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On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote: Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all. Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton. For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi. Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will. I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. That´s not random voting, you are obviously voting for someone you think did something odd. This is a normal vote, except that at the same time you are not putting any pressure behind it. If you are doing a pressure vote, then pressure, don´t just immediately remove any pressure there might have been there. I´m agreeing with Cyber_Cheese on this one, rgTheSchworz is acting weird. ##Vote: rgTheSchworz Overall, that´s it for now, until more people report in. There´s a few things I find odd though, VisceraEyes with his Deadeye question for example, does he really think there´s a scum-vigi that can shoot roles? | ||
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On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote: ##vote rgTheSchworz Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth. | ||
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On February 06 2012 22:36 Tunkeg wrote: Kenpachi and rgTS I think I said my view on in my opening post: But I don't really see why people are voting for either one of them as of now. Sure I don't agree on rgTS vote on kenpachi and his reasoning behind it (RnG and stuff), but to go from there to him beeing scum is a bit far fetched. VE haven't posted more then one post thus far and I have no opinion on him what so ever. Got it, thanks. On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote: Did you read the rest of that post? For your benefit: Explicit reasons: Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do. Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious. Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia My bad, missed that line in your post. Do you think rgTheSchworz scumslipped? That line could mean several things. It could mean that he was defending against anyone thinking Kenpachi is blue and should therefore be left alone, by saying that Kenpachi couldn´t be blue because of how he acted, and must therefore Town or Scum, in which case Scum knows his role. Weird line of thought, but not necessarily a scumslip. | ||
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On February 07 2012 21:54 Palmar wrote: We should totally be discussing lynching Hiro, VE or Sheth. At the moment, I'm leaning towards lynching sheth. I see no reason to believe he's town this game. He's posting speculations and questions, mostly just useless fluff, and there is nothing to it that gives me any feeling he could be town. It's too careful, and too forced. ##Vote Sheth Why didn´t you follow this up with a vote in the voting thread? | ||
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In this I agree with Palmar, who I think has been looking more Town since he took the game seriously and stopped trolling (so much). ##vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
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On February 08 2012 08:59 layabout wrote: Fuck it ##Vote: Kurumi i do not want town blood on my hands! These lynches suck If you think someone is Town, then you defend them, you don´t just say the lynch sucks. Scum cast blame on Town that mislynch, Town try to prevent the lynch in the first place. I´m leaving my own vote on Sheth. It´s good that he´s finally returned to post, but I´m still leaning scum. | ||
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On February 08 2012 10:33 Kurumi wrote: Forumite, You have posted a lot less that I expected You to. I think You're actively lurking. I´d like to say that I´m not posting much because I don´t want to flood the thread more than it allready is, but it´s actually because I´ve been busy, and most of the time I have goes into catching up in the thread. Being out of practice might be part of it too, I´ve hosted lately, instead of playing, which is much less stressfull. Is there anything specific that you´d like me to post? | ||
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On February 09 2012 04:39 layabout wrote: what have i just read? If you are on Jackal's list can you please confirm/deny it's existence, it can only help town. I´m on his list, and I´m in the phone-thread, nice place to visit, but I wouldn´t want to live there. Palmar is there too, so is risk.nuke, and they are trying to kill eachother in the quicktopic too. | ||
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On February 09 2012 05:57 rgTheSchworz wrote: And QT thing is legal and real? I was sent the link by BC, so I should think it is legal. | ||
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On February 09 2012 06:12 layabout wrote: how so we handle this tri-claim then? We leave it until tomorrow, hoping that no blues among the three die during the night. On February 09 2012 06:13 rgTheSchworz wrote: I am 100% not bullshitting. This is my role. I am not fooling around. I seriously think that some scum or 3rd party have infiltrated the blueclaims hardcore. Fine, you are Two-Face number three. Is there anything we can do about that until tomorrow? Apart from painting a big target on yourself, what good did this do? On February 09 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: I retract my claim. CW, go nuts. Sigh... | ||
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On February 09 2012 06:29 rgTheSchworz wrote: Toad, you are CW or a VT|Vet, whos playing stupid. Leaning towards CW atm, because you claimed at a point where some claims happened and sneaking in the ,,blues,, as a VT|Vet makes a tiny bit of sense, but not much, as there were a ton of targets for scum and CW. No, it´s you who played stupid. Either he´s scum/CW trying to draw you out, or Town protecting you, in none of those situation is claiming the right thing to do. | ||
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On February 09 2012 06:45 Slardar wrote: Can someone or Bloodyc0bbler please address my question? BC if you want to PM me about it(if that's acceptable) please do. Obviously there is more to this game than what the OP says, BC has allready confirmed this by saying that the Neighbor-circle is legit. I doubt you´ll learn anything more, but if you want to get BCs attention, use green bolded text. | ||
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On February 09 2012 10:30 chaoser wrote: Yah yah, I got it. I was actually not going to push the issue anymore but your post in the phonebooth got me confused about why he would fakeclaim and then drop the issue. More than happy to let the day come and settle some of the issues that have happened lol. Sorry about that. From one way it looks like a big Town mess, then scum rooting out a vigi, then I start to wonder if it isn´t the other way around, an orchestrated 3-way Town trick. It´s all WIFOM, but we´ll know what it was really about tomorrow. Probably. About 2 hours, 15 minutes until deadline, right? | ||
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On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote: My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to. No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one. On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well. Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread. On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG? BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades. ##vote DoctorHelvetica | ||
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On February 09 2012 19:54 Toadesstern wrote: Palmar claimed he's sharing his role with me and it looks like he actually is Two-Face. After Schworz claimed Two-Face himself I told everyone that he's a liar and I am twoface making another big post but palmar retracted his claim and there was no way to keep my fakeclaim up at this point. Yes I didn't care if he gets shots because there was no way for me to make stick with my fakeclaim at that point in time, Who cares if your fakeclaim sticks or not? You just had to keep up the WIFOM until the night was over. I agree that Palmar messed up by taking back his claim first, but you didn´t help any by taking back your claim. | ||
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On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote: see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. | ||
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So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. | ||
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On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? I want to know if there are any Town reasons for him doing what he did. If there is no Town reasons then I must assume there are scum reasons. Messing up happens, at least we didn´t loose a Blue because of it, but we could have. Toades, I don´t care who, just tell me, do you have a read on a Two-Face that isn´t Schworz? | ||
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On February 09 2012 20:39 Toadesstern wrote: Palmar's Two-Face isn't he? Also you yourself said there's no reason for Schworz to claim Two-Face after I claimed two-face yesterday. Yet you keep telling me you want to lynch me because I fucked up (still doubt it) but you're totally fine with Catwoman (Schworz) claiming Two-Face? I know Schworz messed up, if he was the real Two-Face he should have just shut up and waited until the next morning. The difference is that that move looks like a Newbie mistake, you taking back your claim looks more deliberate. That´s why I understand Schworz claiming, but not you taking back your claim. I´m willing to let it be for now, as long as there´s something to discuss until later in the day. | ||
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On February 09 2012 20:59 Toadesstern wrote: Thoughts on hiro, sheth, risk.nuke, opz anyone? I'd like to see all of those 4 dead. I agree about Hiro and Sheth, they need to die. | ||
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On February 09 2012 21:02 Tunkeg wrote: Yes, wait with your claim. And for the veterans in this games (or whoever it is that consider themself the top of the pops in here). If DrH claims by name, and he claims a role someone else allready have. Should there be counterclaim? The reason why I am asking is that I fear that if DrH is scum, he might do a desperate nameclaim to either: A) Save himself (best scenario for himself) B) Draw out another blue before he dies. To avoid anymore premature claims, please make a general consensus about this. If DocH fakeclaims when the lynch is between him and someone else, then I think the real character should claim, thereby guaranteeing that the lynch will go on an anti-Town player. If DocH is not up for the lynch, then it´s up to the real one if he wants to claim now or later. | ||
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On February 09 2012 22:18 ico wrote: @ everyone inside the phone network: Did Jason say who he'd kill last night? Nope, Jackal didn´t say anything about nightkilling anyone. | ||
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On February 09 2012 23:56 Palmar wrote: I already explained that town vigis can be blocked, and the mafia can protect sheth. So? Doublestack, counting everyone who claimed they got hit yesterday, there should be lots of vigis. Scum has a medic and a veteran, so unless Sheth is Rashagul (or something), he´ll die if two vigis shoot him. If you are so confident in your read on Radfield, then we should kill him instead. | ||
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On February 10 2012 00:39 Toadesstern wrote: he'd know that himself because there would something telling him in his role pm. Apparently it's not. And I don't see how lynching a bunch of mafias is a bad idea forumite. What's up with you? Not to mention that a "He is Batman" read is WAAAAY harder to do than a "he is not town read". You're telling us to lynch someone we think might end being batman. What happens if palmar and I am wrong about this? Yeah it makes sense and it looks like Rad is batman but I'm not going to jump off a cliff if he's not to quote what palmar said. If lynching palmar turns out bad we're screwed BIG TIME. There is NOT A SINGLE reason to lynch radfield right now given his claim. It sounded like Palmar was 100% sure that Radfield is Batman, you are saying that you are doubting this now? In that case, why did Palmar claim Joker in the first place? Wasn´t it to be able to make the deal with Radfield? If it doesn´t matter who the Batman is, if it´s not Radfield, then there´s nothing stopping him from ignoring us and going on a rampage, is there? I think it´s a crazy plan, one of many in this game, but fine, I´ll play along. Let´s kill Sheth. ##unvote Radfield ##vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
