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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 31 2012 22:45 GMT
#85
/in
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#148
To what degree is the no role claiming of Batman/Cat Woman enforced? Are they allowed to hint at their role without directly claiming? Are they allowed to claim their hits? Is town allowed to identify the third party roles by forcing a mass batman claim, where the only person not allowed to claim is revealed?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#305
Scum would love it if we outed the Joker. That means batman would be blue shooting instead of scum shooting night one. Toad said it best. Batman should be shooting scum suspects to find Hugo. It is much more likely the scum team to take care of the joker with a night hit than it is for Hugo to die from a vig hit. In addition, if Batman is cornered into a lynch and is forced to claim his hits, the town is much more likely to spare him if he has a scum shot on his resume, than if he has a list of blues that he has hit. Just look at LoTR mafia with how willing the town was to work with chaoser after he shot radfield. Catwoman should also consider shooting into scum early to ensure she will survive late game.

The only setup speculation worth talking about seems to be the choices certain blue players have. Assuming they are standard roles, I'd prioritize dt over vig obviously. I'd probably select medic over vig as well, but with two scum players holding a kp, vig could be more valuable to normal.

##Vote Visceraeyes
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 17:39 GMT
#319
Happy Birthday Toad!

In regards to my previous post, I just realized scum have a medic, so I would definitely prioritize a medic over vig for anyone who has a choice.

On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote:
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?

+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out.


He is allowed to claim his hits.

Funny how you step in to shoot down the setup discussion, yet don't bring up a topic yourself. I've got a bad scum habit of criticizing bad town discussion without contributing myself

On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?


I didn't like this post, but mostly I'm looking for reactions. Yours is quite disappointing.

On February 06 2012 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim


On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.


Cute. I'm suddenly your lead scum suspect because I voted for you?

BM you weren't serious about the mass claim were you? I hope you're not trying to play the same character as L. Palmar, you're sounding a lot like L as well. I don't think that turned out very well.

Waiting for Radfield's wall of text.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 06 2012 23:56 GMT
#419
Kurumi are you trying to be helpful??? Red flags!

Quite the absence of veterans at the moment. Are they really content with how the game is going so far or do they just not care? Day one is nearly over and a huge majority of them haven't said a thing of importance. Don't think you can make your first point at the 35 hour mark and expect to lead the lynch.

ico do you find anyone scummy or do you just plan to continue ranting on about dumb play and policy lynches? You seem to have mafia experience, so I'll remember to hold you to high standards.

On February 06 2012 19:19 Tyrran wrote:
Therefore, at least during the beginning of the game, Batman should not want to favor any side .


This sound like a plea to anyone? From a town perspective, I know I'd tell Batman to shoot scum, even if it weren't the ideal move. Can you post more Tyrran? I'd like to hear from you regarding other subjects.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 17:43 GMT
#547
ico's theme so far has been to promote a good thread environment. The only problem is that he is shooting down posts by others, but not making an attempt to improve the thread himself. He suggest that the discussion about random voting is derailing the thread, yet doesn't propose anything else to discuss. He makes an extremely safe comment about how the joker shouldn't claim, but has yet to make a legitimate contribution.

ico has shown no signs of scumhunting thus far. He has suggested a policy lynch on kenpachi and called Adam a threat to town for his random vote. However, in both situations he is not going after players he necessarily finds scummy, he is attacking players that are making "stupid" town plays. Stupid town play should be discussed post-game. The only people we should be lynching are those who are most likely mafia.

##Vote ico

Tobberoth has also flew under the radar. I'm not sure I've seen a single player mention him yet. His contributions have been safe and non-aggressive. He plays the noob card and spends most of his time discussing the setup. He jumps on the suspicion cast on kenpachi and VE, but doesn't add anything to the argument himself.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#552
BM I agree the strength of a mass claim is a potential threat to the scum team, but I'm not sure day one is the best time to pull it off. For it to work, the entire town has to agree to it or you're only outing the blues that decide to claim. Additionally, a large majority of the scum team can hide in the pool of vanilla town claims. Sure, it makes the people to claim blue look good, but confirming the town status of our dts, vigs, and medics does not seem like a beneficial trade in exchange for outing all their identities. I think I'd be more willing to consider it down the road.

lolol chaoser complaining about noobs? How ironic.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 20:21 GMT
#660
Sigh...
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 01:33 GMT
#755
I'm not sure I like a CC lynch. It is pretty rare for a scum to post a plan guiding town's direction and generating discussion on day one. His thoughts about RG/Hugo don't really make much sense, but are they scummy? I haven't had a chance to read Sheth though, but I'll post again in a bit. If I don't like him, I'll try to suggest an alternate candidate (likely ico or kurumi).
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#768
Sheth, mind posting when you are around? I have a question for you.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#779
opz knows best.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#790
mind posting your spreadsheet real quick?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#837
I'm still not a huge fan of either of the major lynches. I'll switch to ico for now. My case was posted earlier in the thread. Sixty minutes is a lot of time and the votes counts are relatively low so we aren't stuck with the current two candidates if we agree there is someone better out there.

chaoser/bugs/radfield trio gives me the creeps, but that's for another time.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:10 GMT
#840
kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#843
On February 08 2012 12:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:10 kitaman27 wrote:
kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important.

I am not trying to dodge the lynch, I don't give a fuck. Lynch me, fine. I understand why You're thinking that's a good decision.
No need for claiming anything. Let's say, stars aligned perfectly with something. Somehow I am on a vig spree lately.


