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On February 11 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: 1. Everyone stays on Sheth 2. Lynch Radfield tomorrow if Sheth flips town and not a miller(insane inmate) 3. ??? 4. Profit.
We're already on the winning path guys, no need to deviate. Don't fix what's not broken.
fixed
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On February 11 2012 04:01 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 03:55 layabout wrote:On February 11 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: 1. Everyone stays on Sheth 2. Lynch Radfield tomorrow if Sheth flips town and not a miller(insane inmate) 3. ??? 4. Profit.
We're already on the winning path guys, no need to deviate. Don't fix what's not broken.
fixed duh. well seeing as Palmar was trying to get us to lynch chaoser based on that difference i think it was necessary to add it
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On February 11 2012 04:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 03:55 layabout wrote:On February 11 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: 1. Everyone stays on Sheth 2. Lynch Radfield tomorrow if Sheth flips town and not a miller(insane inmate) 3. ??? 4. Profit.
We're already on the winning path guys, no need to deviate. Don't fix what's not broken.
fixed That's actually what I meant. Thx.
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Why would a townie ever need to speculate about who is town aligned and blue? Only mafia/3rd party need to find town blues. Town need to find scum.
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Tonight the vigi's have a chance to clean up the thread, let us hope. You have so many good targets.
Sladadr's reaction to discovering the existence of the phonebooth "if that's real then i want out of the game" and subsequent comments that indicated he hadn't really read the OP made him look so green i would assume the mafia shot him because he was clearly town. Additionally most of the active players are making the atmosphere worse and the lurkers aren't threatening mafia so a player that is obviously town would have been a good shot over nearly anybody else.
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On February 11 2012 20:19 Palmar wrote: no, penguin claimed the hit on slardar.
Which means we have a bad penguin, because of what layabout said above. I hope you are lying again
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On February 11 2012 20:29 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:23 Palmar wrote:On February 11 2012 20:07 Forumite wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 11 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote: I got hit last night. Look, are you trying to troll us all this game? If you re not dead tonight I suppose you re somewhere on my lynch list. I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night. If you were hit last night, why are you not dead? Because as long as clayface lives he takes all hits for the joker. this sentence is not really smart Maybe you quoted the wrong post? Because i saw this: + Show Spoiler + I will write something about Kitaman and post it later i when i have the time to do so.
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Imagine a world in which TL operated under a strict Lynch all liars policy!
I sincerely hope that none of the following make it through the night regardless of their alignment: Palmar rgtheschworz Toadessterm Kurumi
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On February 12 2012 05:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 05:20 layabout wrote: Imagine a world in which TL operated under a strict Lynch all liars policy!
I sincerely hope that none of the following make it through the night regardless of their alignment: Palmar rgtheschworz Toadessterm Kurumi
I never thought I'd put someone else than aprudds on my insta vigilante list. Can you please explain your play in this entire game. I see no pro-town motives in any of your posts. yet you have about 10% of all posts since this 31 player game started.
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On February 12 2012 05:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 05:30 layabout wrote:On February 12 2012 05:23 Kurumi wrote:On February 12 2012 05:20 layabout wrote: Imagine a world in which TL operated under a strict Lynch all liars policy!
I sincerely hope that none of the following make it through the night regardless of their alignment: Palmar rgtheschworz Toadessterm Kurumi
I never thought I'd put someone else than aprudds on my insta vigilante list. Can you please explain your play in this entire game. I see no pro-town motives in any of your posts. yet you have about 10% of all posts since this 31 player game started. There aren't any. He started by lying and now he and Palmar are confusing everyone and called Toades lying scum when I know that he isn't. I don't think the two of them can make enough noise for people to get how much they've lied though. (Kurumi) Also if you filter him you notice that he is quick to invent reasons and poorly justify his reads on day1 but that since then he has spent roughly 100 posts just making unsupported accusations. If he does have proper reads he hasn't made much of an effort to make them known or to convince other people that he is correct.
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Kitaman27:
On February 07 2012 02:39 kitaman27 wrote:Funny how you step in to shoot down the setup discussion, yet don't bring up a topic yourself. I've got a bad scum habit of criticizing bad town discussion without contributing myself Kitaman has persistently called upon players to provide alternate discussion topics and not to criticise bad town discussion. He has provided very little in the way of scumhunting, and very little in the way of alternate and productive discusion topics.
so he begins the game with something strange + Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 01:31 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Scum would love it if we outed the Joker. That means batman would be blue shooting instead of scum shooting night one. Toad said it best. Batman should be shooting scum suspects to find Hugo. It is much more likely the scum team to take care of the joker with a night hit than it is for Hugo to die from a vig hit. In addition, if Batman is cornered into a lynch and is forced to claim his hits, the town is much more likely to spare him if he has a scum shot on his resume, than if he has a list of blues that he has hit. Just look at LoTR mafia with how willing the town was to work with chaoser after he shot radfield. Catwoman should also consider shooting into scum early to ensure she will survive late game.
