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/in
Looks interesting, though have barely started reading the previous one.
I like the past history bits and the Deadshot extra kp for a while seems like an interesting addition.
aw miller this time found the traitor an amusing idea, but seems to make sense given the setup.
random questions
So catwoman a 3rd party blue hunter, looking for two face(dt or vig) and penguin(vig).
She wins when two face and penguin are eliminated.
Eliminated by any means? lynch/vig/her
Hugo Strange
He has also deduced Batman's secret identity, having analyzed him from afar
does this mean mafia knows who batman is from the start?
Ra's al Ghul
so on 3rd parties his dt check returns whatever they chose?
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It begins indeed.
Mafia Kp is 3. It drops to 1 only when 1 member of the team is alive, and they lose a kp if the gf dies
Just to make sure this isn't referring to the deadshot kp is it?
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Are all the town vigs oneshot?
Would be a potential reason for joker not to claim. Otherwise seems worth considering particularly if he finds someone he wants to shoot.
and bill is already bugging me, great...
On February 06 2012 15:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I propose no more question askings individual to individual, only statements of factual information, or propositions to the group as a whole
Please read the first page again bill, its not too much to ask that doing the second you don't ignore the factual information we have is it?
Ignoring the massclaim part.
On February 06 2012 15:52 Bill Murray wrote:
That being said, I want to massclaim. It really backs scum up into having to fake names. It's a video game/fictional universe, how many characters are there, or would I be surprised?
There is a list on the first page of all the names potentially in the game, and this nice note.
Note:
Some names appear under 2 categories. These players will have to decide to be one or the other for their role. They are not both. Some roles might also have slight alterations to the "standard" although nothing game breaking. Not all names listed are guarenteed to be in this game, however only names listed will be in this game. Each role, much like Asylum, will have unique flavour text to make the gf style roles have more fun with the game. See Arkham Asylum for flavour text examples that I used for when you submit your role choice.
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@BM Don't listen to him turning down the level of complete nonsense would be great, thanks.
would Bill's mass claim plan result in modkills?
Hoping rgTheSchworz is just an idiot townie, like VE was in L.
Honestly I think part of his claiming was wanting to go to sleep due to location(Romania) and not winding up lynched when he woke up.
I Think CC is catwoman for some damned reason, so I am fine voting for him but still considering.
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Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
Proper voting format is
##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?
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To bring up something old.
On February 08 2012 03:10 Jackal58 wrote:A wild Chaoser appears!!!!!!! Being stalked by a wild Tobberoth!!!!!! People I have played with that need to post more: risk.nuke ~OpZ~ Your inactivity makes me nervous. People I don't know or don't know well that haven't posted jack shit: Slardar Tobberoth jaybrundage Tyrran ico evantreesKatina Adam4167 evantrees is scum. That's a scum question.
That is me wondering if joker is not totally neutered from his asylum self, would not have been surprised if he were a compulsive vig.
Would be a reason not to turn joker over to batman wouldn't it?
Never did get an answer so not sure what to make of it.
GIven mafia kp being at 3 max though, it seems unlikely now.
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From active list of games it is apparently a "normal" game.
Ongoing Game List - Updated Feb 8
[T][I] Sleeper Cell 2 - 9/15 alive; due to end Feb 12 - Feb 18 (iGrok is host; Greymist is cohost)
[M][N] Normal Mini Mafia I - 8/12 alive; due to end Feb 11 - Feb 16 (GMarshal is host; redFF is cohost)
[N] BC's Arkham City - 30/31 alive; due to end Feb 18 - Feb 28 (BloodyC0bbler is host; Curu is cohost)
I though it was themed but apparently not. What is the difference exactly? Themed just get super crazy?
On February 09 2012 04:39 layabout wrote:
what have i just read?
If you are on Jackal's list can you please confirm/deny it's existence, it can only help town.
I was invited, why not sure I have a hunch.
On February 09 2012 05:21 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host). All right, so there is no way for somebody to be masoned and still not know about eachothers alignment? And this is an actual question because I don't know.
Depends on the game, there are games like L where both sides have masons, or just plain full on pm games.
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On February 09 2012 08:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Out of all the things you can talk about evantrees, you decide to discuss whether or not this is a normal game?
Started with some simpler stuff to respond to, posted then went to read the QT.
"evantrees has been even more quiet than usual."
I feel like I have had less to complain about, trying to do less of that anyways, after some comments from L think it was postgame.
Catwoman if you would be so kind as to let our DT live a little while, this mess will probably continue giving you a chance to hide, go look for the penguin at this rate two face will probably be dead when you get back.
Can we strongly consider lynching the next person to claim without a damned reason?
Palmer who was in the lead for dumbest post when cheese was lynched?
On February 09 2012 03:59 Toadesstern wrote:
what's the deadline in KST?
I said I'm going to talk about it tomorrow and I might as well just do it a minute before the deadline to make sure (for you) I'm not bullshitting you guys.
The deadline is 1 Kst.
Slardar what part of "unless a role states otherwise." don't you get.
"DT is also a self-confirmable role and difficult to pull off as mafia"
DT not as hard to fake when they have one of their own is it?
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Kenpachi was in L but I suppose you meant for the not read bit.
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48 hour day cycle, Day ends at 11pm est Thursday.
huh, Isn't it thursday morning now?
Tunkeg brought up something that bugs me.
I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case.
So what about millers?
I really like the idea behind jackals role.
I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them.
Lets hear something Schworz, until them.
##Vote rgTheSchworz
Also Palmer and Radfield are still alive interesting.
ninja'd+ Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit? Did you not claim to be Two-Face and lie about being masoned with Toadesstern? I do not recall anything like that. On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.
He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)
So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim. On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host).
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@layabout and Jayjay54 any questions while I try to organize my thoughs on this mess and read the phone QT.
On February 10 2012 04:22 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Ok, so you re hired, meaning you can get hit instead of someone else?
Also , FYI , i m not insane, as in role pm insane.
Maybe I am RL insane, though.
What did your check return?
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On February 09 2012 23:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 23:55 Forumite wrote:
So confused, we have two strong reads on 3rd Party, why don´t we take them out now and be done with it? There are Town vigilantes who can shoot scum in the night, but won´t have an effect on Batman or Catwoman. The logical thing would be to lynch Radfield now, and shoot Sheth.
For now:
##Unvote DoctorHelvetica I already explained that town vigis can be blocked, and the mafia can protect sheth.
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Stop Claiming roles already! Particularly when we have a lynch target or two lined up.
Hugo Strange
Since he is so powerful he is able to have someone locked up at night (protecting them from 1 hit).
Is it just straight protection or does it role block as well?
All these players will answer the phones allowing you to talk to them, and them to talk to eachother. You also choose at night someone among these players to kill as you can’t stop yourself from killing.
Jackal shot one of the people in the phone QT.
