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Just checked the latest vote count update on voting thread:
On January 28 2012 06:32 GreYMisT wrote:
Vote Count!
Radfield (4): Meapak_Ziphh, Cwave, Jackal58, Bumatlarge
Navillus (1): RedFF
Bumatlarge (3): Radfield, Lanaia, Navillus
Cwave (1): GGQ
Lanaia (3): Hesmyrr, Zephridd, Vaderseven
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Blazinghand
Why, your eyes not working or something? You better start scumhunting or I'll grind you down to the ground.
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On January 29 2012 10:21 Lanaia wrote:
@everyone.
How do you all feel about blazinghand?
I find Blazinghand bit suspicious, thought he could have brought up suspicion on MZ a lot faster. Are you willing to support his lynch if it comes to it?
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Okay, liked your response. Retracting my statement.
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Voting for town =/= mafia. I recall you posting you were going to ISO players who voted for Radfield, RedFF. (#) Pretty funny your accusation against Jackal58 and bumatlarge only consist of argument "they are experienced and they killed Rad, die!!!!!", yeah? (#)
However I'm almost sure bumatlarge is scum now, after finding this gem while looking over his post.
On January 29 2012 10:12 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 10:00 Lanaia wrote:
You said it was radfield's fault he got lynched, did you not?
That part rubbed me the wrong way.
bum, who do YOU want to lynch most today?
Oh, I forgot about CWave. Could do for lynching him as well. It was, he fucking hinted at inception agent but it went so far against the gist of what he was hiding it in, it seemed like he threw trash together to make a good post. Look at meapak's first post. Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 16:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Lol wow radfield, I’m actually shocked you slipped so bad in your first post. Your massive post was a massive warning to mafia and so hypocritical and here’s why. On January 26 2012 12:22 Radfield wrote:/confirm On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues. First things first, please do not do this. Consider: Mafia do not know who their partners are. Therefore, high up on the priority list of the mafia is figuring out who the other members are. We need to not let this happen easily. The mafia have access to several pieces of information we do not, most specifically the number of mafia in the game. Players popping out and saying they think there are X amount of mafia are immediately getting a note in my scum book. Why? It's one way for a mafia player to indicate he is mafia to the rest of the crew, without raising suspicion. Makes sense? So no speculation on mafia numbers please, at least not right now. Second, mafia have very limited forms of communication this game, and from the looks of the Inception agent role, we can assume that town has some way to view their messages. This means mafia have to be extremely careful with what they write, so blatant things like lets kill X tomorrow are probably out. So mafia need a means to try to indicate to their brethren who should be getting hit. Imagine I am scum, I want to make sure that my buddies don't accidently send in hits on players I think are scummy, I want them to send in the hits on people I think seem like sure town. So what am I going to do? I'm going to repeatedly hammer it home in thread that I think Player Z is sure town. If there is general consensus among the group that player Z is town, he is a great target for mafia to lump in on. We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'. Benefits: Stops mafia from finding clear night-kill targets, and increases the chance of them shooting themselves. Cons: Possibly leaves us low on town leaders. Certain players may spend too much time going after obvious townies. Likewise, we should not be making medic lists. If you think a particular player should receive protection, that's probably cool, but no listing 3 or 4 people. In this game, that's just giving mafia a clear list of targets to shoot at, which is exactly what they need(a list). Medics in this scenario should be protecting whomever is most likely to die anyways, as there is no WIFOMing your medic protect around. Third, and this is straight out of resistance mafia, no talking about mafia strats. We simply do not talk about optimal mafia moves, or likely moves, as that is simply a way for mafia to galvanize their actions together. In a game with minimal mafia interaction, we need to ensure that they cannot use the thread to disseminate informationSo this game we talk about townie strats and townie moves, not mafia ones. On the flip side we do not call people likely town or town, we call them not scum or varying degrees of scum. Thoughts? Agreement or Disagreement? LOLOL couldn’t you have hidden it better? For those who don’t see it, paragraph in red is basically a massive warning to fellow scum. Of course a scum post wouldn’t be complete without an obvious contradiction and rad doesn’t disappoint with his little ending bit about not giving advice to mafia. Let’s start the day off right ##Vote: Radfield I think the section we both saw as scummy, was the section radfield put the most effort into making. Therefore he may not have noticed how bad it looked when he said the second red paragraph. Also hence why I was sure radfield was scum when he basically called MZ town after posting that. It's nice to see you being aggressive lanaia. I want to lynch cwave.
If you don't know, this is the post Lanaia apparently had bad vibe about:
On January 28 2012 15:41 bumatlarge wrote:Meh it's radfield's fault  Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.
