BC's Arkham City - Page 36

On February 08 2012 04:16 Bill Murray wrote:
doctorhelvetica has contributed more than nearly everyone within the thread, do you not see that? would scum not advocate talking about 3rd party, then do so, in a direct contradiction? he's also being really up front.

On February 07 2012 23:05 Kurumi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [snipped] +
People I think are mafia:
Cyber_Cheese
DoctorHelvetica
-_-Qualis
wherebugsgo
Kenpachi
Probably Mafia:
Layabout
I haven't looked into Sheth case. Give me some time.

On February 08 2012 07:34 Kurumi wrote:
I am afraid because i have no time and my targets are not exactly the candidates Didnt look into sheth or cc too much is vote wbg if it would matter but it doesnt so i voted qualis because he is my strong scum read too

On February 07 2012 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I feel pretty good about Liquid'Sheth, Cyber_Cheese, VisceraEyes, and possibly Tunkeg as a team at this point. CC is accusing me of being catwoman out of nowhere. This is absurd, the VE defense force is out now as I expected. This only increases my confidence in my vote. Kitaman reasoned pretty well, let me explain further why I don't like VE.

This is a player who made it understood, before the game, that he would be active.

1. His first post is defending Sheth by attacking a player who is suspicious of him, with no substance. He asks a question to the mod, this is a great thing to do as scum by the way it gives you something to fall back on that scum "totally wouldn't do". Sheth's only posts are early starting the easy FOS on kenpachi that happens in literally every single game kenpachi plays in. He is the easiest person to get lynched Day 1 usually, mafia want EASY bandwagons that look kinda scummy, they only risk huge lynches when they are threatened.
2. Is totally inactive, shows up again when he is called out and then OMGUS votes. You're voting to lynch someone on Day 1 because you don't like their "reasons" for voting? But the reasons for voting on KPach who green claims every single game meaninglessly are solid right?
3. Other players defending him chainsaw.

Liquid'Sheth also comes back with more fluffy comments about the already finished Batman discussion. I really wish we would stop beating this horse and CC's claims are even more ridiculous. I'll address those soon in this post but let me reiterate it makes no strategical advantage for Batman OR Catwoman to shoot before using DT.




All 3 players contributed more than he did. All VE has done is defend himself. All you're really doing is pointing out 2 players who haven't contributed much yet but making it look like you're doing some serious scumhunting. I don't know if you are usually this dramatic about absolutely nothing as town though. Someone can inform me of that.



Ridiculous. Even if I was Catwoman, I'd have no incentive to use my hits until late in the game. DO NOT WASTE LYNCHES ON THIRD PARTY. IT IS A WASTED LYNCH.

Town does NOT win by lynching SKs. Town must LYNCH scum. Catwoman is a threat to town, mafia is a bigger threat, and the only threat that involves our win condition.

Not only is his interpretation of my posts which are focused on making sure the town doesn't give up the joker terrible, but he misunderstands my whole point. My whole point is that Batman/Catwoman shouldn't shoot. We can't cut a bargain with them because they have no incentive to "help" us and can't even claim. HE was the one who made the plan centered around killing a townie to help Batman, I said we don't need to do it and realized pretty quickly that BM/CW won't even shoot early game. That makes me catwoman? That's the most desperate call I've ever heard.

JayJay says "a scum win is a catwoman win", which is not true. CW wins if Two-Face and Penguin are dead. She does not want scum to win the game before that happens. If that happens, she does not care who wins. It's as simple as that. Yes it is a role that hurts town. It is also a lower priority than lynching mafia.

Insinuating that I might be third party or scum for saying we should just use our lynches to kill scum really is a mindfuck and I'm gonna be really disappointed if both of you guys flip green or blue at the end of this game, take some time off to learn how to play town please.

There are a lot of FOSs flying around which is good for later analysis. I don't like Kurumi or Palmar right now but it'll take a bit of time to see how that develops. For the time being my strongest reads are on :

Liquid'Sheth - Long posts with no substance/easy FOS
VE - Posts only to defend himself/others for most of the game
CC - FOS me for talking about neutrals when he invented the bad plan focusing on them, advocates lynching third party instead of scum

Kurumi - I don't like these "scum list" things, especially on Day 1. It makes it look like you did some work but there's basically no thought in it. No one cares what your little hunches are. It is alright to have some FOSs flying around if you flip it gives us something to go off of, but put some more thought into it, that's all.