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On February 10 2012 06:37 Tunkeg wrote: I know I am slow but I finally understand why Toad and DrH "knows" about eachother. I should have taken it sooner. And I also understand why you are suspicious of rgTS after this. But as I have said before there is a chance that scumteam have got all the role pm's and one of you are fooling the other. But seing that no one else have claimed Clayface and none have for vet either besides DrH, I am inclined to believe in you (for now at least). Today it do looks like it will be Sheth that gets the bullet. I really hope that Radfield is right though, and as I said before, this lynch will at worst (should at least) give the town proof about Radfields claim. At best Sheth is scum and then we should be in good shape. If this happends expect scum to do revenge attack on Radfield, or perhaps a RB on him. I have no idea why I get a bad feeling about this post. | ||
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I don´t like how disruptive Palmar is compared to his usual Townplay. | ||
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On February 11 2012 18:12 Toadesstern wrote: Still think Chaoser is probably scum and I as I mentioned I disagree with Palmars scenarios he did. Those scenarios are btw a bad thing for town to do according to my very first coach from my very verst game of mafia. Or it was my 2nd game of mafia but I'm pretty sure wbg gave me that advice because those scenarios make town derp way to much. Could you please elaborate? This sounds interesting. | ||
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On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote: I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night. If you were hit last night, why are you not dead? | ||
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Sounds like a counterclaim. Either DocH is lying about being clayface, or Palmar is lying about being Joker. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It's close but it isn't exact. Not following, does this mean Palmar is still the Joker, or lying? I haven´t heard anyone else mention veterans taking hits for vigis, so doesn´t sound like something he heard from someone else. | ||
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DocH got an even bigger target on himself, especially if they are right now confirming eachother. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Don't know if he will. Vigilantes shouldn't shoot him. The only reason I believe Palmar to be town is that he pushed Sheth a bit too hard day 1 and Toades, who I assume to be the real joker, never seemed to have a problem with Palmars claim. To make things more confusing for the potential Batman, in addition to being Clayface, I am also the Joker. Invulnerable to Batman. From what I understand nothing can kill the actual Joker as long as I'm alive. It could be Palmar, it could be Toades, it could be someone afraid to CC. Since I can't die by third party I just need a medic to keep me alive so that scum doesn't hit me and Batman is basically forced to just go off and look for Hugo instead. This is much better than the crazy plan Palmar put together to direct Radfield. How shall we direct medics to protect you? I think naming 3 medic roles, and hoping at least 2 of them are in the game, and at least one of them agree, is the best way. | ||
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If you are 100% sure that you and the Joker are safe from batman, then that´s a different story, and making a deal with Batman might even work, while you live at least. Right now I´m leaning Palmar as Batman, because his play doesn´t feel like his normal Townplay, and he´s the one who convinced Town to work with Batman in the first place. | ||
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On February 11 2012 22:39 Toadesstern wrote: my list still stands: Chaoser Sheth <--- dead forumite risk.nuke opz layabout hiro Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to. Thanks. I know the list is incorrect on at least one point, but still good to know the reads of another Townie. I have a strong Townread on precious few, and you and DocH are two of them. Radfield, is he and Palmar scum, bussing Sheth, or is Radfield a DT who was rolechecked by Palmar during the night? | ||
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On February 12 2012 01:21 Radfield wrote: Palmar is not Batman, because then I would be dead. Conversely he lied about hitting me, but that doesn't really make sense from a Batman perspective. You're also assuming that Palmar is a straightforward player who follows his meta, which is patently untrue. Who do you think is scum Chaoser? Who is at the top of your list? I'll admit I've been skim reading, but by this point I feel like I should know who you think is scum and who you think is town, yet I don't have a good picture of your thoughts. Enlighten me. Why couldn´t Palmar be Batman and rolecheck you last night? His rolecheck found a DT, which is usefull for a scapegoat, because you did check someone the night before. It´s not like Palmar hasn´t lied about everything else he´s done. | ||
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On February 12 2012 02:37 rgTheSchworz wrote: Nope, we hang Jaybrundage tomorrow. He s been scummy as fuck. And Palmar hasn´t? | ||
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On February 12 2012 02:44 rgTheSchworz wrote: Palmar is hard to read. Btw how the F does his actions make sense as scum? He doesn´t read as Town to me, so he´s either doing a crazy gamble as scum, or a crazy gamble as 3rd party. Either way we should lynch him. | ||
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On February 12 2012 02:50 Toadesstern wrote: Palmar claimed Two-Face early on after I claimed Two-Face. He claimed "everyone knows I'm just a retarded vet who tried to catch some bullets" and he claimed Joker afterwards. Basicly palmar tried to protect me because he thought I was making this immortality stuff up and did not realize that Jackal quoted the very phrase that proves that I am actually not bullshiting. Nevertheless he tried to defend me. I don't want to lynch him, not before 4 or 5 other people die. I disagree. He has done some pro-Town things, including some WIFOM, but while he does this he also creates as much disruption in the discussion as he can. That´s not the Town-Palmar I know, Town-Palmar leads town, he doesn´t confuse town. | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:07 rgTheSchworz wrote: No, we re not lynching Palmar, I almost surely know his role. Do you think he´s Town? | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:09 rgTheSchworz wrote: Yes.That or he s third party which is likely also: He s trolling a lot. I don´t see any point with keeping him around if he´s 3rd party, but if you think he´s likely Town then I´ll accept that for now. I don´t see it myself, but perhaps you have some more info. | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:20 Toadesstern wrote: Fancy Conclusion: I do agree he's trolling WAY MORE this game but saying palmar doesn't troll as town is a straight up lie. He cares for town if he's town but lately he started doing stuff d1 like I approached it this game: As long as someone else people are listening to is pushing the right buttons there is no need to pull a p4n on us, bomb the thread with 20 different cases and yell why I am right and not the guy presenting case X. As mafia he's not even reading the thread. That proves that he's not mafia this game but could very well end up being 3rd party or blue. However, I don't see a reason to lynch him yet. That´s not the way I remember him play, but I wasn´t in L, and I don´t think I was in the earlier game either. I´ve been wrong about Palmar before. I don´t think we can deal with a 3rd Party, so if he´s not Town, then he should die. | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:18 Jayjay54 wrote: forumite. how are things? I couldn't find in your posts who you'd like to lynch right now. any suggestions? Strong suspicion on Palmar, weaker on rg (until he claims), qualis, kurumi and radfield (after the batman-affair). I doubt anyone of them will swing, except perhaps Kurumi, but those are the ones I have a bad feeling about. Townreads on Toades, DocH and OpZ. Worried about lurkers, and this game has too many of them. A group of people who keep up and post a lot, then a horde who don´t have time to read, doesn´t post and get forgotten. We will end up with them at LYLO, and when we do, then we won´t have any idea who among them are scum and who are Town. Bill for example, he´s been called scummy several times, but he´s not around enough, so everyone forgets aout him. Sorry for not being more specific, Day 2 and Night 2 so far have been confusing. Is there anyone specific you´d like my opinion on? | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:46 rgTheSchworz wrote: We re lynching scum, period. Any third party-we ignore. Joker is protected and for some reason im still alive as Two-Face. Forumite, you re scummy. Better be prepared to defend your case tomorrow. I disagree about not lynching 3rd Party, but I guess I´m the only one. Are you Two-Face now? | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:57 Kurumi wrote: Schworz is not Two-Face. And Toad is not Joker, or whoever he damn claimed. Would you clarify, today or tomorrow? | ||
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Do you want to reveal why you think/know this tonight, or if you are afraid to call out the real blues, tomorrow? | ||
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On February 12 2012 15:24 evantrees wrote: Two dead vets strange night. Ok now I think he might be scum, will have to check the filters though. Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger? Tonight one veteran died, also one powerrole scum died, don´t lump them together. | ||
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On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote: btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. Meh, I guess you are right. I can still not figure out what Palmar is up to, but most of the spammy part of the players, toades, rg, kurumi, look town, and they vouch for Palmar. | ||
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On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote: Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green. What? When? Didn't rg only fakeclaim checking DocH? | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:01 rgTheSchworz wrote: Wait, if I announce the result, what does town gain? Tell me and I will do it. Right now, no one will believe me. Either I die, which seems not to be the case atm, or you will have them. Its preetty obvious if I strongly oppose a lynch. And there are certain night-flips that can confirm my role. If you claim the check then you might gain credibility, especially if Chaoser confirms it. You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck. By the way, who was your Night 1 rolecheck target? | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:06 rgTheSchworz wrote: Now that I am no longer intent on spreading confusion, someone comes in the shape of JayJay and starts putting me up for lynches.It´s no OMGUS, IMO I lived as long as I have because scum wont risk wasting a hit, for fear I might be a vanilla or something and try to take me out through the thread. I am not going to make someone life easier, especially when that someone hasnt been extremely active so far and starts shitposting after confusion has been dispersed. You have no idea why scum hasn´t killed you yet. Why won´t you say what you got on the rolecheck? If he was an anti-town role then there´s no reason not to claim it. | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:13 Kurumi wrote: Hey Forumite, I am going to trust You because wbg put You on the kill list. What do You think about Bill Murray? Do You think we'll get some fresh news from Radfield? Who's good lynch today? BM is lurking, lying, created the fiasco with jackal Night 1, but he has claimed, and noone has counterclaimed yet. That makes him a later problem for me. I no longer believe Radfield+Palmar are scum together, which means that Radfield is either one of our DTs, or the Bat. I´m expecting fresh news, not necessarily a checked scum though. I want to see what rg has for us, if nothing then I´m not sure. The baseline for scummyness in this game is so high that it´s impossible to find anti-town elements among those who troll and fakeclaim. | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:25 Kurumi wrote: Yeah Schworz confirmed for Batman. Eeeeeey Radfield, what'cha doin'? Didn´t BM say he was going to protect rg tonight? Does your theory still hold up? | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:41 Bill Murray wrote: seeing as toad is questioning my claiming i will fullclaim i am hush, the medic. i can be roleblocked. i didnt want to be roleblocked. i didnt protect jackal anyways. i have 2 conditions with my role that are special abilities in a sense. one to do with protection, and one to do with night time i dont want to go into Who did you protect Night 2? | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:49 rgTheSchworz wrote: I investigated Kurumi N1. Chaoser N2 I assume the first one was Town, was the other one Town too? | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:56 rgTheSchworz wrote: I´m not releasing the results of the checks till my role can be confirmed at night. No one will believe me anyway, and scum will be hopping on my wagon along with everyone. This way, scum at least have something to figure out. I could buy that you are a misunderstood Town DT, but now it looks more like scum or Batman unwilling to cooperate, and therefore anti-town. ##vote rgTheSchworz | ||
