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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:23 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 Are you saying that it's optimal town play to autonay any team that you are not on yourself? Yep, unless its close to the deadline, like mentioned before. Obviously, I can't prove to anyone my alignment until I'm included, but I know my own alignment and it would be silly not to push an advantage if it were obtainable.
OK OK but i want you to imagine a situation where EVERY town player does what you say. Then everyone butts heads forever. It makes sense to try to compromise and get reads early rather than waiting for the deadline...
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On February 22 2012 06:23 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 Are you saying that it's optimal town play to autonay any team that you are not on yourself? Yep, unless its close to the deadline, like mentioned before. Obviously, I can't prove to anyone my alignment until I'm included, but I know my own alignment and it would be silly not to push an advantage if it were obtainable.
I'm going to nayvote any team including you if you keep posting crap like this.
It's not optimal because everyone votes for themselves. 3 people are on the team, 6 are not on the team. Nothing will get done.
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:23 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote:On February 22 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 Are you saying that it's optimal town play to autonay any team that you are not on yourself?
@Palmar What should we do with Dirkzor and Navilus if this team fails? Apparently Palmar's plan is to send a D2 team if Dirk Navi +2, excluding himself if his team fails. I'm SURE this must be a misunderstanding, but I've asked him numerous times and he keeps on claiming that this is what we should do D2, which makes no sense. That question was clearly not addressed to you. Why are you answering a question for Palmar?
Fair enough. I shouldn't put words in his mouth. I'll wait for him to come and start hussling, then shoot him down.
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I haven't voted yet and I won't. I want to see Navillus reaction to all this. I'll go to bed soon and vote before (team)deadline tomorrow.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:23 kitaman27 wrote:On February 22 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 Are you saying that it's optimal town play to autonay any team that you are not on yourself? Yep, unless its close to the deadline, like mentioned before. Obviously, I can't prove to anyone my alignment until I'm included, but I know my own alignment and it would be silly not to push an advantage if it were obtainable. I'm going to nayvote any team including you if you keep posting crap like this. It's not optimal because everyone votes for themselves. 3 people are on the team, 6 are not on the team. Nothing will get done.
funny how everyone keeps shooting me down for pushing my own perspective. Of course I understand that no progress will be made if everyone nays teams without themselves. I'm simply pushing the one fact in the game that I know will improve our chances for success. With nine selection phases, there is more than enough time for a couple rounds of stalemate. I've already given my list of town and scum reads so its not like I'm not contributing elsewise.
Palmar's "I'll nay any time that isn't this" is exactly the same as my argument except he happened to select before me this round.
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Palmar is just actually saying something about other people too. You're just saying "I'm town MEH". Palmar is saying "These three people are town, I'm among these three people". One thing is a lot more useful to town than the other, which is more obstructive. Blazinghand is hyperviolently (maybe not for his standards but I don't really know much about him other than he CAN be relatively civilized when he tries his best) opposing this team and you are policy-naying it. I don't think any of you are looking very good.
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On February 22 2012 06:31 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 22 2012 06:23 kitaman27 wrote:On February 22 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote:
@kitaman27 Are you saying that it's optimal town play to autonay any team that you are not on yourself? Yep, unless its close to the deadline, like mentioned before. Obviously, I can't prove to anyone my alignment until I'm included, but I know my own alignment and it would be silly not to push an advantage if it were obtainable. I'm going to nayvote any team including you if you keep posting crap like this. It's not optimal because everyone votes for themselves. 3 people are on the team, 6 are not on the team. Nothing will get done. funny how everyone keeps shooting me down for pushing my own perspective. Of course I understand that no progress will be made if everyone nays teams without themselves. I'm simply pushing the one fact in the game that I know will improve our chances for success. With nine selection phases, there is more than enough time for a couple rounds of stalemate. I've already given my list of town and scum reads so its not like I'm not contributing elsewise. Palmar's "I'll nay any time that isn't this" is exactly the same as my argument except he happened to select before me this round.