You agree that it would be a pro-town move to name claim though correct? You already claimed vig so there is no harm. That way we can stop talking about you and whether or not your claim is real. Thanks.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#862
I'm worried that you won't get a chance to use your guns if you refuse to name claim

If you don't have a name to claim and were trying to draw a hit, just let us know before things spiral out of control. Your cases aren't all that bad as long as you aren't all over the place with them.

I didn't read the first arkham game. Was that the game with the name vig or was it a different one?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 03:39 GMT
#868
You have a role claim for us CC?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 04:06 GMT
#889
On February 08 2012 13:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Quick!!!! Everybody switch to Bill Murray. He's fishing!!!!!!


It's Tuesday night and your still around? Scum duties trump bowling?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#892
Congrats on 5k BM!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 16:51 GMT
#965
Discussing the claim from Toad or complaining about how bad it may or may not be is pretty pointless. He already claimed and he felt it was advantageous to do so. I don't really have any reason to doubt it at the moment. Is this really the topic people feel is most relevant to us catching scum?

Something I find interesting is the people who started to speculate that Cheese would flip third party, rather than scum. The mafia know that cheese couldn't have flipped scum, so Batman or Catwomen is the only roles they could speculate him being honestly. I know in past games, I've accidentally called players serial killers because I knew they couldn't be scum.

There were so many people on day one that were quiet or irrelevant that they don't have the luxury of staying quiet during the night. With 4-5 blue claims already and a number of vets to shoot through, I'm less worried about night discussion influencing scum hits.

chaoser, when I mentioned that I thought it was unlikely that cheese would suggest a plan while as scum, you immediately tried to shoot it down with a counter-example. I dislike how you were quick to dismiss the point by providing a rare exception with LSB. Your general attitude this game seems different.

bugs, it's interesting you would decide to pick the 1/31 chance that I would be gf. Worried that any dt checks will come clean?

If your name starts with a T, you need to post more. I'm having real trouble differentiating you guys. evantrees has been even more quiet than usual. slardar, opz, jay, ico, qualis, and katina leave much to be desired. People may be giving kurumi a hard time, but at least he is posting. I'll take that any day over an inactive.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 17:13 GMT
#973
On February 09 2012 02:08 Kurumi wrote:
Kita why are You rolefishing?


Only person I've rolefished from so far has been you and that was because you already claimed to have a gun. I felt you roleclaiming would allow us to decide whether or not you are lying without much consequence since mafia already knows your blue status. I guess you could count cyber as a bluefish, but that was 15 minutes before the lynch and I don't see any harm with that.

Dang Radfield calling me town? Does that mean you're shooting me tonight?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 17:21 GMT
#976
On February 09 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
It's about the response to wbg about DT checks.


I think you might have misinterpreted that. bugs asked me if I was the godfather and I replied wondering why he would call me gf, rather than scum, suggesting that it might be because he would know any dt checks on me wouldn't return red. I wasn't fishing for any dt roles. In fact, I don't need to fish for dt roles. They already claimed -_-
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 17:23 GMT
#978
I'm also Two-Face in case you were wondering.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 17:26 GMT
#981
Why so serious?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 18:32 GMT
#1014
On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.


Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 19:25 GMT
#1076
On February 09 2012 03:40 ico wrote:
Why should anyone listen to you Radfield? You and BM are the only ones talking about that mysterious other forum (unless I missed someone).
For all I know that is the scumqt and you guys make things up trying to take control.


I said to give town cred to whoever doesn't have knowledge of the mason quicktopic, but pretending doesn't work
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 19:28 GMT
#1079
Since everyone seems to be forgetting this....mafia have a medic. Forecasting vig shots is gives them an idea to protect. Only claim your shot at the deadline.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 19:36 GMT
#1091
On February 09 2012 04:34 ico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 04:25 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:40 ico wrote:
Why should anyone listen to you Radfield? You and BM are the only ones talking about that mysterious other forum (unless I missed someone).
For all I know that is the scumqt and you guys make things up trying to take control.


I said to give town cred to whoever doesn't have knowledge of the mason quicktopic, but pretending doesn't work


Why are you lying kitaman27? Show me where you said that.


In the quicktopic:

Since the scum team likely knows about the mason topic, those in the thread who sound surprised or question it probably should be given some degree of cred.


I was trying to bait someone into questioning its legitimacy. Did you take the bait?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 19:37 GMT
#1094
Palmar is either trolling or has a crazy split personality post restriction -_-
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 19:44 GMT
#1105
-_-
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 21:37 GMT
#1192
Scum quicktopic must have having a laugh right about now.

Palmar's trolling was cute at first, but things have gotten too spammy for even me.

Thread Palmar and fake Palmar are the same person. For Palmar to have not received a mason invite from Jackal, it would mean that Jackal is lying. Jackal is not lying because he has a blue role that only makes sense for Zsasz. Furthermore, Palmar would being having a tantrum at the moment if he was being impersonated, not casually laughing it off. I'm going to assume Palmar is playing towards his win condition if he is blue. Even with a post restriction, creating this much chaos is not necessary.

As for the two-faced claim, he is clearly lying as well. I was going to wait for the day cycle, but the chaos is just too much at the moment and someone needs to set things straight. Here is how things went down:

Toad: I'm Two-Faced.
Palmar: lol me too! Now here is the secret to our immortality!

Uhh...no.