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rg, is Chaoser Town or Scum? | ||
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Checked Kurumi N1 Checked Chaoser N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot ??? N1 Shot WBG N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED Protected Layabout N2 Palmar N1 N2 - ROLEBLOCKED There are lots of others, if you remember them, please add them to the list. | ||
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rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 (Harley Quinn) Checked Chaoser N2 (???) Radfield DT Checked Sheth N1 Checked WBG N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot Schworz N1 Shot and killed WBG N2 Toad Joker Shot and killed Kenpachi N1 Shot and killed opz N2 ??? The Penguin Shot and killed Slardar N1 Shot ??? N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED Protected Layabout N2 Palmar N1 N2 - ROLEBLOCKED DocH Clayface - Took a bullet N1 - Killed N2 We´re lacking shots taken. Who took a bullet but survived N1 and N2? | ||
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You were shot but survived? Are you some kind of veteran too? | ||
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rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 (Harley Quinn) - Shot at by Kurumi Checked Chaoser N2 (???) Radfield DT Checked Sheth N1 - Shot at Checked WBG N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot Schworz N1 Killed WBG N2 - Shot at Toad Joker Killed Kenpachi N1 Killed opz N2 ??? The Penguin Killed Slardar N1 Shot ??? N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED - Shot at Protected Layabout N2 Palmar N1 - Shot at N2 - ROLEBLOCKED DocH Clayface - Shot at N1 - Killed N2 Jackal Zsasz - Killed by Scum N1 Slardar - Killed by The Penguin N1 Kenpachi - Killed by The Joker N1 OpZ - Killed by The Joker N2 WBG - Killed by Harley Quinn N2 7 bullets fired N1 4 bullets fired N2 ??? | ||
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On February 13 2012 01:19 Jayjay54 wrote: there is still the mafia framer medic. But layabout is right, the night actions should give further information. To me, rG and chaoser are of the table for today's lynch... I am still feeling hiro. How does evantrees stand out from the other lurkers? (Serious question, not saying he is a bad choice). Agreed about rg and Chaoser, although I´d still like to know if Chaoser is Town or Scum. What do you think about qualis? He avoided the Sheth lynch Day 1, by voting rg and DocH of all people. | ||
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On February 13 2012 01:23 rgTheSchworz wrote: Scum Triplestacked DocH tonight. Add 2 hits. I think BM´s lying. Because that would make 3 medics-One who protected me, One who protected him, One BM. Harley´s off the medic list. That means there˙s still 3, but chances are running pretty low When were you medicprotected? If there were 3 shots on DocH, that leaves us at 6 shots total. Assuming Penguin shot Kurumi, it checks out, more or less. | ||
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On February 13 2012 01:27 layabout wrote: Just got PM i took a hit last night. Were you medicprotected? + Show Spoiler + rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 (Harley Quinn) - Shot at by Kurumi Checked Chaoser N2 (???) Radfield DT Checked Sheth N1 - Shot at Checked WBG N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot Schworz N1 Killed WBG N2 - Shot at Toad Joker Killed Kenpachi N1 Killed opz N2 ??? The Penguin Killed Slardar N1 Shot ??? N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED - Shot at Protected Layabout N2 Layabout - Shot at - Protected by BM Palmar N1 - Shot at N2 - ROLEBLOCKED DocH Clayface - Shot at N1 - Killed N2 Jackal Zsasz - Killed by Scum N1 Slardar - Killed by The Penguin N1 Kenpachi - Killed by The Joker N1 OpZ - Killed by The Joker N2 WBG - Killed by Harley Quinn N2 And we´re back at 7 first night, and 5-7, depending on how many scum shot at DocH | ||
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rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 (Harley Quinn) - Shot at by Kurumi - Protected Checked Chaoser N2 (???) Radfield DT Checked Sheth N1 - Shot at Checked WBG N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot Schworz N1 Killed WBG N2 - Shot at Toad Joker Killed Kenpachi N1 Killed opz N2 ??? The Penguin Killed Slardar N1 Shot ??? N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED - Shot at Protected Layabout N2 Layabout - Shot at - Protected by BM Palmar N1 - Shot at N2 - ROLEBLOCKED DocH Clayface - Shot at N1 - Killed N2 Jackal Zsasz - Killed by Scum N1 Slardar - Killed by The Penguin N1 Kenpachi - Killed by The Joker N1 OpZ - Killed by The Joker N2 WBG - Killed by Harley Quinn N2 | ||
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On February 11 2012 19:21 Bill Murray wrote: i took a hit last night It was late in Day 2. | ||
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On February 13 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote: @ forumite what are you trying to achieve? that discussion is totally without reason. You don't know how many vigs have multiple bullets, you don't know what thirds did. You also don't know how many shots were faked. Let's focus on lynch candidates rather than shots. How do you guys feel about lynching Just trying to clear out some confusion, but it required more updates than I thought it would. | ||
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Kurumi, you took a shot, why didn´t you die? Acrobatics? Nothing mentions Harley Quinn as a veteran, nor do I think it´s likely that you were protected by another player, like the Joker was. Are you Catwoman? | ||
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On February 13 2012 07:45 Erandorr wrote:  \o/ || / \ Don´t edit your posts! | ||
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On February 13 2012 17:31 Palmar wrote: ok let's do this: I'm a Detective. My role name is Calendar Man I checked Radfield last night, he's: Talia al Ghul Don´t you mean Night 1? You were roleblocked last night. I can kind of accept this, but I have two questions. Why reveal this now, and were your trolling earlier (the whole game) to convince Scum you were an unkillable 3rd Party who they should ignore? | ||
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On February 13 2012 17:42 Palmar wrote: I wasn't roleblocked last night. I checked Kurumi night 1 and got vanilla town back as result. Seriously, you need to get your story straight. You´ve said you were shot N1, and roleblocked N2, you pushed Radfield into revealing his Shethcheck Day 2, are you saying you winged that one? | ||
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On February 13 2012 17:50 Palmar wrote: I never said any of those things. Stop lying. Whatever. What made you so sure that Radfield was a DT Day 2, that you were able to push him into revealing his knowledge of Sheth? | ||
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On February 13 2012 18:06 Palmar wrote: Radfield isn't a DT. I had no idea he was gonna bus Sheth. He claimed it in the first post he made. Bitch please. You know you can't hang me, find something else to do. I give you scum, you already know he's scum because you're scum. The rest of town might appreciate it. Do whatever you want with this information. Radfield... more like REDfield so clever Chill with the OMGUS. You can´t expect me to not be sceptical to what you claim, when you deny what you do soon after. + Show Spoiler + On February 09 2012 22:49 Radfield wrote: I got shot last night. rgShworz is obviously not Two Face, and in act I'm willing to bet he is not a DT. He claimed a hit, yet no WAY catwoman did not target him last night. Therefore he is either unkillable by Catwoman, which means he is either one of the vets (Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze) or Poison Ivy; or he himself is catwoman. Yet he has claimed DT, which means he can only be catwoman out of those options. The Two-Face claim kinda makes sense if he's catwoman, but I can't really wrap my head around it. However his entire role-claim was bizarre(claiming dt out of the blue), which reminds me ALOT of the iGroks early neutral-balrog claim. There was almost no pressure, and he claimed a role which was basically guaranteed to see him killed. If he was bulletproof at night that actually makes sense, as the lynch is the only thing he fears. I still need to think about this, but he's not the lynch today. We're missing a ton of KP, so it makes sense that if he is catwoman, he might have investigated DocH. Which means it's possible he's not lying, but it sure sounds like bullshit. He should have gotten a role back, not an alignment. Either way, DocH and Toad seem more than confident enough, and both seem like town. If it comes to name claiming so be it, but I'd rather their identities remain hidden. In other news, I investigated Sheth last night and he is Tyger  This gives us a whole truckload of info from the Day 1 lynch, because Sheth and CC were neck and neck for a while until CC ran away with it. I haven't looked through it yet, but I assure you scum will fall when I do ##Vote Sheth On February 09 2012 22:56 Radfield wrote: That's ridiculous. There is no way in the world that Catwoman would not shoot RG last night. It was a free Two-face kill. Schworz even claims he took a hit, but a catwoman hit is unblockable unless you are a vet or Poison Ivy. Schworz is neither of those, hence the most likely option is that he is catwoman. Also, if he was actually a detective he should have gotten back a role, not just alignment. Why do you think that mafia have a medic? I don't see that anywhere in the OP. I see DT, Roleblocker, Vet + 3 KP. On February 09 2012 23:02 Palmar wrote: Radfield: you just claimed a DT. You survived a hit of mine last night. This is very interesting to me. On February 09 2012 23:03 Palmar wrote: Is there anything in your role that would allow you to survive hits? Or do you think you got medic protected? On February 09 2012 23:03 Radfield wrote: If I was black I would have shot you in the face Palmar I most certainly would not have DTed Sheth.I assume I was saved by a medic. Why would you ever shoot me night 1, it borders on braindead. You're supposed to have good reads on me too Palmar. I'd accuse you of being black, but then I wouldn't be here would I. That leaves mafia or bad Palmar... which is it I wonder? So are you voting Sheth or what? I checked the exchange. Indeed, Radfield DT-slipped first, so assuming you lied about the roleblock N2, and about being a DT and not a Vigi, this could have actually happened. | ||
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On February 13 2012 18:27 Palmar wrote: okey honey, let's soldier on then. I'll kill toad. but, weren´t you a DT just now? sigh... | ||