The only setup speculation worth talking about seems to be the choices certain blue players have. Assuming they are standard roles, I'd prioritize dt over vig obviously. I'd probably select medic over vig as well, but with two scum players holding a kp, vig could be more valuable to normal. ##Vote Visceraeyes On February 07 2012 02:39 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Happy Birthday Toad! In regards to my previous post, I just realized scum have a medic, so I would definitely prioritize a medic over vig for anyone who has a choice. On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote: Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?
+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out. He is allowed to claim his hits. Funny how you step in to shoot down the setup discussion, yet don't bring up a topic yourself. I've got a bad scum habit of criticizing bad town discussion without contributing myself Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon? I didn't like this post, but mostly I'm looking for reactions. Yours is quite disappointing. Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman. Cute. I'm suddenly your lead scum suspect because I voted for you?BM you weren't serious about the mass claim were you? I hope you're not trying to play the same character as L. Palmar, you're sounding a lot like L as well. I don't think that turned out very well. Waiting for Radfield's wall of text. and yet.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352&user=46535he never voted for Vicera.
On February 08 2012 02:43 kitaman27 wrote: ico's theme so far has been to promote a good thread environment. The only problem is that he is shooting down posts by others, but not making an attempt to improve the thread himself. He suggest that the discussion about random voting is derailing the thread, yet doesn't propose anything else to discuss. He makes an extremely safe comment about how the joker shouldn't claim, but has yet to make a legitimate contribution.
ico has shown no signs of scumhunting thus far. He has suggested a policy lynch on kenpachi and called Adam a threat to town for his random vote. However, in both situations he is not going after players he necessarily finds scummy, he is attacking players that are making "stupid" town plays. Stupid town play should be discussed post-game. The only people we should be lynching are those who are most likely mafia.
##Vote ico
Tobberoth has also flew under the radar. I'm not sure I've seen a single player mention him yet. His contributions have been safe and non-aggressive. He plays the noob card and spends most of his time discussing the setup. He jumps on the suspicion cast on kenpachi and VE, but doesn't add anything to the argument himself. How many of the points in bold are really scummy? -Promotes good thread environment (holy crap do we need players that do this) -Points out that thread is being derailed (it was) -Shoots down posts of others (so what?) -Comments about how the Joker shouldn't claim (could be argued either way but a day1 claim is pretty bad) -Displays no signs of scumhunting halfway through day1 (so he is like nearly everyone else in the game) -Thinks policy lynching Kenpachi day1 is a good idea (it is) -Calls random votes a threat to town (they are) -Attacks Stupid town plays (stupid town plays hurt town)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=104687 ico had only made 5 posts by this point. But they did show pro-town motives. This case against ico was very weak.
What is suprising is that Kitaman27 sticks with this lynch over any others.
On February 08 2012 10:33 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not sure I like a CC lynch. It is pretty rare for a scum to post a plan guiding town's direction and generating discussion on day one. His thoughts about RG/Hugo don't really make much sense, but are they scummy? I haven't had a chance to read Sheth though, but I'll post again in a bit. If I don't like him, I'll try to suggest an alternate candidate (likely ico or kurumi). Maybe i have had unusual luck but LSB the scum posted his plans day1 in hammer mini mafia and Layabout the demonic concealer posted a plan on day1 to generate discussion in Purgatory mafia. (the last 2 games i played)
So to me the logic of "scum don't often post plans day1 to generate discussion so i don't like lynching CC" seems off.
He distances himself from a CC lynch for fairly weak reasons (perhaps because he know that CC is not mafia.) He promises content later and he commits to not voting for sheth even though he says he hasn't looked at sheth (perhaps because he knows sheth is mafia.)
He commits to an alternate candidate like ico or Kurumi. Now here is a case which uses Kurumi's day1 play: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850¤tpage=103#2051 in this post i go over Kitaman27's case on ico from halway through day1. Whilst a direct comparisson is unfair, a quick comparisson shows how Kurumi's day1 play was far more incriminating than ico's. There were also two votes on Kurumi (layabout and Bill Murray)
If Kitaman really wanted to push an alternate candidate to sheth/CC he would have had a much greater chance of being successful by pushing Kurumi. By putting his vote on ico he accepts the lynch of CC even though he does not support it.
and yet..