On February 08 2012 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Ugh still been catching up, just finished now.

I feel like RG might be Hugo.
Ico seems like a decent choice for lynch, if for some reason he comes up as a viable option, I could agree to swap.

@BM, you are insane, but in an awesome makes the game more interesting way. Please never change!

On February 08 2012 07:43 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At all the votes on me:
We should satisfy the neutrals town targets asap so they don't have any reason to fire randomly. You can pray they DT if you want, but It's not something I want to rely on. I still feel like someone that could kill every night might do it just because they can, and I still suspect it's more optimal than DT'ing.
I expect 2-3 groups arose to take a stance on my plan:
-Mafia to shut it down
-The townies who are targets, out of selfishness
-DocH Catwoman
But that's the last I'm going to say about it.

On February 08 2012 05:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
6 votes was the Largest wagon 6 or so h before lynchtime. If scum were going to hop on it, I would be d

On February 08 2012 04:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Due to the huge amount on votes on me I have decided I'll probably claim after I am done eating.
Well done, bad townies and scum. You have driven me nuts with your pointless accusations.
If it will get me lynched at least you'll have more info than is available and can be obtained through the people you want dead now.

On February 08 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Not Random anymore.
I sense that I am about to be lynched, if not today maybe tomorrow.
Also the atmosphere is turnin mafia-favored rapidly. Votes flying left and right, dispersed votes makin it easy for scum to lynch town today.
Due to that, I am claiming:
I am a Detective
.Unless people insist that I claim my name, I won't do it due to obvious reasons :
I may or may not be Catwoman's target.
I have not had the chance to investigate yet.
I will probably be roleblocked.untill we can find the roleblocker.

On February 08 2012 01:59 Bill Murray wrote:
when i say half of the game having names of their own, i mean to say half of the game are town power roles

if you are not green, and not mafia, you are a power role, right?
i guess not all 16 have to be in the game...

anyways, im going to officially claim that i am not a townie

On February 08 2012 02:47 Bill Murray wrote:
I am not quite sure what I can claim and not be modkilled
I dont want to be modkilled and not help the town
Im not claiming 3rd party, im a town PR

On February 08 2012 03:30 Bill Murray wrote:

a. i have outted my role, as a mouth of the network, so i can be protected - how is that not 100% info i know?
b. the role with which the neighbor came from is confirmed town

On February 08 2012 04:57 Bill Murray wrote:
I want everyone to answer these:
1) How were you introduced to mafia?
2) How would you describe your playstyle?
3) Are you better as mafia, or town?


RVS is overrated.
I personally prefer RQS, and having a questionnaire.

As such, I will initiate that:

I'll go first.
1) I first started here, on Teamliquid
2) I would say that I'm erratic, with unique and creative ideas
3) I am better at getting people to listen to me as mafia, but sometimes I am obvious. I would say I am better overall at being town, though, like this game, people rarely listen to me. I am actually a very good scumhunter, which is why I was kind of nervous when I got a power role.


@adam, on page 14 you voted for someone who, having not posted, was in line to be modkilled
in that post you had legit reasoning to vote kurumi
why would you vote for someone you had to have a null read on, unless he's your scumbuddy, when you may end up being stuck with that vote if you can't get back on before the deadline? (internet problems, family problems, zombie apocalypse)

wouldnt it be better to have a vote on someone you have reasoning on, regardless of when it occurs within the game?

On February 08 2012 08:41 Tyrran wrote:


This is just plain bad. Why would you sacrifice 3 blue role ( one to Batman and 2 to catwoman) just to get rid of the 3rd party, not even to get rid of real scum. Just of the chance they shoot and do not DT ? On day 1 ? Why should they shoot randomly early ? Why ? How do shooting early help them satisfy their win condition ?

It doesnt.

That is just 100% scum play to get rid of town blues, how do you not realize this.

This plus the fact that I got no gut feeling on sheth means you get my vote.

##Vote Cyber_cheese

On February 08 2012 08:37 layabout wrote:

thinks CC is mafia

didn't look into CC much
...

Also layabout, stop posting your goddamn reads on every player. When you post stuff on every player in the game (like that chart) you are bound to get manipulated It's why a lot of vets say don't seed the thread with your town reads; what's it going to accomplish? If they're actually scum they'll be delighted to be called town, and if they're town then scum will kill them because too many people think they're town.