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On February 13 2012 19:48 Tyrran wrote: He is trolling. he's not a DT, doesnt have a check on Radfield. Instead he is a Vig ( harley quinn) that shot radfield nigth 1 and was RB nigth two. @Palmar : What makes you beleive Radfield is Scum and not Batman. You changed your mind on him but did not give any reason. Are you really expecting us to blindly follow a lynch like that ? As for now, we have no reason to lynch Radfield. He has given us Sheth early day 2, and it really did not look like a scum move. He maybe is DT, maybe Batman as Palmar initially claimed. The only reason for lynching him would be to protect Toad if Rad is batman. And as stated multiple time in this thead lynching scum is better than lynching 3rd party. Why not lynching you instead forumite : * You jumped on newly created Radfield Bandwagon despite having NO reason to do so ( other than 'palmar told me' when it is obvious he is faking his DT claim). * You voted sheth reluctanctly day 2 : This post is scummy in several ways. First you do not seem wild about lynching Sheth. Why ? On day 1, you were all for lynching him, but now "it is a crazy plan". You are contradicting yourself here. Secondly, "it is a crazy plan " on day 2, and now that sheth has flipped scum, as radfield predicted, You blindly accept to lynch radfield based on a obviously false DT check. It doesnt make sense. It looks like you really want Radfield dead, and it doesnt make sense as town, but it really makes sense as scum. Therefore, You are scum. I´ve no idea what Palmar is up to, but he says there´s a red check on Radfield. We could lynch him and if the check was a lie, lynch Palmar tomorrow. Either way we know if Palmar is helping or hurting Town. Please get your facts straight, there´s no bandwagon on Radfield, I´m the first to vote him, because there´s a red DT check on him. Also I was one of those who voted Sheth Day 1, the day that you and others mislynched Cyber_Cheese. Sure, I was reluctant to vote him again Day 2, but only because there was a strong suspicion that Radfield was Batman, and that we should lynch him first. I´m not the most shining example of Townplay in this game, but at least call me out on the odd things I do, not those that make sense. | ||
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On February 13 2012 23:21 Toadesstern wrote: ok here's the deal. There's no way that all 4 of you guys: Palmar, Rad, Kita and forumite will flip red. Especially since wbg flipped red yesterday I highly doubt that. More like 1 of those 1 red (which is already a lot with wbg since everyone says he's so good as mafia), 1 or 2 end up being third party and whatever is leftover is town. Ironically I don't want to lynch forumite anymore. <3 It´s possible that Palmar tells the truth about Radfield, and we are choosing between Scum and 3rd Party, but Radfields DT claim D2 would have been an odd gamble. I´m leaning towards lynching Palmar, and have someone check Radfield. I´m not sure how Radfield would flip and I´m almost certain Palmar is 3rd Party, and it feels like killing the possibly usefull Batman is preferable to mislynching a Town DT. Either way I think the lynch should be between Palmar or Radfield. | ||
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On February 13 2012 23:48 Toadesstern wrote: it's 15v5. Mafia has 3KP. A mislynch is basicly a loss for town. What do you propose we do then? If I believe Palmar is Batman, then I can accept that Palmar gives a correct rolecheck on Radfield so that Town can go on killing scum. Wouldn´t that make Radfield a good target? | ||
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On February 13 2012 23:54 Toadesstern wrote: you're telling me radfield got locked up n1? He couldn´t have been, Radfield checked Sheth N1 | ||
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On February 13 2012 23:56 Forumite wrote: He couldn´t have been, Radfield checked Sheth N1 EBWOP: Nevermind, Hugo Strange´s role doesn´t say anything about roleblocking whoever he protects. | ||
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On February 13 2012 23:57 Toadesstern wrote: yeah make it Checking sheth and wbg are both pretty convenient for him. Sheth was basicly dead anyways and wbg was dead before he claimed the check. I know, especially Radfields second check was unhelpfull. Do you think Radfield is scum, and was protected by his own N1 then? | ||
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That would make him 3rd Party, and I thought you were the Bat. | ||
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If Radfield is not counterclaimed anymore, and there is no rolecheck on him, then what makes him scum? His unhelpfull rolechecks? | ||
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On February 14 2012 00:26 Palmar wrote: yeah, could be, especially now that you look a lot less scummy. I'm sorry, but it's sometimes hard to tell intentionally dumb from accidentally dumb. Love you though But the lies! We can't go on together, with suspicious minds, suspicious minds. | ||
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On February 14 2012 01:07 layabout wrote: Qualis has a good shot of being scum too. I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die. I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option. I don´t like Palmar trolling either, but it´s either live with it, or loose. We can´t afford a mislynch, but neither can we afford wasting a lynch on third party right now. They may not have Towns best interest in mind, but it´s leaving them be or loose. | ||
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On February 14 2012 02:46 Toadesstern wrote: However given how much I failed this game I'd like someone else to step up and explain who we should lynch tonight. If I am wrong again I basicly lost the game on my own because I made every townie follow me, which is a nice treat to have but really not if you're wrong. I am not willing to lynch third party today. We need to lynch mafia. That's all that matters for today. Don´t be too hard on yourself. I was Town 3 out of the 4 times I caused Town to lose. That being said: On February 14 2012 02:53 Toadesstern wrote: I'm going to sheep forumite. Get in this thread We should go for Radfield. If he´s not red, then at least we know Palmar is, and our vigis can gun him down. This lynch brings us somewhere, I´d rather go for a target we have a lot on, than hope a random shot into the lurkers gets a scum. | ||
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On February 14 2012 03:07 chaoser wrote: Wait...Radfield says he DT Sheth and that he was mafia. We lynch Sheth and he flips mafia. And you all want to lynch Radfield? Are you all stupid? This is like when people wanted to lynch me in LOTR for killing Radfield and he flipped red... We think it was all a big bussing of the most scummy of the scumteam. Radfield not giving us anything from his N2 check enforce this. | ||
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On February 14 2012 03:09 Jayjay54 wrote: he is no DT, kurumi just validated the role, because he thought rg is town. there is no chaoser check. this also makes me wonder if we really have no town DT (if rad is red). sad panda  My mistake. I don´t really like all this fakeclaiming, if Town lie, then we can´t call out scum who lie. | ||
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- rgTheSchworz - 0 - Bill Murray - 0 - Evantrees - 3 Palmar Chaoser Adam4167 - risk.nuke - 1 Jayjay54 - Tyrran - 1 Mill Murray - Tunkeg - 1 Katina - hiro protagonist - 0 - Radfield - 8 Forumite Tunkeg Palmar Toadesstern Kurumi jaybrundage -_-Qualis Rayzorflash - Palmar - 3 layabout Radfield VisceraEyes - Forumite - 1 risk-nuke Current votecounts. Looks like Radfield is the prime candidate. | ||
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On February 14 2012 05:10 rgTheSchworz wrote: Yes. All scum would be on DT ´s lynch. Forumite already revealed himself. See that quickvote along with little contributions despite being active. Trust me, I am not wrong on this one. I´m afraid you are way off. Sorry for making you think I´m scum. | ||
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On February 14 2012 06:28 kitaman27 wrote: I was leaning town on you, but posts like these make me sad Sorry, but I would expect the wagon to go much faster if Radfield was Town. | ||
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On February 14 2012 06:31 layabout wrote: Does anybody object to lynching Tyrran or Evantrees? I would object to lynching Evantress because he posted this early in the game: On February 10 2012 07:58 evantrees wrote: Hugo Strange Since he is so powerful he is able to have someone locked up at night (protecting them from 1 hit). Is it just straight protection or does it role block as well? Not sure about Tyrran, he´s called me scum, and I don´t know what to make of that. I can understand it, but he did while I was pushing Radfield. | ||
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On February 14 2012 06:51 rgTheSchworz wrote: Forumite, please explain why Rad is scum. Because Palmar says he shot him N1, and no medics have come forward to claim the protect. This suggests that Palmar is Batman, and his hit didn´t go through because Radfield is Talia al Ghul. With Radfield claiming DT, him surviving can only be because of protection, or because the hit couldn´t touch him. We can trust Palmar in this because we think he´s 3rd Party, and therefore need to keep Town alive until he´s killed his two targets, and even in the case that Palmar is Scum, he´ll have a huge target on himself during N3. | ||
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If you do change the lynch, please consider jaybrundage, or maybe Rayzorflash. They are my strongest scumreads after Radfield right now. | ||
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On February 14 2012 08:03 kitaman27 wrote: Please move off radfield if you won't be back. You're going to put yourself in a bad spot late game if you don't. I´m not worried about how I´ll look tomorrow, I´m worried about not lynching scum today. I plan on leaving my vote on Radfield. If something big comes up then there should be enough people online to change the lynch from Radfield even if I´m not around. There are enough people wasting their votes, ask them to change their minds. On February 14 2012 08:09 rgTheSchworz wrote: ##Vote: Forumite Seriously, who votes on someone he knows won´t get back before the lynch? Drop it, you will not lynch me today, not in just 4 hours, not without making a case, and not without giving me an opportunity to defend myself. I think you are Town, but I don´t like what you are trying to do right now. If you think I´m scummy then take it tomorrow, but this is not the time. | ||
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Okay, we have a lot of information here, several people tried to divert the lynch, some townies, some scum. Who are your most likely scum from this? For failing to unvote, I'd say jay is still there. | ||
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On February 14 2012 16:12 jaybrundage wrote: I want to make this clear. I thought i voted for Radfield. However i didn't unvote Hiro. So it didnt switch my vote. I didn't notice till i saw BC's post of the total vote count and saw my name was still on Hiro I´m reluctant to use this as proof of your townieness, for two reasons. First because your vote on Radfield or anyone else wouldn´t have changed the vote, and because you didn´t vote for Radfield in the first place. Yes, it´s possible you made a mistake about not unvoting, but I´ve seen scum say they vote, but include a silly mistake which makes it not count, then argue that the meant to switch, while they didn´t. You didn´t encourage others to vote Radfield, didn´t even argue your case much when you yourself voted. It makes me think that you were hoping that Radfield would not be lynched, made sure you didn´t vote for Radfield while making it look that way, and not speaking up in the thread in case that would condemn Radfield, or make you look scummy. You are still on my list of scum. | ||
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- 90% scum: Jaybrundage risk.nuke VisceraEyes Chaoser - 50/50: tunkeg Hiro Protagonist Katina Layabout Tyrran - 90% Townlist: rgSchworz Kitaman27 (against the lynch but claimed blue, who hasn´t been counterclaimed) Rayzorflash Evantrees (screams newbie town to me) Adam4167 (Revoted Radfield despite Kitamans claim) Bill Murray (claimed Medic, only reason he´s here) - 100% Townlist: Toadesstern Qualis Jayjay54 Forumite <- Shameless self-promotion - Ignore list: Palmar Kurumi If there´s anything you think is wrong or odd in my list, please speak up. I know there are at least 5 townies in the first two categories, but I think most are in the 50/50 group, not the 90% scumlist. | ||
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On February 14 2012 22:23 Tunkeg wrote: Hiro, Razor, risk, jayjay all of those are pretty good vigshots tonight. Risk is a good target, Radfield and scummy players wanted to buss Hiro instead of Radfield, so perhaps him. Jayjay is not a good target, he looked Town during the lynchdiscussion and still do after the flip. Not sure anymore why I thought Razor is probably Town, but please stay off him anyway. | ||