On February 08 2012 12:08 kitaman27 wrote: I'm still not a huge fan of either of the major lynches. I'll switch to ico for now. My case was posted earlier in the thread. Sixty minutes is a lot of time and the votes counts are relatively low so we aren't stuck with the current two candidates if we agree there is someone better out there.
chaoser/bugs/radfield trio gives me the creeps, but that's for another time. he acts like he thinks a switch could happen
...then spends his time putting pressure on Kurumi who he does not vote for.
On February 08 2012 12:10 kitaman27 wrote: kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important. he thinks Kurumi has made a BS claim to dodge lynch. (he was)
On February 08 2012 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 12:14 Kurumi wrote:On February 08 2012 12:10 kitaman27 wrote: kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important. I am not trying to dodge the lynch, I don't give a fuck. Lynch me, fine. I understand why You're thinking that's a good decision. No need for claiming anything. Let's say, stars aligned perfectly with something. Somehow I am on a vig spree lately. You agree that it would be a pro-town move to name claim though correct? You already claimed vig so there is no harm. That way we can stop talking about you and whether or not your claim is real. Thanks. He puts "pressure" on Kurumi to make him claim in full. (so he is either; scum bluefishing scum faking pressure on a teamate that he does not intend to lynch or a townie that wants to lynch a player, thinks that that player is fake claiming and wants them to claim in full)
On February 08 2012 12:33 kitaman27 wrote:I'm worried that you won't get a chance to use your guns if you refuse to name claim If you don't have a name to claim and were trying to draw a hit, just let us know before things spiral out of control. Your cases aren't all that bad as long as you aren't all over the place with them. I didn't read the first arkham game. Was that the game with the name vig or was it a different one? He backs of Kurumi even though Kurumi has not done anything to defeat the "I think this is BS to help you dodge the lynch" argument.
He also ran out of time and was unable to lead a switch to ico. But he doesn't seem disappointed that he failed to push his scumread and that a townie was lynched instead.
CC then flips town.
On February 09 2012 01:51 kitaman27 wrote:Discussing the claim from Toad or complaining about how bad it may or may not be is pretty pointless. He already claimed and he felt it was advantageous to do so. I don't really have any reason to doubt it at the moment. Is this really the topic people feel is most relevant to us catching scum? + Show Spoiler +Something I find interesting is the people who started to speculate that Cheese would flip third party, rather than scum. The mafia know that cheese couldn't have flipped scum, so Batman or Catwomen is the only roles they could speculate him being honestly. I know in past games, I've accidentally called players serial killers because I knew they couldn't be scum. There were so many people on day one that were quiet or irrelevant that they don't have the luxury of staying quiet during the night. With 4-5 blue claims already and a number of vets to shoot through, I'm less worried about night discussion influencing scum hits. chaoser, when I mentioned that I thought it was unlikely that cheese would suggest a plan while as scum, you immediately tried to shoot it down with a counter-example. I dislike how you were quick to dismiss the point by providing a rare exception with LSB. Your general attitude this game seems different. bugs, it's interesting you would decide to pick the 1/31 chance that I would be gf. Worried that any dt checks will come clean? If your name starts with a T, you need to post more. I'm having real trouble differentiating you guys. evantrees has been even more quiet than usual. slardar, opz, jay, ico, qualis, and katina leave much to be desired. People may be giving kurumi a hard time, but at least he is posting. I'll take that any day over an inactive. spoiled the middle for irrelevance. He starts out by criticising bad town discussion. (cough cough)
He then defends Kurumi on the basis that his is posting. Shame that Kurumi has posted spam and made the thread worse and that while the lurkers may be hurting town most of them have all provided more useful and better reasoned content than Kurumi.
he proceeds to post a bunch of one liners and then conclude that Palamar is NOT TOWN.
day2 start There is a big kerfuffle that i will not inflict upon myself by re-reading for context. But kitaman27 votes for Dr.H
On February 09 2012 22:28 kitaman27 wrote: well this is silly
##Vote DoctorHelvetica
On February 09 2012 23:19 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 23:11 Radfield wrote:Nope Just don't shoot your good buddy kita. I'm not the droid you are looking for. On February 09 2012 23:11 Radfield wrote: How bout you explain to me why after reading the Schworz/Toad/DocH situation you came out with the conclusion of lynching DocH. Because I'm generally more willing to believe the dt claim over the guy arguing himself out of a red check who claims to have taken a hit. schworz has a few things to explain, but its early in the day . Likely will switch to Sheth depending on how things turn out.
He later votes for sheth.
On February 10 2012 01:42 kitaman27 wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Liquid`Sheth He doesn't really explain why he no longer supports a Dr.H lynch. He doesn't attempt to justify his sheeping of sheth (but then again that goes for most people).
