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On February 03 2012 09:48 CosmosXAM wrote:
I don't see why I am suddenly a target again, but I feel a zelblade lynch would be best at this point simply based on the options left. Bromancipate bugs me but being a hydra is a pain to try and read and study, so I am not sure who is talking when or what their specific opinions are at that time. A team between the two is plausible but we can only really wait until one of them dies to make an astute conclusion about that.
I have sent my response to sl0osh to Jitsu to make sure he agrees with what I am saying. I guess as a hydra we should try and make a united appearance. The problem is that doing this delays when we can respond and makes us look bad. That is why I think it is better that I post my opinions immediately. I am sure it can be a little confusing but at least it is transparent. Since you guys have complained I will try and get Jitsu's approval for stuff before we post just don't expect immediate answers.
As for you being a target, you are simply a target for my analysis. I believe there is a mafia between you and Chocolate and everyone is looking at Chocolate. Hence my look at your filter.
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On February 03 2012 09:53 Bromancipate wrote:
Well thanks for coming out saying it. I am writing up my defense now but just quickly why does a supposed SS DT finding zelblade as scum make me scum just because I defended him. My initial response to this was conformation bias all the way. You are convinced that zelblade is scum and so my defense of him must be a scum protecting his buddy. Well it is not. I don't want us to lynch a townie, so if I believe someone is town I will defend them. Just because you come to a different conclusion does not mean that I am scum.
My belief that zelblade is mafia is only a support, NOT a foundation to my case against you.
I want to make that clear right now.
I assume you read my post and still believe that zelblade is town (despite calling him "scummy as hell").
As I have said before, a case can be made against any of the four, but it stands to reason that at least two of them MUST be town. And so if you still so strongly believe that zelblade is town, I wish for your thoughts on my post and how either Chocolate or CosmosXAM is much more likely to be mafia.
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We are at 6 town 2 mafia. In the worst case scenario:
night ends: 5 town 2 mafia
mislynch : 4 town 2 mafia
night: 3 town 2 mafia
With only 1 mislynch we approach lylo, and as I have said, there are 4 candidates whom people would lynch as individuals but we can't do this. At least 2 MUST be town.
Please don't forget this point I think this is so crucial.
Also I find the twice now lack of acknowledgement of DoYouHas as town very disconcerting.
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Alright I have read your recent posts sl0osh but this is my defense of your earlier case. I will respond to the latest ones after this.
On February 03 2012 09:31 slOosh wrote:Ok I'll come out and just say it. All the cards on the table. I think Bromanicpate is mafia along with Zelblade. I didn't want to straight up do this since I wanted others to think about this before I posted anything, as I do not have too much confidence in my ability to articulate and did not want to give you the chance to rip apart my analysis based on my poor articulation rather than reasoning. Townspeople, please focus on my reasoning. Again I want to re-emphasize, mafia pairs. Bromancipate has been playing a game of subtle persuasion, misdirecting the town as he has become more active. The reason why this is so strong is that it seems pro-town lynching suspicious people, but as I have said three times now, we cannot lynch one by one. Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 07:47 slOosh wrote:
There are two mafia left, which is to say that out of these four at least 2 MUST be Town.
MUST be. So you need to be a lookout for 2 mafia and see their interactions with each other and the town, as looking at individuals does not work in this situation.
Well I don't agree with your logic here. People play this game as individuals, sure mafia is a team but they still have to post on single accounts. We can only lynch one person at a time so making a decision about a pair is useless. To me mafia are the ones driving an agenda that is not beneficial to town. If someone is suspicious it is normally because they are driving an agenda that does this. That is why I hunt scum. I don't really care who is town because I don't have to choose to lynch a townie. I need to be sure that person is scum.
Besides focusing on pairs allows you to be swayed by WIFOM. Take this circumstance right now. It is quite possible that Zelblade is scum and I am town. I know I am town so for me it comes down to my belief about zelblade. If I think he is town I will defend him. But for you, you see it that we are somehow connected simply because I am defending him. That makes no sense. This focus on pairs makes you believe that we are intrinsically linked when in fact we are not.
Hence why I disregarded it as an idea.