Now Palmar is a player that stands by a LAL policy. We already have two instances where he has lied. The only reason that it makes sense as town for him to claim two-faced would be if he is trying to draw a hit. The problem? That goes against his LAL policy that he tries so hard to promote in other games. Read the post game of couples therapy mafia. He gives GM an extremely hard time for fake claiming doc to draw a hit. A few games later do we really think he is trying to do the same thing? What does lying about the phone booth quicktopic do for town?

Conclusion: Palmar is not town
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 21:57 GMT
#1202
On February 09 2012 06:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Why should mafia Palmar want to claim that?


It doesn't matter. He is not town:

On November 24 2011 18:23 Palmar wrote:
This is how I intend to run town:

I will be running a strict Lynch-All-Liars policy (LAL) and will push hard to enforce it. With a game this big we cannot afford townies running amok with some ridiculous plans of how lying will somehow benefit town. Do not lie, you will be held accountable.


He has lied twice already. We should hold him accountable by his own standards.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 23:06 GMT
#1210
Out of all the things you can talk about evantrees, you decide to discuss whether or not this is a normal game?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2012 23:29 GMT
#1219
On February 09 2012 08:11 Palmar wrote:
Kitaman27, because I'm just that awesome I'm going to kill you instead tonight. risk.nuke can wait till another day.


Did you roll third party yet again or are you just scum trying to imitate third party? Either way, the only way you're arguing your way out of a lynch is if you shoot scum. Good luck with that
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 09 2012 00:14 GMT
#1225
On February 09 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Katina - Still have no idea who Katina thinks is scum. She's popped in to toss in a comment or two during the shennanies, but interestingly no comment on who should hang or why.


How do you know Katina is a "she"?...
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 09 2012 04:50 GMT
#1269
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
Random Ace quote


On February 09 2012 02:01 chaoser wrote:
In fact every single mafia loss ends with the host or Ace coming in to say the mafia needed to be more active and try to control town discussion. I know for a fact that both BC and Ace make plans and are in a leadership position if they roll scum in a game.


On February 09 2012 09:56 chaoser wrote:
Ace must be the most useless player to have ever played this game then...


On February 09 2012 13:46 chaoser wrote:
I've done more for this town then you've done? Okay bro. I'mma pull an Ace and ignore.


Sounds like somebody has a secret crush
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 09 2012 13:28 GMT
#1480
well this is silly

##Vote DoctorHelvetica
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 09 2012 13:58 GMT
#1488
So what's your name radfield?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 09 2012 14:19 GMT
#1514
On February 09 2012 23:11 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:
So what's your name radfield?

Nope


Just don't shoot your good buddy kita. I'm not the droid you are looking for.

On February 09 2012 23:11 Radfield wrote:
How bout you explain to me why after reading the Schworz/Toad/DocH situation you came out with the conclusion of lynching DocH.


Because I'm generally more willing to believe the dt claim over the guy arguing himself out of a red check who claims to have taken a hit. schworz has a few things to explain, but its early in the day.

Likely will switch to Sheth depending on how things turn out.
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#1521
On February 09 2012 23:13 Palmar wrote:
Remember when I at the start of the game posted the lyrics to "Don't Cry" by guns and roses?


Guns and Roses would be a good Poison Ivy the vigilante breadcrumb as well :p
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#1633
Schworz, can you confirm that you have no special dt flavor that would impact your results and that you received an alignment, not a role last night?
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#1727
On February 09 2012 18:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I ask BC "Is there any possibility that our role PMs are not completely true? Can somebody get a result other than "ROLE" by DT checking me?" and he says No.


Schworz

Could you please address this issue? You have failed to comment on it when it is clearly relevant.
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#1762
lol it would be hilariously depressing if the scum team decided to dt check sheth and it came back miller XD
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#1864
On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.


You sure do like to talk about catwomen don't you :/

On February 10 2012 04:48 rgTheSchworz wrote:
So, the check should be real. However, you can just ignore it, Rad s check hasn t been scoffed at as was mine.


You've dodged the question 3-4 times now. DrH said that all dt's return role not alignment to dt checks. You gave us a alignment, but not a role. Could you please respond? You're not being very transparent right now.

BM, for someone who mentioned how he couldn't wait to roll town, you sure haven't done much scumhunting. You also mentioned that you rarely read the thread as scum. It takes more than a name claim to prove you are town.

@Palmar. I like a chaoser lynch too. He appeared to have something invested in the CC day one lynch, although we will have to probably wait to see if Sheth's flip makes that relevant.

Kurumi, day one you claimed vigilante, but the number of possible roles you could be is running pretty thin. I think we need to revisit your name claim in the near future.

Did I miss anyone who claimed a hit?
Jackal - Mafia kp
DrH- ??
Radfield- ??
schworz- ??
kenpachi - Harley Quinn
Slardar - Penguin

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#2297
On February 12 2012 08:44 layabout wrote:
He isn't here.
This Kitaman27 is scum


It's because he is busy playing irc mafia. You should too.

(I'll respond later)
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#2312
Layabout, I'll respond to some of your posts if I survive the night. I'm afraid I'd run out of time getting this in before the deadline if I wasted time responding to you. It should also be noted that I haven't had a great chance to read through the thread after the Sheth flip. Most of these reads have been just filter searching without the context of the entire thread in mind.

The badguys:
ico/rayzorflash
chaoser or bugs (possibly both)
evantrees
jaybrundage
Palmar
Radfield


chaoser
When the lynch was between Sheth and Cyber, he never mentions Sheth's name once. For a lynch that seems evenly split, it is certainly strange that he doesn't have an opinion. He have been going after all the wrong people. He has a theme of picking apart poorly constructed ideas or posts, but none of his posts add much value to the thread. It feels to me that he is more interested in complaining about the state of the thread or defending himself than finding scum. I think he would be a good lynch tomorrow.

ico/rayzorflash:
I made a case earlier and his replacement hasn't really changed my mind. Look at the way he talks about Sheth:

On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt.