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On February 14 2012 22:42 Adam4167 wrote: Well, one easy way to know for sure If Deadshot dies, do the mafia lose his KP? Yes, it says so in the OP, Hugo directs the shot that Deadshot does, if either of those are dead, then the third KP is gone. | ||
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On February 14 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote: I already said I'm not going to tell you what I'm about to shoot, I'm the only one that has a blockable shot. I'd much rather see you and Palmar call out your shots and I'm picking whatever is left. As mentioned, I think risk.nuke, VisceraEyes, hiro make all good hits. Chaoser and jaybrundage as well but I haven't looked into them for a while after my furious attack on chaoser and the fact that we did not end up lynching him. Sorry for the odd math, I really should know better. I agree with you, all five of risk.nuke, VisceraEyes, hiro, Chaoser and jaybrundage make good hits, the other suspects are there if we don´t find enough scum among those 5. | ||
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On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote: My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol... ##vote: Radfield This is why Rayzorflash is Town, quickly agreeing with the Radfield lynch. I felt like Jayjay was fumbling along like a Town when the Radfield lynch was going on, not afraid to show himself and his ignorance. I´m not sure after rereading, but I had a very strong feeling of him acting Town when the lynch was going on. | ||
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On February 16 2012 06:07 Kurumi wrote: Apparently using logic is illogical here . Oh well . Should've killed someone smart like Adam . I will have a surprise for You anyway. I don´t like the sound of this. ##vote Kurumi | ||
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On February 16 2012 08:42 Adam4167 wrote: What is the legality on posting the entire phonebooth QT in the thread? I feel like I'm trying to put a puzzle together with half the pieces. If its legal, can someone whos still in it, please post it. We know all the scum have seen it, Radfield and Bugs were in it. Not sure if it´s allowed, but even if it was I don´t see any gain for Town. It´s not used much anymore, nor were all posters truthfull with their names when posting when we did use the thread a lot. Those two scum you mention are dead, so unless there are more scum in the QT, scum will only know what´s been said earlier. Revealing it would in that case give scum more info. I think I prefer keeping it for a Town-circle tomorrow. | ||
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On February 16 2012 20:53 risk.nuke wrote: And shooting vicera is >50% likely to reduce scum-kp. Risk, who is your scumteam? | ||
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On February 17 2012 02:12 Palmar wrote: you need to claim now bro. who? me? | ||
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On February 17 2012 02:14 Palmar wrote: yes. I will after risk tells the truth about what his check gave. | ||
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True dat Okey, risk is Two-Face DT, and I´m Penguin Vigi. We are both valuable Townies, unkillable for now except by Catwoman. Either we kill CW and have two unkillable blues, or we die during the next two nights. Personally one Town KP might come in handy... | ||
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On February 17 2012 05:21 Kurumi wrote: Well, If Catwoman wins and the game ends instead of going on either I or Batman wins. Probably. Does 3rd party win and the game ends or it continues? When 3rd Party win they are removed from the game, and the rest of the players continue playing like nothing happened. A 3rd Party win only affect the player himself. | ||
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That was my thought. Revealing himself was bad enough, he couldn´t reveal another Townie too. I suspected this from his reluctance, and from correctly coloring me blue in his short list. If he was scum then it would have been very dangerous to make something like that up, so he would have more dead people on his list. | ||
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It doesn´t change my opinion on the lynch, we should take out Kurumi, especially now that risk and I have revealed ourselves. | ||
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N1: Shot Slardar. Claimed in the Phone Booth topic. N2: Shot Kurumi, didn´t take apparently. Softclaimed in the thread when matching up nightactions. N3: Shot Chaoser, just like Joker did. I was originally going for VE, but changed right before deadline, because he sounded so apologetic in the thread. Go me! | ||
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On February 17 2012 05:57 jaybrundage wrote: Penguin who have you shot so far? Because as Adam stated I dont think we saw your KP anywhere have you shot? On February 17 2012 05:50 Forumite wrote: Since I´m claiming: N1: Shot Slardar. Claimed in the Phone Booth topic. N2: Shot Kurumi, didn´t take apparently. Softclaimed in the thread when matching up nightactions. N3: Shot Chaoser, just like Joker did. I was originally going for VE, but changed right before deadline, because he sounded so apologetic in the thread. Go me! My shots N2 and N3 didn´t show up for a reason, but I´ve shot each and every night. Joker is still ahead of me in Townkills, even if we count Chaoser as teamwork. Go Me! | ||
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On February 17 2012 07:17 Adam4167 wrote: Forumite, why did you list Jayjay as 100% town in your list? My read at the time. I hope more people on the VE lynch changes their mind and take out Kurumi. He´s definetly not Town, most likely Catwoman, but could be a scum Powerrole doing a weird gamble. Either way we need him to flip. If he flips CW then rg is confirmed Town, if he flips red then rg is 100% scum, and VE is most likely scum too. | ||
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On February 17 2012 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I appreciate you completely ignoring my request for a case to defend Forumite. Srsly, top notch. I pushed the lynch yesterday to victory on a hunch, against your objections, and then changed my nightshot from you to a townie after you pleaded Townieness in the thread. I´m not happy about letting my read get changed like that, but you got this chance to show your townieness. Help us lynch Kurumi now. Town needs us two powerroles, and we need to know what rg is, especially now. I´ll decide if you are Town or Scum later, but right now the pro-Town thing you could do is help us kill the one killing Town. Anyway I don´t know what you are doing, if we don´t lynch Kurumi then you die. Do you want to sacrifice yourself to save Catwoman? If, from your perspective, it´s two bad lynches, then you should be on the one that doesn´t kill you, because we´re not choosing a third target 2 hours left on the day. | ||
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On February 17 2012 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote: What are you talking about? I was on Kurumi before you were dude. My mistake, I read the voting list and mixed them up. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually, JayJay's list (the last one you might have seen before leaving earlier) wrongly had me on hiro protagonist...so that's actually not surprising. I doubt it was intentional, as I'd posted both in-thread and in the voting thread, so it's not like he was trying to fool anyone. Subtle... VE, who is scum? | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:18 hiro protagonist wrote: I want to lynch scum, not 3rd party. If we had found CW like 2 nights back, maybe, but I am very sure VE is scum at this point. and His chances of flipping hugo or DS are quite good I think. The fact that there are scum hiding behind the "safe lynch" and townies taking the "safe lynch" means we gain no info on voting from this round. I would lIke to take the stand that VE is scum and the better lynch. that being said, I see a semi win/win to the day: ether we lynch scum or catwoman. I just hope you realize that the remaining scum are pushing the CW lynch with town... And VE, I know your gonna say that I have no case. This is not true, I dont have the time to write it. Right now we need to lynch CW or she will just kill me and risk, no matter how many medics we have left. We need confirmed Town, rolechecks and Killpower in the hands of Town, which means making sure that CW is not around to kill those assets. We don´t waste killpower by lynching CW, rather we save our ability to kill during the night. Yesterday it would have been fine not killing CW, but with me and risk allready revealed, we can´t let her be around anymore. As for you theory that the remaining scum are pushing CW, that´s not very subtle. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:51 hiro protagonist wrote: This is why I hate themed games... No, I dont, but If we lynch VE, and he flips scum, This gives our vigs a much smaller pool of players to shoot into... think about it. Not for long, because if Kurumi is around then I will die tonight or tomorrow. Your argument doesn´t make sense. | ||
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So? Even if their medic protects the right one in 50% of the cases, it´s still half a nightkill more than we´d have without me. Batman will disappear eventually, then it´s one lynch during the day, and 2 dead Townies each night. A night without any Town powerroles scares me. No protects, no more info for the new day, not even the chance of getting back at them during the night, while they kill whoever they want. This setup is built around scum killing, not only lynching, we need to be able to kill. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:59 hiro protagonist wrote: god, just see my side of the argument! Kill CW, I dont care. I just think its more worthwhile to kill VE, thats all... Hey, see it from my perspective, Catwoman is out for my | ||
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On February 17 2012 12:23 hiro protagonist wrote: fine, I hope you guys are right... ##vote Kurumi Thanks. | ||
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On February 17 2012 12:35 evantrees wrote: Except the lynch is pro scum as well, one less suspected scum getting lynched. What do you mean? | ||
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On February 17 2012 21:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm actually looking through filters now Forumite. What are your thoughts on the scumlist I provided earlier? I think your scumlist is the right. On the other hand that´s from playing with these people with the suspicions I had at the time. The scum on your scumlist are extra scummy due to them trying to stop Kurumi getting lynched, but that was based on my worry that Kurumi and rg were really scum together. They were not both scum, but I wonder how rg acting yesterday fits into all this. If risk says Mr Freeze doesn´t protect him, and rg objects, is this them tricking scum or rg fakeclaiming Freeze? Risk hasn´t confirmed the existance of Mr Freeze in this setup after all, and risk correctly named me, so I´m inclined to believe risk if they were somehow opposed. Then again, they had WBG for one night, did they check me that night? No, I don´t really think this is an elaborate scumplot, but it´s easy to get very, very paranoid, which is why I´m glad there are some other players around who are good at analyzing. I´m going to do my own rereading later tonight, but right now VE's scumlist is what I think, but not what I would expect from a scumteam where their 3 most skilled members are dead. If it´s VE's 4 players, then they are pushing their agenda over trying to blend in, which doesn´t make sense. | ||
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On February 18 2012 17:30 Adam4167 wrote: What are your thoughts, Forumite? Anger mostly. The two most vocal players yesterday were Scum VE, and Palmar who wasn´t helping. I should have shot VE the night before last, we´d have been in a much better position now. Right now rg looks bad, because nothing about risks role-PM says anything about Mr Freeze, this together with yesterdays rant about Kurumi makes me want to take him out. He´s not the only scummy player though. Not sure what to do about Hiro, all the dead scum have wanted him lynched, but could be WIFOM-crap. Tomorrow 2 players will be dead by Town hands, and 2 will be dead by scum. If the lynch or nightshot doesn´t kill scum then the game is lost tonight. I will probably not survive the night, so this is it. | ||