1 Bill Murray
2 Hiro Protagonist
3 Doctor Helvetica claimed a hit
4 Risk.nuke
5 Opz
6 Kitaman27
7 forumite
8 Radfield claimed a hit (by palmer apparently)
9 Palmar
10 Chaoser
11 Wherebugsgo
12 Tyran
13 evantrees
Anyone else from here get hit? But then mafia are not going to claim are they.
Why does no one else think it makes sense for catwoman to leave two face to potentially die to mafia and go hunt down penguin first?
On February 10 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Man, I perfectly understand why you would lynch sheth today.
I m also up for lynching sheth, mainly because he posts fluff and irrelevant stuff.
QT is full of scum. I do not fear getting lynched, anyways I know what to do Night 2.
If im getting lynched because Clayface does not want to claim so be it.
Medics get off me ASAP. Toad doesn t understand I ll be catfood tonight.
When I flip, please lynch this liar= DocH.
I understand that BM got roleblocked. I strongly trust BM at this point, I believe him to be the most town.
So, 2 kills without any prot.
Scum single-stacked Jackal, because they RB BM.
Rad claimed hit, but I don t believe he s a vet since he claims DT.
So, most likely one of our vigs hit him,else hes a Veteran.
Therefore , I m inclined to think CW didnt shoot.
Therefore she DT ed me.
Therefore I die tonight. Bye, Bye, Bye
I like this thought. They killed jackal I guessed what his role did before he flipped(pmed BC my guess for fun). It is entirely possible mafia did as well.
Watching one of the youtube videos someone posted about Zsasz helped lead me to that conclusion though. Maybe should hunt down who it was, it was not jackal however.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 10 2012 02:04 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well, just woke up.
Been working pretty much all day yesterday and sleeping twice. Sorry I haven't gotten to post much. Seems a lot has went down in the Mason Network. First off Radfields lying or I'm a miller. I can't think of a great reason why he would though. Like, if I die and flip green then town kills him, and I don't think he was under that much pressure.
I'm guessing maybe mafia has a "janitor" roll or something that allows my flip not to be shown? Or a Framer roll where they can frame me as red a turn. Either way, I know I'll flip green. We're wasting a lynch here. So the options as I see them are :
1. Radfield is mafia and you'll kill him after I flip green.
2. There is a mafia "Framer" someone who changes my appearance to DT's.
3. I'm a "Miller".
I'm not mafia. You should find it weird that neither Palmar nor Radfield have talked about these possibilities at all. They are both veterans and should know that these are options. I think mafia are sitting laughing right now because when I flip Miller you'll be confused.
I will say though that there really isn't any way for me to prove it and town will gain the most information I think from lynching me. You'll find out that I'm not actually red and can go after those who have bandwagoned me here. Second day in a row that I'm just getting nearly every vote on me. Take care of who starts these and who blindly follows along. I'll still be spending today looking for scum and trying to help out as I can.
There was some mention of the miller possibility Sheth.
For my amusement.+ Show Spoiler +On February 10 2012 00:17 Forumite wrote:
Seriously? Ally with the batman? Why not he's scary On February 10 2012 00:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Anyone saying that we should lynch anyone except scum is dumb or scum themselves. Forumite = hugo?
You could maybe trick bad new players into thinking it's smart to lynch Catwoman. But that 1:1 batman trade is good. Sorry.
By the way what the fuck is the riddler game Fight Club, shh
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Kurumi I like you for some damned reason.
On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die.
Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch.
Which players do you think are hurting town the most?
Too much spam!
Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda?
chaoser, he was anyways.
Which players do you think are scum?
chaoser
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On February 11 2012 10:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why is BM not spamming the thread?
Palmer is doing the job for him.
I am hoping he flips scum so might as well clean up the vote tally list a bit.
##unvote rgtheschworz
##Vote Liquid'Sheth
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DoctorHelvetica You seem to be forgetting jackal's compulsive kp hitting someone from the QT
these four have claimed taking a hit
1 Bill Murray
3 Doctor Helvetica
8 Radfield (claimed by Palmar)
9 Palmar
other QT members
2 Hiro Protagonist
4 Risk.nuke
5 Opz
6 Kitaman27
7 forumite
10 Chaoser
11 Wherebugsgo
12 Tyran
13 evantrees
and why am I still up I don't know.
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1. you can't possibly be sandro smurfing (god damn it)
Burst out laughing thank you bugs.
Out for hours, 3 new pages not sure If I should be happy or sad.
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I think Chaoser is scum, but that may just be me being bitter.
The two main reasons I voted for Cyber_Cheese on day 1, Believing sheth and this. Was rather up in the air about who to vote for.
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots. Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum: On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player. Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself? On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea. Word
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Oh bugger took too long to post that. Probably not an adequate reason anyways, but that is pretty much all I've got for one.
BM: Similarities in playstyle to L
Palmer is I think closer to BM in L.
But yes he did randomly claim medic so there is definitely some similarity there.
BM has 3 and a half pages of filter day 1, not a whole lot since.
On February 09 2012 15:06 Bill Murray wrote:
I got roleblocked
On February 09 2012 15:28 Bill Murray wrote:
im going to make them regret the next 70 hours
cheers!
off to bed!
I am dissapointed nothing has come of this.
Definitely coming across as scummy to me, but hopefully we have better lynch candidates to start with than a claimed medic.
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Two dead vets strange night.
Ok now I think he might be scum, will have to check the filters though.
On February 12 2012 15:07 RayzorFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 14:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:
DrH was doublestacked. He s freaking clayface he needs 2 shots.
Who vigged WBG?
CW/BM didn t shoot WBG.
Look at what he posts. He sticks to Kurumi and Rad/Me.He defo wanst Joker or any kind of vig/DT. More scum than anythig else. Kurumi s town btw, there s no way these 2 are scum together.
Maybe Rad killed him, I would assume that only if Rad does not post his check or posts that he checked a completely random townie.
WBG, as Ra's, needed either 2 shots or 1 unblockable shot, as such it seems most likely that it was a Batman/Catwoman hit, because I don't think two vigs would have both gone after him...
Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger?
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why would an unblockable shot kill him if he hasn't been hit before?
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We are not lynching the claimed medic on day 3 and we are not mislynching me if I can help it.
Will have to do some more reading.
Also Laughed at that one palmer.
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On February 13 2012 03:53 Tunkeg wrote:I want to lynch Evantrees today. Reason 1: VotesHe was one of the ones who hammered through the CC lynch. He voted him late and for apparantly no good reason. Only BM and WBG were later voting for him than. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352¤tpage=4#73He was also the last person voting for Sheth, and it seems like a vote to save face: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352¤tpage=6#120His reasons for voting have been non-existent, these are his 3 "vote" posts: + Show Spoiler +On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
Proper voting format is
##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?
On February 09 2012 18:52 evantrees wrote:48 hour day cycle, Day ends at 11pm est Thursday. huh, Isn't it thursday morning now?Tunkeg brought up something that bugs me. I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case. So what about millers?I really like the idea behind jackals role. I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them. Lets hear something Schworz, until them. ##Vote rgTheSchworzAlso Palmer and Radfield are still alive interesting. ninja'd + Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit? Did you not claim to be Two-Face and lie about being masoned with Toadesstern? I do not recall anything like that. On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.