Willing to call him scum (because he knows he is), but unwilling to vote for him. I think he is a good secondary lynch candidate tomorrow.

wherebugsgo:
I'm running out of time to get this in before the deadline so I won't develop an entire case just yet, but he has been off his game thus far. He starts off with a forced case on schworz, which reminds me of the LSB case in Responsibility Mafia. He hard defends the sheth lynch against CC. As a mafia player, I don't think he has any problem sticking up for a scumbuddy if need be. The don't lynch sheth nonsense on day two reminds me of how he tried to dispute the role cop claim in couples mafia. He's willing to push a scum objective when most people would think "scum would never do that". I'll have to reevaluate him in the near future.

jaybrundage

He doesn't really have many posts to go by. His biggest post is essentially just a summary of what is going on. I found it funny that he posted this a few hours before the deadline when its like 20 votes for sheth and 2 votes for random other people. Who exactly were you trying to convice?

On February 11 2012 09:49 jaybrundage wrote:
I also think the sheth lynch is the way to go. No reason to hold it off
[/b]

evantrees:
Nothing in his filter really shows that he cares about town. His vote on CC is really spontaneous and he doesn't seem to give an adequate reason.

Radfield:

I don't see town motivation for his dt claim. A detective's biggest fear is the roleblock. Why claim after one check if you're going to be useless for the rest of the game? A town detective would push the lynch without claiming, which doesn't totally shut down discussion for the day, gives the town more information since the lynch isn't set in stone and protects his identity from rb. To me, the claim seems like an attempt at gaining town cred. Claiming the hit likely makes him third party, but with the scum medic/scum vet possibility, I'd reevaluate the possibility that he could be scum down the road.

Palmar:
Lying, trolling, and spamming. He is destroying the thread with nonsense. I still don't see him as town. His claimed shot on radfield makes third party a strong possibility. I just wish that he could go about his business without posting.

Possible Others:
kurumi: fake vig claim
Adam: not quite sure I have a good reason.
BM: Similarities in playstyle to L
opz: I've enjoyed the roleplaying, but have no idea what his alignment is
There are several players whose filters I haven't read in a good 72 hours.
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#2333
lol looks like bugs received a visit from batman. opz seems like a likely catwomen shot, though I suppose it could be mafia. We're either missing 1 or 2 kp depending on if DrH was double stacked or not.

You going to claim roleblock radfield?

Looks like we have our two lynch candidates for today. chaoser vs RayzorFlash
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February 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#2836
Apologies for my absence. I've been without internet for the last 24 hours. I tried to stop by the library yesterday, but all the computers were taken and I didn't stick around to wait. Funny that I'm apparently suddenly scum because I go half a day without posting. Since when have I ever been an afk scum? I already gave you guys the list of bad guys, what more do you want? I could spam up the thread and make a new fake claim every few hours if that would make everyone feel better.

The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.

The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol

Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well.

In response to layabout:
I never voted for VE because it was a random vote hours into the game to promote discussion. At the end of the day, I'm voting for ico, the person I think most likely to flip scum.

You attack me for mentioning that I don't think CC suggests a plan as scum. It may not be a common theme for games you've played in, but its a heuristic that seems to work pretty well. So what exactly is my motivation? I'm explaining why I'm unwilling to vote for CC. You would think giving people are reason not to vote for him would give me townie points not scum points.

I don't really follow your discussion about kurumi. He fake claims vig, I pushed him for a name claim because I thought he was lying. (Turns out he was) Does that make him scum? Maybe, not really looking at him at the moment.

How exactly was I supposed to explain my stance on Sheth? There was a red dt check. Not really much to discuss. Fake dt claims don't make sense in those kind of situations. You're trying to say that I was pushing a chaoser lynch instead of a Sheth lynch? lol. Sheth obviously was flipping. It was like 22v2. My discussion about a chaoser lynch was for subsequent days. This point is silly.

I like an evantrees lynch.
-He accuses CC as being catwomen and states that he plans to vote for him. Scum know that he can't be scum, so they accuse their suspects of being third party.
-When actually voting for CC, he uses the phrase "bah" as if he doesn't want to vote or is being bullied into voting. This was the guy you just said you wanted lynched hours earlier wasn't it?
-He votes Schworz on early day two. Scum know that DrH can't possibly be red. I think everyone should go back and read the Schworz-DrH exchange and take a look at who has additional knowledge of the situation.

I must have missed something. Why does everyone consider chaoser green/blue? I can't seem to find where Schworz gives the result of his check. This is the guy that fake claimed the day one check. Why is anything he says actually taken at face-value?

If not evantrees I think I'd still prefer rayzorflash or chaoser. I was kinda spooked when evantrees asks a question about a scum role in green, but scum have done that plenty of times in the past (I hate when they do -_-)
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February 13 2012 17:33 GMT
#2848
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.
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#2856
On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.


alright, I asked for your advice. I think you are a vet and know what to do.

##unvote


Don't try to sheep onto me. Vote giving your own reasons.

On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
I still don't agree on evantrees, however. What about NUKE, I made a case, if you want to have a look. I still think he's the best lynch of the lurk fraction.