First is his redirection off Zelblade. We as a town were set against Zelblade. He slowly comes in, saying that in posts earlier that he does not think zelblade is mafia. Then he takes attention off zelblade and puts it onto SacredSystem.
I stand by this. I think Zelblade is town and SS is mafia. It is WIFOM in its simplest form. I don't know if SS and Zelblade are town, and you don't know that I am town. There could be a mafia amonst us, or not. So to you because Zelblade looks scummy I must be mafia targeting a town. But what if zelblade is town. Then maybe I am a townie targeting who I think is mafia.
Now, this hinges on what you believe zelblade alignment is. But bare in mind, even if Zeblade flips mafia that does not mean I am mafia and SS is town. Sure it is more evidence but that is all. This thinking that simply because I defended someone who turns out to be scum makes me scum is wrong. Everyone can make mistakes.
This is effective since SacredSystem seems so mafia. However, notice SacredSystem's continous push to lynch Zelblade. I think this is not work of mafia, nor ingnorant townie. I think it is work of Detective, trying desperately hard to convince the town without straight up roleclaiming as that would not work. Why would he keep persisting, trying to bring up the same points over and over? This is beyond tunneling or bussing.
So that is why you think Zelblade is scum. Because SS refuses to budge from Zelblade. You could use the same logic for my defense of zelblade. I am not claiming I am simply pointing out that unless SS straight up claims DT with a mafia check you are still making assumptions based on WIFOM.
Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 08:08 Bromancipate wrote:
Jitsu and I are still convinced that SacredSystem is the mafia hiding in plain sight. Given both Adam and sl0osh are town in our minds that leaves one in Zelblade, Cosmos and Chocolate. All three are scummy as hell but zelblade looks the most "towny" to me. That leaves a choice between Cosmos and Chocolate. Chocolate is getting the heat at the moment which I expect to continue. I don't want us tunneling another townie letting scum hide. So Cosmos will be my target analysis. We can then compare cases.
Right now it seems to me if we lynch either zelblade, cosmos or chocolate tomorrow we are taking a risk that does not need to be taken. SacredSystem is the most obvious mafia to me and has been all game. - Notice that DoYouHas is missing. Again. - Zelblade the one he says again and again is townie newb is labeled "scummy as hell". - More importantly, I posted three times that we need to consider pairs.
Yet he is still going after one at a time, and tries to get town to do it as well.
I don't know why DYH keeps disappearing from my lists. I just don't notice his posting. If that is what you think makes me mafia then you are going to have to try harder. You still haven't explained how this is driving a mafia agenda. I have not pushed for his lynch or even labelled him scummy. I simply missed him.
Zelblade is scummy as hell, he just looks less scummy than the rest of them. I can like your arguments and agree that he looks like a mafia without believing his is mafia. Look at it differently, I can say who I think is town and then label the rest scummy. Well I don't want to be labellign scum as town so I keep that list short and label the ones that look sort of townie, as scummy. Again, this doesn't explain where the motivation is. You haven't explained how my actions are actively leading to a town loss. The only thing you have said is that I took attention away from Zelblade and pushed it onto SS. Well I stand by that, I think SS is much more likely to flip red than Zelblade. If I believe this, why wouldn't I defend Zelblade?
I want us to take a step back and think big picture.
Bromancipate lurks (or is genuinly busy) day 1. He jumps on Zarepath lynch (7th vote when he realizes he going to get lynched).
I know you guys hate the hydra thing but I really wasn't here for that. Maybe Jitsu can explain it. Even so there were others who jumped on that wagon as well.
He defends Zelblade (guy we all thought was mafia and were going to lynch) whilst attacking SacredSystem, which works well since SacredSystem is so suspicious.
See above.
Out of nowhere has this guy come and implanted into our thinking that he is townie without any actual contribution (just an increase in activity).
Actually I would argue that trying to move a lynch off someone who I think is town to someone who is mafia is contributing, but hey don't let that cloud your judgement.
He tries to keep our attention on the pool of suspicious players when I clearly state multiple times that that kind of method won't work.
What is most frustrating is is how he is a hydra, with two heads that can think opposing thoughts, capable of acting on either head's thoughts without being held accountable to the other. Notice how many times they conflict and conveniently resolve, aligning with the most "pro-town" option possible.