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forumite - guaranteed in game, not Counterclaimed Evantrees rgtheschworz - Claimed Mr. Freeze, not guaranteed in game Katina Adam4167 Hiro Protagonist Jayjay54 jaybrundage RayzorFlash | ||
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Checking the votes, he hasn´t been on a single pro-Town lynch apart from the Sheth-lynch, where scum all bandwagoned. He voted Quails D1, Forumite D3, and risk.nuke D4, making sure to avoid the popular lynches. He´s fakeclaimed Two-Face and fakeclaimed a Red check on DocH, which got the Three-Face thing going, and revealed DocH and Toades as blues. His play has been full of wild accusations, mostly of nowadays confirmed Town, and is disrupting when possible He has been breadcrumbing, by making it laughably clear what he´s trying to appear as, with things like this: On February 10 2012 01:01 rgTheSchworz wrote: Optimal Veteran-play is not to make sure scum knows you are a veteran and stays away from shooting you. I seriously don't get it. I posted in a hurry because it's f...ing FREEZIN in my country atm and i had to go to school. 20 pg+ since I went afk. Please explain Toad why i'm not Two-Face. This is what I have so far, but I´m fairly confident he´s the one. ##vote rgTheSchworz | ||
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On February 18 2012 18:18 Adam4167 wrote: Didn´t he and Palmar claim late in the day? Do you think BM was trolling when he announced he took a hit on N1? Did we ever solve that? Not sure, the old list could use updating, but with 3rd party lying about their moves, who knows? On February 18 2012 18:22 Adam4167 wrote: While we were lynching him, Kurumi dropped hints that it would end badly for us and that there was a surprise in store. It was in spite, but makes total sense from a CW perspective, to confirm scum as blues to make the game harder for Town. What do you mean "Kurumi left a poison pill in the game somewhere"? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + - rgTheSchworz - 0 - Bill Murray - 0 - Evantrees - 0 - Risk.nuke - 0 - Tyrran - 1 Bill Murray - Tunkeg - 0 - hiro protagonist - 1 Jayjay54 - Radfield - 9 Forumite Tunkeg Palmar Toadesstern Kurumi -_-Quails Katina Adam4167 jaybrundage - Palmar - 1 hiro protagonist - Forumite - 1 rgTheSchworz - rayzorflash - 2 layabout chaoser - Chaoser - 6 Kitaman27 risk.nuke Radfield RayzorFlash VisceraEyes Evantrees Rayzorflash and Evantrees looks Scum Katina looks Town. I´ll back off from rg for now, but from this I think the lynch should be between either RayzorFlash or Evantrees for their last desperate defence of Radfield. | ||
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It´s an unknown mechanic that we can not rely on. We can rely on the lynch, and my last nightkill before I die, that´s it. The Riddler game is an unknown factor. That Evantrees would use it to defend RayzorFlash strikes me as suspicious though. | ||
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Thinking about it, RayzorFlash looks way better than Evantrees. RayzorFlash was voted on due to Kitaman, and changed to Chaoser after Kitaman asked him, while Evantrees got attention when a confirmed scum tried to distance himself from him with a weak case based on "His filter says nothing". ##unvote RayzorFlash ##vote Evantrees | ||
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6. Jayjay54 13. jaybrundage 21. rayzorflash 22. Evantrees 23. -_-qualis 24. forumite 27. rgtheschworz 30. Katina 31. Adam4167 There are 10 players alive and so far only 5 have voted, 4 on Evantrees and Evantrees on RayzorFlash. That´s not much this late in the day. | ||
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On February 12 2012 23:05 rgTheSchworz wrote: Hoping I won t be wrong Kurumi. Damn you, you are Harley Quinn. Please confirm. On February 12 2012 23:06 rgTheSchworz wrote: I hope there‘s some empathy between us Kurumi. I can understand that rgTheSchworz wasn´t sure what Kurumi was, he isn´t a DT after all, but the second post is very disturbing. | ||
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On February 19 2012 21:33 Adam4167 wrote: For the record, I was trying to figure out if Jackal shot at BM. Take it how you please though. Why does that matter? | ||
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On February 19 2012 21:55 evantrees wrote: I'll ask this a touch more directly Should I claim before I go to sleep or when I wakeup? Claim early if you want to claim at all. If you think it will save you from the lynch, go ahead and claim now. | ||
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On February 19 2012 22:32 Adam4167 wrote: On Schworz: He claimed the hit an hour after the day 2 post came up, way before any interaction with Kurumi. If Kurumi had DT'd him, discovered he was scum, Schworz would have to of been shot from somewhere else (where??) or be lying about that as well. Then, with no knowledge that Kurumi DT'd him (if he were scum), how would he know Kurumi would corroborate his story later. Look at this post. With Kurumi's flip now revealed, I think this post is obviously telling the story of what happened on N1 between Schworz and Kurumi. I think the level of synchronicity between them can only be explained by rG being a vet, Kurumi being catwoman. rG can only be town. Good point about him claiming a hit early. Okay, rg is town. | ||
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On February 20 2012 06:48 jaybrundage wrote: Its not a question about whether or not there was KP for the shot I was shot. If it was scum or a vig i dont know. But i do know i got shot. Is anyone claiming the shot? It could of been Palmar. But i doubt it i think he went after VE. Why would i claim i got hit last night if i hadn't got hit. It doesn't make any sense. On February 20 2012 08:44 jaybrundage wrote: I dont get. What have i done that was so scummy. I tried to push my best scum reads. I have tried to look for scum. Do you guys really assume that i would make up a hit for no reason? I dont get it. If you were shot, why didn´t you claim this nearly two days ago? There´s no reason to keep something like this a secret if you are town. I think your claim is fake. On February 20 2012 08:25 hiro protagonist wrote: I gave you all plenty of time to kill me in the early game, I hell fucking asked for asked for it. Its not my fault that the vigs decide Im not worth the trouble, so now your stuck with me, because its most certainly LYLO. I did so because my work can go from chill to crazy busy without prior warning. There are many games I have played as town where I post little, and this is always the reason. My reads have been bad because I dont have the time to read everything as well as I should. Should I have asked for a replacement? maybe, but I wanted to play and I was hoping work would quite down so I could focus on this game. And besides, Im far from the most scummy lurker this game is infested with, so i dont feel to guilty. If you cant understand why Its a lynch between Evan and JB, then I got nothing left to say... your ether dumb or scum. Don´t blame the vigs for not killing you earlier. Shape up instead. It doesn´t take that long to read up, if you focus on the relevant pieces of the thread. | ||
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Found an error in my last post. I should aim for Scum, not Town. I wish I´d thought about this much earlier in the game... | ||
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On February 20 2012 09:10 Adam4167 wrote: Aiming for scum, just a bad joke. Thought about what? | ||
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I´m rereading the thread to get an idea who to shoot at. The last medic, I´d like you to protect me or one of the other confirmed Townies. Not Evantrees, he´s got 2 lives, he´ll manage. I will most likely not claim in advance, but you´ll know who I shot by looking at whoever dies, it´s not theorethical physics. | ||
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On February 20 2012 15:21 -_-Quails wrote: Assuming hiro isn't killed in the night. What is our KP at nowadays? ScumKP is 2, until we kill one more scum, tonight or tomorrow with the lynch. TownKP is 1, from me. I don´t think there´s anyone else. | ||
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On February 20 2012 20:20 Adam4167 wrote: But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one. I´d prefer if you didn´t rely so heavily on me. I was in the Team Fortress game where there were 5 Town and one Scum in the end, and I lead town through 2 mislynches and lost us the game. Things like that doesn´t make me very confident being Town leader. Also I´m dead tomorrow, barring Medic assistance, so this is probably my last night in the game. Right now I´m choosing between killing Hiro or shooting Evantrees to confirm him as Town. I´m suspecting that Jaybrundage tried to get one of him and Evantrees confirmed Town, in response to everyone wanting to lynch Evantrees despite his Veteran-claim. The thing is, I´m probably wasting a kill, but if it was a trick, which I think it was, then this shot is the only way that we´re going to know without killing him. I think I´d rather confirm Evantrees and make sure that it wasn´t a crazy setup, and leave you to lynch Hiro tomorrow. There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans. Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere? Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone? | ||
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Forumite rgtheschworz -_-Quails Leaning Town: Jayjay54 Adam4167 RayzorFlash Leaning Scum: Katina hiro protagonist evantrees The reason I thought Katina was Town earlier was because of her being on the Radfield lynch early. The reason I´m suspicious is because all/almost all confirmed scum have talked a lot about her. They´ve often mentioned eachother in scumlists, and dropping weak suspicions. Evantrees is likely scum because of how Jaybrundage reacted to pressure on Evantrees. If Jay had just shut up then we´d probably lynched Evantrees anyway. He was definetly not confirmed Town, so why would he try to draw attention to himself by makeing a crazy claim? Hiro is the usual suspect of everyone since the start of the game. Scum have made sure to have nothing to do with him, accusing him of mild scumminess whenever possible. + Show Spoiler + - rgTheSchworz - 0 - Bill Murray - 0 - Evantrees - 0 - Risk.nuke - 0 - Tyrran - 1 Bill Murray - Tunkeg - 0 - hiro protagonist - 1 Jayjay54 - Radfield - 9 Forumite Tunkeg Palmar Toadesstern Kurumi -_-Quails Katina Adam4167 jaybrundage - Palmar - 1 hiro protagonist - Forumite - 1 rgTheSchworz - rayzorflash - 2 layabout chaoser - Chaoser - 6 Kitaman27 risk.nuke Radfield RayzorFlash VisceraEyes Evantrees | ||
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On February 20 2012 21:28 Adam4167 wrote: I honestly have no idea why he claimed, it really made no damn sense. I think it was partly to protect Hiro, partly he thought he might have more credibility than evantrees and we might side with him. So JB saw that Evantrees was about to be lynched, but everyone switched to Hiro. In order to save Hiro and lynch Evantrees, who allready looked scummy to Town, he counterclaimed, and also claimed having been hit just for giggles. Unfortunately he wasn´t a more trusted Townie than Evantrees, it´s just that we´d forgotten about him until then. I guess this scenario makes sense. I´m still unsure about rg. He slipped when he said that Freeze protects Two-Face, probably because he thought all veterans protect people. He claimed being hit before Kurumi called him out. I wonder what he thought then, he´s a veteran who just got shot, and his ability had become useless. Why not just claim veteran instead of Medic? In that situation it´s like he was a vanilla townie who claimed Blue to draw bullets. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Risk claims, including some WIFOM to protect me from Catwoman. On February 16 2012 23:16 risk.nuke wrote: Okey. I was thinking I'd let some discussion run on this scumlist, so I'll drop this in a while. Okey, It's been a while, discussion donned of and we don't have all the time in the world. You people ready? Here goes. The thing is Forumite isn't Two-Face. I know this for two reasons. One: I am Two-Face. And two: I checked Forumite last night and he is Mr. Freeze, my guard and protector. I choose to be a detective and have checked.