I'd be much more open to lynching you than risk. There was an error in the votecount. Risk voted for sheth on day one making it something like 9v7 in favor of Sheth. Why are you unwilling to vote evantrees who called bugs scum, yet so willing to lynch risk, who called Sheth scum. Could you explain your preference?
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#2857
Scum coming out in full force to get Radfield lynched? lol
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#2862
On February 14 2012 02:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
as to why nuke >> evantrees:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&currentpage=139#2776


I don't find much value in that case. Why don't you take into account his vote on Sheth? Instead, you make it out to seem like a bad thing. What do you think about Rayzor and chaoser?
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#2873
On February 14 2012 03:04 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:55 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
as to why nuke >> evantrees:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&currentpage=139#2776


I don't find much value in that case. Why don't you take into account his vote on Sheth? Instead, you make it out to seem like a bad thing. What do you think about Rayzor and chaoser?


He votes after the DT check, same as evantrees. There is basically nothing to take into account, because he was 100% bussed (which negates evantree towntell as well at this point). I just don't like the "funny" sentence. Also, he is the most active lurker and hasn't done shit. He is much less coinflip to me than evan. He only jumps out to defend himself.
[/quote]

He votes Sheth on day one too? That's kinda a big thing to miss...


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February 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#2887
On February 14 2012 03:14 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:10 kitaman27 wrote:
He votes Sheth on day one too? That's kinda a big thing to miss...


I missed it cause it didn't happen


It did happen.

On February 08 2012 07:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I think the people voting for sheth are greener then the people voting for cc,
changing my pointless vote on toad to sheth.


On February 08 2012 07:22 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote: Liquid`Sheth


There was a mistake in the voting count, but I'd at least think you would have read all his posts.

Radfield is not getting lynched today

The point of the game is not to confirm whether or not Palmar is a third party. The point of the game is to lynch scum. It doesn't give us tons of information.

Do you guys really not care about lynching scum? We have a scum contested lynch on day one and a second red flip on day two and you guys are more interested in killing off the guy who provided a red check? Cmon now.

I'm stuck writing up my 3k post, but I'll be back in a bit. Don't say anything I'd want to respond to in the meantime -_-
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February 13 2012 20:47 GMT
#2983
The case on ico/rayzorflash

We have to lynch base on the day one Sheth vs CC results. It was just too close to ignore and is the most solid piece of evidence we have so far. Anyone on Radfield should be switching off, else I'm just going to assume you're scum.

On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
Cyber_Cheese actually makes a decent vote, I'll repeat myself and say how scummy I find him being very active during a time he excused himself for prior. He is also fishing for the Joker. And he enabled DoctorSpamalot going on and on about batman, littering the thread. After his vote on RG gains some following he vanishes.


Here is his entire case for voting for cyber_cheese. Essentially it boils down to CC posting more than expected and promoting a poor plan with the joker claim. For someone who is so willing to criticize others play, this sure does seem like a weak reason.

On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt.


ico is willing to call Sheth scummy, but is unwilling to actually vote for Sheth. The easiest way to comment on a fellow scum buddy is either to provide a null read or state that he is scummy, but there are better alternatives. We've got both here.

ico is replaced on day two by rayzorflash. He is willing to vote for Sheth after the dt check, but that doesn't say all that much.

On February 12 2012 14:14 RayzorFlash wrote:
Beautiful delicious concrete information as opposed to speculation. Time to go back to WBG's filter and analyze analyze analyze...


After the bugs flip, he wants us all to know that he is going to go through bug's filter. So what have you learned? What conclusions did your analysis give us? He fails to ever follow up with this point.

On February 12 2012 14:26 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 14:19 chaoser wrote:
ico/rayzorflash is mafia


chaoser is mafia


Next comes his interaction with chaoser, his one and only mafia suspect. Never does Rayzor actually provide a case. When faced with Schworz's "check", he immediately backs off. For someone who is your lead scum suspect, why are you so willing to believe this? Schworz never even stated the result of his check, yet you're clearly willing to accept it.

On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...

##vote: Radfield


Finally, rather than searching for an alternative candidate, he jumps on the radfield/palmar wagon. He doesn't even call either of them scum. He is willing to trust Schworz the proven liar as a detective, but not Radfield, the guy who claimed the Sheth check?

RayzorFlash is scum. You should be voting him.

##vote RayzorFlash
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February 13 2012 21:03 GMT
#2989
On February 14 2012 05:58 Radfield wrote:
Actually, this is why I thought that:

Show nested quote +
Kitaman Wrote: The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.

The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol

Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well.


What happened Kita, got cold feet? From what I can see there you should be dead set on lynching me, yet now you are pushing to keep me alive. Care to explain?


I just don't buy that your Calendar Man (I'm still not sure that he is even a real batman villian :p).

Just because I think you're likely black, doesn't mean we can't coexist as long as you're benefiting town as well. I'm looking for red

What do you think about my case on Rayzor?
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February 13 2012 21:28 GMT
#2999
On February 14 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
Unless a medic comes forward and claims the protect on Radfield N1, then I think we should go through with the Radfield lynch. This doesn´t feel like we´re a lynching a Townie.


I was leaning town on you, but posts like these make me sad
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February 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#3003
On February 14 2012 06:31 layabout wrote:
Does anybody object to lynching Tyrran or Evantrees?


Would you be willing to make a case? I have no idea why Tyrran wasn't on my list from last night. Must have got him confused with the other T's

Back in a bit.
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#3015
On February 14 2012 07:46 Forumite wrote:
It´s late, and I don´t think I´ll be around again before the lynch. If you change the lynch then fine, I still think lynching Radfield is the way to go. Leaving my vote on him.