Well I don't agree with your logic on that so why should I follow it. Just because people (including myself) have labelled you town does not mean that I have to follow your instructions. Finally, how does pushing a pro-town option make me scum? Should I be pushing a mafia agenda instead?
Wait, maybe I should push my own ideas. 
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On February 03 2012 10:57 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 09:53 Bromancipate wrote:
Well thanks for coming out saying it. I am writing up my defense now but just quickly why does a supposed SS DT finding zelblade as scum make me scum just because I defended him. My initial response to this was conformation bias all the way. You are convinced that zelblade is scum and so my defense of him must be a scum protecting his buddy. Well it is not. I don't want us to lynch a townie, so if I believe someone is town I will defend them. Just because you come to a different conclusion does not mean that I am scum. My belief that zelblade is mafia is only a support, NOT a foundation to my case against you. I want to make that clear right now. I assume you read my post and still believe that zelblade is town (despite calling him "scummy as hell"). As I have said before, a case can be made against any of the four, but it stands to reason that at least two of them MUST be town. And so if you still so strongly believe that zelblade is town, I wish for your thoughts on my post and how either Chocolate or CosmosXAM is much more likely to be mafia.
I will take another look at Zelblade. I do find it weird that he hasn't responded to my defense of him. In fact he hasn't responded to me at all. As for the others, I am much more suspicious of Chocolate than Cosmos but I want to rule out us ignoring someone who hasn't contributed a ton, hence why he is still on my reading list.
Sorry guys I forgot to do the sign thing.
/Probulous
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On February 03 2012 11:07 slOosh wrote:
We are at 6 town 2 mafia. In the worst case scenario:
night ends: 5 town 2 mafia
mislynch : 4 town 2 mafia
night: 3 town 2 mafia
With only 1 mislynch we approach lylo, and as I have said, there are 4 candidates whom people would lynch as individuals but we can't do this. At least 2 MUST be town.
Please don't forget this point I think this is so crucial.
Also I find the twice now lack of acknowledgement of DoYouHas as town very disconcerting.
I agree that we have to be careful. I don't agree that the fact we have two town in there is of upmost importance. I could justify all their actions from a town point of view. That is why it is better to focus on the motivations for people's posts. There will always be circumstances where town targets town, if you use that as evidence for one being scum then mafia can sit back and laugh. Why link them at all? Much better to ascertain the reason they went after the townie. That will tell you more.
Finally, I addressed your concern about DYH being missing from my town list. If this is a problem for you I will calm your mind.
DoYouHas is town.
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On February 03 2012 11:15 Bromancipate wrote:
Well I don't agree with your logic here. People play this game as individuals, sure mafia is a team but they still have to post on single accounts. We can only lynch one person at a time so making a decision about a pair is useless. To me mafia are the ones driving an agenda that is not beneficial to town. If someone is suspicious it is normally because they are driving an agenda that does this. That is why I hunt scum. I don't really care who is town because I don't have to choose to lynch a townie. I need to be sure that person is scum. This is precisely the thought process I don't want town to get. I have made it very clear. 4 suspects. 2 MUST BE TOWN. You have to accept that at least two of them are town, DESPITE their scumminess as you call it. It is very logical to consider as mafia as pairs as to help make better reads.
Besides focusing on pairs allows you to be swayed by WIFOM. Take this circumstance right now. It is quite possible that Zelblade is scum and I am town. I know I am town so for me it comes down to my belief about zelblade. If I think he is town I will defend him. But for you, you see it that we are somehow connected simply because I am defending him. That makes no sense. This focus on pairs makes you believe that we are intrinsically linked when in fact we are not.
Hence why I disregarded it as an idea. It does make sense to see an interaction between two players and note the relationship between them. I have stated before that my read on Bromancipate is not solely founded upon my read on Zelblade. That is not what I said.
So to you because Zelblade looks scummy I must be mafia targeting a town. Again, no. Bromancipate is painting an incorrect picture of my argument.
So that is why you think Zelblade is scum. Because SS refuses to budge from Zelblade. You could use the same logic for my defense of zelblade. I am not claiming I am simply pointing out that unless SS straight up claims DT with a mafia check you are still making assumptions based on WIFOM.
