he did not. Yeah not exactly my brightest moment...
On March 02 2012 06:02 Jitsu wrote: Operation Honeypot?
The one thing about Toad's claim I don't think is legit is his miss-queue on Night 2. He said he didn't make the action in time, or something similar? Toad is a better player then that.
It was from like BCAA or XLII or something...a plan to catch scums using the Unique Visitors function in QT. I don't recall if it actually worked, it just reminded me of it.
I hadn't even thought of it in those terms, Jitsu - while his reads are way off, I tend to agree that he's more careful about his action submission than to misqueue his action.
It just seems off to me and I'm not buying it. I think he's lying scum. Unfortunately, I can't tell what kind of agenda he's pushing because he's trying to get me, Bugs (suspicious) and RoL (semi-suspicious) lynched - I can totally think of worse targets, so it's not like he's trying to push bad lynches per se (aside from me that is)...just lynches I don't agree with at this moment.
That's part of the reason I can't bring myself to believe the claim - not even the fact that there has been no tangible proof of his claim - I'm more concerned about A) when/how he claimed, B) what actions he took after the claim.
how can you not agree with RoL being the lynch for today? The guy claimed mafia in the thread... WBG defendet RoL all the time lining noob-townies up for a lynch to save his buddy. He "threatened" people with stuff like "Everyone not voting BH today has to be considered Mafia" trying to make the noobs sheep him. He straight up told me to ignore you when I said I'm not sure of your alignment yet. Why hould a townie WBG do such stuff? Not to begin with the fact that he in the end decided who to go for if we had multiple viable options.
How do you think I am a lying mafia? You know god damn well I don't lie a mafia. What did I claim in my first game as mafia? Town medic who protected a mafia n1. What role did I have in that game? Mafia medic, who protected a mafia n1. I would not make up such a claim as mafia, not to begin with the fact that I never heard of that role before this game stated. As mafia I would have had the balls to straight up claim my real role making it look like I'm town aligned. So if you're telling me you think I'm a mafia vig trying to pull an Annul-move here fine with me although that's incredible bullshit, if you're telling me something else that SHOULD be considered weird.
On March 02 2012 07:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: lol excuse me ? When did I claim scum toad? Coming from someone who has had helvetica gunning for him for the last 30 hours and somehow just lucked into losing a vote you seem to have learned to nut up.
On March 02 2012 06:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I hadn't even thought of it in those terms, Jitsu - while his reads are way off, I tend to agree that he's more careful about his action submission than to misqueue his action.
wait what? You said you agree that wbg is scummy, same about RoL and you're voting me because I am (I guess?) even more scummy than those two in your opinion? So let's just assume you're not mafia for a second. In that case my list is still 2/3 right according to your reads. That's "way off" ?
On March 02 2012 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm leaning town on RoL right now, and with me being town that puts your reads at 1/3 on your most current list
Honestly, the only way I can see someone coming to the conclusion that RoL's behavior is town this game is if they are scumbuddies or if they are scum and know he is town.
thx telling him. I feared he might say I'm retarded if I was the one to say what you just said.
it's 9 people alive. It's either 5 v 4 (if redFF was a townie) or it's 6 v 3 (if redFF was a mafia). And our OP clearly states that 3rd party is possibly, so maybe we got a third party or something like that, who knows.
On March 02 2012 13:51 Jitsu wrote: I'm contemplating.
This could feasibly be the end of the game if we mislynch. Trying not to rush into a choice when i'm overtired.
we only lynched townies so far. We also tried to kill RoL three times in a row, I even shot him and it always failed because something else was more important according to wbg. How about RoL was right all along and people like wbg said stuff like "everyone not voting BH has to be considered mafia" or "just ignore VE if you're not sure of his alignment" to get people lynched HE wanted to be lynched. Like BH and prpl? I actually don't know if wbg was one of the guys pushing redFF d1 but if he was redFF was most likely a townie himself. Will check that tomorrow.
That's stuff that should make you want to lynch RoL if you think wbg is mafia.
Of course there's also enough evidence on RoL himself but people already pointed that out multiple times but again, do you really think a townie would ragequit like that and coincidentally show up 2 minutes before the deadline? Sure he did not want to be modkilled but why 2 mins before the deadline? There is simply no way he was really afk. He knew about the deadline all along, he was watching this thread and waltzed in here 2 mins before deadline. Do you really think he checked his pm's coincidentally just right in time? Let's just assume he did not. What would a townie do if he were to log in, let's say 2 hours before deadline only to see a pm from palmar telling him, that he still has to vote? A townie would get in this thread telling people he's here and at least tell peolpe that he's not going to be modkilled, resulting in people changing votes back to RoL again. He never wanted to be lynched. If he really wanted to be lynched he would have told people earlier and not just 2 mins before the deadline when it was certain a vote switch was too late.