He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)
So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim. On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host). On February 11 2012 10:24 evantrees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 10:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why is BM not spamming the thread? Palmer is doing the job for him. I am hoping he flips scum so might as well clean up the vote tally list a bit. ##unvote rgtheschworz
##Vote Liquid'Sheth His filter have no hard stands on anything. Basicly just fluff and one post where he says chaoser is scum, without any reasoning. Nothing that will give him any attention, nothing that will hold him accountable for anything: Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:Kurumi I like you for some damned reason. On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die. Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch. Which players do you think are hurting town the most? Too much spam! Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda? chaoser, he was anyways. Which players do you think are scum? chaoser In this crazy game of spam and mad claims and speculations I find posters like Evantrees the most scummy. Vote ##Evantrees
The vote for sheth was more about saving space than face and I was hoping he flipped scum so why not.
Please at least include the actual terrible reasons for voting cheese.
On February 12 2012 13:12 evantrees wrote:I think Chaoser is scum, but that may just be me being bitter. The two main reasons I voted for Cyber_Cheese on day 1, Believing sheth and this. Was rather up in the air about who to vote for. Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots. Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum: On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player. Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself? On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea. Word
I tried to avoid posting to much nonsense and speculation. Given I like to complain about such things.
I did post this in the phone QT, though honestly surprised gut has gone 1/3 and not 0/3 so far slardar being scum was the other one.
evantrees
02-07-2012
10:58 PM ET (US)
for reference crazy gut says,
Cyber_Cheese is catwoman not batman
and WBG is scum.
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I will claim if I have to, but I would rather not give scum that information unless absolutely necessary.
I would rather try to force mafia/third parties to resolve the radfield/palmer nonsense. while we try to get rid of deadshot/hugo.
On February 14 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 07:01 Jayjay54 wrote:well I have caught up again and honestly don't know what to make out of this situation. I don't feel comfortable lynching a DT who gave us a scum d2 right now, although the lurker fraction around hiro and chaoser made the choice a little harder. Right now, I'd keep Rad alive and hope that he gives another read the next dawn or at least draws a RB: I also reconsidered my Kurumi / Palmar third read and have revisited the though of both Palmar and Rad being third. Toad this is probably your last day  But I guess that's kinda in the calculation right now. Who to lynch now? I don't know how much weight I put into the whole "he voted sheth d1, he's not scum" argumentation. Both of my strongest scum reads nuke and hiro voted him. The other read I had, is chaoser (since rg fakeclaimed once more) voted CC. I'll vote hiro. One of my biggest scumreads due his play being 100% different from his blue play in L. He stepped up out of the lurker cave and pushed against Palmar. Maybe this lynch can provide information on Rad and also hopefully hit a scum. ##vote Hiro ProtagonistSorry I seem confused, but that's how this day has made me feel. I guess scum succeeded in spreading confusion. At least with me. I'll be on for another hour before I go to sleep and hopefully wake up to see a on spot lynch... Hiro is fine How did a vet die from one shot ?
This bugged me as well I keep forgetting to ask this, for instance when I was complaining about nonsense from sorry RayzorFlash.
Could batman/catwoman have killed Ra's al ghul with one shot despite it taking two shots to kill Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze.
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Start discussing him?
Interesting. Hopefully you pick or picked well.
##vote chaoser
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I see no reason to claim at this point, I would think it is too late to decide things.
Also I seem to be terrible at riddles.
Kita you forgot this
Batman
Also due to your past history with both Talia and catwoman you cannot eliminate either of them.
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far from done rereading but I find this interesting.
Cyber_cheese - 12
Toadesstern
drH
slardar
ico
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray
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also who won the award day 1.
On February 06 2012 21:26 Palmar wrote:Why no pms You guys are boring. I propose this plan. Tomorrow I will announce the dumbest/useless/bad thing said in the thread, and we lynch that person as a punishment.
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Might as well finish it.
On February 08 2012 12:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Liquid`sheth - 7
hiroprotagonist
katina
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg
Cyber_cheese - 12
Toadesstern
drH
slardar
ico
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray
Kurumi – 1
Layabout
-_-qualis – 2
rgtheschworz
kurumi
ico – 2
kitaman
adam4167
toadesstern – 2
Kenpachi
Risk.nuke
DrH – 2
Jayjay54
cyber_cheese
Chaoser – 1
Tobberoth
if anyone sees a mistake here please let me know
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Dammit Radfield, this made me smile.....
On February 09 2012 01:52 Radfield wrote:
Toads claim doesn't really make sense from a mafia perspective. Chances are catwoman is going to call bullshit on him tonight anyways and shoot him, which makes it an extremely dumb as mafia. DT is also a self-confirmable role and difficult to pull off as mafia, whereas Vig is extremely easy to pull off as mafia. I can also understand Toads reasoning assuming he actually is unkillable tonight.
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Some more reading to do but for now.
##Vote VisceraEyes
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There is something about the Kurumi lynch I don't like so no you are not getting my vote for it, but you don't seem to need it.
Also Tunkeg you I'm guessing missed rayzorflash when counting people left, we have 10 townies left.
On February 17 2012 12:07 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 11:56 hiro protagonist wrote:On February 17 2012 11:45 Forumite wrote:
We don´t waste killpower by lynching CW, rather we save our ability to kill during the night. scum still have a medic... So? Even if their medic protects the right one in 50% of the cases, it´s still half a nightkill more than we´d have without me. Batman will disappear eventually, then it´s one lynch during the day, and 2 dead Townies each night. A night without any Town powerroles scares me. No protects, no more info for the new day, not even the chance of getting back at them during the night, while they kill whoever they want. This setup is built around scum killing, not only lynching, we need to be able to kill.
This setup is about both sides killing a ton, we started with two compulsive vigs(one with limited targets the other being hunted) to go along with the lynchs plus a few more vigs it seems. Along with third parties who may or may not run rampant.
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On February 17 2012 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at all the scum pouring in to switch to the pro-town lynch. It's like MAGIC.
Except the lynch is pro scum as well, one less suspected scum getting lynched.
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Darn was close to getting to bed then started reading this again. Going to go over the day 1 and 3 vote lists and the riddler nonsense again.
So should be here for a bit.
Interesting idea concerning rgTheSchworz.
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DAY 1 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +Liquid`sheth - 7
hiroprotagonist
katina
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg
Cyber_cheese - 12
Toadesstern
drH
slardar
ico/rayzorflash
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray
Kurumi – 1
Layabout
-_-quails – 2
rgtheschworz
kurumi
ico – 2
kitaman
adam4167
toadesstern – 2
Kenpachi
Risk.nuke
DrH – 2
Jayjay54
cyber_cheese
Chaoser – 1
Tobberoth
didn't vote
jaybrundage and someone else.