rg claims and screams bloody murder. He claims he´s breadcrumbed, I checked his filter and didn´t see anything. On February 17 2012 00:04 rgTheSchworz wrote: GUYS. LYNCH FORUMITE, I AM MR FREEZE. I CRUMBED VECTOR- AKA VICTOR VICTOR FRIES-MR FREEZE Called out, risk keeps his calm and admits that he told a lie about my role. On February 17 2012 00:05 risk.nuke wrote: I know for a fact that Forumite is blue and not hugo. I don't think I am allowed to reveal why but anyway just trust me. And even if he were there would be better things to do then specculating on this. We don't lynch regular town-checks in search for the godfather unless we have very good reason to and we don't. Anyway, can we lynch catwoman? Veteran breadcrumbing? I guess he means those two times he mentioned not wanting to claim his role, because breadcrumbing that you are a veteran is stupid. On February 17 2012 00:10 rgTheSchworz wrote: Look at my filter and tell me my play doesnt make sense as Mr.Freeze. I have crumbed 2 times I wanted to get shot SO BAD!!!! Out for blood. On February 17 2012 00:12 rgTheSchworz wrote: Simple thing to win this game: Lynch Forumite. If Hugo, things are dandy. If simple scum, lynch nuke. If he Mr Freeze, LYNCH ME!! Plan to get me lynched because what´s wrong with risks check must be me. The alternative lynch is Kurumi, so if risk is confirmed Two-Face, then we just gave him to CW. On February 17 2012 00:15 rgTheSchworz wrote: A Million And 1 reasons to lynch Forumite: 1. If hes Hugo, then our DT is confirmed, 3 scum left, they have 2kp. Also, medics know who to protect.We win 90% here. 2.If hes not Hugo, then lynch our ˝DT´´ and Quails. 2 scum left. 3. If he´s Mr Freeze, which he can t be, then lynch me. If anyone here really believes I am lying when I can seal the deal for town, then they re mad or scum. It takes a while before rg answer this question. On February 17 2012 00:17 Tyrran wrote: @rG : Are you two-face's bodyguard ? More lynch me because I must be Hugo. On February 17 2012 00:19 rgTheSchworz wrote: No reason to let Batman still in this game. Lynch Forumite, then Batman dissapears. Then we know the scum, because DT will confirm 2 ppl, Bat will be another one. Risk asking rg to calm down and make sense. On February 17 2012 00:27 risk.nuke wrote: Ney, Batman needs to shoot hiro or whatever other scum he wants to kill tonight, I trust palmars judgement. If you want me to live tomorrow you lynch catwoman today. Rg I don't get why you try this hard, It's smart play but scum will never buy it sorry, you're just cluttering up the thread. You're ivy and it's easy to figure out. I hate spam. rg answer by calling for a lynch of risk. Finally claims not being a bodyguard. On February 17 2012 00:30 rgTheSchworz wrote: Better,LYNCH RISK NUKE. I am no one s bodyguard. He claimed freeze was his own. And finally his goal revealed, getting two blues lynched. On February 17 2012 00:31 rgTheSchworz wrote: Two-face will prolly not claim because of this. I suggest strongly he claims. We lynch nuke and forumite. His actions scream Scum. The only thing agaisnt this is that he correctly claimed not being a bodyguard, but this is an easy claim for scum to make anyway if they´ve read the lore any. | ||
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On February 21 2012 01:35 evantrees wrote: There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans. Part of why I think rgtheschworz is scum. Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone? It's not shooting scum. You could shoot rgtheschworz to do something similar but I think he would actually flip scum. Really? Your defence in this situation is that rg did it too, and that I should shoot him first? Rg did a breadcrumb, claimed earlier, act like a Newbie Town Veteran, and allready took a shot much earlier, and your suggestion on spending my nightkill is not to confirm you as Town without killing you, but to kill that other veteran who allready took a bullet, and therefore won´t survive another one. Your defence look like that of a guilty scum, caught and cornered, hoping to quickly shift blame and get out of it alive. The good thing is that I can easily make sure if you are telling the truth or not. I still think I´ll shoot Evantrees, and leave you to lynch Hiro tomorrow. That should wrap it up. | ||
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On February 21 2012 03:16 evantrees wrote: Hunh, interesting. No I think rgTheSchworz is scum which is why I brought him up. Also this, he supposedly can still take an extra hit. rg, why do you have an extra life still? Didn´t you get shot way back? | ||
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On February 21 2012 06:14 rgTheSchworz wrote: Forumite, are you here? How do you want to confirm me? I breadcrumbed 2 times, called for nuke s lynch because he was f...ing lying and not helping town. I seriously thought another 2 face would come of. If I was In a scum team, Wouldnt I tell one of my team to claim 2 face? Town, think. I have been honest with you since day 2 on. Perhaps too honest. That´s nonsense, risk was two-face, and claiming to get him lynched is nothing scum would do, because the real Two-Face is not a problem once revealed, since Catwoman will just kill him. Actually, that was what went wrong, risk was revealed but we lynched Catwoman to save him and me, against your protests. You breadcrumbed late, after 4 days. Why didn´t you breadcrumb early and get it over with? Late crumbs suggest that you had to think about it, or talk to your scumteam. There are so many things I think is scummy with your play. I wish we had a DT alive still. | ||
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On February 21 2012 06:16 rgTheSchworz wrote: I still have my second life. Are we LYLO next day? We are 7v2 right now. If I kill a townie and mafia hit with all their shots, then we are 4v2 tomorrow, LYLO. If I don´t shoot a townie then we´re at 5v2 tomorrow, also LYLO. | ||
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I can´t figure this out. I see a connection Katina-scum, Jay-scum, Katina-Jayjay, and Jayjay-Jay, but NOT Scum-Jayjay. Rereading the thread, trying to find clues. | ||
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On February 08 2012 02:52 Jayjay54 wrote: Other than this I want to address three more things. Schworz: He really seemed like the easy d1 lynch, scum would have liked, because of no information gain and bandwagon with (probably) all sorts of people. His first posts are genuinely town to me. This was on mind yesterday, but I guess he’s of the table which I like. Katina: So you basically contribute nothing all game long and then you accuse me because my first sentence in the whole game was happy and I phrased “Quit pro quo” a little less formal? Also, you took the second quote completely out of context. You really seem to be looking for something you can’t find. Odd. Palmar: Wow, you contribute. This is lightyears compared to L. I like it. To your list (contains a lot of what I know about the playstyle): VE: 55% agree. His play seems to be scum, but then again he behaves exactly like in L. I feel like there are better options right now. Hiro 95% agree. He was so vocal in L. In spite of being a blue DT. He doesn’t do shit this game and I don’t know why he would switch that playstyle being town when he already showed that he can be vocal as a blue. So yeah, I am up. Sheth 70-75%: Agree. I have trouble reading him. Already had in L. He always seems to not really spend a lot of time with this game. But I guess the arguments vs. him look pretty scummy. Would probably be up for it as well All in all, my vote is on doc: ##Vote DoctorHelvetica. I’ll be up for hero maybe Sheth as well. I’ll be online for the next few hours. So feel free to ask me stuff, chat and discuss. Please leave third parties outside. So long. Layabout: thanks for the games, will look into it. Thoughts on this post? | ||
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On February 08 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote: Not Random anymore. I sense that I am about to be lynched, if not today maybe tomorrow. Also the atmosphere is turnin mafia-favored rapidly. Votes flying left and right, dispersed votes makin it easy for scum to lynch town today. Due to that, I am claiming: I am a Detective .Unless people insist that I claim my name, I won't do it due to obvious reasons : I may or may not be Catwoman's target. I have not had the chance to investigate yet. I will probably be roleblocked.untill we can find the roleblocker. On February 10 2012 01:01 rgTheSchworz wrote: I seriously don't get it. I posted in a hurry because it's f...ing FREEZIN in my country atm and i had to go to school. 20 pg+ since I went afk. Please explain Toad why i'm not Two-Face. On February 11 2012 18:58 rgTheSchworz wrote: Voting for me is a waste at this point in time JayJay. Even if you think i m scum because I lied,then you should shoot Palmar because he lied too. Can t say that I agree with chaoser defending me. Trusting what you think on first impulse is bad. On the other hand, how can you explain my actions, in a way that I end up scum? Reasonably, I should ve been scumcoached by now.would they allow me to endanger their team? rgTS, you claim detective even before breadcrumbing veteran. I find this very suspicious. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 08 2012 11:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Like, its Open Office, spreadsheet. It has my thoughts on most ppl, some didn't get on once I started getting a lot of pressure on me I stopped doing it. Mafiaaaaa Tobberoth Voting VisceraEyes, Becase of over reaction. Layabout “Lets all vote for no good reason!” Not wanting to vote Kenpachi, Others wasting time! VisceraEyes OMGUS Kurumi Pointing out his reads on everyone (New or Not!) Jackal58 Two Trolls – Noob – Cowboy (Kurumi outting them) Ok Killing Radfield if he doesn't post soon. Palmar Being rude. Going after people for being “Stupid” Thinks like I did. Batman just killing ppl + Bill Murray Calling the Claim weak, not me. Voting Kenpachi Radfield Actively Lurking JayJay54 Actively Lurking is scummy Up for Lynching Me. CyberCheese Agreed with my plan about Hugo + Joker coming out. Slardar Lurking a bit, yet still helping out. Toadestern Not caught up yet. Lurkers Priority of Lynches Voting Me! CC Layabout Then Ken / Pal/ BM DoctorHelv People are Stupid, afraid of Palmar (Respect) Bill Murray Thought I was scum, changed mind in the same post. Katina Thinks I'm rambling. Read from a veteran player + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2012 03:10 Jackal58 wrote: A wild Chaoser appears!!!!!!! Being stalked by a wild Tobberoth!!!!!! People I have played with that need to post more: risk.nuke ~OpZ~ Your inactivity makes me nervous. People I don't know or don't know well that haven't posted jack shit: Slardar Tobberoth jaybrundage Tyrran ico evantrees Katina Adam4167 evantrees is scum. That's a scum question. | ||
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If rgTheSchworz flips scum, then his scumbuddy is Hiro. If rgTheSchworz flips town, then it´s most likely Katina and Jayjay54 who are the scum. | ||
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Adam, you think I should shoot Hiro? I was thinking that shooting the claimed veterans is safe, because it won´t cost us a townie if they are the real deal, will actually confirm them, making it easier to find scum tomorrow. | ||
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On February 21 2012 08:39 Katina wrote: I don't know why you think Schworz is any worse of a case than evantrees, who has a much worse posting history. I still think evantrees is the liar here, or at least one of them. I'm not mafia, and unless you think the remaining scum team is Hiro and Adam, someone, maybe multiple people, are lying about their claims. Someone recently said that it seems unlikely for all four veterans to be in the game. I don't know how setups work but BC says that not all the blue roles are in the game, and so far we have nearly all of them. We are missing many named characters. No Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Azrael. It just happens to be more vigilantes and veterans than medics and DTs. | ||
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On February 21 2012 08:44 Adam4167 wrote: I think if you shoot rG, he will die, since he already got hit on N1 by catwoman. We cant afford to be safe anymore. I think you need to flip JayJay. The entire scum team tried to get Palmar hanged, him and Hiro are the only ones with that in their filters of the remaining players. If he flips town, the town can all agree to lynch Hiro tomorrow, then move onto either Katina or start questioning the veteran claims. What if Jayjay flips green? What do we do then? | ||
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The only reason I considered shooting the veterans was to confirm them, if that´s not on the table, if it´s just killing, then it´s better to start with whoever we are most certain of. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3761/958098217f9968412ea.jpg) Forumite and -_-Quails are confirmed by risk-nuke Adam4167 looks town to me from his actions during the Radfield lynch. Basically he got fed up with Kitaman and his riddler claim, and voted Radfield when scum went for Chaoser. ico/RayzorFlash, I got a townread from some things that ico did early in the game. I´m leaning newbie town on him. Katina and rgTS have both done several mistakes in their play, and probably deserve to get shot once each, just to confirm them as town, but unfortunately I don´t have enough bullets. Consider them town for now. They both have 2 lives left so expect them around tomorrow. Of these two rgTS is scummier but is more or less confirmed by Kurumi, so focus on Katina when i doubt. hiro protagonist is scum, and soon about to flip. Jayjay54 avoided Radfield lynch, said he didn´t want to lynch town and put his vote on hiro. Currently 6v2 Hiro scum: 4v1 - You can afford one mislynch, but kill Jayjay first anyway. Hiro town: 3v2 - LYLO, measure once, cut twice. Take a close look at Rayzor and Katina before deciding. For now, keep your fingers crossed that Hiro flips scum, and then lynch Jayjay tomorrow. Now I´ve got an umbrella to deliver. | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:41 Adam4167 wrote: Something isn't sitting right. rG, you need to get in here and explain how you still have a second life. If catwoman shot you on N1, you don't have a second life. He´s not coming back. What´s the matter? Did you find out a way he could be scum? Because if you have, I´d love to shoot him instead of usual suspect #1. | ||