Palmar is at least trying to justify why he's picking Navillus.
Your "one fact" is unprovable at this stage in the game, the fact that you are town.
And there will be more than nine if everyone stalemates like you're trying to.
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EBWOP: Fuck it happened again.
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Wondering if I am doing something wrong since [UoN]Sentinel keeps echoing my posts ...
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Maybe I'm missing it Kitaman, but I don't see a "list of your town and scum reads". I see you "jokingly" calling everyone you said was "buddying" early on "so town"...unless that's really your town list, I'm not seeing anything like that in your filter.
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On February 22 2012 06:39 prplhz wrote:Wondering if I am doing something wrong since [UoN]Sentinel keeps echoing my posts ...
This time I was arguing before your post as well, I'm not doing lightning paraphrase or anything like that if that's what you're thinking 
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:34 prplhz wrote:
Palmar is just actually saying something about other people too. You're just saying "I'm town MEH". Palmar is saying "These three people are town, I'm among these three people". One thing is a lot more useful to town than the other, which is more obstructive. Blazinghand is hyperviolently (maybe not for his standards but I don't really know much about him other than he CAN be relatively civilized when he tries his best) opposing this team and you are policy-naying it. I don't think any of you are looking very good.
hmm? That's simply not true. I've named the players that I think would be good choices to go along with me. I've also named who I wouldn't want to see. It's just that Palmar has had a chance to submit his team. I think some combination me, VE, blazing and dirk would be ideal for their vocalize opinion of others and their willingness not to play a careful game or get themselves in trouble.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I'm missing it Kitaman, but I don't see a "list of your town and scum reads". I see you "jokingly" calling everyone you said was "buddying" early on "so town"...unless that's really your town list, I'm not seeing anything like that in your filter.
Are you sure you looked?
On February 21 2012 06:35 kitaman27 wrote:If I would be selecting a team right now, I'd probably go with the most vocal players. The ones that are willing to call others out. Likely some combination of myself, blazing, dirk, VE. I'd be opposed to a team with sentinel (because of this post) and probably nav (too little info to go on) Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Aggressive tone means we're sure of ourselves instead of just going along with someone else.
Also, I have an argument and I'm making it clear now. This post doesn't sound natural to me. It's as if he is trying to prove to us how can be aggressive by "having an argument and making it clear". He hasn't been even been aggressive towards any players, offering only wishy-washy statements on chaos and blazing. If I had to pick out one player as scum so far, it would be him.
On February 21 2012 23:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Palmar, I dislike how many times you are calling yourself confirmed town. What does your alignment in past games have anything to do with your current alignment?
I mentioned that I would nay a team with Nav, but I actually think I might change my mind. I don't see a reason why a scum player would dodge a team selection, rather than just nominate himself and two others. I like that dirk is aggressive and vocal, but I'll wait to see what his reasoning is to want to deny my spot. I know I'm town, so the best way I can ensure we pass the first mission is if I'm part of the team. I'll probably be voting nay unless something changes my mind in the next 12 hours.
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Yeah, I was looking for a list. Thx mang.
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
So I guess we're just not going for an optimal team D1 huh
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On February 22 2012 07:47 Blazinghand wrote:
So I guess we're just not going for an optimal team D1 huh
Your optimal team is BH, Sentinal, VE, is this correct Blaze?
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##Vote Team Palmar: Nay
Let's see what Sentinal's got.
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
That is correct. Not that it means anything when I say this, since I'm not currently suggesting a team. Given the opportunity, I would suggest that team however. I would also yay vote that team if suggested.
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On February 22 2012 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:
That is correct. Not that it means anything when I say this, since I'm not currently suggesting a team. Given the opportunity, I would suggest that team however. I would also yay vote that team if suggested.
I'm up next, and as I said before this is the team I'll suggest. If Palmar's team gets passed I'll reread the thread and pick a fourth member.
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You only need 3 for N1 Sentinel. Passing Palmar doesn't pass up the night's mission.
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