No, this is why I believe zelblade is mafia. I am not basing it off WIFOM, I have a very clear analytical basis of believing Zelblade is mafia.
I don't know why DYH keeps disappearing from my lists. I just don't notice his posting. If that is what you think makes me mafia then you are going to have to try harder. You still haven't explained how this is driving a mafia agenda. I have not pushed for his lynch or even labelled him scummy. I simply missed him.
This is anti-town as it plants seeds of doubt concerning one of the most town people here. I believe Simberto was a genuine mislynch. No one has counterclaimed DYH's hit. He pushed for Zarepath lynch, even when I backed off. Distrust is anti-town. Guys, please notice how again this is subtle influence over town.
Zelblade is scummy as hell, he just looks less scummy than the rest of them. I can like your arguments and agree that he looks like a mafia without believing his is mafia. Look at it differently, I can say who I think is town and then label the rest scummy. Well I don't want to be labellign scum as town so I keep that list short and label the ones that look sort of townie, as scummy. Again, this doesn't explain where the motivation is. You haven't explained how my actions are actively leading to a town loss. The only thing you have said is that I took attention away from Zelblade and pushed it onto SS. Well I stand by that, I think SS is much more likely to flip red than Zelblade. If I believe this, why wouldn't I defend Zelblade?
Again, Bromancipate sidesteps my reasoning. Focusing on the 4 suspects leads to town loss as we only have room to lynch two of them and two of them are TOWN. And I never said actively. I said clearly that he is subtly trying to distract & misdirect us. The last line is illogical. If you think someone is much more likely to flip red, you don't defend the other suspect, but you push forward the first suspect.
Actually I would argue that trying to move a lynch off someone who I think is town to someone who is mafia is contributing, but hey don't let that cloud your judgement.
Well I don't agree with your logic on that so why should I follow it. Just because people (including myself) have labelled you town does not mean that I have to follow your instructions.
It's ok to disagree with my logic, but it is not town to simply ignore and brush it aside. It is more helpful to town to reason with me why you think something illogical, that both I and other townspeople would not fall into a logical mistake. He paints me in a bad light again by skewing reality. I never commanded anyone and have welcomed correction multiple times.
Lastly he does not treat my argument seriously. He makes light of it. Throughout his response he sidesteps, he sets up scarecrows, he paints me in bad light. Notice how he ends his defense.
Finally, how does pushing a pro-town option make me scum? Should I be pushing a mafia agenda instead?
Wait, maybe I should push my own ideas. I argued that it is not pro-town. The last two lines are condescending. Definitely not how town treat other town.
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On February 03 2012 11:26 Bromancipate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 11:07 slOosh wrote:
We are at 6 town 2 mafia. In the worst case scenario:
night ends: 5 town 2 mafia
mislynch : 4 town 2 mafia
night: 3 town 2 mafia
With only 1 mislynch we approach lylo, and as I have said, there are 4 candidates whom people would lynch as individuals but we can't do this. At least 2 MUST be town.
Please don't forget this point I think this is so crucial.
Also I find the twice now lack of acknowledgement of DoYouHas as town very disconcerting. I agree that we have to be careful. I don't agree that the fact we have two town in there is of upmost importance. I could justify all their actions from a town point of view. That is why it is better to focus on the motivations for people's posts. There will always be circumstances where town targets town, if you use that as evidence for one being scum then mafia can sit back and laugh. Why link them at all? Much better to ascertain the reason they went after the townie. That will tell you more. Finally, I addressed your concern about DYH being missing from my town list. If this is a problem for you I will calm your mind. DoYouHas is town.
I never did that. You will notice my case on Zelblade has nothing to do on his attack on FakePromise, nor his defense of Zarepath, nor any interaction with Simberto.
I also never said we should link them all.
I do not appreciate you twisting up what I said.
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![[image loading]](http://reginasuniverse.com/blog6/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/tumbleweeds-of-my-mind.jpg) Start of Day 4
The night was quiet again. Deafeningly quiet.
It is now Day 4. Following the request of a player who wanted to follow the extended schedule for one more day, you have 48 hours to decide whom to lynch. The deadline is 03:00 GMT (+00:00) on Saturday, February 4.
Edit: Woo, I'm a zealot! And it only took me three years to get it. -_-
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I knew it. Adam was shot.
