So, this game is weird. It's nice playing with new people because they actually bother to post in the thread and establish their innocence.

Paperscraps is in my eyes basically confirmed town.
Probulous is playing the most pro-town game of anyone here.
froggynoddy is almost definitely town given his play in both thread and IRC on day one.
bluelightz responded completely incorrectly to my pressure in the thread, but he seems to have done it in a very towny way.
rgTS is a troll, but meh, he's probably town
grackaroni is very towny based on his reactions to my pressure on day one.
prplhz seems to be putting the effort into this game now that I'd expect him to. I'm least certain on him on this list.

So, what is left is to find the scum in the following.

phagga, sentinel, nisani, ghost, lanaia, mderg

And I mean... we have probably at least 4-6 scum left, so fuck it. Just lynch into this list. If we have vigis, might as well shoot into it too, because why not. Chances of hitting scum are ridiculously high.

gg no re

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 18 2012 10:36 GMT

#522

The fact nisani disagrees with my reads makes him a) wrong, b) scum

##Vote nisani201

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 18 2012 12:06 GMT

#525

@prplhz: We lynch nisani201.

@mderg: There's nothing wrong with the attitude. I am confident enough in my reads to actually think they're correct. With so many scum in the game, it's really a luxury how many people have made their alignment quite clear in my opinion. For some reason though, nisani is straight up calling a ton of my town reads wrong, and there seems to be no apparent reason for it except to sow distrust.

Unless of course, you're just scum looking for an excuse for trying to get me killed, by all means vote for me then.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 18 2012 14:59 GMT

#538

phagga will counter last-minute-switches.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 18 2012 15:04 GMT

#540

not really no.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 18 2012 16:48 GMT

#547

On February 19 2012 01:14 ghost_403 wrote:
Damn. And I was so sure prplhz was scum. Palmar, i want to talk to you when I get back.

Posted from my droid.

I don't talk to scum

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 19 2012 19:47 GMT

#565

No matter if people sheep me or not, that may not make them scum. I have no reason to believe Grackaroni is scum still.

ghost's position and interest in the game seems to have changed quite a bit since last night, but it seems to have done it in a towny way.

rgTS seems perfectly happy with just floating along without really doing anything after people got an initial town read on him. In addition I see him very rarely in IRC or just caring about the game at all.

I'm considering putting my vote on him, but I need to catch up on whatever happened since the lynch before I make my decision.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 07:58 GMT

#573

yo, I'll read the thread and post my thoughts in the next few hours, sorry for the lateness.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 09:24 GMT

#576

We should lynch rgTS or lanaia today. mderg I'm not sure on, bluelightz and paper are town, we will know a lot more about ghost in the morning, and I still think Grackaroni is town.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 09:27 GMT

#577

On February 20 2012 16:38 rgTheSchworz wrote:
@Town I have been useless.Full stop.
That doesnt mean I cant do something productive with my vote.
Such as ##vote: Bluelightz.
First, cut out the townie lists, I dont wanna know who you town based on ,,He´s acting townie´´ and meta.
I remember someone told you to do that.

Show nested quote +

This ticks me off. Big time.
One, you are useless. You have basically quoted ghost s entire filter, then wrote what?
3 lines telling how half the posts are useless.
Then shifting to Prplhz.Now, Prplhz was town because he was acting too scummy to be scum. I´m sure that I did mention it somewhere on IRC.You tried to revive suspicions on prplhz, and he CLEARLY didnt want to touch the matter again because:
1.It would be unproductive.
2.What could you deduce out of that list?I seriously think nothing. Scum would be inclined to PM newbies, but town also because they are more likely to slip.

My point is: Your posts have no goal behind them, you sheep and vote because a person has been useless, not scum.IMO, in this game there hasnt been anyone who lurks in plain sight except maybe you and Kenpachi.

So, moot point.

I wont be here at deadlin so my vote stays.
I

This is completely invalid. Sure it makes Bluelightz an... eccentric player, he doesn't play optimally, but it's very unlikely it makes him scum. I think you're looking for an easy lynch.

I think however that since I said I leaned town on you, you've basically considered yourself getting a free pass through the game. I think we need to lynch you.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 14:23 GMT

#593

just vote me ghost_403, we're double lynching mderg and rgTS

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 14:24 GMT

#594

I'll just post this here:

<froggynoddy> mderg seems to be big sheep
<froggynoddy> particularly as he seemed to be attacking Palmar earlier, now he seems to be sheeping him
<Bluelightz> Lol most of the sheep just vote like this, "I am voting rgTh [insert small explanation]"
<Palmar> yes
<Palmar> like
<Palmar> can we just
<Palmar> triple lynch
<Palmar> lol
<Palmar> fuck it
<Bluelightz> lol
<Bluelightz> lmao!
<Palmar> really sucks we seem to have no vigilantes
<froggynoddy> that does seem odd
<Bluelightz> Theres always traits though
<froggynoddy> is that normal in mafia?
<Bluelightz> Yes
<Bluelightz> But there should be many DTs etc o_o
<Palmar> yeah
<Palmar> prplhz was a dt
<Palmar> no useful info though
<Palmar> it seems
<Bluelightz>