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Evantrees and rgTS are the veterans. Katina is scummier than evantrees. Katina is scummy for being too interesting for scum. Evantrees is scummy for not making sense as a veteran, he played like a scummy lurker, not like a blue with a mission. Messed up the post a bit. | ||
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On February 23 2012 15:13 Adam4167 wrote: My reads were shattered after Hiro flipped town. I just couldn't believe someone could do so little and actually flip town. Then rG claimed a shot that didn't exist after lying a half dozen times throughout the game? What could I possibly do? How could I just ignore another lie that was blatantly against what was in the day post. This just strengthens how much i loathe people that lie as town. I see you are not often around at the endgame. It´s always like this, those alive at the end are the scummy lurkers, scum have allready killed all the active ones and the obvious towns. You can´t complain about vigilante-hits if you don´t talk about it. Noone discussed scummy players during the night, and later on when I wanted tips on who to shoot during night 4, the only ones speaking about nightkills were VE and Palmar, and none of them cared about giving accurate reads. I know there were people with town-reads reads on the scummy lurkers, but they didn´t speak up, and I was definetly not going to draw attention to myself as a blue by asking about it with so many people needlessly claiming, so I had to go by my own reads. | ||
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On February 23 2012 17:16 wherebugsgo wrote: ofc you can complain about vigi hits. The only person responsible for the hit is the vig himself. If you don't have good enough reads to shoot scum then don't complain about others complaining. yes, some of the veterans (roles, not players) played horrifically, but at times they did things that should have tipped you guys off that they were town. All the mafia were actually very exposed and I don't think we did a very good job of hiding ourselves. Kudos to JayJay on a great game, and Katina for somehow living the entire time. Also to kita for being an overall baller and nailing like four of us. Bah, I shot into scummy lurkers that noone cared about because there were no talking about who else to shoot. The only blues who were discussed were those who claimed. It was a game with a lot of vigilantes, I´d expect more direction to them, even if scum have a medic. Katina played great in this game though, the only thing that made me suspicious at the end was how often scum talked about a lurker who never did anything. | ||
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On February 23 2012 18:54 Tunkeg wrote: LOL @ scum being allowed to discuss the riddlergame in their QT. Pretty much make The Riddler game the most antitown bluerole in the game... This doesn´t sound right. The riddler game is a solo situation. I hope they didn´t reveal the phone booth QT to eachother too. | ||
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On February 23 2012 18:57 Jayjay54 wrote: yes I agree. we only solved one riddle, though...town and scum (JB) both lost one person to it, so it was ok. But the role itself was really antitown... Did you share the answer to the revealed riddle between yourselves? | ||
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I call cheating! | ||
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On February 23 2012 19:01 Jayjay54 wrote: the riddler role states no discussion in thread or phonebooth. It doesn't mention scum talking about it.... also, bugs (I think) asked BC and yes he was allowed to share the phone booth. We weren't allowed to post though. There was really nothing to take away from the phone qt... e: and again, only one person got out of it...so it was not really that much of a deal... It doesn´t matter if you didn´t gain that much from it, you could solve your riddle faster and get an advantage over town in the riddler game. That´s what makes it cheating, and cheating is not tolerated. | ||
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On February 23 2012 19:18 Jayjay54 wrote: I believe we did: e: also, BC frequently read our topic, he surely would have intervented long before we figured out the Bloody Cobbler riddle. It´s not expressly forbidden, that doesn´t mean it´s allowed. You should have checked with BC. Saying it´s his responsibility to stop you from cheating is low, he´s got enough to deal with in this game. | ||
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On February 23 2012 19:26 Jayjay54 wrote: Like I said, I believe Rad did. Moreover, after we started discussing a bit BC posted this in the QT: So I am really sure, that this was, in fact allowed. as you see, he even encouraged talking about it... Really? When wondering about the Riddler game, you should talk to eachother to get answers, but Town should shut up about it and figure it out themselves? You don´t find that odd? | ||
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On February 23 2012 19:30 Jayjay54 wrote: yes. I do find it odd. Like I already posted, designed like this, the Riddler is really anti-town. But if the host of the game encourages you to discuss, wouldn't you? Or do you believe that this wasn't BC??? I´d ask again for clarification. The answer I read sounds like you should tell eachother about the rules that BC have told you each through PMs, so that he doesn´t have to tell you all individually, not that you are free to help eachother with the riddles themselves. | ||
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On February 23 2012 19:44 Jayjay54 wrote: again, I believe Rad did that. Plus, at the point where BC posted that we already made some Riddle comments, he would have stopped us. Seriously. Also, BC answered possible answers with hints. You could ask questions about the riddle and he gave information. That's what he meant. He literally inspired us to all send questions and answers in and compare what we get back...combine that with the riddler message not mentioning scum QT, I see no reason to assume that this is forbidden. Finally, only one person got out of the game. JB actually had the answer to his third riddle immediately and failed to send it in, because he was too tired which evens it out even more. No game breaking done. Both lost one person, that's better than your other vigs  So far I have "Radfield probably took care of it", "BH didn´t stop us" and "but we screwed up the advantage we got from cheating so it´s okay". ##vote Jayjay54 | ||
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On February 23 2012 20:04 Jayjay54 wrote: alright, last comment from me on that issue. a) It nowhere states that this is forbidden, you just assume that it is, because of "the spirit of the riddler game". Maybe the vig was designed to not be good, because you already had a fuckton of KPs (lynch+2x compVigs (Joker, Penguin) + normal Vig (sasz)+ solomon's passive)...not to mention the thirds. Did you ever happen to think that the last vig was not town favoured? b) BC did not only let us continue, but actually encouraged us to discuss and share what our inquiries got us. After seeing we started discussing. c) Rad said, he'd check, so I believe he did, why wouldn't I? You just call us cheaters, because you think the role should be different. Well, it wasn't... I hate being called a cheater. You say I´m making assumptions, but it´s you who are making assumptions. You assumed Radfield checked and got an OK, you assume that you were allowed due to the specific wording in the announcement, and you assume that BC is checking your every post in the scumQT, ready to jump forward if you do something weird. You´d only need to make sure once, check with Radfield again, send your own PM to BC, and I would have no real problem with this, only with the setup and the riddler power. | ||
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On February 23 2012 20:18 Jayjay54 wrote: this is what BC posted: He says we should talk about the game with other players in the game. Everyone received the same Riddler PM, so it is not at all about rules, but about inquiries and questions. If we aren't allowed to talk about the riddle at all, why would he write this? BC actively encourages us to discuss the riddles. "The more question asked the more information they receive". How is this not a confirmation that we are allowed? No, BC asked you to talk to eachother about what answers he had given so that you could "figure out how the game works", basically figure out how the power works, that´s not the same as helping eachother solve the riddle. | ||
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On February 23 2012 22:23 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah, I was about 80% certain you were Two-Face, but I was worried about rg because of what a mess he had made earlier with the three-face fiasco. I didn´t want to claim, I was content being an invisible vigilante that catwoman couldn´t find, but I also wanted to confirm you. Your check on qualis and me made you a very likely town in my eyes, scum wouldn´t risk qualis or me counterclaiming, but I couldn´t be sure, and I really wanted to shut rg up, I was not going to accept a blue getting lynched by him, so both of us claiming was the only alternative I could think of. I struggled with choosing between detective and vigilante since I wanted to be a vigilante but my abillity was inaccurate and in the end I decided to go with was just the safer choice. My actions were. Night 1 (Heads) Kitaman27 (Tails) Jayjay54 Kitaman returned as the riddler. Night 2 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) -_-qualis -_-qualis showed as an Arkham Inmate Night 3 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) Jayjay Forumite investigated as the penguin. Night 4 (Heads) JayJay (Tails) Adam I got shot and died. At day 4 I thought long about if I should claim, I didn't consider myself in any danger of dying to lynches or scum but Kurumi had gotten me really worried that he knew who I was. In addition both Forumite and Qualis were both looking decently scummy and I was also worried they could be killed tonight by town. When I claimed I thought I would be a confirmed blue since it was absolutely impossible that the real two-face wouldn't counter claim me if I had been lying. Because of that I felt pretty confident that Forumite and rg would go along with what I said. I knew rgschwors had claimed freeze and I considered him very unlikely scum. I wasn't sure if Tunkeg really protected he penguin but I was leaning towards it. I claimed I checked qualis but decided to swap Forumites role confirming him as blue to the town but not revealing he was the penguin which I really didn't want to out to catwoman. I thought about if I should claim he was Bane or Freeze and decided with Freeze because I found it unlikely town would believe and accept that all the 4 Veterans were in the game. This in itself was a problem because schwors was freeze. Schwors might just not go along with this so I tried to directly tell him to claim Ivy which made sense because Ivy was likely to be in the game due to her special condition with Catwoman. It also would had made sense for a medic to claim veteran which made schwors beeing Ivy more believable. It would also mean that scum would shoot him tonight. I also tried to bogus claim that Freeze was my bodyguard. It didn't make sense flavor-wise which alot of players quickly commented on but in another way it made sense because all the other townies wanted by third party had protectors. In the end the worst possibly thing happend. Schwors got a huge erection from knowing what I said wasn't true and in his zeal believing he had caught scum his penis flew up and hit him hard in the head. I'm really curious to what you were thinking schwors. Because you went up against a person who you should have considered confirmed town and started trashing everything he said. From Forumites actions, first lurking while I was dealing with schwors and then beeing very hesitant later with how to proceed I think Forumite belived I was two-face and realised what I was doing. Overall I think you should have just named me blue or town instead of lying about me being Mr Freeze. In this game fakeclaims tend to lead to real claims, and then death. OpZ is the only one I can think of who fakeclaimed well, and only because he didn´t have anything to lose. On February 23 2012 22:26 Jayjay54 wrote: the shot claim was a little too much, I agree. The timing was fine though, very first post he made day 2, people were voting all over the place...nothing scummy timingwise here imo.... BM saving rg and saying he saved lay is still beyond comprehension to me. Same thing with kurumi. Why appear as scum? rg's play in general was beyond comprehension to me. It would have made more sense if BM claimed the protection of him, and if he had breadcrumbed earlier, but in the lategame I was openly considering shooting veterans to confirm them, and he was silent about there being a counter-kill tied to shooting him. Scum wouldn´t waste 2 shots to kill a suspicious veteran at that stage of the game, so the only thing that could have happened is me dying because he didn´t speak up. | ||
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On February 24 2012 00:11 rgTheSchworz wrote: gg, I did play horrible after Toad´s CC. I should´nt have lied or I should have lied much more. My reads have been bad, except for JayJay and JB, who btw, should have been lynched D3 instead of Kurumi. D3 lynch decided the game, I had no credibility whatsoever in the endgame. Should have pushed that much more for JB D3, if he had gotten lynched, we would have won. Your Two-Face claim at the end of the Three-Face fiasco kind of worked, at least I thought you were the right one. You shouldn´t have claimed a guilty check on DocH though, it got both of you in trouble, and more or less forced him to claim afterwards. One mistake was wanting to get shot too much. Blues don´t look the same as Veterans, blues are generally more worried about calling attention to themselves, but veterans are more confident, knowing that they are fulfilling their agenda if scum think they are town and shoot them. Therefore when you say that you could claim if needed, without there being any pressure on you, it doesn´t look genuine. | ||
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