##Vote Zelblade.
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If he was this makes me feel like he was on the right track with chocolate, not clearing zelblade but 1:how do you know he was shot, 2:why the instant jump to zelblade (i still feel zelblade is mafia, not trying to say he isnt)
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On February 03 2012 11:51 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 11:15 Bromancipate wrote:
Well I don't agree with your logic here. People play this game as individuals, sure mafia is a team but they still have to post on single accounts. We can only lynch one person at a time so making a decision about a pair is useless. To me mafia are the ones driving an agenda that is not beneficial to town. If someone is suspicious it is normally because they are driving an agenda that does this. That is why I hunt scum. I don't really care who is town because I don't have to choose to lynch a townie. I need to be sure that person is scum. This is precisely the thought process I don't want town to get. I have made it very clear. 4 suspects. 2 MUST BE TOWN. You have to accept that at least two of them are town, DESPITE their scumminess as you call it. It is very logical to consider as mafia as pairs as to help make better reads.
Of course but how does that help us find scum? If you don't focus on what people say and why they say it who cares what connections there may be? I am trying hard not to get frustrated because I just can't see what is so important about there being two town in that group of four? Hell there could be three, or even four town (very unlikely). I understand that at a minimum two must be town but what does finding that tell us? We still have to vote for someone.
In any case, our methods clearly differ. Well that is not a mafia agenda or motivation thing. We simply approach things differently. I don't see how you can use this against me.
Show nested quote +Besides focusing on pairs allows you to be swayed by WIFOM. Take this circumstance right now. It is quite possible that Zelblade is scum and I am town. I know I am town so for me it comes down to my belief about zelblade. If I think he is town I will defend him. But for you, you see it that we are somehow connected simply because I am defending him. That makes no sense. This focus on pairs makes you believe that we are intrinsically linked when in fact we are not.
Hence why I disregarded it as an idea. It does make sense to see an interaction between two players and note the relationship between them.
Sure that is fair but can you please outline what you find so incriminating about me? From my reading of your case, it comes down to my opposition to your focus on TWO TOWN thing and my support for Zelblade. Aside from that there is a weak thing about me not mentioning DYH despite this not having any affect on the game and then there is my late vote for Zarepath. Well others voted late too, that is probably the only hard evidence you have presented.
I have stated before that my read on Bromancipate is not solely founded upon my read on Zelblade. That is not what I said. Again, no. Bromancipate is painting an incorrect picture of my argument.
So what is it then? I am trying to understand your logic but you aren't making sense. What, despite my support for Zelblade, makes me mafia?
Show nested quote +
So that is why you think Zelblade is scum. Because SS refuses to budge from Zelblade. You could use the same logic for my defense of zelblade. I am not claiming I am simply pointing out that unless SS straight up claims DT with a mafia check you are still making assumptions based on WIFOM.
No, this is why I believe zelblade is mafia. I am not basing it off WIFOM, I have a very clear analytical basis of believing Zelblade is mafia.
Sure but you went back and forth on him. I can't believe that my defense of someone who I believe was heading for a mislynch is killing me. What I wrote there was misleading and posted in frustration. I know you had a case on Zelblade, I didn't mean it to appear otherwise.
Show nested quote +I don't know why DYH keeps disappearing from my lists. I just don't notice his posting. If that is what you think makes me mafia then you are going to have to try harder. You still haven't explained how this is driving a mafia agenda. I have not pushed for his lynch or even labelled him scummy. I simply missed him. This is anti-town as it plants seeds of doubt concerning one of the most town people here. I believe Simberto was a genuine mislynch. No one has counterclaimed DYH's hit. He pushed for Zarepath lynch, even when I backed off. Distrust is anti-town. Guys, please notice how again this is subtle influence over town.
No it does not. I doubt anyone here thinks DYH is scum. No-one has presented a case against him. No-one has said anything to make him look bad. I even posted after you called it out the first time that I think he is town. I would wager that everyone would have missed that completely if you had not mentioned it and it would not have made them vote for DYH. The only person who mentioned DYH in a suspicious manner at all was SacredSystem which I pointed out in my list. I don't see how you can draw a conclusion that I am misleading town by not leading them.