Okay, when you hunt scum the basic is trying to find a post that town would never make but scum would. And this, ladies and gentleman, is one. What Lanaia brought up honestly did not mean anything; literally anyone who thought Radfield defended himself poorly could have wrote that post without thinking. Bumatlarge could have simply said "well, that's what I really think. If Radfield played better his lynch could definitely have been averted" and that would have been the end.
Instead, bumatlarge refers back to the first post Radfield had made and tries to give really unconvincing explanation about how Radfield - because he was blue - deliberately wrote the red part and managed to screw himself. What? Did anyone understood what he meant to say? It feels to me that bum was really reaching for the explanation that sounds good and logical unnecessarily, and I can see only one reason why he would do that: I think bumatlarge panicked when Lanaia made that irrelevant attack and over-reacted. And only people who have something to hide would behave like that, namely scum.
##Vote bumatlarge
Also I still think CWave is VI.
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On January 30 2012 07:22 redFF wrote:Yes he is a VI, what does this have to do with anything?
Now you're deliberately being obtuse.
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I'm still not sure if he is really argumentative townie or scum. I really should meta him but can't really be bothered to do so at the moment, maybe after I lynch bumatlarge.
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That's a lot of words, considering I still have no idea what you were saying on the post you pointed out. Also rather interesting standard for pointless question you have there: apparently asking someone opinion on other players is pointless while someone stating she feel something off about one of your posts requires a full dignified response xD
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On January 30 2012 23:29 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 23:24 Hesmyrr wrote:
That's a lot of words, considering I still have no idea what you were saying on the post you pointed out. Also rather interesting standard for pointless question you have there: apparently asking someone opinion on other players is pointless while someone stating she feel something off about one of your posts requires a full dignified response xD The other option is ignorning her one-line fillers. I don't think that's the best option. Do you think she has made any contribution? If so, can you point it out to me as i then might have missed it.
My post was directed at bumatlarge. I agree Lanaia does need to give out her reasoning better, so feel free to have at her.
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On January 31 2012 09:11 Scamp wrote:
I was so sure about scumatlarge.
Could he have been framed?
I think I'll just sleep this one off first before I do anything else.
Lynch town, leave completely stupid post thereafter.
DING DING DING DING
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There's enough scummy lurkers in this game that one of them has to be scum.
##Vote Scamp
Navillus and Refallen also better contribute today, if you guys slack off because of this vote you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
And the other two seem town, so... (since the replacement, at least)
Seriously, Lanaia?
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Ignoring whether I am lurker or not at the moment (hint: it's more than the post count), what does my activity level have to do with the act of pressuring lurkers?
been calling people out for scumhunting when he has done almost nil himself
Justify it.
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Jackal. If you are so certain Refallen is scum, why aren't you voting him, or in fact excluded him on your scum-list?
Also still waiting for your response Refallen.
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or in fact included him on your scum-list*
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Scamp and Refallen is joined to the hip.
Note how when I prodded Scamp, Refallen jumped to his rescue by throwing stupid accusations at me- accusations, which I might bother add, he conveniently forgot to press on even when I asked him to elaborate.
Note how Scamp posts that he feel weird lynching Refallen after cherry picking one single worst argument against him, and that he is beginning to think Jackal as scum because of this post (how?)
Note how Refallen quickly moves into say "I don't mind lynxhing jackal", and considering that at least one player in the Radfield wagon has to be scum this is tacit support of Scamp.
Scamp and Refallen is scum. I wouldn't mind lynching either of them at this point.
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You know what, I'll move my vote to Refallen right now. We cannot afford splitting the vote in this situation.
##Vote Refallen
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Twelve alive. You haven't counted Scamp.
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Yup. Lurking like a true champ.
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7-5 situation when there is less than nine hours left = splitting the vote between several candidates = begging for scum to quick vote third candidate into lead.
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On February 03 2012 02:41 redFF wrote:
So vote Jackal!
Shhh, you might actually want to read before making further fool of yourself.
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On February 03 2012 06:04 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 03:20 Hesmyrr wrote:On February 03 2012 02:41 redFF wrote:
So vote Jackal!
Shhh, you might actually want to read before making further fool of yourself. What does that mean.
On February 03 2012 00:28 Hesmyrr wrote:
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Note how Scamp posts that he feel weird lynching Refallen after cherry picking one single worst argument against him, and that he is beginning to think Jackal as scum because of this post (how?)
Note how Refallen quickly moves into say "I don't mind lynxhing jackal", and considering that at least one player in the Radfield wagon has to be scum this is tacit support of Scamp.
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On February 03 2012 07:34 Refallen wrote:
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I think these people are scum.
Jackal (no reasoning here either)
Hesmyrr
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Scum don't redirect to scum in order to save scum.
Also adding GGQ to my suspicion list. He stealth-votes just after enough people voted Refallen, has all the hallmarks of mafia going for damage control.
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