That's just so super convenient for RoL and all this was not a coincidence. RoL knew about the deadline, he did not by coicidence check his pm's 120seconds before deadline, he did that on purpose to not get modkilled and he did that move to not get lynched in the first place. If you really think that RoL is playing protown and that timing is a coincidence I really can't help you. It's TL Mafia XLVIII all over again just that I'm sitting on the other end this time... I now truly know how Palmar felt in that game
On March 02 2012 12:14 kitaman27 wrote: Cwave, Jitsu, layabout
Do you not find RoL to be an acceptable lynch, meaning you would rather keep your vote where it is under the assumption that I'm not town, than vote with me?
Kitaman, there are some problems with this question. RoL is a very acceptable lynch and i voted for him yesterday. Him dodging the modkill/lynch thing and even using a line like "a mod pm'd me i had to vote to prevent being modkilled" means ill try and get him policylynched next time i play with him(policylynches never happen, i know).
I don't understand why you position me not voting with you at the opposite side of " assumption i'm not town". How on earth do you draw that conclusion? If i don't vote with you, i must think you are scum?
Would rather lynch Jitsu.
the problem we got is that we've got only 2 more townies than mafias (assumption of my own: no third parties + redFF was a townie). Therefore we need all the townie votes on the same target. Neither do I think Jitsu is a good lynch target nore do I think you'll have a chance getting every townie on a Jitsu lynch. People who look terrible bad right now and need to be lynched straight away: RoL WBG perhaps VE (although Kita doesn't seem to think as strong about him as I do, especially the fact that wbg was so fast on "ok let's lynch VE" looks a bit weird, making him only #3 imo) BC
you'll really have a hard time lynching someone else cwave and this is no time for experiments. We need to lynch all 4 mafias in a row as far as I see.
EBWOP: I wanted to make to different lists, but making an entire list for BC only would be a little overdoing it :p However, it's from ranked from "KILL IT WITH FIRE" (wbg) to "PROBABLY KILL IT WITH FIRE" (BC).
Keep in mind it is 6v4. A single townie not on the right target = instantlose because with 10 alive we need 6 to lynch. That mean we either get a nolynch or we get a mislynch if syllos assumption that mafia has a floridian as well from d2 is right. The second one is an instant-lose, the first one pretty much as well. This is not the time to vote someone because you think he is a little suspicious. We need to get every townie on the same guy no matter if you personally think guy-X is even more scummy. So everyone vote RoL please.
VE voted him as well, I still think VE is mafia so don't let yourself get tricked thinking "well we already have 6 guy on RoL, guess I can vote someone else in that case". I suspect VE will switch if that ensures a mafia win.
On March 02 2012 22:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I will tentatively vote toad, but I will check from work to see if you guys found a better target later. But seriously. Awkward claim that someone incriminates me. 1) Terrible logic on killing VE to confirm WBG as scum/1), 2)never actively helped a lynch and sheeped votes./2)
On March 02 2012 22:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: 3)lol wow, you all don't see this lynch happening too easy?/3) Whatever man, I have work and I will be back after the deadline, but I will log on and cast my vote before the deadline.
And do answer you, its a matter of coincidence. My law class starts at 4:55, I get in a couple minutes early boot up my laptop and skype autologs in, to which I get a message, or messages I received while not at my computer. It wasn't me conveniently checking TL PMs.
Lol, its really funny though,4) this is the exact reason I said it was beneficial to lynch me two days ago. Becuase if you let me live until mylo, you give mafia the easiest win ever./4)
1) is a straight up lie or you still haven't read a thing I posted. I said "WBG's alignment is of no matter when judging VE because WBG has a reason to add VE to his list as both being mafia and town himself. So you mixed up the names and you still haven't understood what I said. Awesome.
2) Is that a good thing or a bad thing considering we lynched townies only so far? I said BH is a coinflip and I wanted to lynch you instead, apparently noone else wanted to kill you. So according to what you said I behaved protown because I was trying to lynch you instead, which was according to you the best course of action for town, yet you make it look like it was something bad. prpl was indeed sheeping because I was trusting kitas read and AGAIN people did not want to lynch you or VE.
I take that as a compliment I guess?
3) yeah incredible easy. We tried to lynch you 3 times in a row, I shot you. I totally get your point of being the easy lynch. If you were easy to kill you'd be dead for 2 full cycles.
4) idk man. You were scared after 48hours of being away and thought it's already gg because mafia will leave you until mylo to place you on a tablet as the easy lynch? And you never thought of using those 999hours of gameplay to make up for d1 instead of sacrificing yourself so that we don't mislynch in mylo which was still cycles away the moment you made the decision to sacrifice yourself?
On March 03 2012 02:35 Toadesstern wrote: I doubt blue claims will put mafia under pressure. More like it's going to confuse people like Jitsu and Cwave
EPT