Day 3 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +
Radfield - 9
Forumite
tunkeg
Toadesstern
-_-quails
palmar
adam4167
katina
kurumi
jaybrundage
Palmar - 1
hiro protagonist
Forumite - 1
rgtheschworz
chaoser - 6
Risk.nuke
radfield
ico/rayzorflash
kitaman
evantrees
Visceraeyes
hiro protagonist - 1
jayjay54
ico/rayzorflash - 3
Layabout
Chaoser
tyrran - 1
billmurray
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I'm an idiot................. unsure what I should do about that as of yet.(posted in votethread by mistake)
Have to start somewhere(also look a few posts up), to an extent solidifies my opinion on rayzorflash being scum, kind of doubting only two scum voted for cheese but it is possible I suppose.
We have to lynch/shoot 3 scum there is no great need to start with those who just might die to riddler from beyond the grave. That said I kind of doubt rayzorflash will end up dieing to riddler tonight.
more on the riddlers game.
kitaman27 choose the second option, it is ending tonight.
Second option. Choose 8 people. Over the course of 4 game days these players are given riddles (you provide each). On the first three nights the first person to correctly answer the riddle is safe and removed from the riddle game. On the last night the first two people to correctly submit the answer are safe and the remaining three are killed.
people still in the game(apprently) prior to kitaman27 's death. (another list sorry jayjay)
jaybrundage
rayzorflash
evantrees I escaped day 4
Palmar gone
chaoser dead
So today jaybrundage and rayzorflash both have a chance to get out of it.
so both, one or none of them will die to it tonight.
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Was working off the posted riddler role pm plus stuff kita has posted. I did ask if I could post that I had escaped.
The game goes on even though the riddler is dead.
Will it kill anyone I'm doubtful, but should we waste a chance at kp hitting suspected scum by lynching them beforehand is my problem. We have alot of day left so let's try and find the other two.
until then sure ##vote RayzorFlash
Right that's what I should have done, gone over the voting unvoting.
On February 18 2012 20:28 Forumite wrote:Votes Day 3, including chagned votes + Show Spoiler +- rgTheSchworz - 0
Jayjay54
Bill Murray
Forumite
Radfield
- Bill Murray - 0
Kurumi
-_-Quails
- Evantrees - 0
Radfield
Tunkeg
Kurumi
Toadesstern
Palmar
Chaoser
Adam4167
layabout
- Risk.nuke - 0
Jayjay54
- Tyrran - 1
layabout
Bill Murray
- Tunkeg - 0
Katina
- hiro protagonist - 1
jaybrundage
Jayjay54
- Radfield - 9
Forumite
Tunkeg
Palmar
Toadesstern
Kurumi
jaybrundage
-_-Quails
RayzorFlash
Katina
Adam4167
Adam4167
jaybrundage
- Palmar - 1
layabout
Radfield
Toadesstern
Jayjay54
VisceraEyes
RayzorFlash
hiro protagonist
- Forumite - 1
risk.nuke
rgTheSchworz
- rayzorflash - 2
kitaman27
risk.nuke
layabout
chaoser
VisceraEyes
Adam4167
- Chaoser - 6
Kitaman27
risk.nuke
Radfield
RayzorFlash
VisceraEyes
Evantrees Rayzorflash and Evantrees looks Scum Katina looks Town. I´ll back off from rg for now, but from this I think the lynch should be between either RayzorFlash or Evantrees for their last desperate defence of Radfield.
Not a good sign when my first thought about that is wait what? Time to go to sleep.
On February 14 2012 08:47 evantrees wrote:I will claim if I have to, but I would rather not give scum that information unless absolutely necessary. I would rather try to force mafia/third parties to resolve the radfield/palmer nonsense. while we try to get rid of deadshot/hugo.Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote:On February 14 2012 07:01 Jayjay54 wrote:well I have caught up again and honestly don't know what to make out of this situation. I don't feel comfortable lynching a DT who gave us a scum d2 right now, although the lurker fraction around hiro and chaoser made the choice a little harder. Right now, I'd keep Rad alive and hope that he gives another read the next dawn or at least draws a RB: I also reconsidered my Kurumi / Palmar third read and have revisited the though of both Palmar and Rad being third. Toad this is probably your last day But I guess that's kinda in the calculation right now. Who to lynch now? I don't know how much weight I put into the whole "he voted sheth d1, he's not scum" argumentation. Both of my strongest scum reads nuke and hiro voted him. The other read I had, is chaoser (since rg fakeclaimed once more) voted CC. I'll vote hiro. One of my biggest scumreads due his play being 100% different from his blue play in L. He stepped up out of the lurker cave and pushed against Palmar. Maybe this lynch can provide information on Rad and also hopefully hit a scum. ##vote Hiro ProtagonistSorry I seem confused, but that's how this day has made me feel. I guess scum succeeded in spreading confusion. At least with me. I'll be on for another hour before I go to sleep and hopefully wake up to see a on spot lynch... Hiro is fine How did a vet die from one shot ? This bugged me as well I keep forgetting to ask this, for instance when I was complaining about nonsense from sorry RayzorFlash. Could batman/catwoman have killed Ra's al ghul with one shot despite it taking two shots to kill Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze.
That and going along with kita because he wanted to shoot people is a last desperate defence of Radfield?
True I didn't see too much harm in waiting a day to see if scum would shoot radfield.
Lynching radfield was best case lynch a roleblocker worst case lynch a DT.
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More than half the day is done where are all our other townies.
@RayzorFlash
Thinking chaoser is scum, wanting to give a potential dt another day and having no problem with us getting more kp.
The middle part makes my reason pointless and weak?
Wrong list, because you(well ico) were voting for cheese and I know I'm not scum, but yes I am on that list as well.
As for the distancing nonsense hmm have to take a look at Radfields filter again..
On February 18 2012 22:18 Forumite wrote:
Evantrees, without previously (having?) voted you went for Chaoser very late in the day, helping to build the alternative bandwagon. It was clear for a long time that it would be between Chaoser and Radfield, and that it wouldn´t take many votes to shift the lynch to Chaoser instead. It was at that time that Kitaman told everyone to vote Chaoser, and you, RayzorFlash and 2 confirmed scum immediately joined the alternative bandwagon in order to save Radfield. Furthermore you and RayzorFlash were secondary candidates that day, RayzorFlash due to Kitaman pointing him out, and you earlier when Radfield built a weak case on you, yet no other scum jumped on it, making it look like a distancing rather than a serious attempt to get you lynched. We know that the bandwagon on you early Day 4 was started by Radfield, and no other scum were on it. That doesn´t speak in your favor either.
Thinking about it, RayzorFlash looks way better than Evantrees. RayzorFlash was voted on due to Kitaman, and changed to Chaoser after Kitaman asked him, while Evantrees got attention when a confirmed scum tried to distance himself from him with a weak case based on "His filter says nothing".
##unvote RayzorFlash
##vote Evantrees
I was yes undecided on the radfield stuff and I did think chaoser was scum mostly for a stupid reason it seems.
