EPTI do agree with MidnightGladius that Bromancipate is a good place to start.
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slOosh
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I do agree with MidnightGladius that Bromancipate is a good place to start. | ||
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The night is 2/3rds over but only 4 people have posted. This will not do. I propose we take a serious look at zelblade. He is the one I feel strongest about being mafia. Here is his filter I think DoYouHas nailed it. And I'll talk about his response to this post. On January 26 2012 08:01 DoYouHas wrote: I believe zelblade is our best lynch option. Just look at what he did when thrust into the spotlight. He has been apologizing and clarifying posts (which were already pretty clear) ever since spl0osh criticized his second post. Instead of using the spotlight to voice his own suspicions or convince us of his innocence, he has tried to move out of the spotlight as quickly and quietly as possible, while avoiding offending anyone. While his initial posts weren't particularly scummy, his responses have been nothing but suspicious. ## Vote: zelblade His response to this post? More apologizing The reason why I have been so apologetic is simply because it is my 1st game of mafia. I am not really sure how to approach this game, and am quite unsure of myself - that I may be making nooby mistakes. Apparently being overly apologetic is a nooby mistake, and i will try to correct that. Also @ fakepromise i am not really sure what you mean by this part.... I really dont understand the bolded part, what did u mean by that? He certainly isnt accusing you because you happened to be reading after i posted.... as that doesnt make sense. He paints himself as a newbie player and He emphasizes his confusion. Simberto does a good job explaining why town does not do this. On January 26 2012 23:35 Simberto wrote: Zelblade looks absurdly scummy at this point, really even so much that i might even favor him over lynching a lurker. He posted a lot in the beginning, his posts made him look scummy, and now he does nothing but post apologetic things and attacks onto the easy target FakePromise. Take a look at this gem: He apologizes for being apologetic. Really? AND he paints himself as a noob. Why should a towny do that? As town, i want people to trust me, and carefully consider what i say, not take me for a noob who has nothing important to say. However, "being a noob" is a wonderful excuse for inconsistencies that might result from mafia trying to act as town. The rest of his only post today was used to specifically attack FakePromise, who is already in pretty deep problems anyways. His final post? He doesn't try apologizing, nor explaining himself anymore. He ignores Simberto's post. On January 27 2012 00:19 zelblade wrote: Since I have to go to sleep soon (in about half and hour) and fakepromise still hasnt posted any sort of defence yet, I will be voting for him for now. Will wake up to check the thread in probably about 7-8 hours or so when i wake up, though i probably can only skim through the thread as i have to rush to school than, but definately can change my vote if need be. ##vote FakePromise Do not let him get away with this lurking. | ||
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How about this. Answer these two questions - Name one person who you think is town and why. - Name one person who you think is mafia and why. Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade - answer the question. All the rest of us have been pretty active and so instead of answering this ourselves we should pressure the lurkers. By withholding our own answers, we can put these guys in the spotlight. There are 7 hours left in the night. Post or warrant more suspicion on yourselves. Town have nothing to fear, and much to gain by posting. List of haven't posted yet: Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade. | ||
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That leaves at best 3 town/blue in that group. Staying quiet does not make you less of a target to mafia. If anything it draws attention as the only reason non mafia would lay low is if you are blue. Blues : Your powers are not the only contribution you can make. Please post. There is no reason to stay quiet. I want to re-iterate: Town has much to gain by posting. | ||
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Mafia know each other as soon as they received their pm. Sacred, what are your responses to my two questions? | ||
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On January 27 2012 10:42 CosmosXAM wrote: In a case where a larger group of 2-4 people strongly defend a person while simultaneously attack another seems to me like a deflection that could be very well employed by a mafia helping a friend: they bring attention off their ally and put pressure on someone who isnt. Now even if it isn't a larger group like that you would think that a person known by the mafia to be mafia would at least be defended a little. I am seeing a some strong similarities in posts and opinions and some alliances showing their faces, I would advise everyone to re-read some posts by both zarepath and DoYouHas. I noticed that their later posts have striking similarities and that they both seem to just pick targets together, first with zelblade and now with me, and they attacked us while in most cases defending someone else in both cases FakePromise and in DoYouHas's case zarepath. To me this seems very scummy and I stand 100% by my vote on zarepath as of this point. I am inclined to believe that Zarepath and DoYouHas are townies who are independently coming to the same conclusions using logic, analysis etc. For instance if both of them see an attack built on questionable logic by player A on player B, it makes sense that they defend B and suspect A as they see the logic is flawed. I also picked zelblade as a target with them. I also have shifted to believing that Zarepath is not mafia, or in the very least not anti-town. I display the same behavior for which you are suspicious of Zarepath. Yet you think I am town and Zarepath is mafia. Care to explain? | ||
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Please limit your choice to ONE person only. (I.e. one town and one mafia). Naming more makes it difficult to discern your stance and lets mafia get away with weakly pointing at people that other people are pointing at. List of haven't posted yet (in bold) Bromancipate, SacredSystem, | ||
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On January 28 2012 06:30 Chocolate wrote: Well I'm back from school so here goes nothing. I think simberto is the most town because he has posted many posts, usually with good content a la getting people to post, analyzing, etc. He is very active, although not so much tonight as he has been while I've been gone before. I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him. Zellblade has been suspicious to me for the whole game, as has zarepath. Please provide one quote of his in which he does this and show how you come to this conclusion. I want to see you do it, instead of doing it for you. Pick only one mafia suspect. | ||