Show nested quote +Zelblade is scummy as hell, he just looks less scummy than the rest of them. I can like your arguments and agree that he looks like a mafia without believing his is mafia. Look at it differently, I can say who I think is town and then label the rest scummy. Well I don't want to be labellign scum as town so I keep that list short and label the ones that look sort of townie, as scummy. Again, this doesn't explain where the motivation is. You haven't explained how my actions are actively leading to a town loss. The only thing you have said is that I took attention away from Zelblade and pushed it onto SS. Well I stand by that, I think SS is much more likely to flip red than Zelblade. If I believe this, why wouldn't I defend Zelblade? Again, Bromancipate sidesteps my reasoning. Focusing on the 4 suspects leads to town loss as we only have room to lynch two of them and two of them are TOWN. And I never said actively. I said clearly that he is subtly trying to distract & misdirect us. The last line is illogical. If you think someone is much more likely to flip red, you don't defend the other suspect, but you push forward the first suspect.
You do both, which is what I said. There was no way SS was getting lynched unless I tried to show that Zelblade is town. I did post my case on SS, how can you argue that I didn't push for an SS lynch? As for your logic on the two town thing I don't see how that helps us make up our mind about who to lynch. Should we focus on two instead? How about one? How about SacredSystem?
If I have a scum in my sights I will push until that man swings. Maybe you don't like my methods, but they are what they are.
Show nested quote +Actually I would argue that trying to move a lynch off someone who I think is town to someone who is mafia is contributing, but hey don't let that cloud your judgement.
Well I don't agree with your logic on that so why should I follow it. Just because people (including myself) have labelled you town does not mean that I have to follow your instructions. It's ok to disagree with my logic, but it is not town to simply ignore and brush it aside. It is more helpful to town to reason with me why you think something illogical, that both I and other townspeople would not fall into a logical mistake. He paints me in a bad light again by skewing reality. I never commanded anyone and have welcomed correction multiple times.
Just because I don't agree with your methods doesn't mean I am going to spend my time explaining to town why they are bad. Maybe they work for you. I don't really care as long as your reads reflect my thoughts and you are not mafia. For you however it seems that if people disagree with your methods they must be mafia? I don't understand this at all and it is heller frustrating.
You are using my opposition to your methods as proof that I am scum? I didn't want to swallow this thread is pointless arguing about stuff that doesn't find mafia. Only when you label me scum because of that am I going to point that out. I don't think you are mafia, I am almost sure you are town. So why cast unnecessary suspicion on you?
Lastly he does not treat my argument seriously. He makes light of it. Throughout his response he sidesteps, he sets up scarecrows, he paints me in bad light. Notice how he ends his defense. Show nested quote +Finally, how does pushing a pro-town option make me scum? Should I be pushing a mafia agenda instead?
Wait, maybe I should push my own ideas. I argued that it is not pro-town. The last two lines are condescending. Definitely not how town treat other town.
Well I'm frustrated in being drawn into an argument that does not benefit us at all. I am town and I believe you are town. Responding to you distracts from ensuring the final two mafia will swing. My apologies if you took offence at my condescension.
/Probulous
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On February 03 2012 12:03 slOosh wrote:
I knew it. Adam was shot.
##Vote Zelblade.
Congratulations mate! Very nice save 
Hopefully Adam will be in here shortly to confirm. I will look into Zelblade again. I haven't had time because I have defending myself against you.
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On February 03 2012 12:13 CosmosXAM wrote:
If he was this makes me feel like he was on the right track with chocolate, not clearing zelblade but 1:how do you know he was shot, 2:why the instant jump to zelblade (i still feel zelblade is mafia, not trying to say he isnt)
He claimed medic, that is the only way he would know if Adam was shot. I think he is sold on Zelblade.
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Alrighty then, the time has finally come. I am the Detective. You know this to be true, but to make sure, I have been breadcrumbing.
The first night I investigated CosmosXAM, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +First character first line, second character second line, x=x. Forms the word checking in a diagonal line pointing to CosmosXAM in this post.
The second night I investigated SacredSystem, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +In this post I formed the word investigate out of 'inv'entory, 'esta'blish, 'gat'her, lik'e', all leading to SacredSystem.
