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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 10:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: VE claimed vig earlier didn't he he did? I don't recall that but if he did that's strange again because I am not a vig, I am an avenger. Syllo was not a vig but an alchemist, who according to WBG had to power to kill people. I highly doubt we got usual vigs but that's setup speculation. | ||
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Toadesstern
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Toadesstern
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Not like mafia is going to put bullets into you unless something strange happens that makes you look incredible good anyways. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean, unless I'm mistaking the mechanics of your role, you can only shoot into votes on lynched townies from the previous cycle...so I mean you can try I guess. I'm voting for you this cycle because I think you're a liar, and if you get lynched and you're telling the truth...well, you're not shooting anyone. you think I'm the best lynch right now? Seriously? Nothing you got to say about Rol? About WBG? | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 12:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I skimmed his posts, never read/analyzed his whole filter. The argument seemed weird and like an excuse to not kill wherebugsgo but still call him scummy, which is... awkward? I didn't really do that, unless you are referring to me speculating that redff was scum which I would contend is very different. what? wbg's dies after you two. I never defended wbg and straight up said I think he's mafia multiple times. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 07:16 Toadesstern wrote: If you're suggesting we're lynching VE instead I'm all up for that as well. Either you're mafia and not stupid enough to make a 3/3 townie list or you are against my better judgement indee townie and we should trust you => we should lynch into your list. Since prpl already flipped green and I know my own alignment that leaves us with VE just to get this straight. To me this reads as: VE and RoL are both equally good lynches or at least almost equally good lynches and we need to lynch either of those two today [that was the first sentece + context of the my posts before that] Now if you're a little townie and you're concerned about a VE-lynch because you think WBG might be a townie himself, fear not, because WBG's alignment is not a problem for a VE-lynch. No matter WBG's alignment he would suggest a VE-lynch. If he's mafia to mix up his lists and as a townie to catch scum. Therefore WBG's alignment is of no matter when deciding whether or not to lynch VE. I tried to make it sound fancy this time, did it work? :3 | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 14:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: You specifically were saying that WBG's list was the way you were justifying killing VE. Since scum would not likely make an entirely town list. Now you are dismissing that, even though it was the initial premise of your first argument to kill VE. no I did not. I said that that list is no problem for us because wbg is not afraid to list mafias to mix things up and screw with peoples radars and if he's a townie that shouldn't be an issue at all. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 15:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You said it's what confirms VE you're backpedaling so much and it's not the first time either no I said it's another one of the facts that should make you feel okay to lynch him. When you guys asked why VE, I told you to read my and Laya's filter. THAT'S the reason VE is, besides RoL, the best possible lynch right now. I never said that little phrase was anything important, I just found it important to add that WBG's alignment is not a matter of wether we should lynch VE or not. The reason VE is a good lynch, and I said it exactly that way is the fact that we got about 5 pages of filter about him in layas and my filter (although 5 pages is probably an exaggeration, more like 2?) and that everything mentioned about him still holds and that I'm not going to quote everything we mentioned about him so far again because you can simply read up the things I mentioned on d1, d2 and d3 + whenever Laya did his 2 (?) cases on VE. THAT's the reason VE is a lynchoption right now and THAT's what I said when you asked me about it so please stop pretending that little phrase I added to show that it's completly independent from WBG's alignment although he added VE on one of his lists-of-death is the only thing I said about VE or the reason I want VE to hang. Seriously it's like I'm talking to a wall and people only remember what happened the last 8-or-so hours because clearly everything else seems to be forgotten. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On February 27 2012 07:09 Toadesstern wrote: RoL buddy, why you still alive? I asked RoL after that nightpost why he's still alive becaue I thought I shot, turned out I did not and I had to make a freaky explanation why I said that + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2012 07:09 Toadesstern wrote: RoL buddy, why you still alive? On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote: Toad, how could he answer your question? On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote: he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs. At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 15:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No hit on Night 1? I believe you now. no hit on n1 (that was after lynching redFF). It was a concealed flip after all and my powers only work after a townie got lynched. no hit on n2 due to my own failure (that was after lynching BH) shot RoL on n3 (that was after lynching prpl) | ||
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Toadesstern
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I am convinced VE is mafia but RoL was such a pain in the ass that I'd like him to hang first and I don't want wbg to decide yet another lynch :p | ||
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Toadesstern
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People who are happy to finally talk about something like how bad X is and therefore don't have to come up with something themselves. People who are honestly confused about what I post. People who should know better. People who just aren't honest with their reaction. Oh and it forced people to talk. I like talking! Oh and it gives a lot of reactions :p Oh and I also like do exaggerate pretty often. That's my one big issue that gets in the way but luckily gives information as well although it makes me look pretty bad even if I am town and don't mean to do that. So no I VE, I really use terms like "confirmed" or "the guy basicly claimed mafia in the thread" quite often imo. | ||
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what? DocH is like my #4 read but not more  Why not hit other people that desperatly want to die, you know, like RoL ? Or are you faking something? | ||
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Toadesstern
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Scumreads are more interesting than townreads and I don't want mafia to shoot us the people we think are most likely town. | ||
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Toadesstern
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my mafia powerrank would be something like #1 RoL #2 VE #3 WBG #4 DocH / BC #5 BC / DocH which looks a lot like your reads except that I got VE in there. Why do you think layabout is mafia? | ||
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On March 01 2012 18:38 Tyrran wrote: RoL case is a bit special. The fact that he insist on town lynching him proves that he is not town. So either he is mafia, with a special ability that trigger as he dies, or he is a village idiot, winning when lynched. Lastly, he could also be a traitor, making us waste a lynch on him as mafia goes unscatted. + Show Spoiler + DocH : You havent shared the results of your investigation yet? Why ? My stand on WBG : Rereading the game, he has been on the wrong lynches all game long. He pushed for : RedFF ( hidden), BH ( Blue), prplhz (green). This and he admitted that he knew that Syllo was blue the nigth he shot him. He also soft-protected RoL from dying day 3. (" Dont lynch RoL, he is going to be modkilled") The fact that he willingly said he knew Syllo was blue made me think he was town. I mean, mafia WBG could just have hidden that. wouldnt that have been strictly better from mafia point of vue ? So for now i'm still unsure. I will reread VE's filter today too. A VI would have died to my shot because neither mafia nore town would have protected that. Same with a Traitor. "The fact that he insist on town lynching him proves that he is not town" is wifom and if we start making that kidn of thing a viable defense everyone who's about to get lynched will simply say "hey sorry, I sucked, just lynch me. That's best for town". How are you supposed to tell the difference between people who say that because they really think so and people who say that because they don't want to be lynched? Right you check their filter. RoL however has no filter. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 01 2012 18:49 Tyrran wrote: I'm not defending him. He is not town. That's not possible. OOOH my bad I misread and thought you said he can't be mafia because of that, because in one of my recent games something like that happened and people said stuff like that. Along the lines "mafia would not want to be lynched". So yeah let's kill RoL | ||
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