On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:Kurumi I like you for some damned reason. Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die. Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch. Which players do you think are hurting town the most? Too much spam! Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda? chaoser, he was anyways. Which players do you think are scum? chaoser
On February 12 2012 13:12 evantrees wrote:I think Chaoser is scum, but that may just be me being bitter. The two main reasons I voted for Cyber_Cheese on day 1, Believing sheth and this. Was rather up in the air about who to vote for. Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots. Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum: On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player. Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself? On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea. Word
On February 19 2012 04:45 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 19:40 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 18 2012 19:25 evantrees wrote:DAY 1 Lynch Vote list + Show Spoiler +Liquid`sheth - 7
hiroprotagonist
katina
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg
Cyber_cheese - 12
Toadesstern
drH
slardar
ico/rayzorflash
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray
Kurumi – 1
Layabout
-_-quails – 2
rgtheschworz
kurumi
ico – 2
kitaman
adam4167
toadesstern – 2
Kenpachi
Risk.nuke
DrH – 2
Jayjay54
cyber_cheese
Chaoser – 1
Tobberoth
didn't vote
jaybrundage and someone else. Day 3 Lynch Vote list + Show Spoiler +
Radfield - 9
Forumite
tunkeg
Toadesstern
-_-quails
palmar
adam4167
katina
kurumi
jaybrundage
Palmar - 1
hiro protagonist
Forumite - 1
rgtheschworz
chaoser - 6
Risk.nuke
radfield
ico/rayzorflash
kitaman
evantrees
Visceraeyes
hiro protagonist - 1
jayjay54
ico/rayzorflash - 3
Layabout
Chaoser
tyrran - 1
billmurray
posting list evantrees? now? really? He's been posting lists all game, that's half the reason I thought he was suspicious the other day. The other half is because he posts gems like this: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 19:54 evantrees wrote:
I'm an idiot................. unsure what I should do about that as of yet.(posted in votethread by mistake)
Have to start somewhere(also look a few posts up), to an extent solidifies my opinion on rayzorflash being scum, kind of doubting only two scum voted for cheese but it is possible I suppose.
We have to lynch/shoot 3 scum there is no great need to start with those who just might die to riddler from beyond the grave. That said I kind of doubt rayzorflash will end up dieing to riddler tonight.
What opinion that rayzorflash is scum? You haven't given any opinion about him this game (or really anyone for that matter). This is the first time you've said anything concrete about him. The lack of consistency in your posting is incredibly noticeable. I don't mind people posting lists but you are sure posting a lot of them. ##Vote: evantreesI'm also curious why you think he might survive the Riddler game. It seems silly to me to lynch him when he might end up dying anyway (I think he's suspicious so I want him dead too). It does not look like there is a way to survive the Riddler game, and the mafia medic is dead anyways.
I agree it is somewhat silly but pointing that out makes forumite think I'm scummy apparently.
As for the lists I have to start somewhere, and as usual was not too sure how to contribute.
Riddlers role pm.
With an obsessive-compulsive need for attention, Edward Nigma is determined to be the cleverest of Gotham City’s criminals, plotting elaborate trails of clues and riddles around his crimes. Batman has proved to be a worthy opponent and after thwarting the riddlers efforts on arkham island, he is back to prove himself the most intelligent. Beginning day 1 you must give the host 1 of 2 of the following options.
Give the names of 6 people. Over the course of 3 game days, these players are given riddles (you provide each).
On the first two nights the first person to correctly answer the riddle is safe from death and removed from the riddle game. On the last night the first two people to correctly answer the riddle are safe from the riddle game as well. The final two are killed.
Second option. Choose 8 people. Over the course of 4 game days these players are given riddles (you provide each). On the first three nights the first person to correctly answer the riddle is safe and removed from the riddle game. On the last night the first two people to correctly submit the answer are safe and the remaining three are killed.
Roleblocks do not stop your power, nor does you being eliminated. The game must go on.
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I suppose I should claim now before I go to bed then?
On February 19 2012 11:03 Adam4167 wrote:evantreesI spent 45 minutes writing a case about how I believe Jackal shot at evantrees N1 and Hugo intercepted the shot, and while I still believe that to be the case, it came down to largely speculation without concrete proof. Instead, lets just look in evantrees filter. One thing that stood out to me straight away is this quote Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:20 evantrees wrote: and why am I still up I don't know. which comes from this post, link. This is a guilty mind. You expected to die, yet you didn't, and you're surprised. This, in addition to what Katina, Forumite and RayzorFlash have pointed out is enough to seal the deal for me.
and why am I still up I don't know.
It was 6 something am. like when I am posting this and have still not gone to sleep.
This is a guilty mind. You expected to die, yet you didn't, and you're surprised.
where did this come from exactly, misunderstanding what I was refering to there?
But yes I was kind of expecting to be shot by jackal given this post and my guess at how his role worked thanks to a video DocH posted. Almost wish he had, would have saved me from a bunch of nonsense.
On February 08 2012 03:10 Jackal58 wrote:A wild Chaoser appears!!!!!!! Being stalked by a wild Tobberoth!!!!!! People I have played with that need to post more: risk.nuke ~OpZ~ Your inactivity makes me nervous. People I don't know or don't know well that haven't posted jack shit: Slardar Tobberoth jaybrundage Tyrran ico evantreesKatina Adam4167 evantrees is scum. That's a scum question.
However jackal did post this as well, which may explain why he shot someone else.
On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion. yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling. Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is. Remember No guts. No gory.
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For those complaining about my filter is it any worse or better than my previous two games, I am curious.
This is my third game.
First game Election Mafia as an Announcer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429
second game TL Mafia L as a VT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=78429
Adam is coming across a bit scummy to me. But in general I am too damned unsure on the 3 scum in the 7.
But for now lets say my list is.
rgtheschworz
RayzorFlash
Adam4167
On February 18 2012 18:18 Adam4167 wrote:
Do you think BM was trolling when he announced he took a hit on N1? Did we ever solve that?
This feels too much like scum asking if there is another medic out there to me.
Out of curiousity Adam4167 why do you think this late you will be shot by scum over -_-quails the confirmed townie?
Reading radfields filter I was getting a little less suspicious of rayzorflash then this pops up.
On February 14 2012 06:16 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 06:00 Tunkeg wrote:On February 14 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.
Does this mean that:
a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would jumped all over this if they were Radfield were town and they were scum. EBWOP: Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch. Does this mean that: a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi? b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would have jumped all over this if they were scum and Radfield were town. Smart scum are smart. Lynching me is dumb. End of story. Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 06:03 kitaman27 wrote:On February 14 2012 05:58 Radfield wrote:Actually, this is why I thought that: Kitaman Wrote: The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.