If you do change the lynch, please consider jaybrundage, or maybe Rayzorflash. They are my strongest scumreads after Radfield right now.


Please move off radfield if you won't be back. You're going to put yourself in a bad spot late game if you don't.
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February 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#3017
Sigh I'm surrounded by trolls.

chaoser, you around? You may be scum, but at least you're a logical scum. -_-
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February 13 2012 23:21 GMT
#3020
Kita needs to take a break before he starts calling people something other than silly...
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February 14 2012 00:15 GMT
#3026
[image loading]


Riddle me this:

I can hear you while you're alone.
If you see me, I'm a pest.
When you shoot me twice at night,
I die like all the rest.


What am I?

+ Show Spoiler +
Bugs!


It's about time I make my grand entrance. All this talk about Radfield is so boring. Lets talk about the star of the show! Me, of course! Did I shoot bugs? No, but only because somebody stole my kill. What a disappointment.

For those who haven't caught on yet, I'm the Riddler. The Riddler is confirmed to be in this game by the day two post. I have bread-crumbed my identity in the phone booth quicktopic by posting three question marks as my identity. Nobody can counter claim my role, so I am confirmed blue.

I have a gun.
I have two guns.!!
I have three guns!!!

Unfortunately, I can't use them yet. That would be too rash. First I make my victims play a little game! I won't reveal the details of the game, but since I'm confirmed blue, you may trust me. I know you're all going to have a bunch of questions about how my role works, but I'll keep that a secret for now. Don't spam up the thread with questions. Today's lynch is the main concern.

My shots can pierce vets and medic protections. The only two players that I cannot kill are Catwomen and Batman. I'll take care of the Palmar/Radfield situation, but we need to unlock my power and allow me to get my three shots off (they all fire on the same night). On day one I was forced to select one player. Until that player dies, my power remains locked while players have time to escape my game. The player I selected was ico (rayzorflash). My game continues even after death if he dies.

So here is the deal. We lynch rayzorflash today. I could be wrong about him, but even if I am, sitting by while Radfield gets lynch doesn't help us at all. In exchange, the town gains three additional vig shots to use, which can confirm any third parties or shoot scum suspects. This is game changing and cannot be ignored. Anyone who doesn't move their vote to rayzorflash will be considered anti-town and I will strongly consider shooting you. Lets get moving
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February 14 2012 01:12 GMT
#3048
On February 14 2012 10:10 risk.nuke wrote:
kita, what happens if you get roleblocked?


I GAIN SIX GUNS!

Or maybe nothing. One of the two.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:33 GMT
#3051
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Riddle Me This:
What suit of cards lays eggs?

One that is chicken hearted.

How is this relevant? Maybe that's a riddle in itself!

I decided to put the town through a little thought experiment to gain information, but mainly because I like the attention.

ico you are not the trigger to my vig shots. Enjoy your new lease on life! Mainly I was interested in who suddenly appeared to swap their vote and how people reacted to the claim.

The real person I selected as my trigger was chaoser? Why? Well I like to see him die. Nearly as much as kavdragon. Luckily, he also happens to be scum. Its a win-win situation! You can all complain about how I'm leading in circles, but my identity as the Riddler has been confirmed. Therefore, you must know that I have the town's best interests in mind.

Everyone should be voting chaoser.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:39 GMT
#3058
On February 14 2012 10:37 Toadesstern wrote:
how is your identity confirmed? rayzor said it's you because you've chosen him and you can't fake that. Apparently you did...
I think we stay on radfield for today and talk about chaoser tomorrow.


rayzor, Palmar, and chaoser all confirmed that they were invited to play my game. There are others as well. Are you facing a four person conspiracy? We can't wait until tomorrow. If I die before my trigger does, my game comes to an unfortunate end
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#3059
On February 14 2012 10:39 Toadesstern wrote:
it's only 2:37 am in germany! But yeah I don't see why people are doing stuff like this so late... Like it's on purpose, at least I did it the last time on purpose when we were doing the big cluserfuck in XLVIII


Look at my hair. ITS ORANGE! That probably means I'm Irish. The Riddler loves Europeans.

On February 14 2012 10:38 Adam4167 wrote:
Right. Fuck this noise. Im done listening to Kita.

Unvote RayzorFlash
Vote Radfield


Looks like I have a new invite to my game. You we more than willing to go along with my fake trigger. Do you suddenly believe I'm lying about my identity now that the target has changed?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:46 GMT
#3065
On February 14 2012 10:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 10:42 Toadesstern wrote:
nice to know. Maybe palmar shoots you instead of me because he thought you're mafia as well.
Anyways I'm off to bed. I'm going to shoot everyone who unvotes rad because of this bullshit. Of course not literally but most likely one of you even if it's the last thing I do (which it most likely will be).

this was obviously directed at our beloved riddler..

I'm off to bed. Let's do the palmar and see what the derptrain does until tomorrow.


So you're going to add another townie to your collection of shots?

Mr. Clown Prince of Crime, please step aside.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#3068
On February 14 2012 10:47 risk.nuke wrote:
All that matters is we need to somehow achieve majority on chaoser. Due to kita beeing a bit stupid and ignorant to time deadlines of other nations


I'll apologize for that. I wasn't sure about the details of what I was allowed to claim until recently.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:57 GMT
#3072
On February 14 2012 10:52 Adam4167 wrote:
Where was this claim 8 hours ago when you returned to the thread? Why wait until less than 3 hours before a lynch to try and swing the result in a different direction?