He adds some one liners to all of the role talk drivel.
On February 10 2012 08:59 kitaman27 wrote: lol it would be hilariously depressing if the scum team decided to dt check sheth and it came back miller XD He doesn't seem particularly concerned about the talk that was going on about Sheth being town. So he should either get concerned and explain his stance or shut-down the discussion and suggest something better. But he doesn't.
On February 11 2012 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote: Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town. CW is my humble opinion. I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town. So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.
You sure do like to talk about catwomen don't you :/ Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 04:48 rgTheSchworz wrote: So, the check should be real. However, you can just ignore it, Rad s check hasn t been scoffed at as was mine.
You've dodged the question 3-4 times now. DrH said that all dt's return role not alignment to dt checks. You gave us a alignment, but not a role. Could you please respond? You're not being very transparent right now. BM, for someone who mentioned how he couldn't wait to roll town, you sure haven't done much scumhunting. You also mentioned that you rarely read the thread as scum. It takes more than a name claim to prove you are town. @Palmar. I like a chaoser lynch too. He appeared to have something invested in the CC day one lynch, although we will have to probably wait to see if Sheth's flip makes that relevant. Kurumi, day one you claimed vigilante, but the number of possible roles you could be is running pretty thin. I think we need to revisit your name claim in the near future.Did I miss anyone who claimed a hit? Jackal - Mafia kp DrH- ?? Radfield- ?? schworz- ?? kenpachi - Harley Quinn Slardar - Penguin This is his most recent post. It was many hours before the sheth lynch. What concerned me most was that Palmar had just posted a pretty shallow case about Chaoser, based upon the misinterpretation that chaoser was trying to create a link between sheth flippping miller and lynching Palmar or Radfield. Since sheth flipped scum this case carries no weight. (because a scum chaoser would gain nothing by creating a link based upon an event that he would know to be impossible) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850¤tpage=92#1834
I then asked Kitaman27 why he was eager to support a chaoser lynch (when we really needed sheth to flip) and whether he supported Palmars case. Since Kitaman27 has declared Palmar to be "not town" Kitaman27 has no reason to sheep or support Palmar, especially if Palmar is not making a strong argument and is proposing something anti-town. But he hasn't posted and i tire of waiting.
To me it felt that Kitaman27 was trying to support a chaoser lynch but was weary of doing so (directly defending sheth would have been risky), and that he was doing it on the back of a weak case put forward by a player he didn't trust.
Then in a rather non-commital fashion he says that we should "re-visit" Kurumi's claim. Not "Kurumi i still think you were lying because you are scum and you were dodging the lynch." Instead it's more of an "excuse but you may have been dishonest, that is all" Turn's out Kurumi lied, but you would know that wouldn't you kita?
Where is the Kitaman27 that thinks carefully and makes good reads? Where is the Kitaman27 that cares about town and acts in towns intersts? Why is Kitaman27 sitting on his ass and laughing at the thread we have vomited all over?
He isn't here. This Kitaman27 is scum
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Whilst Tyrran has spoken some sense, nearly all of his (few) posts are about neutral topics.
It would be a shame to kill town that can speak sense.
But he has made next to no effort to contribute, and he has sat back and watched the chaos as he has not been under pressure At the moment he has a decent chance of flipping scum.
Jaybrundage is very scummy and is an acceptable lynch for tomorrow
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On February 12 2012 14:52 RayzorFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 14:35 chaoser wrote: If I'm mafia then I must be world-class Oh that you are <3 I do agree with your last opinion on Palmar though, his insanely reckless/trolly play makes me think he's almost certainly black, and can just wreak havoc on the town while he goes about his own agenda. If he's scum, he's got balls of steel, lol... also: Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 12:21 Kurumi wrote: My train of thought WBG is scummy. No way of swinging lynch on him. He defends Sheth, high probability of being scumbuddies. Proceed to vote Sheth. Then I get caught in my stupidity. My faith in my read on WBG crumbles. CC is the guy I never investigated because I tunneled people I've seen on my scum list. Layabout is on me now, was on CC. No way to get him up for lynch either. Forfeit him in favor of WBG. Then I get caught on being narrowminded and that most of my reads are for shreds. Although, Qualis still rubs me wrong way. Low activity, scummy behaviour, like, I can't be that wrong. I wonder if Kuru can bat 3 for 3 on this post... lol If you are town you shouldn't be suggesting we lynch a player in this fashion.