The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol
Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well. What happened Kita, got cold feet? From what I can see there you should be dead set on lynching me, yet now you are pushing to keep me alive. Care to explain? I just don't buy that your Calendar Man (I'm still not sure that he is even a real batman villian :p). Just because I think you're likely black, doesn't mean we can't coexist as long as you're benefiting town as well. I'm looking for red  What do you think about my case on Rayzor? I think it's pretty sound, and I think there is a decent chance ico/Rayzor will flip scum. When Ico voted for CC, Sheth was actually leading 5-4, which ties him directly to Sheth. Ico/Rayzor is number six on the list of 5 that I mentioned earlier: Chaoser, Tyran, opz, WBG, evantrees. I left him off because he voted quite a bit earlier in the day, but in retrospect I shouldn't have. I'm doing dinner and then going curling. I expect to no longer be leading the lynch when I get back.
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I'll ask this a touch more directly
I suppose I should claim now before I go to bed then?
Should I claim before I go to sleep or when I wakeup?
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I am Bane the vet and I have done a terrible job with it, I am sorry for that.
Still terrible at trying to get shot by scum,and contributing in general.
Also sorry I don't have anything extra role related to contribute.
forumite Penguin Risk DTed +other stuff
-_-qualis Risk DTed
Evantrees
So who are we lynching today
RayzorFlash
jaybrundage
Jayjay54
rgtheschworz
Katina
Adam4167
Hiro Protagonist
These two might still die to the riddler, not sure if that should affect our decision.
rayzorflash
jaybrundage
Goodnight. er morning whatever going to sleep.
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On February 20 2012 00:48 Forumite wrote:
Veteran and useless detectives are popular scumclaims, just like Radfield claimed useless detective, Evantrees claims useless powerrole. I think we can test this however, we simply lynch someone else, then I shoot Evantrees tonight. If he dies then he´s scum or liar, if he survives then he must be Town, because scum don´t have any roleblocks or Medics left. Sure, he loses the point of being a veteran when he takes a bullet, but he won´t attract bullets anyway, so I might as well confirm a Townie instead of shooting into the dark. If I shoot Bane then at worst he dies anyway to scum.
Thoughts?
Was considering proposing this in the same post as claiming specifically saying.
If you still don't believe I am town come the night forumite can shoot me, and we can get rid of the suspiscion without actually losing a townie. Not as good as actually shooting scum however. An added bonus town is less likely to be stuck with me till the end.
On February 20 2012 05:07 jaybrundage wrote:
Im Bane.
I got hit last night.
Ballsy move from scum. But its a bullshit claim.
We should lynch him today.
##Vote: Evantrees
But this pretty much seals the deal for me.
Really jaybrundage.
Are you that certain that the riddler is going to kill you?
That's my best guess as to why the counterclaim which bugs me in itself.
##vote jaybrundage
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On February 20 2012 06:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
if solomon killed VE and palmar shot JB instead of VE....then it would work out...
but palmar said a billion times how he would shoot VE
Palmer also seems to generally dislike VE a bit.
I find this funny so felt the need to post it sorry. Not certain how much if at all his opinion has changed since then.
From Election Mafia.
On December 14 2011 23:48 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes For the love of god. If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play.
On December 15 2011 02:52 Arctocod wrote:
VE that was obviously palmar and I apologize on his behalf
/syllogism
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Hurray for more humor, and me not having to spell that out myself.
On February 20 2012 08:57 Adam4167 wrote:
Your reaction is all wrong... Id be screaming from the rooftops how dirty evantrees is
You've just found a scum, 100%, hes claimed YOUR role and you know hes lying.
Instead you are focusing on why your alibi is solid.
On that note I'll try and put together a case on him, I definitely need the practice.
On February 20 2012 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:
I dont get. What have i done that was so scummy. I tried to push my best scum reads. I have tried to look for scum.
Do you guys really assume that i would make up a hit for no reason? I dont get it.
Perhaps hugo saved you from a hit and you are trying to get the vig on your side, by saying thats why you survived.
Whatever WIFOM nonsense.
At the very least you are lieing about being Bane right now.
Lieing to town this late seems like good reason to lynch you to me.
and after posting this....
On February 14 2012 00:05 jaybrundage wrote:
SO i suggest we enforce a Lynch All Liars Policy.
And then proceed to LYNCH THE FUCKEN HELL OUT OF PALMAR!
Comon Layabout isn't this the best plan ever :D
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On February 20 2012 20:49 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 20:20 Adam4167 wrote:
But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one. I´d prefer if you didn´t rely so heavily on me. I was in the Team Fortress game where there were 5 Town and one Scum in the end, and I lead town through 2 mislynches and lost us the game. Things like that doesn´t make me very confident being Town leader. Also I´m dead tomorrow, barring Medic assistance, so this is probably my last night in the game. Right now I´m choosing between killing Hiro or shooting Evantrees to confirm him as Town. I´m suspecting that Jaybrundage tried to get one of him and Evantrees confirmed Town, in response to everyone wanting to lynch Evantrees despite his Veteran-claim. The thing is, I´m probably wasting a kill, but if it was a trick, which I think it was, then this shot is the only way that we´re going to know without killing him. I think I´d rather confirm Evantrees and make sure that it wasn´t a crazy setup, and leave you to lynch Hiro tomorrow. There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans. Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere? Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone?
There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans.
Part of why I think rgtheschworz is scum.
Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone?
It's not shooting scum.
You could shoot rgtheschworz to do something similar but I think he would actually flip scum.
Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere?
No unless you want to count this, saw very little reason outing a vet would help town at that point.
On February 14 2012 08:47 evantrees wrote:I will claim if I have to, but I would rather not give scum that information unless absolutely necessary.I would rather try to force mafia/third parties to resolve the radfield/palmer nonsense. while we try to get rid of deadshot/hugo. Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote:On February 14 2012 07:01 Jayjay54 wrote:well I have caught up again and honestly don't know what to make out of this situation. I don't feel comfortable lynching a DT who gave us a scum d2 right now, although the lurker fraction around hiro and chaoser made the choice a little harder. Right now, I'd keep Rad alive and hope that he gives another read the next dawn or at least draws a RB: I also reconsidered my Kurumi / Palmar third read and have revisited the though of both Palmar and Rad being third. Toad this is probably your last day But I guess that's kinda in the calculation right now. Who to lynch now? I don't know how much weight I put into the whole "he voted sheth d1, he's not scum" argumentation. Both of my strongest scum reads nuke and hiro voted him. The other read I had, is chaoser (since rg fakeclaimed once more) voted CC. I'll vote hiro. One of my biggest scumreads due his play being 100% different from his blue play in L. He stepped up out of the lurker cave and pushed against Palmar. Maybe this lynch can provide information on Rad and also hopefully hit a scum. ##vote Hiro ProtagonistSorry I seem confused, but that's how this day has made me feel. I guess scum succeeded in spreading confusion. At least with me. I'll be on for another hour before I go to sleep and hopefully wake up to see a on spot lynch... Hiro is fine How did a vet die from one shot ? This bugged me as well I keep forgetting to ask this, for instance when I was complaining about nonsense from sorry RayzorFlash. Could batman/catwoman have killed Ra's al ghul with one shot despite it taking two shots to kill Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze.
Maybe a touch too focused on vets here.