Sorry about the timing, but like I said before I wasn't sure what I'm allowed to claim. You don't dispute that I'm the Riddler do you? Are you really so confident that Radfied is scum that you would be unwilling to lynch a likely scum suspect that unlocks three town aligned kps?

On February 14 2012 10:52 Radfield wrote:
I like that people are refusing to move off the DT who has caught scum, based on a claim that a trolling confirmed third party made.... this is a whole new low.

Imagine for a minute that I was voting scum Day 1....
Now imagine that I checked that scum....
Now imagine the thread that is a clusterfuck, only to be straightened out by me outting my check....

Wait!? That all happened!?

Now imagine yourself cherry picking one of Palmar's claims, and deciding to vote off that dt....

See the problem here???


I think you owe The Riddler a favor. Wanna become one of my minions? I've always wanted to give Curling a try.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#3073
Since I saved you, you're my minion too Rayzor.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#3077
Don't question each other my minions. We're tight.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#3080
On February 14 2012 11:18 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Sorry about the timing, but like I said before I wasn't sure what I'm allowed to claim. You don't dispute that I'm the Riddler do you? Are you really so confident that Radfied is scum that you would be unwilling to lynch a likely scum suspect that unlocks three town aligned kps?


And if I was to dispute that you were the Riddler, would that put me into your game?


Probably. I'll even send Calendar Man after you. I'm not quite sure what his super villain power is, but he's got a cape, so that has got to count for something.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:27 GMT
#3082
On February 14 2012 11:26 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 11:18 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 14 2012 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Sorry about the timing, but like I said before I wasn't sure what I'm allowed to claim. You don't dispute that I'm the Riddler do you? Are you really so confident that Radfied is scum that you would be unwilling to lynch a likely scum suspect that unlocks three town aligned kps?


And if I was to dispute that you were the Riddler, would that put me into your game?


Probably. I'll even send Calendar Man after you. I'm not quite sure what his super villain power is, but he's got a cape, so that has got to count for something.


And if I was to win your game? What would be my reward?


Nobody has ever outwitted the Riddler.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:29 GMT
#3084
On February 14 2012 11:28 RayzorFlash wrote:
Off-topic: Lol, Calendar Man doesnt have a cape actually... He commits crimes to co-incide with holidays/dates on the calendar (btw, BC, I hope you gave him some specialty for Valentine's Day tomorrow )... He's often taken as a joke because of how stupid and lame his crimes are though, lol... If you're interested in him, read The Long Halloween, good comic...

<--- Is Huge Batman Nerd

On-topic: I hate the riddler game... I might end up dying because of it regardless tonight >_<


Is it a coincidence that tomorrow is Valentines Day? I think not!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:47 GMT
#3089
It's going to be interesting to see who is unwilling to show their face. Radfield is still way ahead of votes with 70 minutes remaining.

Does the scum team really not want me to obtain my vig shots?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 02:58 GMT
#3090
On February 11 2012 12:13 Adam4167 wrote:
I am not disputing the check from Radfield, I really don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like that. Radfield looks disengaged from all this carnage, I wouldn't be surprised if the one true thing Palmar has said is that Radfield is 3rd party.


So Adam, any reason for the complete 180? You say you don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like this, yet a day later you're voting for him. Do you really think he is scum or are you simply upset of the way I provided my claim?

What are your thoughts on chaoser?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 03:25 GMT
#3092
On February 10 2012 04:24 jaybrundage wrote:
Radfield DT check could be legit. Palmar thinks hes a black a good possibility. But why cant radfield just be a regular DT tho who got medic protection. Palmar claiming an unblock-able hit seems off.


On February 14 2012 12:18 jaybrundage wrote:
##Unvote hiro Protagonist
##Vote Radfield


Oh hai.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 03:41 GMT
#3094
On February 14 2012 12:35 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 11 2012 12:13 Adam4167 wrote:
I am not disputing the check from Radfield, I really don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like that. Radfield looks disengaged from all this carnage, I wouldn't be surprised if the one true thing Palmar has said is that Radfield is 3rd party.


So Adam, any reason for the complete 180? You say you don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like this, yet a day later you're voting for him. Do you really think he is scum or are you simply upset of the way I provided my claim?

What are your thoughts on chaoser?


Well, your claim timing sucked, I'm not going to lie. Palmars list has me swayed that he knows whats going on, for better or worse, ill follow him on this one. Even if Palmar is 3rd party, he has no reason to be hanging town DT's, considering the current state of our town. Ergo hes doing this for a good reason. Just because I say I don't see any reason for it at the time, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to reconsider later.


To be honest, I have no clue about Chaoser. He could go either way. He sure looks fed up with this game, something I can relate to.


So lets get this straight. You think Palmar the mega troll has the best gameplan. You think Radfield voted Sheth day one as scum, you think Radfield revealed a scum check on Sheth day two as scum, you think bugs wrote out an essay bussing Radfield. Have you even called Rafield scum?

You also believe that I'm not the Riddler. chaoser, rayzor, and Palmar are all lying about me putting them into the game because there is a huge conspiracy theory going on. You think that somebody else in the game is the Riddler and will counterclaim me in the near future. And you say you're the one fed up? :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 03:46 GMT
#3096
On February 14 2012 12:45 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 12:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 12:35 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 14 2012 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 11 2012 12:13 Adam4167 wrote:
I am not disputing the check from Radfield, I really don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like that. Radfield looks disengaged from all this carnage, I wouldn't be surprised if the one true thing Palmar has said is that Radfield is 3rd party.