<Bluelightz> no crumbs?
<Palmar> well
<Palmar> he backed off ghost
<Palmar> but that was within a day
<Bluelightz> True
<Palmar> he thought I was scum and backed off me
<Palmar> but meh
<Bluelightz> meh
<phagga> prplhz was a spy, not a dt
<phagga> not exactly the same
<phagga> from the original post:
<phagga> If a player has the Spy trait, he will have the ability to spy on another player, revealing clues to the role and/or traits of that player, but never the role or trait itself. Some clues may be useless, others not.
<Palmar> should we try and double lynch
<Palmar> not like I want to keep mderg around
<Palmar> I never read the OPs phagga
<phagga> that's why i posted the description here, Palmar
<Palmar> haha
<Palmar> ty
<phagga> I remember you sayning that somewhere in the thread
<Palmar> that's why I prefer pm games
<Palmar> what's the current vote-count?
<Palmar> can we like?
<Palmar> lynch them both?
<phagga> mderg 2, rg 6
<Palmar> so if bluelightz
<phagga> bluelights 1 and ghost has not voted, makes 10
<froggynoddy> I'm fine with swapping on mderg
<Palmar> ok
<Palmar> me and froggy do it
<Bluelightz> wait
<Bluelightz> ...
<Bluelightz> what
<Bluelightz> ?
<Palmar> double lynch
<Palmar> do you not like us killing mderg?
<froggynoddy> actyaully
<Bluelightz> Nah just confused
<Bluelightz> :3
<froggynoddy> am a bit concerned myself
<Bluelightz> hmm?
<Palmar> I don't know, I have no reason to believe mderg flips town
<Bluelightz> believe wat?
<froggynoddy> Palmar can you explain again the justifications of double lynch
<Bluelightz> But if ghost comes in the double lycnh is ruined
<Bluelightz> =_+
<Palmar> it's more KP in the hands of town froggynoddy
<froggynoddy> but we've been pretty shit on the double lynching so far
<Palmar> yes
<Palmar> but that doesnt' meant you should stop playing optimally
<froggynoddy> I think double lynching on decent amount of evidence is good
<Palmar> and well.. we've lynched useless terribads so far
<Palmar> nisani and sinani and such
<Bluelightz> rue dat
<Bluelightz> True*
<froggynoddy> i dont think (in my admittedly inexperienced opinion) that lynching for the sake of lynching is good
<Palmar> mafia scum kp has less chance of hitting scum, than town lynches
<froggynoddy> true
<Palmar> it is good, unless you expect to generate more information from the time we buy by giving scum more KP
<Palmar> like the information better become available
<Palmar> and judging by thread activity and such
<Palmar> I don't see a reason to expect we will gain much additional information by stalling
<Palmar> I think we already have most of what we need to finish the game
<froggynoddy> ...
<froggynoddy> I don't know man
<Palmar> I mean, I can understand if we have like 3 dts alive
<Palmar> I just doubt that
<Palmar> I made a huge argument about this in some game
<Palmar> or well that was about vigilantes hitting every night if they could
<Palmar> but same deal
<Palmar> statistically, you want as many kills in the game to be controlled by town as possible
<Palmar> the only exception, is if you think you can stall the game, in order to gain information to increase your accuracy
<Palmar> At present, I have no faith that we will be generating much more information this game
<Palmar> like, thread has been pretty stagnant for a while
<phagga> Palmar, are you aware of the apprentice role?
<Palmar> what's that?
<phagga> the apprentice does not know he is it, but when he gets checked, and the checker dies later on, he takes on his role
<froggynoddy> ok, Palmar. It makes sense, mderg isnot adding anything to the game. I'll go with double lynch
<phagga> so, if probulous checked the apprentice, red team has a new godfather
<Palmar> oh right
<Palmar> wait what?
<Palmar> how does that eve work
<phagga> but I don't know if that got implemented
<Palmar> how is that balanced

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 14:25 GMT

#595

we now have 4 votes on rgTS and mderg each.

ghost just vote someone else.

Anyone who last minute switches will be policy lynched tomorrow.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 15:24 GMT

#602

I'm so bad this game wtf

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 20 2012 15:26 GMT

#604

Should have triple lynched lanaia.

paperscraps
bluelightz
palmar
ghost_403
froggynoddy
phagga

These people remain. It's very likely the red team is dead, so the black team remains.

I think it's pretty clear the scum are ghost and phagga.