On February 12 2012 15:24 evantrees wrote:Two dead vets strange night. Ok now I think he might be scum, will have to check the filters though. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:07 RayzorFlash wrote:On February 12 2012 14:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:
DrH was doublestacked. He s freaking clayface he needs 2 shots.
Who vigged WBG?
CW/BM didn t shoot WBG.
Look at what he posts. He sticks to Kurumi and Rad/Me.He defo wanst Joker or any kind of vig/DT. More scum than anythig else. Kurumi s town btw, there s no way these 2 are scum together.
Maybe Rad killed him, I would assume that only if Rad does not post his check or posts that he checked a completely random townie.
WBG, as Ra's, needed either 2 shots or 1 unblockable shot, as such it seems most likely that it was a Batman/Catwoman hit, because I don't think two vigs would have both gone after him... Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger?
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I agree me and rgtheschworz are not confirmed townies at this point. Sadly in my case.
Not confirmed by a dead dt or a bullet.
On February 20 2012 20:11 Jayjay54 wrote:
that's actually a tough question. And depends a lot on the stuff happening tonight.
If rayzor is still alive, I will start by looking into him. Because he'd be the most scummy alive. If not, we have a good chance to already win the game right now.
I disagreed with an evantrees lynch pretty long, but there flips happened, the more he rose. Now the claim. Still not sure what I think about that. Somehow I am suspicious.
katina flies under the radar all game long. Still most of her decisions were town favored. Seems towny. But then again, the scum team was a huge bus company this game...
Another thought I have is that deadpool is still out there. I expect hiro to flip deadpool. If that's not the case, because I don't believe the important vig role went to some random lurker. You might actually be a good candidate for that...Would you consider evantrees an experienced player?
If hiro flips scum which I am doubting at the moment. I don't see him flipping deadshot after this post.
On February 17 2012 19:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should not be shooting me tonight. You should be shooting hiro protagonist or JayBrundage tonight.
saving the godfather by sacrificing two scum maybe, a kp as well I really don't see it. It's a good part of why they want to keep the godfather around.
JayBrundage also had that riddler death sentence on his head as a reason for scum to be bussing him a bit.
Don't know about anyone else but I don't consider myself an experienced player.
I though you might have been a vet in L but that was your first game wasn't it?
This is my third game.
First game Election Mafia as an Announcer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429
second game TL Mafia L as a VT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=78429
before joining Election I had read through mini mafia x and the first PYP.
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No I think rgTheSchworz is scum which is why I brought him up.
Also this, he supposedly can still take an extra hit.
On February 17 2012 00:24 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No, I still have my second Life.
If he wastes it by shooting, it both leaves Hugo and Deadshot live a night longer, Extra KP for scum, and it wastes my life for nothing.
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Defense not really I'm fine with you shotting me but shooting scum is probably a better option, if we have a good target.
sorry not the best quote to have given you it seems.
On February 17 2012 01:14 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I was medic protected. I still have my second life.
first mention of medic protection
On February 09 2012 15:53 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And I was protected by a generous medic.
On February 09 2012 15:53 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Because I took a hit
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hmm there is another possibility.
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Not sure how I should feel about katina in my place on that list.
and there being a spot missing.
Solomon Grundy role description.
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Over a century ago, murderer Cyrus Gold sought to escape justice by hiding in the Slaughter Swamp, where he met a fate worse than death. Mysterious forces doomed the now immortal Grundy to and endless cycle of death and rebirth. Robbed of his memories he has adopted the name of a nursery rhyme.
“Solomon Grundy, Born on a Monday, Christened on Tuesday, Married on Wednesday, Took ill on Thursday, Grew worse on Friday, Died on Saturday, Buried on Sunday. This is the end of Solomon Grundy”
You are the bodyguard of penguin and protect him should he be hit from an attack. You are also extremely strong. You have the option of two powers. Bulletproof for a night or revenge killer(you kill the first person who attacks you in a night)
May be that rgTheSchworz has something like that but faster, and without the fun counter attacking option.
On February 13 2012 03:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Yes mods don t inform you that medic did protect you, only that you took a hit.
Thats how laya and me deduced that we ve been medic protected.
On February 13 2012 03:39 rgTheSchworz wrote:Well, thing is, normally on TL medic protection are announced, aren´t they? The fact that he said Show nested quote +i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.
what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly) shows that he did get hit. I searched the thread for similar information that you don t get the announcement that you ve been protected by a medic.Nada If Bugs was killed in one night, which is so if none of our Vigis claim, then laya´s statement must be true? Or BM and Laya are scum together and BM is Hugo. Thing about the PM s coming in late seems weird. Also why BM would protect laya? Who then protected me? the layabout quote he is quoting.
On February 13 2012 01:42 layabout wrote:
the information i have:
i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.
what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly)
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Current reads and sick of trying to looking at filters.
confirmed town
forumite
quails
evantrees
leaning town
hiro protag - going to be a bit mad at him whatever he flips...
Jayjay
unsure
rayzorflash dead tonight hoping scum
katina
scum
rgsworchs
adam4617
and because I feel the need to say it I am not going to believe any medic protection claims by anyone but forumite tomorrow.
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Yup terrible at said mission, contributing period early hard enough for me, jackal shooting me would have been helpful.
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Elimination + a damned feeling mostly so we shall see what happens today.
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Already did that pretty much. spent all but an hour or so of the time from 4 am - 7 pm in bed, asleep mostly I think. Being sick oh what fun.
On February 21 2012 13:25 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Shooting me was the worst thing ever.
I killed Forumite because of my ability.
We are 4vs2 with evan and me confirmed.
On February 21 2012 13:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I am assuming evan is town because he claimed Bane and got CC ed.
I think it would make no sense as scum.
JayJay is pretty much scum this game.
Sry,we are actually 3v2.
Doesnt change much. We have to call the team now.
and scum shot hiro because?
its not like forumite said he was going to shoot him or anything.....
##vote rgTheSchworz
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On February 21 2012 14:30 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 13:00 evantrees wrote:
Current reads and sick of trying to looking at filters.
confirmed town
forumite
quails
evantrees
leaning town
hiro protag - going to be a bit mad at him whatever he flips...
Jayjay
unsure
rayzorflash dead tonight hoping scum
katina
scum
rgsworchs
adam4617
and because I feel the need to say it I am not going to believe any medic protection claims by anyone but forumite tomorrow. OK. NAP, not buying it. How in the christ could you have a town read on Hiro after his play this game? I think you and rG are both scum. I can only hope that JayJay and Katina can forgive me for trying to get them vigged. These are our two scum guys.
On hiro, Can't say I remember my exactly thought process.
How did people have a scum read on him? Being rather useless is hardly unique to him.
I still don't get why people thought scum would defend someone they know is dieing that day or night.
On February 17 2012 19:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should not be shooting me tonight. You should be shooting hiro protagonist or JayBrundage tonight.
A good point in his favour to me pretty much guaranteed he wasn't deadshot given the other option is a doomed scum.