So Adam, any reason for the complete 180? You say you don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like this, yet a day later you're voting for him. Do you really think he is scum or are you simply upset of the way I provided my claim?

What are your thoughts on chaoser?


Well, your claim timing sucked, I'm not going to lie. Palmars list has me swayed that he knows whats going on, for better or worse, ill follow him on this one. Even if Palmar is 3rd party, he has no reason to be hanging town DT's, considering the current state of our town. Ergo hes doing this for a good reason. Just because I say I don't see any reason for it at the time, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to reconsider later.


To be honest, I have no clue about Chaoser. He could go either way. He sure looks fed up with this game, something I can relate to.


So lets get this straight. You think Palmar the mega troll has the best gameplan. You think Radfield voted Sheth day one as scum, you think Radfield revealed a scum check on Sheth day two as scum, you think bugs wrote out an essay bussing Radfield. Have you even called Rafield scum?

You also believe that I'm not the Riddler. chaoser, rayzor, and Palmar are all lying about me putting them into the game because there is a huge conspiracy theory going on. You think that somebody else in the game is the Riddler and will counterclaim me in the near future. And you say you're the one fed up? :p


lawl. owned. seriously kita, thank you for getting me out of this game lol


<3

Would you like to become my minion as well?

Don't forget to vote for yourself.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 04:09 GMT
#3102
Requesting a mercy night hit
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#3104
This was clearly all part of my test. Good job you guys. You passed.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 04:19 GMT
#3110
On February 14 2012 13:17 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chaoser - 6

risk.nuke
radfield
rayzorflash
kitaman27
evantrees
visceraeyes


nah kita, it was all part of your plan to figure out scum from not scum.

There's at least one scum in here due to the last minute almost save of radfield lol


I'm a hero.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 04:28 GMT
#3112
You're a hiro too.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#3120
On February 14 2012 09:39 RayzorFlash wrote:
I have no doubt he is the riddler because nobody else would know who the riddler's targeted to play his game (me)... The only thing i may doubt in Kita's post is the specifics of his bullets, but he has no reason to lie about those so, i believe him 100 percent


On February 14 2012 09:48 RayzorFlash wrote:
Oh so theres multiple people in the game and it randomly kills one of them?? Fuuuuu... Guess you'll have to lynch me then to ensure that i die...

I hate you kita, lol


On February 14 2012 15:25 rgTheSchworz wrote:
RayzorFlash is scum.


wherebugsgo was part of my game, so scum had knowledge that more than one person was selected. He could have played dumb, but that seems unlikely.

What I'm wondering is how doesn't the scum team manage to save Radfield? They obviously gave up a ton by sacrificing Sheth. With 5 scum votes, a rambling Riddler, and maybe a couple stray town votes, how couldn't they accumulate enough votes? Is chaoser a more important scum kp role? Do we have european scum who aren't around? Or is the scum team too passive to take a risk.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#3185
On February 15 2012 00:53 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm still considering shooting kita just for the lulz of getting a hattrick and being the single player that shot the most townies in this game. But than again, I guess that's mod-kill / banlist worthy so I guess if I really want to shoot kita I'd have to write an 500words essay about why I think kita is a good target and pm it to BC first to net get banned.


<3
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2012 22:22 GMT
#3230
Rayzor, could you post in the thread when you are around?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#3237
On February 15 2012 11:09 Bill Murray wrote:
I saved layabout n2


Well done!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#3240
In case I die, these are the players that are part of my game (I went with option 2). I may or may not have some control over which of those blow up. If you're on the list and feel a roleclaim or something will confirm yourself, feel free to give it a try. The stuff about killing chaoser to unlock my kps was nonsense. The odds of Radfield flipping scum were just so low that I felt there were better lynches available. At least things happened to work out :p

evantrees
jaybrundage
Palmar
chaoser (sounds like he is dying?)
rayzorflash

For today's lynch:
Take a look at the day one Sheth vs CC lynch.
Take a look at the fake DrH check.
Take a look to the reaction to Radfield's "check"
Take a look at the Radfield lynch
Look for conversation that took place between Sheth, Radfield, or bugs and other players in the thread

Something that nobody has mentioned is that Radfield couldn't have taken a shot from Palmar if he is Batman or CW. The third party shots pierce hugo's medic protection. Hopefully I'm still alive
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 15 2012 04:14 GMT
#3243
On February 15 2012 13:13 evantrees wrote:
Kita you forgot this
Batman
Also due to your past history with both Talia and catwoman you cannot eliminate either of them.


ah ya, must have missed that.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 15 2012 05:07 GMT
#3248
gl town
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2012 04:42 GMT
#3740
On February 18 2012 13:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
Kita: I know you're obs-ing this...

F*** you... Seriously... You and your stupid game... lol


^_^
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Last Edited: 2012-02-23 17:39:45
February 23 2012 16:05 GMT
#4180
gg scum team. Interesting strategy. Still caught off-guard by the bus on consecutive days o.O

Thanks for hosting BC and Curu!

I don't really mind the fact that the scum team was allowed to discuss my riddles. I kinda assumed that was the case.

On February 09 2012 09:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Katina - Still have no idea who Katina thinks is scum. She's popped in to toss in a comment or two during the shennanies, but interestingly no comment on who should hang or why.


How do you know Katina is a "she"?...


lol wish I would have followed up on this one :p

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 23 2012 19:50 GMT
#4203
The answer to the second riddle was lurker (invisible, lurker drops, lurker banes)
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