The third night I investigated zelblade, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +In this post I did the same thing as with SacredSystem, except with the words 'in', 've'ry, 'sti'll, waitin'g', 'at, th'e', leading to zelblade.
So now, what to do with this information? I have not checked sl0osh, Adam, Bromancipate, or Chocolate. Given the nature of the day1 performances of all the people I have checked so far (lurking) I find it unlikely that a godfather is among them, especially with Bromancipate on the board. I have strong town reads on sl0osh and Adam, and apparently Adam has been saved tonight, (still waiting on confirmation). This leaves our remaining mafia as Bromancipate and Chocolate.
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On February 03 2012 12:40 Bromancipate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:13 CosmosXAM wrote:
If he was this makes me feel like he was on the right track with chocolate, not clearing zelblade but 1:how do you know he was shot, 2:why the instant jump to zelblade (i still feel zelblade is mafia, not trying to say he isnt) He claimed medic, that is the only way he would know if Adam was shot. I think he is sold on Zelblade.
Yea I assumed he was medic after that statement, I just don't see a reason to paint a target on his back like that for mafia, he wasn't in danger of being lynched and adam wasn't either. I guess adam being shot helps the point on chocolate, not so much on zelblade, adam barely seemed to talk of zelblade recently.
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On February 03 2012 12:47 DoYouHas wrote:Alrighty then, the time has finally come. I am the Detective. You know this to be true, but to make sure, I have been breadcrumbing. The first night I investigated CosmosXAM, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +First character first line, second character second line, x=x. Forms the word checking in a diagonal line pointing to CosmosXAM in this post.The second night I investigated SacredSystem, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +In this post I formed the word investigate out of 'inv'entory, 'esta'blish, 'gat'her, lik'e', all leading to SacredSystem. The third night I investigated zelblade, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler +In this post I did the same thing as with SacredSystem, except with the words 'in', 've'ry, 'sti'll, waitin'g', 'at, th'e', leading to zelblade. So now, what to do with this information? I have not checked sl0osh, Adam, Bromancipate, or Chocolate. Given the nature of the day1 performances of all the people I have checked so far (lurking) I find it unlikely that a godfather is among them, especially with Bromancipate on the board. I have strong town reads on sl0osh and Adam, and apparently Adam has been saved tonight, (still waiting on confirmation). This leaves our remaining mafia as Bromancipate and Chocolate.
Genius my friend! :D well that settles it for me
##Vote: Bromancipate (never really liked the hydra anyway)
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On February 03 2012 12:02 dreamflower wrote:
Edit: Woo, I'm a zealot! And it only took me three years to get it. -_-
LOL
congrats,
im 5 posts away
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I was shot last night, as I was expecting.
Grats on the zealot dreamflower =)
I had DoYouHas figured out as the cop very early on, but I knew he didnt check Simberto on night 2, since he posted his reads at 11:59, before a cop check would have come back. Hence why I took such offence to Chocolate pointing it out (albeit with flawed reasoning)
Well, we cant count out the possibility of a GF, one of your innocent checks may infact be him. They have no roleblocker, so 4 goons vs a Cop, Medic and 1-shot vig sounds a bit unfair, giving heavy weight to a GF being present.
Sloosh, did you protect n2? i thought for sure if we had a medic, he would have protted MG after claiming vig. Either way, boss saves bro.
Whos taking the first swing today?
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On February 03 2012 13:04 Adam4167 wrote:
I was shot last night, as I was expecting.
Grats on the zealot dreamflower =)
I had DoYouHas figured out as the cop very early on, but I knew he didnt check Simberto on night 2, since he posted his reads at 11:59, before a cop check would have come back. Hence why I took such offence to Chocolate pointing it out (albeit with flawed reasoning)
Well, we cant count out the possibility of a GF, one of your innocent checks may infact be him. They have no roleblocker, so 4 goons vs a Cop, Medic and 1-shot vig sounds a bit unfair, giving heavy weight to a GF being present.
Sloosh, did you protect n2? i thought for sure if we had a medic, he would have protted MG after claiming vig. Either way, boss saves bro.
Whos taking the first swing today?
if there was a GF I dont see how he could get two mafia goons, unless one is a miller which I doubt we have but no one can know that for 100%
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