VE had been pushing his lynch for a while as well,so seemed likely he was town.
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I'm pretty sure not all of the scum have been pushing each other but it does make some sense when they actually had
less kp than town to start, but it's harder for them to lose it.
Jaybrundage who was scum stuck in the riddlers game. Which is I believe why he decided to counter claim me.
At the very worst he gets lynched and we can't use it to find his friends instead of dieing that night. Also a little more suspiscion on me oh joy.... but then he also had a chance to get a vet lynched and maybe take forumites bullet that night as well.
rgTheSchworz almost started to believe you might be town when a 3rd compulsive vig popped up for us, making 4 vets seem a bit more likely to me but why the hell would you not catch up fully on the thread before posting that?
It was all of a couple more pages.
It does make very little sense as town or mafia, as town why the hell are you lying to us now. As mafia why not just try to get another townie lynched today and win instead of basically putting yourself up for lynch.
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Go through some filters I'm sure he's not the only one, what did our dear confirmed townie do to help for instance?
Atleast we've only lost one townie to being modkilled I suppose.
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gg
congratulations on the 8th member scum.
Sorry was say that or actually start feeling bitter about it.
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Just don't lie without getting caught up on the thread at least... that late.
Oh boy was I horrible, was starting to come around to adam maybe being town but much too slowly wouldn't have wanted to lynch him that day but then who....
"you didn't mess up, your teammates did "
indeed I did
the part you are interested in
You will survive 1 hit from anyone with ease. If you live long enough after a first attack you will recuperate and be able to take another hit. It will take 2 days to heal however after an attack.
Wish jackal had shot me night 1 instead of going for the guts option...
Still have trouble trying to be useful early
I agree Jb's counter claim was a great idea, at the very least waste a lynch and only gets better from there. Mentioning the hit probably not.
I found it amusing my role name was in a riddle kita sent
I liked Zsasz ability., riddlers didn't seem so good for killing scum however. But death sentences can be amusing I suppose.
town started with more kp than scum which was interesting,
which adds another reason for the mass bussing, not that you guys knew that.
and for fun
On February 11 2012 21:04 Kurumi wrote:
Don't You see that? We're bunch of lunatics, maniacs trying to beat sane gaurds..
Calling them sane is pushing it, read who our guards are again.
something I never got around to posting too lazy to turn on the laptop to get the exact words now.
On February 21 2012 20:33 Adam4167 wrote:
Nothing I say will be able to convince you that I am not scum after the last 48 hours.
I was too gullible, assumed rG was town and that Hiro would flip scum.
My thought process was that the last scum was hiding among either yourself or Katina, and that 'tomorrow' (this day) would involve random votes flinging everywhere and result in a mislynch.
I have been a complete fool this game. All I can offer you right now is that rG is undoubtedly scum, since he claimed a hit.
I truly do apologize to the entire town for this one.
indeed and this was posted about that long ago...
On February 19 2012 21:11 evantrees wrote:For those complaining about my filter is it any worse or better than my previous two games, I am curious. This is my third game. First game Election Mafia as an Announcerhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429second game TL Mafia L as a VThttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=78429Adam is coming across a bit scummy to me. But in general I am too damned unsure on the 3 scum in the 7. But for now lets say my list is. rgtheschworz
RayzorFlash
Adam4167Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 18:18 Adam4167 wrote:
Do you think BM was trolling when he announced he took a hit on N1? Did we ever solve that?
This feels too much like scum asking if there is another medic out there to me. Out of curiousity Adam4167 why do you think this late you will be shot by scum over -_-quails the confirmed townie? Reading radfields filter I was getting a little less suspicious of rayzorflash then this pops up. Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 06:16 Radfield wrote:On February 14 2012 06:00 Tunkeg wrote:On February 14 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.
Does this mean that:
a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would jumped all over this if they were Radfield were town and they were scum. EBWOP: Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch. Does this mean that: a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi? b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would have jumped all over this if they were scum and Radfield were town. Smart scum are smart. Lynching me is dumb. End of story. On February 14 2012 06:03 kitaman27 wrote:On February 14 2012 05:58 Radfield wrote:Actually, this is why I thought that: Kitaman Wrote: The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.
The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol
Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well. What happened Kita, got cold feet? From what I can see there you should be dead set on lynching me, yet now you are pushing to keep me alive. Care to explain? I just don't buy that your Calendar Man (I'm still not sure that he is even a real batman villian :p). Just because I think you're likely black, doesn't mean we can't coexist as long as you're benefiting town as well. I'm looking for red What do you think about my case on Rayzor? I think it's pretty sound, and I think there is a decent chance ico/Rayzor will flip scum. When Ico voted for CC, Sheth was actually leading 5-4, which ties him directly to Sheth. Ico/Rayzor is number six on the list of 5 that I mentioned earlier: Chaoser, Tyran, opz, WBG, evantrees. I left him off because he voted quite a bit earlier in the day, but in retrospect I shouldn't have. I'm doing dinner and then going curling. I expect to no longer be leading the lynch when I get back.
which is a point in his favour for being town isn't it. Wouldn't mind an answer to the filter question though.
Also hurray for only one modkill.
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sorry was referring to this, forgot to bold it.
On February 21 2012 20:33 Adam4167 wrote:
Nothing I say will be able to convince you that I am not scum after the last 48 hours.
On February 19 2012 21:11 evantrees wrote:
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Also, BC answered possible answers with hints. You could ask questions about the riddle and he gave information.
what? I got incorrect back eventually...
and correct back on the last riddle I got, had basically seen it before also amusing choice
Zsasz is a comp vig with limited targets isn't he?
Also I found radfields little bits of subversion rather amusing
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yes please don't randomly lie to town that late....
best guess to the second riddle was hydrogen and that came the day after.
Some stuff from the scum qt I found amusing
really liked this guess Jaybrundage
The Cookie that Crumbles Because Flesh Actually Doesn't Hold Together Well
loved this one, maybe not the best idea but hilarious
You don't have to be reasonable in your insistence at all - you're scum. In the final hours you can be all "All fucking right guys you caught me, as a reward I'll give you CW in Kurumi since he was so reluctant to take the gift so lovingly wrapped for him last night - and I'll give Bats a gift of Joker in Toades, or town a gift of Batman in Palmar...I'll let you guys fight over who gets to unwrap their gifts first!' or something to that effect. They'll either believe you or they won't, and it will throw the thread into disarray either way. You don't have to explain this information at all - you only have to say it. When you flip scum, the shit will hit the fan.
interesting I came somewhat close to being dted
wherebugsgo
"holy fuck kita is scary"
VisceraEyes
Bugs it gets better - I tried to derail the lynch, YET LIVED THROUGH THE NIGHT! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
On February 24 2012 04:06 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 04:03 RayzorFlash wrote:
Random Observation: Both the games I've played in, I've been vanilla town and come off as being scummy... Need to figure out why that is and how to stop it =_= Ico gave you a nice scummy head start in this game which I'm sure didn't help 
semi fake one, Radfield!!!
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