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The longer you take to post, the more suspicions cast upon you. Town are always thinking of who could be town who could be mafia as they start with 0 information Mafia do not since they already have the information. Post. | ||
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(Just say, "Here" or something. Please chime in if you see really faulty logic or see posts that try to evade the question. However keep suspicions and suspects to yourself for now.) Day is approaching. We have 5 hours. Sacred I'm still waiting on you and you look less credible as time goes on. Delaying is something only mafia do as they want to get their plan straightened out. Town should already have stuff in mind. Post. | ||
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On January 28 2012 06:57 SacredSystem wrote: if zarepath was mafia he would have know that fakepromise was town and it would have been very easy for him to justify killing of FP, so then why not kill him? however i am most suspicious of zelblade, he has spent the vast majority of the time apologizing for his noobiness and hasnt giving a good justification as to why he isnt mafia also what does this even mean????? also in the rest of your post you accuse 3 ppl without actually being conclusive about anything, ie oh hes mafia because i am suspicious you entire post seems as though it has been set up to mislead people and you keep attacking me for being confusing, yet my posts havnt been confusing at all you havent contributed to any investigations you jumped on the fakepromise vote and you accuse me based off of nothing so now tell me why would you not be mafia? Please do not defend yourself and start arguments and clutter the thread. Please only post 1 mafia suspect. Please also post 1 person who you think is town. Straying from format is disruptive and unhelpful. You look suspicious for not following the plan. Please stay on course. We are collecting data. Arguments hinder collection. | ||
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As I keep reiterating, town has much to gain by sharing information. We have all day tomorrow - 48 hours - to lynch. That is enough time to form analysis and argue. We have 5 hours to collect information. The focus is collecting information. I want to do it before day comes as to provide our blues with the most information possible. I trust in their judgement, and so more information just helps them make better choices at protecting etc. | ||
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On January 28 2012 07:10 SacredSystem wrote: chocolate is mafia simberto is town You initially picked Zelblade and zarepath before that. Are you sticking with zelblade? Ignore Chocolate as your defensive backlash clutters the thread, and hinders our information process. Also give a reason why you think Simberto is town. | ||
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On January 28 2012 07:15 Chocolate wrote: I just posted again Also SS please explain your reasoning; I have explained mine and it is nowhere near conclusive, meaning that i'm not very certain your are mafia, just that you are the best candidate in my eyes right now to be one. Thank you for posting. However, SS please do not explain your reasoning against Chocolate at this time. We do not want a SS vs Chocolate argument derailing the information gathering plan. The highest priority right now is getting information into our blue's hands. | ||
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On January 28 2012 07:18 DoYouHas wrote: Sl0osh, please don't attack them for breaking your format. If getting lurkers truly involved is your goal, having a couple of them start arguing is exactly what we want. It is not like a few posts are going to distract you from the people remaining who haven't posted. You are cutting off a potential source of information. You are right, thank you. Can I ask how long / frequently you will be on till day? | ||
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On January 28 2012 07:28 DoYouHas wrote: I will be checking this thread regularly until the day post, but I will be gone for a while shortly after 10EST. I'll check the thread again at least once between when I get back and when I go to bed. Oh ok. I'll an appointment in about an hour and won't be back until around maybe 1or 2EST? I wanted someone active who I can trust to keep things on track, so could you do it when I am gone? | ||
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I have an appointment. Also, List of haven't posted yet (in bold) Bromancipate, Cosmos you won't be taken off until you respond to my post. | ||
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On January 28 2012 07:56 CosmosXAM wrote: I just see that deflecting arguments away from themselves by simply pointing out other suspicious people doesn't seem like very town like behavior. Also at that time they had both been voting in unison to my knowledge with DoYouHas being the one to change his vote. To be honest there is now so much going on in the game that when I try to look at a single person whom I think to be mafia that my information get convoluted, at this time I am just trying to take a step back, slow things down and try to glance at the wider picture and scope of things. Thanks for posting. I understand that there is a lot going on and it is good to take a step back and look (I know it helped me a lot after day 1 ended). So I won't ask you on people reads but on your logic (not because I'm suspicious of you but because I want more than 1 post from each lurker). I just see that deflecting arguments away from themselves by simply pointing out other suspicious people doesn't seem like very town like behavior. Could you explain your logic here? | ||
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On January 28 2012 08:06 DoYouHas wrote: In what way would you be painting a target on your back? With how scattered the focus of this thread is, you are not going to draw any more suspicion than anyone else by providing the mediums sized post that sl0osh is asking for. In fact, not answering makes you easier to push into being lynched tomorrow. The risk is extremely low that you will be killed tonight for answering. The risk of drawing too much town attention to yourself and wasting our time is high. Please just answer the question or do one better and give us something to work with. Adding onto that, there is new information influx once day 2 starts. If we let people wait until day 2 to post, then they can't be held accountable to their positions in the case of conflicting night results. Mafia escape the unnerving challenge of stating things that could be flat out contradicted by night actions. | ||
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Bromancipate, Cosmos, still waiting for your response. Adam, you paint a target on your back by the town by not responding. Please post and help town. Appointment is coming up soon, but I'll be back around 1/2EST to post what I've gleaned from this plan and help interpret the night actions. | ||
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