he also calls 4 players scum not 3
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On February 12 2012 21:52 rgTheSchworz wrote: I didnt announce the result and won t till i gain credibility. Right now scum like JayJay can Very easily talk about it. It won t be believed. Im keeping it for when there is a night action that can demonstrate my role. Since scum decided not to focus on me, so be it. They want to lynch me, wasting a day. They re getting uncovered atm. Stop listening to scum. I think i hate you
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I would like somebody to consolidate the case against ico/razerflash and present it
I would like people to comment on Kitaman27, jaybrundage tyrran and Kurumi. + Show Spoiler +and by "i would like" i mean "do it motherf*****s
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On February 12 2012 22:56 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote +Theoretically town gains not lynching Chaoser today, which is what we should be doing. However I have no faith that you are actually a dt, so I see no need to listen to your check. I´m not releasing the results of the checks till my role can be confirmed at night. No one will believe me anyway, and scum will be hopping on my wagon along with everyone. This way, scum at least have something to figure out. It is strange that rg is not willing to release chaoser's check unless he knows that he is going to die or because he thinks that no one will believe his result.
If schworz had a scum check on chaoser then releasing it and killing chaoser would gain him massive town cred, and would help town achieve its win condition
If schworz is town then act of not releasing the role suggests to scum (and 3rd party) that chaoser is worth checking/roleblocking/killing. Perhaps this is more WIFOM to confuse scum.
If he is scum then this act would deter town vigis from shooting at chaoser but could bait 3rd party in checking/shooting him.
If he is 3rd party then this act would deter town vigis from shooting at chaoser but would bait scum into roleblocking/shooting him.
To me it seems like he has very little reason to hide this check. If he had blue checks on Kurumi and chaoser then he should have shut up and not placed himself in a position that would force him to reveal them, or he should have shut up and helped town rather than spread confusion and reveal two town power roles even if it resulted in his death.
He has already released Kurumi's check and outed a blue, this has been confirmed by Kurumi. (they could be lying but that seems very unlikely).
So now that his claim has been near-confirmed why does he hold back? People should believe him now, right?
Also, WBG was not only a veteran but a detective. This means that everyone on the scum team should have access to his night one check in addition to knowing that their team-mates are scum.
Why doesn't he release the check? I just want to point out that rg still isn't making sense and that he will need to give us more evidence to confirm himself. It seemed that he intended to give us his result for chaoser's flip anyway.
I am not asking rg to release his check but i am asking why he didn't.
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Tyrran and evantrees both make excellent lynch targets, because of voting, and scummy/unproductive posting. I will look at both in more depth before deciding who to vote.
Tyrran's play reminds me of his play in Purgatory except this time he hasn't been under much pressure.
Given the check on chaoser lynching him would be sub-optimal.
I can't make much sense of Bill Murray's posts. I also feel that not many other people can. So people might not be as accountable for their stances about him. His protects seem strange. I can understand a n2 protect on me (because i know my alignment and my motives for posting) But i am unsure of a n1 protect on me because i wasn't being serious for much of the day and was hoping to draw a hit for looking like the joker (it's a shame so many others did but they were much less subtle about it). He has lied to town. I tried reading through his posts in L and in one the the pick your power games (he was the inventor), but that was a fruitless endeavour. At some point i saw town motives in his posts.
I think Bill is an inferior target to tyrran evantrees, In my eyes Kitaman and jaybrundage would also make better targets.
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On February 13 2012 00:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:I lied once,why should you believe me? Yes, it is.Chaoser isn´t going anywhere tomorrow, we still have to lynch 4 scum if chaoser is indeed scum. If he´s VT, same thing. Let´s keep scum guessing a little bit. Show nested quote +If he is scum then this act would deter town vigis from shooting at chaoser but could bait 3rd party in checking/shooting him. By this point I am not scum. I don´t know how any people could think that. All my actions would be incredibly gutsy as scum,and would have no purpose.None at all. Plus scum doesn´t have any DT´s left, so you assume scum investigated Kurumi n1.That˙s a big if. I also think I know your role by now. If I am right, you need to cut off this. Your actions are stupid.
Therefore we cannot rule out possibilities that include you being stupid. We cannot rule out the chance that you are scum and being stupid.
Confusing town, derailing discussion and outing blues are all things that benefit scum and they are all things that you have tried to do or successfully done.
However, since further night actions should shed some light on your alignment you are in little danger of being lynched and this discussion will not help with anything.
I don't think we can trust you yet. I tried to explain why so that people would not blindly think that you are confirmed town and open themselves up to more confusion.
Don't give me this "i think i know your role" jibberish. Call it.
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Just got PM i took a hit last night.
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the information i have: i took a hit last night my role would not allow me to survive said hit.
what i would then conclude: i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly)
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